Dante Exum

 Not much like Carter Williams at all apart from the height. Carter Williams is a pure point, Exum is a combo. Carter Williams is a pretty good athlete, but Dante is in another league athletically. Not necessarily vertically, but he is one of the fastest guards I’ve EVER seen, NBA guys included. Both have streaky jumpers which is another similiarity I guess, but on the whole Dante is much more shooting guard and Carter Williams is much more point guard. He reminds me more of a rich mans Leandro Barbosa, with a little bit more height. And to those who think that comparison is underselling Exum, just remember that Barbosa was a freak of nature of the bench for the Suns, and continued to be until injuries started to take their toll and he lost his speed.

 Not much like Carter Williams at all apart from the height. Carter Williams is a pure point, Exum is a combo. Carter Williams is a pretty good athlete, but Dante is in another league athletically. Not necessarily vertically, but he is one of the fastest guards I’ve EVER seen, NBA guys included. Both have streaky jumpers which is another similiarity I guess, but on the whole Dante is much more shooting guard and Carter Williams is much more point guard. He reminds me more of a rich mans Leandro Barbosa, with a little bit more height. And to those who think that comparison is underselling Exum, just remember that Barbosa was a freak of nature of the bench for the Suns, and continued to be until injuries started to take their toll and he lost his speed.

This years mystery man, interesting that you said he was ‘is in another league athletically’. I think your not giving much credit tp MCW in that regard. I saw some of the footage from his ‘playoff’ tournament in Oz, he looked like a good hs player rather than the evolution of the guard position.

Can somebody clarify the level off competition in the league he was playing in Aus.? Will he be in the Hoop Summitt this year?

Really need to see more and against some ballers he seems like a real risky pick tbh

This years mystery man, interesting that you said he was ‘is in another league athletically’. I think your not giving much credit tp MCW in that regard. I saw some of the footage from his ‘playoff’ tournament in Oz, he looked like a good hs player rather than the evolution of the guard position.

Can somebody clarify the level off competition in the league he was playing in Aus.? Will he be in the Hoop Summitt this year?

Really need to see more and against some ballers he seems like a real risky pick tbh

He looked great against Spain in the U19 tourney, but the competition really isn’t that good.  I’m sure Semaj Christon could have put up similar numbers if given the opportunity Exum was.  I would be really wary of drafting Exum due to the inability of comparing his production or game to other prospects in the class.  I worry that this uncertainty will hurt his stock if he doesn’t attend college in the U.S.  Then again, Giannis Antetokounmpo went 15th in the 2013 draft despite even less exposure and less experience against tough competition.

He looked great against Spain in the U19 tourney, but the competition really isn’t that good.  I’m sure Semaj Christon could have put up similar numbers if given the opportunity Exum was.  I would be really wary of drafting Exum due to the inability of comparing his production or game to other prospects in the class.  I worry that this uncertainty will hurt his stock if he doesn’t attend college in the U.S.  Then again, Giannis Antetokounmpo went 15th in the 2013 draft despite even less exposure and less experience against tough competition.

I haven’t been really able to see much from him although he is one of my favorite prospects in this upcoming draft. Other than a rich man’s Leandro Barbosa, is there any other good comparisons?

I haven’t been really able to see much from him although he is one of my favorite prospects in this upcoming draft. Other than a rich man’s Leandro Barbosa, is there any other good comparisons?

 I think exum is this years man of mystery much like giannis was last year. 

I honestly dont know how anyone can make an honest evaluation on him at the moment though,  seein that no one has really seen him play much. So all we have is YouTube vids and those can make anyone look good. 

Come combine time thats when we will see him either slightly move up or really fall depending on his workouts or if he even worksout. So ill reserve my judgment since I havent seen him at all 

 I think exum is this years man of mystery much like giannis was last year. 

I honestly dont know how anyone can make an honest evaluation on him at the moment though,  seein that no one has really seen him play much. So all we have is YouTube vids and those can make anyone look good. 

Come combine time thats when we will see him either slightly move up or really fall depending on his workouts or if he even worksout. So ill reserve my judgment since I havent seen him at all 

I don’t see how you can judge a player based only on YouTube highlights. Smh. Anybody can look good on YouTube. Kwame Brown can look good on YouTube highlights.

