Jefferson 3yr/$41mil with Bobcats

What’s Michael Jordan thinking?

And you meant Zeller, not Len.

What’s Michael Jordan thinking?

And you meant Zeller, not Len.

They are trying to get better. This ain’t the NFL. Is the NBA the NFL? I think its a great move. Zeller is a stretch four. Jefferson is a inside scorer rebounder. Perfect combo with great back ups for blocking shots. I am excited for the Bobcats. I still think MKG was the wrong pick but he will improve.

They are trying to get better. This ain’t the NFL. Is the NBA the NFL? I think its a great move. Zeller is a stretch four. Jefferson is a inside scorer rebounder. Perfect combo with great back ups for blocking shots. I am excited for the Bobcats. I still think MKG was the wrong pick but he will improve.

Don’t understand this at all. Jefferson is a talented player and can help a lot of teams, but what is the point of this signing? Bobcats go from 2nd worst team in the league to 7th-8th worst maybe? They are still 100% a lottery team and when teams are already trying to get better draft position (Celtics, Sixers) the Bobcats sign someone who doesn’t make them a playoff team and just gives them a lower lottery pick when they need the highest. I have zero faith in what the Bobcats are trying to do.

Don’t understand this at all. Jefferson is a talented player and can help a lot of teams, but what is the point of this signing? Bobcats go from 2nd worst team in the league to 7th-8th worst maybe? They are still 100% a lottery team and when teams are already trying to get better draft position (Celtics, Sixers) the Bobcats sign someone who doesn’t make them a playoff team and just gives them a lower lottery pick when they need the highest. I have zero faith in what the Bobcats are trying to do.

Jefferson to me is the most underrated player in the NBA. If I had a choice between 41 mil for 3 years for Al and 87 mil for 4 years for Dwight, I’d choose Al every single time. The fact of the matter is that Dwight has no offensive game at all. I know he was coming off of back surgery, but I don’t think he’ll be as dominant as he once was defensively. Imagine if Houston had gotten Jefferson, they would’ve had 8 million in the difference between Dwight’s first year salary and Al’s first year salary to spend on other guys(like Korver) and then they’d still be able to sign and trade for Josh Smith because of Lin and Asik if they wanted to do that. I just think that Charlotte got a steal, and they could be a team to watch out for if they can put the pieces together, although they’re still a looooong way away from being relevant.

Jefferson to me is the most underrated player in the NBA. If I had a choice between 41 mil for 3 years for Al and 87 mil for 4 years for Dwight, I’d choose Al every single time. The fact of the matter is that Dwight has no offensive game at all. I know he was coming off of back surgery, but I don’t think he’ll be as dominant as he once was defensively. Imagine if Houston had gotten Jefferson, they would’ve had 8 million in the difference between Dwight’s first year salary and Al’s first year salary to spend on other guys(like Korver) and then they’d still be able to sign and trade for Josh Smith because of Lin and Asik if they wanted to do that. I just think that Charlotte got a steal, and they could be a team to watch out for if they can put the pieces together, although they’re still a looooong way away from being relevant.

This kind of makes the Zeller drafting a little bit silly. Zeller to me is an offensive big man with below average defensive abilities, isn’t that basically Jefferson?
I mean Biyombo-Jefferson seems like a good combo, but did they draft a bench player with their fourth pick?

This kind of makes the Zeller drafting a little bit silly. Zeller to me is an offensive big man with below average defensive abilities, isn’t that basically Jefferson?
I mean Biyombo-Jefferson seems like a good combo, but did they draft a bench player with their fourth pick?

Jefferson is woefully underrated. Yes indeed. They need playoff experience to get better. Great signing.

Jefferson is woefully underrated. Yes indeed. They need playoff experience to get better. Great signing.

Best draft class in 11 years and the Bobcats sign a player who will make you just good enough to be out of the top 5 in the lottery, and just bad enough that you won’t make the playoffs. Nice.

Best draft class in 11 years and the Bobcats sign a player who will make you just good enough to be out of the top 5 in the lottery, and just bad enough that you won’t make the playoffs. Nice.

Jefferson is by far one of the 5 most underrated players today. In my eye’s, he’s the best low-post scorer in the NBA, plus he’s strong on the boards. He’s a weak defender, but his offense makes up for it. Like aamir said, he’s better value at $41 mill than Dwight at $87.

