Top High School players who stayed too long in college?

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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 1:27pm #54355

Gabnosis
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Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you could give me players who were GREAT in High school with potential to be "One and Done" but stayed in College for too long and saw their draft stock fall.
Players who are actually battling for an NBA spot or even players who are in Europe now?
Thanks guys
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 1:53pm #879998

Lotto Stud
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Willie Warren!
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 8:07am #880172
  
  Scott42444
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  That was mine! He would have been a Top 10 pick if he would have left with Blake. I used to look at Mike Conley as a player who similarly rode the coattails of his "big", but he is actually darn good.
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 8:07am #880283
  
  Scott42444
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  That was mine! He would have been a Top 10 pick if he would have left with Blake. I used to look at Mike Conley as a player who similarly rode the coattails of his "big", but he is actually darn good.
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 1:53pm #880109

Lotto Stud
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Willie Warren!
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 2:36pm #880010

TarHeelRaven
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James Michael Mcadoo…
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 2:36pm #880121

TarHeelRaven
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James Michael Mcadoo…
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 2:56pm #880014

Grandmama
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Perry Jones and Devin Ebanks. Yeah, they only stayed for two years. If both had entered as freshman though, they would have been drafted much higher.
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 3:11pm #880131
  
  JM40
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  Chase Budinger
  Tony Mitchell
  Daniel Gibson
  Mitch McGary
  
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 3:11pm #880020
  
  JM40
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  Chase Budinger
  Tony Mitchell
  Daniel Gibson
  Mitch McGary
  
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 2:56pm #880125

Grandmama
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Perry Jones and Devin Ebanks. Yeah, they only stayed for two years. If both had entered as freshman though, they would have been drafted much higher.
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 3:55pm #880135

Skeating12345
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Marcus Smart
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 3:55pm #880024

Skeating12345
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Marcus Smart
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:15pm #880147
  
  Lotto Stud
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  If he falls out of the lottery then yes, but I doubt it.
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:15pm #880036
  
  Lotto Stud
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  If he falls out of the lottery then yes, but I doubt it.
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:00pm #880137

livinlegend4blk
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James white aka
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:00pm #880026

livinlegend4blk
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James white aka
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:20am #880132
  
  Jester87
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  He had lot of hype coming out of HS, but he wouldn’t ve been a first round pick probably had he jumped straight out of HS. No that anyone even considered a possibility. He showed flashes as a frosh at Florida, but mostly as an athlete, while his basketball skills and development were pretty disappointing. There were also a lot of question marks on his maturity. I don’t think he could’ve never been drafted much higher had he left earlier
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:20am #880243
  
  Jester87
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  He had lot of hype coming out of HS, but he wouldn’t ve been a first round pick probably had he jumped straight out of HS. No that anyone even considered a possibility. He showed flashes as a frosh at Florida, but mostly as an athlete, while his basketball skills and development were pretty disappointing. There were also a lot of question marks on his maturity. I don’t think he could’ve never been drafted much higher had he left earlier
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:31pm #880153

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CJ Leslie

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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:31pm #880042

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CJ Leslie

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- Posted on: Wed, 03/19/2014 - 4:07am #880406
  
  Sabdiego12345678
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  cj leslie never has any passion for basketball he just played because everyone thought that he was great he woulda much rather been riding dirtbikes or fishing if you watched him he never really played with any passion he wouldnt have ever made it as a prob because of that but if he did he could have been an all star with his natural gifts hes just about as great of an athlete as you can get… over a 40 inch vert at 6-9 is unreal
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- Posted on: Wed, 03/19/2014 - 4:07am #880516
  
  Sabdiego12345678
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  cj leslie never has any passion for basketball he just played because everyone thought that he was great he woulda much rather been riding dirtbikes or fishing if you watched him he never really played with any passion he wouldnt have ever made it as a prob because of that but if he did he could have been an all star with his natural gifts hes just about as great of an athlete as you can get… over a 40 inch vert at 6-9 is unreal
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:33pm #880155

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Alex Poythress
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:33pm #880044

