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- Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 2:36pm #54067

valentineWhich draftee is going to get their GM fired? A lot of teams are heavily reliant on this draft to turn their franchise around.
Remember when it comes to draft ‘busts’, it’s not just about who you draft, but who you don’t draft (Milicic, Bowie).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 2:52pm #874607

SpartanGloryParticipantI think it’s possible either Wiggins or Embiid could be busts, simply because of the sky high expectations that have been placed on them. I think they’ll both be great players, but if those guys come up short and the rest of the top 8 become allstars, their GMs could be in trouble.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 2:52pm #874716

SpartanGloryParticipantI think it’s possible either Wiggins or Embiid could be busts, simply because of the sky high expectations that have been placed on them. I think they’ll both be great players, but if those guys come up short and the rest of the top 8 become allstars, their GMs could be in trouble.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 3:06pm #874615

HaleParticipantMarcus Smart. He’s a combo guard who lacks a jumper and playmaking skills. He’s not going to be able to bully NBA guards the way he does in college and has a tendency to take stupid shots. I think Embiid could be good but I think the Hakeem comparison’s are WAY off so in that sense he’d be a bust. He needs to be able to consistently play minutes without being in foul trouble first.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 3:06pm #874724

HaleParticipantMarcus Smart. He’s a combo guard who lacks a jumper and playmaking skills. He’s not going to be able to bully NBA guards the way he does in college and has a tendency to take stupid shots. I think Embiid could be good but I think the Hakeem comparison’s are WAY off so in that sense he’d be a bust. He needs to be able to consistently play minutes without being in foul trouble first.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 3:09pm #874617
theprophetParticipantnot sure anyone is a bust in the top 8-10 range. i thought of the players on the current mock draft on this site it would be noah vonleh, but he has been proving me wrong so far and has improved his shooting a lot since entering college and some with his post game to, combine that with his turnovers was my concern before indiana. he’s maturing in front of our very eyes.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 3:09pm #874726
theprophetParticipantnot sure anyone is a bust in the top 8-10 range. i thought of the players on the current mock draft on this site it would be noah vonleh, but he has been proving me wrong so far and has improved his shooting a lot since entering college and some with his post game to, combine that with his turnovers was my concern before indiana. he’s maturing in front of our very eyes.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 3:57pm #874633

kazamParticipantDante Exum.
I know, I know the comparisons, the love and the potential are off the charts for the kid right now. But count me as a critic simply because of the competition he has been playing against.
EuroBaller spent a lot of time last year on the forum shouting out the potential of the Greek Freak Giannis Antetokounmpo but all of us were concerned by his competition level in each video posted. Does the level of competition determine the quality of player? Absolutely not. But, it can help in predicting a players strengths and weaknesses. Look at a guy like Jared Sullinger, because he played at Ohio State and played against some great teams scouts and guys on the forum were able to notice that "boy he struggles against long athletic bigs". Is Exum a two guard, a straight one or a combo guard devoid of a true position?
Right now Exum is a unicorn prospect in the sense that we have no idea what his true weaknesses are from the most recent footage.
I am not arguing against the potential and the possibility that Dante will be an elite, all-star caliber player, but I think this unkown aura around him could lead to a bust situation.
Thats my bold prediction, but I sure hope the kid succeeds.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 3:57pm #874742

kazamParticipantDante Exum.
I know, I know the comparisons, the love and the potential are off the charts for the kid right now. But count me as a critic simply because of the competition he has been playing against.
EuroBaller spent a lot of time last year on the forum shouting out the potential of the Greek Freak Giannis Antetokounmpo but all of us were concerned by his competition level in each video posted. Does the level of competition determine the quality of player? Absolutely not. But, it can help in predicting a players strengths and weaknesses. Look at a guy like Jared Sullinger, because he played at Ohio State and played against some great teams scouts and guys on the forum were able to notice that "boy he struggles against long athletic bigs". Is Exum a two guard, a straight one or a combo guard devoid of a true position?
Right now Exum is a unicorn prospect in the sense that we have no idea what his true weaknesses are from the most recent footage.
I am not arguing against the potential and the possibility that Dante will be an elite, all-star caliber player, but I think this unkown aura around him could lead to a bust situation.
Thats my bold prediction, but I sure hope the kid succeeds.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 4:01pm #874637

