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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:10am #53640
jaycee24ParticipantGreg’s a RFA this offseason and honestly can’t say what he’s worth re-signing for. In my mind if I was a team I wouldn’t offer more than 12 million a year and I think even that’s a stretch. I think this could be a situation like Brandon Jennings in which the player or media speculates a payday coming and no team dares to throw out a big offer. Does anyone think Monroe’s worth a large contract? Who might be the teams interested? Is there maybe a situation where he stays a Piston? Let me know what you guys think.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:21am #866817
TyroberParticipantBig guys get paid. Nobody wanted to pay Jennings because Jennings is a terrible point guard. Jennings is a very inefficient player that shoots a terrible percentage so comparing the two really isn’t fair. Monroe could obviously improve on defense, but that could be said for countless players. I promise you Monroe is going to get paid this summer.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:21am #866714
TyroberParticipantBig guys get paid. Nobody wanted to pay Jennings because Jennings is a terrible point guard. Jennings is a very inefficient player that shoots a terrible percentage so comparing the two really isn’t fair. Monroe could obviously improve on defense, but that could be said for countless players. I promise you Monroe is going to get paid this summer.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:43am #866823
jaycee24ParticipantI mean look at Monta Ellis too I know he’s also a guard but these guys at least put up numbers and in return didn’t get huge contracts. Would Dallas offer him a big contract or maybe Washington who’s shown interest or would Philly after taking Noel. It seems like the teams who may have the space wouldn’t have a fit for Monroe other than Washington and even then how much might they be willing to shell out for a guy like Monroe? I think wherever he may be at the end of the year…when matching offers from other teams I think 13 mil a year is the most you could give him before he becomes a detriment to your cap situation
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:43am #866720
jaycee24ParticipantI mean look at Monta Ellis too I know he’s also a guard but these guys at least put up numbers and in return didn’t get huge contracts. Would Dallas offer him a big contract or maybe Washington who’s shown interest or would Philly after taking Noel. It seems like the teams who may have the space wouldn’t have a fit for Monroe other than Washington and even then how much might they be willing to shell out for a guy like Monroe? I think wherever he may be at the end of the year…when matching offers from other teams I think 13 mil a year is the most you could give him before he becomes a detriment to your cap situation
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:44am #866827
jwall1ParticipantPersonally I think he will get paid close to max or max. He is a big with good size, a very good postgame, good rebounder, and he can pass the ball. He has improved on defense, and since he is still young he has more time to get better defensively. Alot of PF’s nowadays are not great defensively (think Love, Aldrige, Lee, and etc.) so I really do not think his defense will be a factor in how much money he gets paid. His stats have dipped a bit this year, but playing with Josh Smith who is chucking up shots probably explains that.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:44am #866724
jwall1ParticipantPersonally I think he will get paid close to max or max. He is a big with good size, a very good postgame, good rebounder, and he can pass the ball. He has improved on defense, and since he is still young he has more time to get better defensively. Alot of PF’s nowadays are not great defensively (think Love, Aldrige, Lee, and etc.) so I really do not think his defense will be a factor in how much money he gets paid. His stats have dipped a bit this year, but playing with Josh Smith who is chucking up shots probably explains that.
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 1:08pm #866906
Hector_Reyes_8ParticipantAldridge isn’t as bad as Lee on defense and Love isn’t as bad either. Sans Lee, Aldridge and Love don’t have a big that protects the rim like Lee has Bogut.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 1:08pm #867010
Hector_Reyes_8ParticipantAldridge isn’t as bad as Lee on defense and Love isn’t as bad either. Sans Lee, Aldridge and Love don’t have a big that protects the rim like Lee has Bogut.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:11am #866839
draftmangtParticipantI think the Cavs are a team that might look to throw big money at him. So much has been made about them saving cap space for Lebron but i just don’t see it happening. Monroe is going to be the best available FA that the Cavs have a realistic shot at signing and they need a big who can score efficiently in the worst way.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:11am #866736
draftmangtParticipantI think the Cavs are a team that might look to throw big money at him. So much has been made about them saving cap space for Lebron but i just don’t see it happening. Monroe is going to be the best available FA that the Cavs have a realistic shot at signing and they need a big who can score efficiently in the worst way.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:13am #866841
