Minnesota’s Catch-22

They did their best to keep Love other than signing him to the Max deal (5 years). Why in gods name did Minny signed him for 4 years (with a Player option in the 4th!!)??? Management in Minny was so bad (I dont know If that changed at all, but let’s give them the benefit of the doubt) that they did everything wrong! In free agency, in Draft Picks, in trades, in contracts, etc.

Management got what they deserved… let’s hope with this new regime things start looking a little better for you. What went wrong in the last months was Portland matching Batum offer. With him at the 3 instead of Brewer I believe you would have a better chance!

They did their best to keep Love other than signing him to the Max deal (5 years). Why in gods name did Minny signed him for 4 years (with a Player option in the 4th!!)??? Management in Minny was so bad (I dont know If that changed at all, but let’s give them the benefit of the doubt) that they did everything wrong! In free agency, in Draft Picks, in trades, in contracts, etc.

Management got what they deserved… let’s hope with this new regime things start looking a little better for you. What went wrong in the last months was Portland matching Batum offer. With him at the 3 instead of Brewer I believe you would have a better chance!

Dude, you don’t just pick a new team like a new shirt. For people who are emotionally attached to their team or their city, it’s really hard to just give up and follow a new more successful club. Those people are called bandwagoners…

It is alright, however, to enjoy other teams outside your division. These are the unwritten rules, man. At least that’s how it is where I grew up.

Dude, you don’t just pick a new team like a new shirt. For people who are emotionally attached to their team or their city, it’s really hard to just give up and follow a new more successful club. Those people are called bandwagoners…

It is alright, however, to enjoy other teams outside your division. These are the unwritten rules, man. At least that’s how it is where I grew up.

By virtue of where we are born, or what TV market we are in, most of us “pick” a team early on and that is who we roll with. I bet most of the posters in here would agree. The guy who lives in Sacramento roots for Sacramento, not Houston or Atlanta.

Sometimes we “adopt” a second team if a favorite player from your favorite University ends up going there, or because of an iconic player. I followed the St. Louis Hawks because of “Sweet Lou” Hudson, and the Celtics because of McHale and Bird.

I don’t think Glen is out of line. I grew up in Minny and still follow them on League Pass even though I haven’t lived in Minny for decades. The Wolves have been a source of frustration year after year, first for being woefully inept, then for wasting KG, then for being inept again, and now for wasting Love.

I feel Glen’s pain.

By virtue of where we are born, or what TV market we are in, most of us “pick” a team early on and that is who we roll with. I bet most of the posters in here would agree. The guy who lives in Sacramento roots for Sacramento, not Houston or Atlanta.

Sometimes we “adopt” a second team if a favorite player from your favorite University ends up going there, or because of an iconic player. I followed the St. Louis Hawks because of “Sweet Lou” Hudson, and the Celtics because of McHale and Bird.

I don’t think Glen is out of line. I grew up in Minny and still follow them on League Pass even though I haven’t lived in Minny for decades. The Wolves have been a source of frustration year after year, first for being woefully inept, then for wasting KG, then for being inept again, and now for wasting Love.

I feel Glen’s pain.

I agree that they need a new coach. Adelman doesn’t seem to have his heart in the job, and is probably just helping his kid get his foot in the door. The rotations are puzzling. Adelman, for some unknown reason, loves Barea, yet refuses to play LRMaM (his best wing defender), Gorgui, or ‘Bazz.

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute is a plus defender, and they need a few more role players like him. Turiaf is also a plus defender, and Gorgui is going to be once he has more minutes under his belt (he fouls a lot now). Rubio is great at passing lanes and double teaming the bigs, but struggles to stay in front of most other PG’s trying to penetrate.

Brewer has the reputation of being a good defender, but it is mostly based on his steal numbers as he gambles a lot.

All teams have assets, but the Timberwolves don’t have very many. Love, Pek, Rubio, and probably Turiaf’s cap friendly deal. DC is an expiring, but at only 2.1M. LRMaM and Gorgui are fairly paid for what they offer.

The rest of the roster are liabilities once you factor in production vs. salary and length of contract. The 2014 first rounder (with protections) is owed to PHX.

I agree that they need a new coach. Adelman doesn’t seem to have his heart in the job, and is probably just helping his kid get his foot in the door. The rotations are puzzling. Adelman, for some unknown reason, loves Barea, yet refuses to play LRMaM (his best wing defender), Gorgui, or ‘Bazz.

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute is a plus defender, and they need a few more role players like him. Turiaf is also a plus defender, and Gorgui is going to be once he has more minutes under his belt (he fouls a lot now). Rubio is great at passing lanes and double teaming the bigs, but struggles to stay in front of most other PG’s trying to penetrate.