TarHeelRavenParticipantDougie buckets. Don’t get me.wrong, I love his game and respect.that he’s stayed at a mid major school 4 years and become an all American and probable.nationAl play e r of the year this year. He’s just not athletic enough to match up with the world class athlete 3’s of the nba.
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 4:28am #874826

TyroberParticipantNo way he gets his GM fired unless someone goes crazy and picks him in the top 5 or something. But even then he is going to have a long career as a shooter in this league. His range is 10-14 and nobody is going to blame a GM for taking him there.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 4:28am #874717

TyroberParticipantNo way he gets his GM fired unless someone goes crazy and picks him in the top 5 or something. But even then he is going to have a long career as a shooter in this league. His range is 10-14 and nobody is going to blame a GM for taking him there.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 4:01pm #874746

TarHeelRavenParticipantDougie buckets. Don’t get me.wrong, I love his game and respect.that he’s stayed at a mid major school 4 years and become an all American and probable.nationAl play e r of the year this year. He’s just not athletic enough to match up with the world class athlete 3’s of the nba.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 4:05pm #874641
Rip255Interesting, Well i’m bucking the trend and going Jabari Parker. Interesting to see the variety of opinions.
Embiid – 2 nominations
Smart – 1 nomination
Exum – 1 nomination
Wiggins – 1 nomination
Parker – 1 nomination
Mcdermott – 1 nomination
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 8:35am #874795
tbest23ParticipantI’m not saying Parker will be a bust. However….I could easily see him going the Harrison Barnes route and not quite figuring out where he’ll fit in. It’s early with Barnes and I like his game but he clearly struggled his freshman year in college and the league, and isn’t quite what we all thought he would be. Parker seems like he could easily be shut down by the Luol Deng’s of the NBA but he might surprise as well. He’s labeled as a "safe" pick because lots of so called experts claim he’s the player now that he’ll be in years to come. Sure he’ll improve and get smarter etc. but I don’t like his defense and it remains to be seen how easily he can create his own shot against the big boys. Wiggins is a year younger than a lot of the freshman and Embiid has a whopping three years of experience under his belt. I’m thinking Embiid might actually return for another year based upon his comments so he might not be eligible for this year’s potential bust award. I go with Parker for now though…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 8:35am #874904
tbest23ParticipantI’m not saying Parker will be a bust. However….I could easily see him going the Harrison Barnes route and not quite figuring out where he’ll fit in. It’s early with Barnes and I like his game but he clearly struggled his freshman year in college and the league, and isn’t quite what we all thought he would be. Parker seems like he could easily be shut down by the Luol Deng’s of the NBA but he might surprise as well. He’s labeled as a "safe" pick because lots of so called experts claim he’s the player now that he’ll be in years to come. Sure he’ll improve and get smarter etc. but I don’t like his defense and it remains to be seen how easily he can create his own shot against the big boys. Wiggins is a year younger than a lot of the freshman and Embiid has a whopping three years of experience under his belt. I’m thinking Embiid might actually return for another year based upon his comments so he might not be eligible for this year’s potential bust award. I go with Parker for now though…
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 4:05pm #874750
Rip255Interesting, Well i’m bucking the trend and going Jabari Parker. Interesting to see the variety of opinions.
Embiid – 2 nominations
Smart – 1 nomination
Exum – 1 nomination
Wiggins – 1 nomination
Parker – 1 nomination
Mcdermott – 1 nomination
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 4:55pm #874762
runBruceParticipantI think Exum not due to lack of talent, but due to the lack of talented opposition. Always a chance inferior competition results in over evaluation.
Embiid is scary because so much of his draft stock value is based on upside, since he has a limited resume.
That said….I wouldn’t mind if the Sixers snagged either one of these guys.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 4:55pm #874653