jaycee24ParticipantLove, Aldridge, Lee can hit a shot outside of ten feet. Watch Greg Monroe, he doesn’t take shots more than 14 feet like literally he may shoot one a game. Would you rather Monroe or Ibaka on your team? Serge hands down and he’s making 12 million a year. I know Smith and Drummond dip into his stats but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s limited. I know the NBA pays for size but if you spend a max deal and cut into your cap space on a guy like Greg you’re really putting yourself into a tough position. I realize he may develop a mid range game but he hasn’t shown much progress and you could almost say he’s digressed in that aspect. He’s real crafty in the way he grabs boards but he also can’t escape his lack of elite size, strength and athleticism. Watch him when he plays against bigger and/or more athletic bigs and you’ll see he struggles. I hate to sound like I’m bashing him because I really like Monroe and want him in Detroit but I think a team would be mistaken to pay him the kind of money you’d expect from a 1st or 2nd option
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:13am #866738
jaycee24ParticipantLove, Aldridge, Lee can hit a shot outside of ten feet. Watch Greg Monroe, he doesn’t take shots more than 14 feet like literally he may shoot one a game. Would you rather Monroe or Ibaka on your team? Serge hands down and he’s making 12 million a year. I know Smith and Drummond dip into his stats but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s limited. I know the NBA pays for size but if you spend a max deal and cut into your cap space on a guy like Greg you’re really putting yourself into a tough position. I realize he may develop a mid range game but he hasn’t shown much progress and you could almost say he’s digressed in that aspect. He’s real crafty in the way he grabs boards but he also can’t escape his lack of elite size, strength and athleticism. Watch him when he plays against bigger and/or more athletic bigs and you’ll see he struggles. I hate to sound like I’m bashing him because I really like Monroe and want him in Detroit but I think a team would be mistaken to pay him the kind of money you’d expect from a 1st or 2nd option
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 12:01pm #866876
aivsdirkParticipantWhy are you comparing him to David Lee and Aldridge to make your point in the 1st place? You could have easily made your case for him lacking elite athleticism without that. it is obvious. These are elite power forwards who have been around for a while, so obviously they had to develop at their own pce to reach their potential. Plus the reason why he was slid to power forward is because he works better there with Drummond at the center.That is why he sometimes struggles against bigger guys, when you are a 4 trying to guard other 5’s when he is rotated to the center spot sometimes it is going to be difficult. Monroe is young &definitely deserves 9Million a year at the least. No less than 10mil in my opinion. i can see him pairing up with Gasol in L.A. if Gasol is resigned. I think he is better off without Detroit. His game will continue to deteriorate playing alongside J.Smith and Jennings. I mean 1 of those guys with Monroe could work but both no deal.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 12:01pm #866979
aivsdirkParticipantWhy are you comparing him to David Lee and Aldridge to make your point in the 1st place? You could have easily made your case for him lacking elite athleticism without that. it is obvious. These are elite power forwards who have been around for a while, so obviously they had to develop at their own pce to reach their potential. Plus the reason why he was slid to power forward is because he works better there with Drummond at the center.That is why he sometimes struggles against bigger guys, when you are a 4 trying to guard other 5’s when he is rotated to the center spot sometimes it is going to be difficult. Monroe is young &definitely deserves 9Million a year at the least. No less than 10mil in my opinion. i can see him pairing up with Gasol in L.A. if Gasol is resigned. I think he is better off without Detroit. His game will continue to deteriorate playing alongside J.Smith and Jennings. I mean 1 of those guys with Monroe could work but both no deal.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:14am #866843
CameronCrazy11ParticipantMonroe is averaging 14.2 ppg and 8.8 rpg with a 17.53 PER. While his defense can be a liability at times, I’m sure there are plenty of teams around the league that would be willing to give him max or close to a max contract simply because quality big men are hard to come by in today’s NBA. Plus the Wizards have clearly shown interest in trading for him so if the money is there, I definitely expect them to try to bring a Georgetown kid back to DC.
Personally I think he and Andre Drummond complement each other perfectly and could help carry Detroit back into the playoffs together given some time. I thought bringing in Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith set them back in that process.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:14am #866740
CameronCrazy11ParticipantMonroe is averaging 14.2 ppg and 8.8 rpg with a 17.53 PER. While his defense can be a liability at times, I’m sure there are plenty of teams around the league that would be willing to give him max or close to a max contract simply because quality big men are hard to come by in today’s NBA. Plus the Wizards have clearly shown interest in trading for him so if the money is there, I definitely expect them to try to bring a Georgetown kid back to DC.