I don’t see how you can judge a player based only on YouTube highlights. Smh. Anybody can look good on YouTube. Kwame Brown can look good on YouTube highlights.

 People are forgetting that he jumped onto people’s radar with a strong performance at the Hoop Summit, where he outplayed the US guards.

I still think he should take a year in college to learn and develop, because draft stock isn’t everything.

 People are forgetting that he jumped onto people’s radar with a strong performance at the Hoop Summit, where he outplayed the US guards.

I still think he should take a year in college to learn and develop, because draft stock isn’t everything.

I’m from Australia, a couple years younger then him, but I go to many of the tournaments he has played at, been watching him play domestic ball since like under 12’s. He is a freak of nature athletically, jumper is streaky as all hell, when its on it on, but when its off it is most certainly OFF. Point in case, final of the Australian High School Championships, he had like 40 points or something to that effect, but was 0-11 from 3. Only thing I would be wary about with drafting him with a top pick is that everyone down here in Australia plays zone. Its like every team is Syracuse. Press or a trap, usually some form of the Arrow press, then fall back into a zone, maybe a box and 1 if you’re playing a team like Exum’s where they have one stud. Very rarely is man played, and as such offense is very Spurs-like. Lots of ball movement and 3’s. Nobody really develops ISO game, and handles arent predicated very much. As such I’m worried why Exum hasnt developed his shot yet considering most of the time he is taking 5+ 3’s a game. He spends plenty of time in the gym too, not like he is lazy. Makes me worried if his shot is just flat out broke.

I’m from Australia, a couple years younger then him, but I go to many of the tournaments he has played at, been watching him play domestic ball since like under 12’s. He is a freak of nature athletically, jumper is streaky as all hell, when its on it on, but when its off it is most certainly OFF. Point in case, final of the Australian High School Championships, he had like 40 points or something to that effect, but was 0-11 from 3. Only thing I would be wary about with drafting him with a top pick is that everyone down here in Australia plays zone. Its like every team is Syracuse. Press or a trap, usually some form of the Arrow press, then fall back into a zone, maybe a box and 1 if you’re playing a team like Exum’s where they have one stud. Very rarely is man played, and as such offense is very Spurs-like. Lots of ball movement and 3’s. Nobody really develops ISO game, and handles arent predicated very much. As such I’m worried why Exum hasnt developed his shot yet considering most of the time he is taking 5+ 3’s a game. He spends plenty of time in the gym too, not like he is lazy. Makes me worried if his shot is just flat out broke.

This year’s Hoop Summit will go a long way to determine where he goes in the draft.

From YouTube clips and Hoop Summit 2013 – his handle and jumper need a lot of work, but he seems to have an exceptionally quick first step. 

This year’s Hoop Summit will go a long way to determine where he goes in the draft.

From YouTube clips and Hoop Summit 2013 – his handle and jumper need a lot of work, but he seems to have an exceptionally quick first step. 

I think Exum is a pure PG too, similar to MCW. I don’t think he has the jump shot to play SG and his unselfish nature and court vision mean he’d be stronger as a PG. This is open to debate of course…

As for Chilldude, who said we can’t judge him on youtube video’s alone, do not forget we can also look at his stats, team performance, what people say about him and any other available information to make a reasonable judgement as to his talent. It’s a challenge because he doesn’t play against other top level prospects on a week to week basis, but in his limited exposure to good competition he has proven to be the best backcourt player on the floor consistently. 

The other thing I like about Exum is his rebounding and shot blocking ability from the guard spot. I see him being a triple double threat every time he steps on the court. 

So which team could use him, and how high do you see him being drafted?

I think Exum is a pure PG too, similar to MCW. I don’t think he has the jump shot to play SG and his unselfish nature and court vision mean he’d be stronger as a PG. This is open to debate of course…

As for Chilldude, who said we can’t judge him on youtube video’s alone, do not forget we can also look at his stats, team performance, what people say about him and any other available information to make a reasonable judgement as to his talent. It’s a challenge because he doesn’t play against other top level prospects on a week to week basis, but in his limited exposure to good competition he has proven to be the best backcourt player on the floor consistently. 

The other thing I like about Exum is his rebounding and shot blocking ability from the guard spot. I see him being a triple double threat every time he steps on the court. 