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Alex Poythress
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 5:24pm #880179
  
  imAboutDatAction
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  ahh,not really.
  he was a fringe 1st rounder last year and their was a real possibility he’d slip to the 2nd.
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 5:24pm #880068
  
  imAboutDatAction
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  ahh,not really.
  he was a fringe 1st rounder last year and their was a real possibility he’d slip to the 2nd.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:50am #880194
    
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    The guy said coming out of High School…
    Poythress was the 7th rated prospect and now he is a 4 year player that will be nowhere close to the lottery.
    Poythress fits the poster’s question perfectfly…
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    - Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:04am #880200
      
      imAboutDatAction
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      the OP says " top HS prospects who stayed in School too long"
      Poy didnt stay in school too long. he was jus a top HS prospect. so it doesnt fits the question perfectly.
      
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    - Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:04am #880311
      
      imAboutDatAction
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      the OP says " top HS prospects who stayed in School too long"
      Poy didnt stay in school too long. he was jus a top HS prospect. so it doesnt fits the question perfectly.
      
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  - Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:50am #880305
    
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    The guy said coming out of High School…
    Poythress was the 7th rated prospect and now he is a 4 year player that will be nowhere close to the lottery.
    Poythress fits the poster’s question perfectfly…
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:43pm #880161

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He was JUCO player of the year and all SEC as a junior and was potential number pick…after his senior year he wasn’t even a first rounder.
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 4:43pm #880050

Shamar
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He was JUCO player of the year and all SEC as a junior and was potential number pick…after his senior year he wasn’t even a first rounder.
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 5:02pm #880173

bigtymer32
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david lee
josh mcroberts
glenn "big baby" davis
joakim noah (would of been the top pick if he came out his junior year)
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 5:02pm #880062

bigtymer32
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david lee
josh mcroberts
glenn "big baby" davis
joakim noah (would of been the top pick if he came out his junior year)
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 8:20am #880176
  
  Scott42444
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  See, the only reason I don’t agree with any of these is because these guys "slipped" in the draft (I agree with you on EVERY one of these guys, they all would have been drafted higher) they still were high enough to give them a chance. Guys like Willie Warren, they would have been a top 10 pick. Instead, he slipped to the mid to late 2nd round, which means that he had ZERO room for error. Usually, when a team uses (or wastes) a high pick they allow guys to work through their mistakes because the investment of a 1st rounder (plus the guaranteed millions) mean that teams are sometimes forced to at least give them a chance. 2nd rounders can be tossed away without really affecting the team in the long or short term. Now, that doesn’t always work. Guys like Kendall Marshall and DJ Augustin still were not given a full shot. They were THIS CLOSE to being out of the league. But, the got a little luck and have taken advantage of that 2nd chance.
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 8:20am #880287
  
  Scott42444
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  See, the only reason I don’t agree with any of these is because these guys "slipped" in the draft (I agree with you on EVERY one of these guys, they all would have been drafted higher) they still were high enough to give them a chance. Guys like Willie Warren, they would have been a top 10 pick. Instead, he slipped to the mid to late 2nd round, which means that he had ZERO room for error. Usually, when a team uses (or wastes) a high pick they allow guys to work through their mistakes because the investment of a 1st rounder (plus the guaranteed millions) mean that teams are sometimes forced to at least give them a chance. 2nd rounders can be tossed away without really affecting the team in the long or short term. Now, that doesn’t always work. Guys like Kendall Marshall and DJ Augustin still were not given a full shot. They were THIS CLOSE to being out of the league. But, the got a little luck and have taken advantage of that 2nd chance.
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 6:40pm #880191

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Terrence Williams
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2014 - 6:40pm #880080

livinlegend4blk
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Terrence Williams
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 1:30am #880213

Ihateusernames
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I was gonna say Chris Porter as well.
I will also say Michael Redd. Yes he went on to be an NBA all star, but he shouldve left school the year Ohio State made the final 4 and been a 1st rd pick. Instead he went back to tO$U, with the unreasonable expaectations of a better season, and the team disappointed and he went 55th to Milwaukee.

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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 1:30am #880102

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I was gonna say Chris Porter as well.
I will also say Michael Redd. Yes he went on to be an NBA all star, but he shouldve left school the year Ohio State made the final 4 and been a 1st rd pick. Instead he went back to tO$U, with the unreasonable expaectations of a better season, and the team disappointed and he went 55th to Milwaukee.