I’m kinda disapointed to see Al go to Charlotte, I wish he could’ve found a way to go to a better team like Chicago, who could really use him over Boozer. (Could Chicago have ammnieted Boozer and then signed Jefferson?)

Now, Charlotte has a legit starting 5. MKG will get better, Walker is underrated and has played well in his 1st 2 years, Henderson has been playing well also. If Zeller can play solid, then the Bobhornets have a shot at the playoffs! Although their bench could use some help, and really will need a shooter. It would be dumb for Charlotte to try to tank this year because there are going to be so many teams tanking, they’ve suffered enough loosing already (it’s time to turn things around), this draft class is deep enough to get a good prospect in the 10-16 range, and it’s stupid to hold back these young players.

Jefferson is by far one of the 5 most underrated players today. In my eye’s, he’s the best low-post scorer in the NBA, plus he’s strong on the boards. He’s a weak defender, but his offense makes up for it. Like aamir said, he’s better value at $41 mill than Dwight at $87.

I’m kinda disapointed to see Al go to Charlotte, I wish he could’ve found a way to go to a better team like Chicago, who could really use him over Boozer. (Could Chicago have ammnieted Boozer and then signed Jefferson?)

Now, Charlotte has a legit starting 5. MKG will get better, Walker is underrated and has played well in his 1st 2 years, Henderson has been playing well also. If Zeller can play solid, then the Bobhornets have a shot at the playoffs! Although their bench could use some help, and really will need a shooter. It would be dumb for Charlotte to try to tank this year because there are going to be so many teams tanking, they’ve suffered enough loosing already (it’s time to turn things around), this draft class is deep enough to get a good prospect in the 10-16 range, and it’s stupid to hold back these young players.

Philly, Boston, and Phoenix are happy. One less team fighting for the most ping pong balls.

The East is pretty bad right now I wouldn’t be surprised if Charlotte could be the 8th seed in the East if Henderson and Walker play as well as they did at times last season.

Could have been a huge draft for Charlotte. I just don’t understand their moves. They could have not only their own top pick in the 2014 draft but the Pistons and Blazers as well. Now if they don’t get in the top ten they won’t even have their own draft choice ( Bulls would get it from the Tyrus Thomas trade). I’m baffled by the terrible decisions this franchise continues to make.

Philly, Boston, and Phoenix are happy. One less team fighting for the most ping pong balls.

The East is pretty bad right now I wouldn’t be surprised if Charlotte could be the 8th seed in the East if Henderson and Walker play as well as they did at times last season.

Could have been a huge draft for Charlotte. I just don’t understand their moves. They could have not only their own top pick in the 2014 draft but the Pistons and Blazers as well. Now if they don’t get in the top ten they won’t even have their own draft choice ( Bulls would get it from the Tyrus Thomas trade). I’m baffled by the terrible decisions this franchise continues to make.

Bobcats gonna Bobcat.

Bobcats gonna Bobcat.

Jordan wants to win now I guess… too bad Jefferson won’t make a difference of more than 10 games.

The 2014 draft was one of the last beacons of hope for the Bobcats. Things just got way bleaker.

Jordan wants to win now I guess… too bad Jefferson won’t make a difference of more than 10 games.

The 2014 draft was one of the last beacons of hope for the Bobcats. Things just got way bleaker.

Yes Big Al is very underrated,he happens to be 1 of the 5 best post scorers in the league…So he immediately helps their inside scoring,last season they finished 24th in scoring in the paint and Walker led them with 6.6..This past season Jefferson scored 10 of his 17 pts in the paint…And he was 21st in player efficiency rating ,while Howard was 36th…

Jefferson doesn’t make them a playoff contender,becuz they’re still a pretty bad defensive team..But Jefferson,a more seasoned MKG and Zeller a guy i think will be among the 5 best rookies, will combine to give them about 7 to 10 more wins……..