So which team could use him, and how high do you see him being drafted?

 I’ve played with and against Exum in scrims and domestic games, while he isnt selfish, he isn’t a pure point. I dont want to sound like an asshole, but I’m coming from real life, every day experience with the dude, your views are just as valid, but they are mostly coming from small snippets of game play in select tournaments and games. Kid is far from a pure point, his mentality is to score first, pass second, not a knock on him either, every team needs an alpha dog willing to say "Give me the ball I got this" down the stretch.

 I’ve played with and against Exum in scrims and domestic games, while he isnt selfish, he isn’t a pure point. I dont want to sound like an asshole, but I’m coming from real life, every day experience with the dude, your views are just as valid, but they are mostly coming from small snippets of game play in select tournaments and games. Kid is far from a pure point, his mentality is to score first, pass second, not a knock on him either, every team needs an alpha dog willing to say "Give me the ball I got this" down the stretch.

 And in regards to his triple double threat, I wouldnt read too much into his rebounding stats against teams from Aus, as most centers over here arent taller then 6’6-6’7, hell I’m 6’3" at 17 and I have to play center on some of my teams where we dont have anyone taller(and I’m skinnier then a bean pole and usually run the point). Also his athletic ability is far and away the best in nearly all competition he faces down here, apart from the Sudanese guys, we dont have many dudes jumping out of the gym.

 And in regards to his triple double threat, I wouldnt read too much into his rebounding stats against teams from Aus, as most centers over here arent taller then 6’6-6’7, hell I’m 6’3" at 17 and I have to play center on some of my teams where we dont have anyone taller(and I’m skinnier then a bean pole and usually run the point). Also his athletic ability is far and away the best in nearly all competition he faces down here, apart from the Sudanese guys, we dont have many dudes jumping out of the gym.

I don’t know how good he is going to be, but sure he’s a big bet, one of the biggest in draft history. We’re talking about a guy we’ve seen play for like 7-8 games in a youth competition (ok, against some good players, but how many future Nba-ers were there?) and in the hoop summit. But aside from that he’s playing against teenagers in Australia, most of whom will never play ball for a living, not even at the lowest level of pro basketball. I mean, I’m pretty sure HS ball in Australia is much worse than HS ball in the US. Is there really ever been a player drafted that high having played against such a weak competition? I mean Nowitzki was considered an unknown but he dominated German second league division, it’s not great, but we’re still talking about a professional league and he single handedly brought his team to the first division. Even Giannis, ok, he wasn’t dominating like Nowitzki did, but still he was playing against professionals.

I’m not saying teams should stay away from him, because I haven’t been able to get an opinion on him and I do believe no one who isn’t a professional scout or lives in Australia might really have a clue about him. But it’s such a huge bet and I’m pretty sure that if he turns out to be a bust many of the guys now saying he’s such a talent, he’s great just having seen a couple of youtube highlights clips or read some scouting report, would be the first to blame the GM who drafted such an unproven player instead of solid college players like Smart, or Ennis, or Clarkson or whatever.

I don’t know how good he is going to be, but sure he’s a big bet, one of the biggest in draft history. We’re talking about a guy we’ve seen play for like 7-8 games in a youth competition (ok, against some good players, but how many future Nba-ers were there?) and in the hoop summit. But aside from that he’s playing against teenagers in Australia, most of whom will never play ball for a living, not even at the lowest level of pro basketball. I mean, I’m pretty sure HS ball in Australia is much worse than HS ball in the US. Is there really ever been a player drafted that high having played against such a weak competition? I mean Nowitzki was considered an unknown but he dominated German second league division, it’s not great, but we’re still talking about a professional league and he single handedly brought his team to the first division. Even Giannis, ok, he wasn’t dominating like Nowitzki did, but still he was playing against professionals.

I’m not saying teams should stay away from him, because I haven’t been able to get an opinion on him and I do believe no one who isn’t a professional scout or lives in Australia might really have a clue about him. But it’s such a huge bet and I’m pretty sure that if he turns out to be a bust many of the guys now saying he’s such a talent, he’s great just having seen a couple of youtube highlights clips or read some scouting report, would be the first to blame the GM who drafted such an unproven player instead of solid college players like Smart, or Ennis, or Clarkson or whatever.