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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 2:59am #880223

strobox88
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GRIII
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strobox88
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GRIII
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 4:12am #880235

capecodder
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In the mid 90s, GW had a 7′ center from Belarus, I believe his name was Alex Kohl….a sure fire lottery pick his freshman year….each year after that he grew warts and went undrafted and never sniffed the NBA
Also, Alabama had a great point guard (Steele?)….who stayed an extra year and tore up his knee

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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 4:12am #880124

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In the mid 90s, GW had a 7′ center from Belarus, I believe his name was Alex Kohl….a sure fire lottery pick his freshman year….each year after that he grew warts and went undrafted and never sniffed the NBA
Also, Alabama had a great point guard (Steele?)….who stayed an extra year and tore up his knee

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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:33am #880136

porqueva
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Was supposed to be a Chauncey Billups clone. I think i saw him going top five in some mock drafts
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:33am #880247

porqueva
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Was supposed to be a Chauncey Billups clone. I think i saw him going top five in some mock drafts
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:35am #880138

Malcolmx
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CJ leslie
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:35am #880249

Malcolmx
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CJ leslie
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 6:19am #880152

SDE
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Mustafa Shaukur or Jason Williams from Duke
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:20am #880160
  
  Jester87
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  I agree on Shakur, but Williams went #2.
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- Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 7:20am #880271
  
  Jester87
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  I agree on Shakur, but Williams went #2.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 6:19am #880263

SDE
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Mustafa Shaukur or Jason Williams from Duke
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 9:02am #880184

mike_r232
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What about Jared Sullinger and Terrance Jones? Both were in consideration (on this site) to be top 3 picks at one time in 2011. Both stayed an extra year and went 18th and 21st. I like that both stayed to get more experience, but they certainly missed out on some extra cash in that first contract.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 9:02am #880295

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What about Jared Sullinger and Terrance Jones? Both were in consideration (on this site) to be top 3 picks at one time in 2011. Both stayed an extra year and went 18th and 21st. I like that both stayed to get more experience, but they certainly missed out on some extra cash in that first contract.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:25am #880202

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Felipe Lopez was the hottest prospect coming out of high school he stayed too long at St. John’s and it cost him being a top 10 pick instead Lopez was picked at #24 in the first round 1998 NBA draft.Willie Warren is another one that stayed too long.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:25am #880313

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Felipe Lopez was the hottest prospect coming out of high school he stayed too long at St. John’s and it cost him being a top 10 pick instead Lopez was picked at #24 in the first round 1998 NBA draft.Willie Warren is another one that stayed too long.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 1:55pm #880389

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Top 5 pick early in his college career. He ended up going 27th.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 1:55pm #880278

Meditated States
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Top 5 pick early in his college career. He ended up going 27th.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 2:25pm #880399

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Dominic James. Had a terrific freshman season and there was lottery talk about him. He never developed and his numbers across the board diminished each year. Meanwhile guys from his same class, Jerel McNeal and Wes Matthews improved each year. Him staying made for a hell of an entertaining basketball team their senior year with Jimmy Butler and Lazar Hayward.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 2:25pm #880288

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Dominic James. Had a terrific freshman season and there was lottery talk about him. He never developed and his numbers across the board diminished each year. Meanwhile guys from his same class, Jerel McNeal and Wes Matthews improved each year. Him staying made for a hell of an entertaining basketball team their senior year with Jimmy Butler and Lazar Hayward.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:25pm #880455

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Not sure how Myck Kabongo hasnt been brought up. The kid was projected top 5 had he come out after his freshman yr even with the off court issues and was praised for his abilities. Now he is not even in the league and his abilities are listed as down falls.
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2014 - 5:25pm #880344

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Not sure how Myck Kabongo hasnt been brought up. The kid was projected top 5 had he come out after his freshman yr even with the off court issues and was praised for his abilities. Now he is not even in the league and his abilities are listed as down falls.
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Posted on: Wed, 03/19/2014 - 1:47am #880386

Meditated States
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He should have cashed in. He messed up.
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Posted on: Wed, 03/19/2014 - 1:47am #880496

Meditated States
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He should have cashed in. He messed up.
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