I’m 50/50 on this move…Adding Jefferson helps their inside play and will give them a few more wins….But hurts them in the long run…

Yes Big Al is very underrated,he happens to be 1 of the 5 best post scorers in the league…So he immediately helps their inside scoring,last season they finished 24th in scoring in the paint and Walker led them with 6.6..This past season Jefferson scored 10 of his 17 pts in the paint…And he was 21st in player efficiency rating ,while Howard was 36th…

Jefferson doesn’t make them a playoff contender,becuz they’re still a pretty bad defensive team..But Jefferson,a more seasoned MKG and Zeller a guy i think will be among the 5 best rookies, will combine to give them about 7 to 10 more wins……..

I’m 50/50 on this move…Adding Jefferson helps their inside play and will give them a few more wins….But hurts them in the long run…

When you’re trying to change a loosing culture with your organization, the lasts thing you want to tell your players and fans it’s okay, no matter what the reason. This is a step in the right direction for the bobcats because it makes them more competitive. It motivates their players more and will help give drive on their young talent to develop.

And as s,entwined by other posters, it’s not like this will make the bobcats a sure in play-off team. So they’ll still get a pretty good pick in the 2014 draft, maybe even top 3 depending on the bounce of the ball. By it will put the,m in the proper direction which is as far away as the team that got the worst regular seasoasn record in nba history.

When you’re trying to change a loosing culture with your organization, the lasts thing you want to tell your players and fans it’s okay, no matter what the reason. This is a step in the right direction for the bobcats because it makes them more competitive. It motivates their players more and will help give drive on their young talent to develop.

And as s,entwined by other posters, it’s not like this will make the bobcats a sure in play-off team. So they’ll still get a pretty good pick in the 2014 draft, maybe even top 3 depending on the bounce of the ball. By it will put the,m in the proper direction which is as far away as the team that got the worst regular seasoasn record in nba history.

Tanking has not served them well the past two seasons. I don’t think they make the playoffs with that lineup.

Tanking has not served them well the past two seasons. I don’t think they make the playoffs with that lineup.

Great signing by the Bobcats and I like the idea of trying to end this awefull years of having no chance at all. Yes they won’t get a top 5 draft pick next year but hey, at some point you need to make a start and with the addition of Al and Zeller they went from NO post offense at all to pretty good now! 3 years and 41 million is pretty much a very good value to me.

I’m extremely interested to see now what the Rockets and Mavs are going to do if they miss out on Dwight with Jefferson gone! I hope the Jazz can keep Millsapp now, he is a fan favorite there and should keep them strong at the 3 and 4. People need to realise that if they lose both Millsapp and Jefferson they are going from a very strong frontcourt to very thin and unproven. Gobert is years away from making impact.

I really like this offseason now, news over news all day long!!

Great signing by the Bobcats and I like the idea of trying to end this awefull years of having no chance at all. Yes they won’t get a top 5 draft pick next year but hey, at some point you need to make a start and with the addition of Al and Zeller they went from NO post offense at all to pretty good now! 3 years and 41 million is pretty much a very good value to me.

I’m extremely interested to see now what the Rockets and Mavs are going to do if they miss out on Dwight with Jefferson gone! I hope the Jazz can keep Millsapp now, he is a fan favorite there and should keep them strong at the 3 and 4. People need to realise that if they lose both Millsapp and Jefferson they are going from a very strong frontcourt to very thin and unproven. Gobert is years away from making impact.

I really like this offseason now, news over news all day long!!

I don’t think Al Jefferson guarantees that the Bobcats won’t have a top five pick, Jefferson put up unbelievable numbers in Minnesota and yet the lowest first round pick they had was number 6 while his Utah days yielded picks later in the lottery but that was more of a testament to the depth on the Jazz. He will be a reliable first option on offense but I think they’re hoping Jefferson will be their version of Zach Randolph. North Carolina is a great city so the franchise has a platform to build on going forward and I like that they’re trying to create a stir with free agent signings like this.

I don’t think Al Jefferson guarantees that the Bobcats won’t have a top five pick, Jefferson put up unbelievable numbers in Minnesota and yet the lowest first round pick they had was number 6 while his Utah days yielded picks later in the lottery but that was more of a testament to the depth on the Jazz. He will be a reliable first option on offense but I think they’re hoping Jefferson will be their version of Zach Randolph. North Carolina is a great city so the franchise has a platform to build on going forward and I like that they’re trying to create a stir with free agent signings like this.

I think this means they clearly gave up on Biyombo and Mullens as starters.