runBruceParticipantI think Exum not due to lack of talent, but due to the lack of talented opposition. Always a chance inferior competition results in over evaluation.
Embiid is scary because so much of his draft stock value is based on upside, since he has a limited resume.
That said….I wouldn’t mind if the Sixers snagged either one of these guys.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 5:06pm #874766
canesboy6ParticipantJerami Grant to me has some serious bust potential. I just don’t see it with him. Guys similar to him have done quite poorly in recent history. Best example of a similar player to him that I can think of is Thaddeus Young, who is nice, but the 6ers wouldn’t still have him if teams wanted him that bad….
Of the elite kids, I’d say Smart is probably the most likely bust. I think he is a high floor kid, but I’m not so sure about the upside. Is he a poor mans Westbrook, or Rodney Stuckey? I think he’s an ok piece but I don’t know if hes a franchise changing talent.
Rodney Hood is another guy I could see not panning out as much. Does he have one clear cut NBA skill? I don’t think he has standout size or athleticism for the 3 in the NBA, and his game is ok, but not spectacular.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 5:06pm #874657
canesboy6ParticipantJerami Grant to me has some serious bust potential. I just don’t see it with him. Guys similar to him have done quite poorly in recent history. Best example of a similar player to him that I can think of is Thaddeus Young, who is nice, but the 6ers wouldn’t still have him if teams wanted him that bad….
Of the elite kids, I’d say Smart is probably the most likely bust. I think he is a high floor kid, but I’m not so sure about the upside. Is he a poor mans Westbrook, or Rodney Stuckey? I think he’s an ok piece but I don’t know if hes a franchise changing talent.
Rodney Hood is another guy I could see not panning out as much. Does he have one clear cut NBA skill? I don’t think he has standout size or athleticism for the 3 in the NBA, and his game is ok, but not spectacular.
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 2:27am #874816
runBruceParticipantGrant and Hood I def. agree with. But Teams balked at Thad Young’s contract. It’s a big number next year. Lots of teams wanted him but not at the number he is signed for…..at least thats’s the way I understood it.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 2:27am #874707
runBruceParticipantGrant and Hood I def. agree with. But Teams balked at Thad Young’s contract. It’s a big number next year. Lots of teams wanted him but not at the number he is signed for…..at least thats’s the way I understood it.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 5:25pm #874768
sixersman111ParticipantFor some reason I have a feeling jabari parker will be a bust. I feel like he can be a very nice complementary player but he can never be the man on a winning team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 5:25pm #874659
sixersman111ParticipantFor some reason I have a feeling jabari parker will be a bust. I feel like he can be a very nice complementary player but he can never be the man on a winning team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 5:46pm #874774

imAboutDatActionParticipantAaron Gordon and Jabari Parker.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 5:46pm #874665

imAboutDatActionParticipantAaron Gordon and Jabari Parker.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 6:01pm #874776

WalkaFlockaParticipantA lot of people here are listing Jabari Parker as a potential bust, but I’ve seen no evidence whatsoever to give me any second thought as to why he may be a bust.
In my opinion, Jabari is the most NBA ready player I’ve seen in the past 3 years. He could step on a court for a bottom dweller tomorrow and make an impact. His defense BLOWS but I don’t think that will ever lead him to be a bust, as his offensive game is one of the most solid I’ve seen from a wing his size in a while.
Rodney Hood has yet to stand out to me. He can score the ball, yes, but he’s not much of a rebounder or super defensive player. He also doesn’t always look like he has that sense of urgency with the ball in his hands. I will say, I came away from the Syracuse game more "impressed" with him than I had been before. He could be a solid role player off the bench who comes in and scores 10 a night but doesn’t do much more than that at the peak of his career.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 6:01pm #874668

