Bucks take Jabari #1 in latest mock draft

 Every single time. The mock draft is just a big board… It does not take into effect teams needs. 

 Every single time. The mock draft is just a big board… It does not take into effect teams needs. 

They do eventually make their mock based off need but it happens after the season and closer to the draft. I am though as tired as you seeing people do this.

They do eventually make their mock based off need but it happens after the season and closer to the draft. I am though as tired as you seeing people do this.

 The amount of times they update the mock which isn’t too often, you think some effort to team needs. It’s not like its really that tough to figure out.

 The amount of times they update the mock which isn’t too often, you think some effort to team needs. It’s not like its really that tough to figure out.

 I am a duke fan and not because im a fan of his team but because he is honestly the best player in this draft and i disagree about the ceiling question. First Jabari has an incredible work ethic and is very very coachable. Less than 20 months ago he had a major injury he sat out for a long time on. Second due to Duke lacking big men Jabari Parker has had to carry 235-240lbs when his playing weight is 220-225….one of the main reasons he is considering returning to duke is so he can play his natural position at small forward. Third just because a guy is advanced at what he does and is in the right grade not playing up doesnt mean his ceiling is low. Jabari is a player who can create his own shot anywhere on the floor from 3 and the post….he doesnt force things when he is offhe rebounds and passes…his athleticism is deceptive the play were cook over threw the alley oop he grabbed it off the baclboard and dunked it in is very impressive. Wiggins doesnt have perimeter experiemce high school he played the post….he needs one more year to make a career differemce at kansas pro wise….embiid has no expeeiemce just learning the game and with the nba having no patiemce developing guys and him saying he isnt sure he is ready or not and barely any post moves shows me he mentally isnt ready and he needa to learn more and stay another year…..biid and wiggins may have a higher ceiling not by far but they wont be better….parker is a franchise changing player….just cause he is mature and has a developed game doesnt mean he cant get better and has a loe criling…his character and willingess to sacrafice for his team makes him even better. He is light years better than Luol Deng at 18 and he will prove that in the nba or at duke next year.

 I am a duke fan and not because im a fan of his team but because he is honestly the best player in this draft and i disagree about the ceiling question. First Jabari has an incredible work ethic and is very very coachable. Less than 20 months ago he had a major injury he sat out for a long time on. Second due to Duke lacking big men Jabari Parker has had to carry 235-240lbs when his playing weight is 220-225….one of the main reasons he is considering returning to duke is so he can play his natural position at small forward. Third just because a guy is advanced at what he does and is in the right grade not playing up doesnt mean his ceiling is low. Jabari is a player who can create his own shot anywhere on the floor from 3 and the post….he doesnt force things when he is offhe rebounds and passes…his athleticism is deceptive the play were cook over threw the alley oop he grabbed it off the baclboard and dunked it in is very impressive. Wiggins doesnt have perimeter experiemce high school he played the post….he needs one more year to make a career differemce at kansas pro wise….embiid has no expeeiemce just learning the game and with the nba having no patiemce developing guys and him saying he isnt sure he is ready or not and barely any post moves shows me he mentally isnt ready and he needa to learn more and stay another year…..biid and wiggins may have a higher ceiling not by far but they wont be better….parker is a franchise changing player….just cause he is mature and has a developed game doesnt mean he cant get better and has a loe criling…his character and willingess to sacrafice for his team makes him even better. He is light years better than Luol Deng at 18 and he will prove that in the nba or at duke next year.

 I do not see Parker’s ceiling being limited at all just because his game is developed. Hell I’ll take a Top 3 prospect any given draft if I already know what to expect out of him before I select him. It sounds foolish for you to say this because we get threads very so often of guys who went within the Top 5 picks to not pan out at all and they were not developed.

 I do not see Parker’s ceiling being limited at all just because his game is developed. Hell I’ll take a Top 3 prospect any given draft if I already know what to expect out of him before I select him. It sounds foolish for you to say this because we get threads very so often of guys who went within the Top 5 picks to not pan out at all and they were not developed.

 Well, If the Bucks get the first pick I do not see them taking Jabari because they have the Greek Freak at the 3 spot already. I’m high on Greek Freak like a lot of people. Jabari can play the two for stretches, but Wiggins can start at the 2 full time. Wiggins and the Freak on the wing together will be the best defensive duo in the league on the wing for years to come.

 Well, If the Bucks get the first pick I do not see them taking Jabari because they have the Greek Freak at the 3 spot already. I’m high on Greek Freak like a lot of people. Jabari can play the two for stretches, but Wiggins can start at the 2 full time. Wiggins and the Freak on the wing together will be the best defensive duo in the league on the wing for years to come.

 Wiggins and Embiid (given that he stays healthy) will be dominant on both sides of the ball at the next level and, in my opinion, are more complete players than Parker.

 Wiggins and Embiid (given that he stays healthy) will be dominant on both sides of the ball at the next level and, in my opinion, are more complete players than Parker.