What upsets me about this is that it takes away from Zellers ROY chances because he was looking to have a big year for them.

Believe it or not but in hindsigbt ida loved the Cats to of drafted Dion Waiters. Waiters and Walker are a great guard combo and Waiters is the alpha male scoring seat filling player the Cats need. More so then Beal, Barns or Drummond would be on that team.

Does this signify a trade? Remenber Cho called Zellee the best big man in the last few drafts…

I also think this means Oladipo was who they really wanted. Walker, Dipo, MKG, Biyombo, Jefferson is a nice lineup.

Big Al should average 20 n 10 in Charlottle.

I think this means they clearly gave up on Biyombo and Mullens as starters.

What upsets me about this is that it takes away from Zellers ROY chances because he was looking to have a big year for them.

Believe it or not but in hindsigbt ida loved the Cats to of drafted Dion Waiters. Waiters and Walker are a great guard combo and Waiters is the alpha male scoring seat filling player the Cats need. More so then Beal, Barns or Drummond would be on that team.

Does this signify a trade? Remenber Cho called Zellee the best big man in the last few drafts…

I also think this means Oladipo was who they really wanted. Walker, Dipo, MKG, Biyombo, Jefferson is a nice lineup.

Big Al should average 20 n 10 in Charlottle.

Obviously based on players age you have to move on. The celtics did well the past seasons with a$$es in seats. That’s called revenue. You miss on lottery wich does happen for some teams frequently and your screwed for 10 years on ping pong balls. Charlotte has youth and are getting better. They been to lottery enough and need a winning attitude. Sucking means low revenue that could last if you don’t get first 2 picks. Even still Irving is hurt often and Cleveland is lottery bound. Kyrie could leave. Risky business that tanking business. Rebuilding can be done without tanking is what I think. Lakers rarely are garbage. Check the history books. Its been done by them better than Boston. C’s have grabbed more rings is all. Jordan seems to have his head on straight to me. They got tradeable youth too.

Obviously based on players age you have to move on. The celtics did well the past seasons with a$$es in seats. That’s called revenue. You miss on lottery wich does happen for some teams frequently and your screwed for 10 years on ping pong balls. Charlotte has youth and are getting better. They been to lottery enough and need a winning attitude. Sucking means low revenue that could last if you don’t get first 2 picks. Even still Irving is hurt often and Cleveland is lottery bound. Kyrie could leave. Risky business that tanking business. Rebuilding can be done without tanking is what I think. Lakers rarely are garbage. Check the history books. Its been done by them better than Boston. C’s have grabbed more rings is all. Jordan seems to have his head on straight to me. They got tradeable youth too.

Let me take a wild guess! Solidify the paint now. Re-sign solid role players. Ben Gordon’s 1yr $12mil remaining on his contract will either be used as a bargaining trade chip or let him walk next year clearing cap space in hopes of making a serious move on a star (not quite a super star) in free agency 2014

Let me take a wild guess! Solidify the paint now. Re-sign solid role players. Ben Gordon’s 1yr $12mil remaining on his contract will either be used as a bargaining trade chip or let him walk next year clearing cap space in hopes of making a serious move on a star (not quite a super star) in free agency 2014

Not worth it. Not jumping on the Henderson deal either. But if that’s the best they thought they can get and the team needs playoffs now IMO. Morrison,Kwame they have learned. GM wants to keep his job. Some of you would no doubt lose yours.

Not worth it. Not jumping on the Henderson deal either. But if that’s the best they thought they can get and the team needs playoffs now IMO. Morrison,Kwame they have learned. GM wants to keep his job. Some of you would no doubt lose yours.

I actually like this deal for the Bobcats. Im pretty sure if they knew they were going to sign Al, they would’ve maybe drafted Ben Mclemore or a wing scorer instead. Big Al gives them a proven low post threat and immediately is the leader on that team. This takes a lot of pressure off of Zeller IMO. He is not the main guy and can learn without having to lead.
I think this signing does give them a chance to contend for a playoff spot and that’s exactly what the Bobcats need. I would rather make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed than to tank. For the players’ and fans’ sake, they need to make the playoffs and win some games to build the morality of the whole organization. The main thing right now is progress. I feel that the Big Al signing is major progress and will do wonders for the organization. I’m not sure, but I think Al Jefferson is the biggest name to date, that has been a member of the Bobcats. Gerald Wallace and Tyson Chandler are two others but I dont rank them as high as Al.