WalkaFlockaParticipantA lot of people here are listing Jabari Parker as a potential bust, but I’ve seen no evidence whatsoever to give me any second thought as to why he may be a bust.
In my opinion, Jabari is the most NBA ready player I’ve seen in the past 3 years. He could step on a court for a bottom dweller tomorrow and make an impact. His defense BLOWS but I don’t think that will ever lead him to be a bust, as his offensive game is one of the most solid I’ve seen from a wing his size in a while.
Rodney Hood has yet to stand out to me. He can score the ball, yes, but he’s not much of a rebounder or super defensive player. He also doesn’t always look like he has that sense of urgency with the ball in his hands. I will say, I came away from the Syracuse game more "impressed" with him than I had been before. He could be a solid role player off the bench who comes in and scores 10 a night but doesn’t do much more than that at the peak of his career.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 7:14pm #874784
myers3425ParticipantI’m going to say Aaron Gordon will cause a GM to get fired because during draft workouts he will put up very impressive numbers that will make some GM fall in love with his potential and take him top 10. This being said if Gordon can ever figure out an 18ft jump shot he could make his GM look like a genius.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 7:14pm #874676
myers3425ParticipantI’m going to say Aaron Gordon will cause a GM to get fired because during draft workouts he will put up very impressive numbers that will make some GM fall in love with his potential and take him top 10. This being said if Gordon can ever figure out an 18ft jump shot he could make his GM look like a genius.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 7:34pm #874788
BiggysmallsParticipantI’ll be bold and say Parker as well. If I were a betting man I’d say he’s going to end up like a Rudy Gay type.
His offensive game is solid, and he’s a mismatch nightmare right now, but can he score on athletic NBA Small Forwards. He is too quick for college 5s and too strong for college 4s but the NBA has some badass SFs right now and I question his ability to create his shot against them.
He settles too often for stupid shots and he is bordering on Shabazz territory when it comes to creating for teammates.
Then there’s his defense…eeew
He does do some things well, he has sneaky explosiveness at the rim and can shoot the ball when he’s set, and his nose for the ball is very strong. Hes a much better rebounder than I thought he’d be and a lot of that is on the offensive end.
I’d still take him in the top 3 because I think he could become a poor mans Melo, but I do admit that I think there is some bust potential.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/25/2014 - 7:34pm #874679
BiggysmallsParticipantI’ll be bold and say Parker as well. If I were a betting man I’d say he’s going to end up like a Rudy Gay type.
His offensive game is solid, and he’s a mismatch nightmare right now, but can he score on athletic NBA Small Forwards. He is too quick for college 5s and too strong for college 4s but the NBA has some badass SFs right now and I question his ability to create his shot against them.
He settles too often for stupid shots and he is bordering on Shabazz territory when it comes to creating for teammates.
Then there’s his defense…eeew
He does do some things well, he has sneaky explosiveness at the rim and can shoot the ball when he’s set, and his nose for the ball is very strong. Hes a much better rebounder than I thought he’d be and a lot of that is on the offensive end.
I’d still take him in the top 3 because I think he could become a poor mans Melo, but I do admit that I think there is some bust potential.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 4:59am #874836
capecodderParticipantDo not see the infatuation with him……but what the heck I was threilled when the Celtics drafted Jajuan Johnson
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 4:59am #874727
capecodderParticipantDo not see the infatuation with him……but what the heck I was threilled when the Celtics drafted Jajuan Johnson
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 9:42am #874821
Memphisboy14ParticipantIf I had to pick a bust it would be Marcus Smart. ball-dominant tweener’s who can’t shoot, and aren’t very athletic don’t have a good track record in the NBA. He’s a pretty good passer but he doesn’t have good quickness to get to the lane consistently. If you can get to the rack in the NBA it makes it easier for you to make plays on the offensive end.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 9:42am #874930
Memphisboy14ParticipantIf I had to pick a bust it would be Marcus Smart. ball-dominant tweener’s who can’t shoot, and aren’t very athletic don’t have a good track record in the NBA. He’s a pretty good passer but he doesn’t have good quickness to get to the lane consistently. If you can get to the rack in the NBA it makes it easier for you to make plays on the offensive end.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 1:14pm #874883