 First off i think wiggins and embiids potential is through the roof good. But this is the first year Andrew wiggins played full time perimeter in his career…all the youtube highlights and big games are him in the post and he has admitted he is learning the perimeter…if he expects to drive and dunk everytime in the league it wont happen 6’8" and athletic is a dime a dozen…i think in the pros over a career he makes millions more if he stays one more year (he wont) at kansas. Hes not ready to create his shot against top tier defenders and i question his agression and passion only a couple times have i seen this "prodigy" dominate in an okay talent wise Big 12. Defense wise he is better than parker but ad we all know the nba is less defense more offense more talent and the great ones drive and passion are never questioned. Embiid is the same he has potential and can develope skill but has only been playing four uears or so now….he mentally isnt ready as he questions himself on being ready for the nba amd has proben his body is injury prone in a 35 game season agaimst smaller weaker athletes than the nba and if nobody has noticed the nba is not very patient with developing young big men amd the center position is startimg to disappear and be less needed to win a title. What wins titles? Versatility smarts drive passion and a level head….someone who plays team ball can create there own shot everywjere on the floor has athleticism or deceptive athleticism the ability to go off fpur 40 or get a triple double with 10 10 and 10. Ill compare nobody to lebron or MJ but jabari parker is a more diciplined better defending and better team playing carmelo anthony….and statistically shopying less shots and getting almost ten mims less as a freshman has better min for min stats tjan melo. On a better team with alot of scorers. If im a bad team i cant blame you for tsking the risk with embiid or wiggins but if it was me id take the lock….cause no matter what these teams at the top of the mpck need more tjan one guy and jabari is a locl for 17 8 and 3 as a rookie is a longer more open floor less defense being the man and 15 lbs lighter.

 First off i think wiggins and embiids potential is through the roof good. But this is the first year Andrew wiggins played full time perimeter in his career…all the youtube highlights and big games are him in the post and he has admitted he is learning the perimeter…if he expects to drive and dunk everytime in the league it wont happen 6’8" and athletic is a dime a dozen…i think in the pros over a career he makes millions more if he stays one more year (he wont) at kansas. Hes not ready to create his shot against top tier defenders and i question his agression and passion only a couple times have i seen this "prodigy" dominate in an okay talent wise Big 12. Defense wise he is better than parker but ad we all know the nba is less defense more offense more talent and the great ones drive and passion are never questioned. Embiid is the same he has potential and can develope skill but has only been playing four uears or so now….he mentally isnt ready as he questions himself on being ready for the nba amd has proben his body is injury prone in a 35 game season agaimst smaller weaker athletes than the nba and if nobody has noticed the nba is not very patient with developing young big men amd the center position is startimg to disappear and be less needed to win a title. What wins titles? Versatility smarts drive passion and a level head….someone who plays team ball can create there own shot everywjere on the floor has athleticism or deceptive athleticism the ability to go off fpur 40 or get a triple double with 10 10 and 10. Ill compare nobody to lebron or MJ but jabari parker is a more diciplined better defending and better team playing carmelo anthony….and statistically shopying less shots and getting almost ten mims less as a freshman has better min for min stats tjan melo. On a better team with alot of scorers. If im a bad team i cant blame you for tsking the risk with embiid or wiggins but if it was me id take the lock….cause no matter what these teams at the top of the mpck need more tjan one guy and jabari is a locl for 17 8 and 3 as a rookie is a longer more open floor less defense being the man and 15 lbs lighter.

 Duke gets a bad rep for pro players but the pedigree to win has changed the last few years and coach k said im going after calipari in revruiting so far he has and won. Tjats why he is great he dominates every era every style and now he is dominating the one and done era. From here on out coach is putting superstara in the league.

 Duke gets a bad rep for pro players but the pedigree to win has changed the last few years and coach k said im going after calipari in revruiting so far he has and won. Tjats why he is great he dominates every era every style and now he is dominating the one and done era. From here on out coach is putting superstara in the league.

 "From here.on out, coach is.putting.superstars in the league.  Coach k has yet to put one.superstar in the league.

 "From here.on out, coach is.putting.superstars in the league.  Coach k has yet to put one.superstar in the league.

 The reason most guys "celings" are high is because theyre not that good yet. 

Jabari is a 18 -22ppg guy right out of the gate. So there isnt much more room for his "ceiling" to go because he is already so damn good.

Most guys "ceiling" is what Jabari’s starting point will be

 The reason most guys "celings" are high is because theyre not that good yet. 

Jabari is a 18 -22ppg guy right out of the gate. So there isnt much more room for his "ceiling" to go because he is already so damn good.

Most guys "ceiling" is what Jabari’s starting point will be

Kyrie irving is a superstar for sure….jay williams would have been. And alit of duke guys have stayed in the league and played important roles for years…..theyre known to be team oriented and nontroublesome guys. Boozer Dunleavy Deng Redick was on fire this year Jabari will be good not to mention our in coming class. Thats what makes coach k special too he didnt need nba guyd like calipari and roy he had good college players now that times have changed he is dominating the one and done era also. God for we get Myles Turner. 

Kyrie irving is a superstar for sure….jay williams would have been. And alit of duke guys have stayed in the league and played important roles for years…..theyre known to be team oriented and nontroublesome guys. Boozer Dunleavy Deng Redick was on fire this year Jabari will be good not to mention our in coming class. Thats what makes coach k special too he didnt need nba guyd like calipari and roy he had good college players now that times have changed he is dominating the one and done era also. God for we get Myles Turner. 

Can we do a thread on team needs instead? Obviously, teams drafting position on this site currently is by the worst record. There is a thing in the NBA called the “Draft Lottery” which isn’t until the playoffs, so we have no clue who will win the #1 pick. When was the last time the team with the worst record had the #1 pick? Relax people, lol…

Can we do a thread on team needs instead? Obviously, teams drafting position on this site currently is by the worst record. There is a thing in the NBA called the “Draft Lottery” which isn’t until the playoffs, so we have no clue who will win the #1 pick. When was the last time the team with the worst record had the #1 pick? Relax people, lol…

The Duke/Kyrie thing would be brought up.  Kyrie Irving played 14 games for Duke.  Do you really think Duke or Coach K really had a whole lot to do with the development of Kyrie?

The Duke/Kyrie thing would be brought up.  Kyrie Irving played 14 games for Duke.  Do you really think Duke or Coach K really had a whole lot to do with the development of Kyrie?