Personally I think he and Andre Drummond complement each other perfectly and could help carry Detroit back into the playoffs together given some time. I thought bringing in Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith set them back in that process.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:30am #866851
jaycee24ParticipantI’m right there with you I really liked the thought of a Monroe and Drummond for years to come but it looks like that’s going to next to impossible to make happen. If he were a 7 foot Roy Hibbert I’d understand the max dollar talk but I’d take Miles Plumlee at whatever he makes over a max contract Greg Monroe…It’s like buying a pop at a baseball game…way overpriced, what you want but not worth the money
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:30am #866748
jaycee24ParticipantI’m right there with you I really liked the thought of a Monroe and Drummond for years to come but it looks like that’s going to next to impossible to make happen. If he were a 7 foot Roy Hibbert I’d understand the max dollar talk but I’d take Miles Plumlee at whatever he makes over a max contract Greg Monroe…It’s like buying a pop at a baseball game…way overpriced, what you want but not worth the money
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 7:53am #866889
juves4783Participantmonroe would dribble circles around hibbert. plumlee is a very underestimated athlete, but doesn’t have the skill set that monroe has. monroe is a proven post scorer, rebounder and is probably the best passer on the court for the pistons. he has an intangible basketball iq that i think goes highly unnoticed. to even put up the number he is on that horrible pistons team is amazing. joe dumars really got that team in bad shape. signing josh smith to play sf is just a bad idea. they should’ve kept calderon to at least have someone that can feed the post once in a while. jennings idea of passing to the post is throwing up a 40′ jumper and hoping someone gets an offensive rebound…
if joe dumars has any sense, trade monroe now to someone that is going to offer him an extension and hope for some assets in return. he’s on pace to lose to the guy for nothing.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 7:53am #866786
juves4783Participantmonroe would dribble circles around hibbert. plumlee is a very underestimated athlete, but doesn’t have the skill set that monroe has. monroe is a proven post scorer, rebounder and is probably the best passer on the court for the pistons. he has an intangible basketball iq that i think goes highly unnoticed. to even put up the number he is on that horrible pistons team is amazing. joe dumars really got that team in bad shape. signing josh smith to play sf is just a bad idea. they should’ve kept calderon to at least have someone that can feed the post once in a while. jennings idea of passing to the post is throwing up a 40′ jumper and hoping someone gets an offensive rebound…
if joe dumars has any sense, trade monroe now to someone that is going to offer him an extension and hope for some assets in return. he’s on pace to lose to the guy for nothing.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:48am #866863
jaycee24ParticipantDo you think the cavs are done with Thompson then?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:48am #866761
jaycee24ParticipantDo you think the cavs are done with Thompson then?
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:55am #866865
wrectorParticipantCavs would probably slide Monroe to center
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:55am #866763
wrectorParticipantCavs would probably slide Monroe to center
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 11:46am #866870
aivsdirkParticipantthe sigining of j.smoove messed up the detroit rhythm. #questionable shot takers in jennings,smith,and stuckey obviously monroe cant deal with that when all 3 would have to take less shots too feed him but they dont. I like monroe too LAkers.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 11:46am #866973
aivsdirkParticipantthe sigining of j.smoove messed up the detroit rhythm. #questionable shot takers in jennings,smith,and stuckey obviously monroe cant deal with that when all 3 would have to take less shots too feed him but they dont. I like monroe too LAkers.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 8:04am #866893
BogDon_KryptParticipantIf Tiago gets 9 Mill a year, I say Monroe gets 14-16 per
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 8:04am #866790
BogDon_KryptParticipantIf Tiago gets 9 Mill a year, I say Monroe gets 14-16 per
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:12am #866901
khoss76ParticipantI wouldn’t pay for a guy like Monroe, he’s not a good shooter, nor a good defensive player. I think they should trade him for a consistent scoring guard and a young forward, while putting Smith at the four spot. Smith shoots way too much when he’s playing forward and he’s more efficient at the four
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:12am #866798
khoss76ParticipantI wouldn’t pay for a guy like Monroe, he’s not a good shooter, nor a good defensive player. I think they should trade him for a consistent scoring guard and a young forward, while putting Smith at the four spot. Smith shoots way too much when he’s playing forward and he’s more efficient at the four
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:22am #866907
SpartanGloryParticipantI have a feeling that the pistons are going to keep the team together for the remainder of the season and see what happens in free agency. I don’t think they let him walk though, the smart thing to do would be a sign and trade. The pistons are going to suck no matter what this season, they just need to be patient and not jump the gun on a trade unless it is truly too good to pass on.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:22am #866804
SpartanGloryParticipantI have a feeling that the pistons are going to keep the team together for the remainder of the season and see what happens in free agency. I don’t think they let him walk though, the smart thing to do would be a sign and trade. The pistons are going to suck no matter what this season, they just need to be patient and not jump the gun on a trade unless it is truly too good to pass on.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:33am #866913
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantI could see The 76ers trying to pry Greg Monroe away from the Pistons, if they we’re to offer him 4yrs/60million (At 15 million per.)