I actually like this deal for the Bobcats. Im pretty sure if they knew they were going to sign Al, they would’ve maybe drafted Ben Mclemore or a wing scorer instead. Big Al gives them a proven low post threat and immediately is the leader on that team. This takes a lot of pressure off of Zeller IMO. He is not the main guy and can learn without having to lead.
I think this signing does give them a chance to contend for a playoff spot and that’s exactly what the Bobcats need. I would rather make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed than to tank. For the players’ and fans’ sake, they need to make the playoffs and win some games to build the morality of the whole organization. The main thing right now is progress. I feel that the Big Al signing is major progress and will do wonders for the organization. I’m not sure, but I think Al Jefferson is the biggest name to date, that has been a member of the Bobcats. Gerald Wallace and Tyson Chandler are two others but I dont rank them as high as Al.

Al Jefferson is a durable and reliable scorer and if we do now consider him a true C then he is one of the top 3 to 5 offensive C’s in the NBA. I have never heard a bad word about him regarding attitude, effort etc but for all his good performances, he has never made any of his 3 NBA teams much better or made the play offs. So I wonder is something missing from his game or has he never played in the right situation?

Al has almost taken a rental in Charlotte, he would surely have got a 4 year guaranteed deal with a number of NBA teams. I can understand teams waiting for D12 to make his decision but Al has decided to cash in with Charlotte. The risk to him is fairly low, next season he will be in the last guaranteed year of his deal and if he puts up his 18 to 20/ 10 type form then he can always look to opt out and get a new deal elsewhere in 2015 or be traded and then the team that takes him can offer him the best deal.

I can understand Charlotte only being able to convince him to commit for two years but it must be seen as a positive move by the team and having moved Thomas via amnesty then it will free up minutes for Zeller to back up Biyombo and Jefferson. With Jefferson as a scorer then it will take the pressure off Biyombo and allow him to concentrate on defence whilst Patrick Ewing perhaps works on his offensive game with him.

Al Jefferson is a durable and reliable scorer and if we do now consider him a true C then he is one of the top 3 to 5 offensive C’s in the NBA. I have never heard a bad word about him regarding attitude, effort etc but for all his good performances, he has never made any of his 3 NBA teams much better or made the play offs. So I wonder is something missing from his game or has he never played in the right situation?

Al has almost taken a rental in Charlotte, he would surely have got a 4 year guaranteed deal with a number of NBA teams. I can understand teams waiting for D12 to make his decision but Al has decided to cash in with Charlotte. The risk to him is fairly low, next season he will be in the last guaranteed year of his deal and if he puts up his 18 to 20/ 10 type form then he can always look to opt out and get a new deal elsewhere in 2015 or be traded and then the team that takes him can offer him the best deal.

I can understand Charlotte only being able to convince him to commit for two years but it must be seen as a positive move by the team and having moved Thomas via amnesty then it will free up minutes for Zeller to back up Biyombo and Jefferson. With Jefferson as a scorer then it will take the pressure off Biyombo and allow him to concentrate on defence whilst Patrick Ewing perhaps works on his offensive game with him.

With this move Bobcats goes from 21 wins to maybe 25/27 wins, they will still have a high lottery pick, i bet that they will select in the top 5 in next draft, but with this sign, they gave a signal, to the players, to the fans, that they are commited to this team, they want to improved, they want to get better and with Al Jefferson, Bobcats have a veteran leader, a good player, that is as good back to basket, as is bad on the defense side.

With this sign, i can see only Orlando, Philly and perhaps Phoenix( depends of how productive Bledsoe e Len will be) as teams who can have a worst record that the Bobcats, is not thad bad, and we know that the team with the worst record rarely obtain the first pick.

With this move Bobcats goes from 21 wins to maybe 25/27 wins, they will still have a high lottery pick, i bet that they will select in the top 5 in next draft, but with this sign, they gave a signal, to the players, to the fans, that they are commited to this team, they want to improved, they want to get better and with Al Jefferson, Bobcats have a veteran leader, a good player, that is as good back to basket, as is bad on the defense side.

