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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:20pm #53308

SeattleSuperChronics
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Just read a pretty disturbing article on CNN about student athletes. Check it out
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html?c=homepage-t

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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:31pm #861023

FearTheStache
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I’ve read this article, and, although obviously colleges have to take some blame for this, are we ignoring the role of high schools? If these students are reading at an 8th grade level, that does not mean that they just stopped learning at college. With a literacy that poor, that only means that the high schools these players attended, typically private ones specializing in great basketball, are not even close to serving them well. I can understand that colleges aren’t helping this either, but isn’t it time to take a look at what’s going on behind the scenes at the high schools if the kids can’t read past a middle school level?

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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:31pm #861128

FearTheStache
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I’ve read this article, and, although obviously colleges have to take some blame for this, are we ignoring the role of high schools? If these students are reading at an 8th grade level, that does not mean that they just stopped learning at college. With a literacy that poor, that only means that the high schools these players attended, typically private ones specializing in great basketball, are not even close to serving them well. I can understand that colleges aren’t helping this either, but isn’t it time to take a look at what’s going on behind the scenes at the high schools if the kids can’t read past a middle school level?

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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:40pm #861024

SeattleSuperChronics
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It’s pretty simple from my point of view. I knew a ton of kids that couldn’t read at a highschool or middle school level in highschool. Guess what. They didnt go to college let alone get a scholarship. I feel the real problem is the NCAA is taking advantage of everyone involved. It’s a semi pro sports league that doesn’t care about or pay their players. Stop letting kids that can’t read into college and I bet they Learn to read.
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- Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 7:04pm #861060
  
  phila9012
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  The biggest problems are at schools that lose money off of sports as in the FCS teams. I go to the University of Maine and a max of 1 guy on the football or basketball team will play professionally. Both teams lose money. The school has no incentive to let guys like that in for either of those teams, the hockey team is the best team and what we are known for. Yet I have football players in my classes who sound like they have a fourth grade education and all it does is cost the average student, who is going in debt to pay for school, more money. This probably happens at a lot of mid majors/FCS schools.
  This should be stopped, they should treat student athletes like normal students and let the admissions people determine if they get accepted so that way if they get in they will be set up for success and if they don’t they should go to prep schools so they will be prepared for college.
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- Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 7:04pm #861167
  
  phila9012
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  The biggest problems are at schools that lose money off of sports as in the FCS teams. I go to the University of Maine and a max of 1 guy on the football or basketball team will play professionally. Both teams lose money. The school has no incentive to let guys like that in for either of those teams, the hockey team is the best team and what we are known for. Yet I have football players in my classes who sound like they have a fourth grade education and all it does is cost the average student, who is going in debt to pay for school, more money. This probably happens at a lot of mid majors/FCS schools.
  This should be stopped, they should treat student athletes like normal students and let the admissions people determine if they get accepted so that way if they get in they will be set up for success and if they don’t they should go to prep schools so they will be prepared for college.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:40pm #861130

SeattleSuperChronics
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It’s pretty simple from my point of view. I knew a ton of kids that couldn’t read at a highschool or middle school level in highschool. Guess what. They didnt go to college let alone get a scholarship. I feel the real problem is the NCAA is taking advantage of everyone involved. It’s a semi pro sports league that doesn’t care about or pay their players. Stop letting kids that can’t read into college and I bet they Learn to read.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:43pm #861027

Chewy
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The schools are not going to change anything because these players bring in money for their universities. It’s sad, but that’s the simply how the landscape with look as long as the NBA keeps using the NCAA as it’s own version of a baseball minor league.
We know about these top freshman who pretend to be students for a year because we know they are NBA bound, but where is the motivation for a 4 year player to study hard and get smarter when everyone around him is giving him a free pass?
Why should the university care about a students ability level post graduation where he no longer is making them money?
Flat out broken system.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 4:43pm #861132

Chewy
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The schools are not going to change anything because these players bring in money for their universities. It’s sad, but that’s the simply how the landscape with look as long as the NBA keeps using the NCAA as it’s own version of a baseball minor league.
We know about these top freshman who pretend to be students for a year because we know they are NBA bound, but where is the motivation for a 4 year player to study hard and get smarter when everyone around him is giving him a free pass?
Why should the university care about a students ability level post graduation where he no longer is making them money?
Flat out broken system.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 5:37pm #861046

llperez
it starts at home with the parents. Everyone wants to blame the schools, but its parents who don’t even care or pay attention to what their kids are doing and then use school like its supposed to do everything with 100’s of students per teacher.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 5:37pm #861153

llperez
it starts at home with the parents. Everyone wants to blame the schools, but its parents who don’t even care or pay attention to what their kids are doing and then use school like its supposed to do everything with 100’s of students per teacher.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 11:21pm #861201

NYK2010
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I thought this was gonna be about JR Smith based on the title.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2014 - 11:21pm #861094

NYK2010
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I thought this was gonna be about JR Smith based on the title.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2014 - 2:55am #861217
  
  capecodder
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  Give rocks more credit than that
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2014 - 2:55am #861110
  
  capecodder
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  Give rocks more credit than that
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  - Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2014 - 3:09am #861221
    
    tbennett76
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    J.R. passed and the Knicks immediately called timeout to check the temp of his forehead.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2014 - 3:09am #861114
    
    tbennett76
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    J.R. passed and the Knicks immediately called timeout to check the temp of his forehead.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2014 - 5:48am #861269

Crossyboy
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I feel that in the past the system has been allowed as there have been no other options, especially since the one-and-done rule.
With the growth of the D-League there’s the opportunity for players who aren’t academically able to play in league that allows them to get paid, whilst preparing them for the NBA.
The system should be simple. Academically competent? Play in College? Can’t read or write? Play D-League.
Lets stop this system which clearly exploits athletes whilst pretending to look out for them, where coaches are paid more than anyone else at the college and where athletes risk sanctions for minor financial indiscretions whilst the colleges make millions from them.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2014 - 5:48am #861162

Crossyboy
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I feel that in the past the system has been allowed as there have been no other options, especially since the one-and-done rule.
With the growth of the D-League there’s the opportunity for players who aren’t academically able to play in league that allows them to get paid, whilst preparing them for the NBA.
The system should be simple. Academically competent? Play in College? Can’t read or write? Play D-League.
Lets stop this system which clearly exploits athletes whilst pretending to look out for them, where coaches are paid more than anyone else at the college and where athletes risk sanctions for minor financial indiscretions whilst the colleges make millions from them.
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