Brewer has the reputation of being a good defender, but it is mostly based on his steal numbers as he gambles a lot.

All teams have assets, but the Timberwolves don’t have very many. Love, Pek, Rubio, and probably Turiaf’s cap friendly deal. DC is an expiring, but at only 2.1M. LRMaM and Gorgui are fairly paid for what they offer.

The rest of the roster are liabilities once you factor in production vs. salary and length of contract. The 2014 first rounder (with protections) is owed to PHX.

The OP is right, the Wolves have painted themselves into a corner with a roster that is not quite good enough, overpaid, and with no significant expirings. Cunningham (2.18M), Price (0.95M), and Hummel (0.49M) come off the books this year, but they most likely will try to resign DC for a similar amount. With a team already capped out, there is no significant relief available there. Plus, you have to have a minimum number of bodies, and Hummel and Price already occupy the seats at the end of the bench, so if you don’t resign them you have to resign someone else at a similar salary.

Love can opt out at the conclusion of the 14-15 season, so your window to demonstrate to Love that you are putting a contender around him is the remainder of this season and next. The Wolves don’t have the salary cap flexibility to sign a FA of significance this offseason. The Wolves are likely going to miss the playoffs, but still be good enough to be in the late lottery where they would have to be incredibly lucky to move into the top 3 of the draft, or find that rare nugget in the late lottery that can make significant contributions in year one. So, the draft isn’t likely to be their immediate answer either.

That leaves trades. To get value you either need to trade something of value (like Pek), or find someone who wants to dump a bad contract for shorter, or less bad, contracts (Rudy Gay example). Look what you have to offer in a package (2014 pick owed to PHX, top 13 protected)… a bunch of overpaid players without much upside, most on longer term contracts, and no expirings of significance (only DC over 1M).

The roster around Love, Pek, and Rubio is pretty much blah. I am fine with Cunningham, Mbah a Moute, Turiaf, Gorgui (as a developmental center), as they all bring some energy and defense.

For what they offer, Brewer (4.9M, 2 seasons remaining), Budinger (5M, 2), KMart (avg. of 7M, 3 years), and Shved (3.1M, 1), are all overpaid. Barea (4.5M, 1) is an overdribbling, ball hogging, defensive liability that nobody should want. ‘Bazz hardly plays, but is a shot jacking black hole. Hummel and Price don’t matter.

So, in my opinion, there are two avenues to fix this mess prior to the deadline of Love opting out. Either trade Pek and hope you get even more value back than you give, or luck out in the lottery this season. Maybe Love likes Minnesota, or feels some sense of loyalty and resigns, but most likely he gets traded prior to expiration.

The OP is right, the Wolves have painted themselves into a corner with a roster that is not quite good enough, overpaid, and with no significant expirings. Cunningham (2.18M), Price (0.95M), and Hummel (0.49M) come off the books this year, but they most likely will try to resign DC for a similar amount. With a team already capped out, there is no significant relief available there. Plus, you have to have a minimum number of bodies, and Hummel and Price already occupy the seats at the end of the bench, so if you don’t resign them you have to resign someone else at a similar salary.

Love can opt out at the conclusion of the 14-15 season, so your window to demonstrate to Love that you are putting a contender around him is the remainder of this season and next. The Wolves don’t have the salary cap flexibility to sign a FA of significance this offseason. The Wolves are likely going to miss the playoffs, but still be good enough to be in the late lottery where they would have to be incredibly lucky to move into the top 3 of the draft, or find that rare nugget in the late lottery that can make significant contributions in year one. So, the draft isn’t likely to be their immediate answer either.

That leaves trades. To get value you either need to trade something of value (like Pek), or find someone who wants to dump a bad contract for shorter, or less bad, contracts (Rudy Gay example). Look what you have to offer in a package (2014 pick owed to PHX, top 13 protected)… a bunch of overpaid players without much upside, most on longer term contracts, and no expirings of significance (only DC over 1M).

The roster around Love, Pek, and Rubio is pretty much blah. I am fine with Cunningham, Mbah a Moute, Turiaf, Gorgui (as a developmental center), as they all bring some energy and defense.

For what they offer, Brewer (4.9M, 2 seasons remaining), Budinger (5M, 2), KMart (avg. of 7M, 3 years), and Shved (3.1M, 1), are all overpaid. Barea (4.5M, 1) is an overdribbling, ball hogging, defensive liability that nobody should want. ‘Bazz hardly plays, but is a shot jacking black hole. Hummel and Price don’t matter.

So, in my opinion, there are two avenues to fix this mess prior to the deadline of Love opting out. Either trade Pek and hope you get even more value back than you give, or luck out in the lottery this season. Maybe Love likes Minnesota, or feels some sense of loyalty and resigns, but most likely he gets traded prior to expiration.