With this sign, i can see only Orlando, Philly and perhaps Phoenix( depends of how productive Bledsoe e Len will be) as teams who can have a worst record that the Bobcats, is not thad bad, and we know that the team with the worst record rarely obtain the first pick.

No one is commenting on Utah, did they just let him walk and get nothing for him ?

No one is commenting on Utah, did they just let him walk and get nothing for him ?

I don’t know, I don’t hate this deal.

Look, I know everyone wants to tank next year, but the Bobcats have been awful since they started existing. Maybe the opportunity to sign a solid NBA contributer was worth it for them. They have really no one on veteran, long-term contracts so it’s not like he’s messing up there cap. They’ve been bad, they’ve failed to land the number 1 pick or any franchise type guy, maybe they are sick of being at the bottom. Al Jefferson is good, this is a short term contract, and he will help the team get better. I see no problem with that.

I don’t know, I don’t hate this deal.

Look, I know everyone wants to tank next year, but the Bobcats have been awful since they started existing. Maybe the opportunity to sign a solid NBA contributer was worth it for them. They have really no one on veteran, long-term contracts so it’s not like he’s messing up there cap. They’ve been bad, they’ve failed to land the number 1 pick or any franchise type guy, maybe they are sick of being at the bottom. Al Jefferson is good, this is a short term contract, and he will help the team get better. I see no problem with that.

This isnt a bad deal at all for Charlotte IMO. Its a move that will be predicated on how well they draft in 2014, and they still need to upgrade at the SG. They also will find out as they start competing at a higher level, that Kemba Walker isnt a true starting PG. He’s a scorer off the bench and they need to get a pure PG who has size. But, they probably wont worry about that right now.

I feel as if this allows them some flexibility in the frontcourt. They can play Biyombo with Jefferson or with Zeller to help alleviate their defensive deficiencies, and because Zeller seems likely to have slumps and bouts of inefficiency as he adjusts. Jefferson really may have been the best scorer on the low block last season, and he’s been consistently good at that for his career. I think they will still struggle this year, and likely still be a lottery team in a projected deep draft, but their frontline could really gel well as time moves.

This isnt a bad deal at all for Charlotte IMO. Its a move that will be predicated on how well they draft in 2014, and they still need to upgrade at the SG. They also will find out as they start competing at a higher level, that Kemba Walker isnt a true starting PG. He’s a scorer off the bench and they need to get a pure PG who has size. But, they probably wont worry about that right now.

I feel as if this allows them some flexibility in the frontcourt. They can play Biyombo with Jefferson or with Zeller to help alleviate their defensive deficiencies, and because Zeller seems likely to have slumps and bouts of inefficiency as he adjusts. Jefferson really may have been the best scorer on the low block last season, and he’s been consistently good at that for his career. I think they will still struggle this year, and likely still be a lottery team in a projected deep draft, but their frontline could really gel well as time moves.

Charlotte also could potentially have Detroit’s 1st round pick which is Top-8 protected. With Detroit seemingly making a playoff push targeting Calderon, Gay, Igoudala, and Smith it is likely Charlotte gets a 12-16 pick overall from Detroit.Charlotte is trying to progress as well so they added a good player from a good team and spectacular organization. Charlotte will likely pick 10th to 14th because of all tanking teams.

Having Jefferson and two late lottery picks vs having a top three pick in the draft is a tough decision. Until you consider the fact that the Bobcats always tank and never get a chance to select 1st. They missed out on Howard and got Okafor same with Davis and MKG. Tanking isn’t always what it seems.

Charlotte also could potentially have Detroit’s 1st round pick which is Top-8 protected. With Detroit seemingly making a playoff push targeting Calderon, Gay, Igoudala, and Smith it is likely Charlotte gets a 12-16 pick overall from Detroit.Charlotte is trying to progress as well so they added a good player from a good team and spectacular organization. Charlotte will likely pick 10th to 14th because of all tanking teams.

Having Jefferson and two late lottery picks vs having a top three pick in the draft is a tough decision. Until you consider the fact that the Bobcats always tank and never get a chance to select 1st. They missed out on Howard and got Okafor same with Davis and MKG. Tanking isn’t always what it seems.