I can easily see a Team offer 4yrs/50 million, will the Pistons match that offer sheet and continue with their core of Jennings/Smith and Monroe, Drummond will be on that rookie contract awaiting a MAX contract in 2-3 years…
The Pistons have to make a decision soon and I figure Joe Dumars trys to re-sign/match any offer for Greg Monroe and take his chances flipping Josh Smith for some floor spacers next season(The Lakers may need a player like Smith and the Pistons could use a shooter like Young/Meeks or Henry)
Back to my original Thought.
Greg Monroe would be an ideal Pf/C next to Nerlens Noel IMO, he DOES have a good mid range jumper, maybe not at a Chris Bosh level but he can continue to add range and he’s already a great passer out the block and can score down low when asked to…
Monroe and Noel would compliment Thad Young, Evan Turner and hopefully Jabarri Parker(Top 5 pick) on the wings, while Micheal Carter Williams and to my surprise Tony Wroten push the basketball up and down the court, Spencer Hawes can be brought back to play off Noel/Monroe in the middle…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:33am #866810
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantI could see The 76ers trying to pry Greg Monroe away from the Pistons, if they we’re to offer him 4yrs/60million (At 15 million per.)
I can easily see a Team offer 4yrs/50 million, will the Pistons match that offer sheet and continue with their core of Jennings/Smith and Monroe, Drummond will be on that rookie contract awaiting a MAX contract in 2-3 years…
The Pistons have to make a decision soon and I figure Joe Dumars trys to re-sign/match any offer for Greg Monroe and take his chances flipping Josh Smith for some floor spacers next season(The Lakers may need a player like Smith and the Pistons could use a shooter like Young/Meeks or Henry)
Back to my original Thought.
Greg Monroe would be an ideal Pf/C next to Nerlens Noel IMO, he DOES have a good mid range jumper, maybe not at a Chris Bosh level but he can continue to add range and he’s already a great passer out the block and can score down low when asked to…
Monroe and Noel would compliment Thad Young, Evan Turner and hopefully Jabarri Parker(Top 5 pick) on the wings, while Micheal Carter Williams and to my surprise Tony Wroten push the basketball up and down the court, Spencer Hawes can be brought back to play off Noel/Monroe in the middle…
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 10:36am #866838
Jester87ParticipantMonroe’s mid range jumper is just a myth. He has good hands so he has to be a good mid range shooter. Monroe has attempted 347 shots from less than 5 ft, 411 from less than 8 ft, and he’s attempted 505 shot OVERALL. Of the remaining 94 shots he has hit only 33. He’s hit 7 of his 20 shots from 10-14 ft, 13 of his 51 attempts from 15-19 ft, 1-6 from 19-24. He’s 41-149 on jump shots (27.5%). Had very similar numbers last year (27.7% on jumpers, 30% from 10-14 ft, 29.4% from 15-19 ft, a surprising and probably flukey 50% on just 16 attempts from 19-24). He’s not a shooter, period. He’s a volume scorer in the paint, only 6 players have attempted more shots than him in the last 5 and 8 ft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 10:36am #866941
Jester87ParticipantMonroe’s mid range jumper is just a myth. He has good hands so he has to be a good mid range shooter. Monroe has attempted 347 shots from less than 5 ft, 411 from less than 8 ft, and he’s attempted 505 shot OVERALL. Of the remaining 94 shots he has hit only 33. He’s hit 7 of his 20 shots from 10-14 ft, 13 of his 51 attempts from 15-19 ft, 1-6 from 19-24. He’s 41-149 on jump shots (27.5%). Had very similar numbers last year (27.7% on jumpers, 30% from 10-14 ft, 29.4% from 15-19 ft, a surprising and probably flukey 50% on just 16 attempts from 19-24). He’s not a shooter, period. He’s a volume scorer in the paint, only 6 players have attempted more shots than him in the last 5 and 8 ft.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 10:22am #866836
Jester87ParticipantAl Jefferson had to go to the worst team in the league to get a $13 million per year deal. Monroe hasn’t proven to be as effective as a scorer and he’s not any better on defense. Also, he’s not shown any improvement in the last two years and I don’t think he has a lot of upside left. I like him, because of his passing skills and his old man style of play, but if he gets a max deal someone is going to regret it. Still, I can see some bad team playing in a small market and without any reliable bigs throwing money out of the window.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 10:22am #866939
Jester87ParticipantAl Jefferson had to go to the worst team in the league to get a $13 million per year deal. Monroe hasn’t proven to be as effective as a scorer and he’s not any better on defense. Also, he’s not shown any improvement in the last two years and I don’t think he has a lot of upside left. I like him, because of his passing skills and his old man style of play, but if he gets a max deal someone is going to regret it. Still, I can see some bad team playing in a small market and without any reliable bigs throwing money out of the window.
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