Lafferty DanielParticipantCrazy that most of these "Busts" listed would’ve gone #1 overall in the 2013 draft.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 1:14pm #874992

Lafferty DanielParticipantCrazy that most of these "Busts" listed would’ve gone #1 overall in the 2013 draft.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 3:18pm #875034

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantI’m pretty high on most of the top prospects in this draft (with the exception of Aaron Gordon) but I do think Wiggins could disappoint a lot of people depending on what they expect out of him. I could see him maxing out as an Andre Iguodala kind of player in the NBA and if that happens I think some people will unfairly call him a bust because he didn’t become a Lebron, KD or T-Mac
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 3:18pm #874925

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantI’m pretty high on most of the top prospects in this draft (with the exception of Aaron Gordon) but I do think Wiggins could disappoint a lot of people depending on what they expect out of him. I could see him maxing out as an Andre Iguodala kind of player in the NBA and if that happens I think some people will unfairly call him a bust because he didn’t become a Lebron, KD or T-Mac
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 5:57pm #875065

TarHeelRavenParticipantI’ve been critical of Jabari a lot on here. I have said numerous times that he’s a talented scorer, but little else. His defense is pretty awful. He’s a good rebounder and is more athletic than I originally thought. Everybody says he’s a great person and a wonderful teammate. If he was such a good teammate, maybe he should like pass the ball sometimes. If I was Hood, Sulaimon Quinn Cook or whoever, I would go crazy watching his put his head down and and throw up wildly contested shots without ever looking to pass. His assist to turnover ratio is abysmal. I don’t even think he’s Duke’s best player. He has received all the hype, and it’s the medias fault hyping these guys up so much, putting him on the cover of Sports Illustrated and saying he’s the best prospect since Lebron. I don’t think Jabari is a team player. Rodney Hood is a better shooter, better defender and just a better overall player. He should be the all-american and possible national player of the year, not Jabari. I think Hood will be better in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 5:57pm #874957

TarHeelRavenParticipantI’ve been critical of Jabari a lot on here. I have said numerous times that he’s a talented scorer, but little else. His defense is pretty awful. He’s a good rebounder and is more athletic than I originally thought. Everybody says he’s a great person and a wonderful teammate. If he was such a good teammate, maybe he should like pass the ball sometimes. If I was Hood, Sulaimon Quinn Cook or whoever, I would go crazy watching his put his head down and and throw up wildly contested shots without ever looking to pass. His assist to turnover ratio is abysmal. I don’t even think he’s Duke’s best player. He has received all the hype, and it’s the medias fault hyping these guys up so much, putting him on the cover of Sports Illustrated and saying he’s the best prospect since Lebron. I don’t think Jabari is a team player. Rodney Hood is a better shooter, better defender and just a better overall player. He should be the all-american and possible national player of the year, not Jabari. I think Hood will be better in the NBA.
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 7:34pm #875084

King CaluchaParticipantAre you talking about Jabari or Melo? lol
Now seriously, I agree that Hood may be the best player in Duke, but since when being a good college player is inevitably translated into being a good NBA player? Jabari has potential, no doubt; which is why he’ll be selected in the top 3.
Of course you’re entitled to have an opinion. If you think Hood is going to be a better pro, maybe you can see something nobody else can (not even NBA scouts)…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/26/2014 - 7:34pm #874975

King CaluchaParticipantAre you talking about Jabari or Melo? lol
Now seriously, I agree that Hood may be the best player in Duke, but since when being a good college player is inevitably translated into being a good NBA player? Jabari has potential, no doubt; which is why he’ll be selected in the top 3.
Of course you’re entitled to have an opinion. If you think Hood is going to be a better pro, maybe you can see something nobody else can (not even NBA scouts)…
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