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- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 11:28am #50682

torontoraptors10ParticipantThe Toronto Raptors have joined the Orlando Magic at the head of the list of known suitors for Los Angeles Clippers guard Eric Bledsoe, according to sources close to the process. ESPN.com
The Raptors have been openly shopping forward Andrea Bargnani for months and would try, sources say, to include Bargnani in any deal for Bledsoe, which wouldn’t necessarily dissuade the Clippers, given their longstanding need for a big man who can stretch the floor. But sources add that Toronto guard DeMar DeRozan is the Raptor most likely to tempt the Clippers, which falls in line with L.A.’s interest in Arron Afflalo in their Bledsoe talks with Orlando. ESPN.com
Some rival executives believe that the Raptors are prepared to part with DeRozan — recipient of a $40 million contract extension last October — in the wake of Rudy Gay’s arrival and the front-office change that ushered out Bryan Colangelo (who authorized DeRozan’s new deal) and ushered in Masai Ujiri. ESPN.com
Here is a trade idea that I think can work out:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=px5nsq5
What do you guys think about the trade for both sides? What offers would you consider that could happen? Is it a good trade for Toronto or LA Clippers?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 11:36am #809478
KHAM83ParticipantIf in clippers, I would rather Ross and his shooting ata rookie salary. But Orlando is a much better partner with Afflalo and either Harrington or Nicholson who ate both stretch fours.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 11:36am #809413
KHAM83ParticipantIf in clippers, I would rather Ross and his shooting ata rookie salary. But Orlando is a much better partner with Afflalo and either Harrington or Nicholson who ate both stretch fours.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 11:47am #809484
SliderParticipantI agree with KHAM83. The Clippers will need a SG and Afflalo is a better fit for what Doc Rivers’ system. Plus getting a young PF in Nicholson to play behind Griffin, that would be amazing to see.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 11:47am #809419
SliderParticipantI agree with KHAM83. The Clippers will need a SG and Afflalo is a better fit for what Doc Rivers’ system. Plus getting a young PF in Nicholson to play behind Griffin, that would be amazing to see.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 12:07pm #809492
stacebeansParticipantWhoever trades for bledsoe should be fired. He isn’t that good. I’d rather keep andre than trade for him
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 12:07pm #809427
stacebeansParticipantWhoever trades for bledsoe should be fired. He isn’t that good. I’d rather keep andre than trade for him
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 12:15pm #809510

Chilbert arenasParticipantClips don’t want Bargs and should rather have Afflalo over DeRozan. I also don’t think I’d be comfortable with DeRozan back home.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 12:15pm #809445

Chilbert arenasParticipantClips don’t want Bargs and should rather have Afflalo over DeRozan. I also don’t think I’d be comfortable with DeRozan back home.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:15pm #809522

BrianalexParticipantThree team trade Rockets, Clippers, Pistons.
Rockets receive Eric Bledsoe, Kyle Singler and protected 1st round pick from the Clippers
Clippers receive Chandler Parsons
Pistons receive Jeremy LinRockets lineup
Bledsoe/Cannon
Harden/James Anderson
Kerilinko/Singler
Motiejunas/Robinson
Howard/AsikClippers lineup
Paul/ Billups
Butler/Crawford
Parsons/Bullock
Griffin/Odom
Jordan/OnealPistons lineup
Lin/ Morris
Knight/ Stuckey
Pope/English
Monroe/ Jerbko/Villnevo
Drummond/ Hollins0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:15pm #809457

BrianalexParticipantThree team trade Rockets, Clippers, Pistons.
Rockets receive Eric Bledsoe, Kyle Singler and protected 1st round pick from the Clippers
Clippers receive Chandler Parsons
Pistons receive Jeremy LinRockets lineup
Bledsoe/Cannon
Harden/James Anderson
Kerilinko/Singler
Motiejunas/Robinson
Howard/AsikClippers lineup
Paul/ Billups
Butler/Crawford
Parsons/Bullock
Griffin/Odom
Jordan/OnealPistons lineup
Lin/ Morris
Knight/ Stuckey
Pope/English
Monroe/ Jerbko/Villnevo
Drummond/ Hollins0- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:36pm #809528
SliderParticipantThe Rockets isn’t going to trade away from Parsons! He is helping to recruit Dwight Howard to Houston
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:36pm #809463
SliderParticipantThe Rockets isn’t going to trade away from Parsons! He is helping to recruit Dwight Howard to Houston
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:33pm #809534

delfamParticipantDerozan would be horrible in LA, he is the type of player they already have, someone with no basketball skill and can only dunk and is super athletic. Afflalo would be the perfect fit for LA, a crafty defender who is a good shooter.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:33pm #809469

delfamParticipantDerozan would be horrible in LA, he is the type of player they already have, someone with no basketball skill and can only dunk and is super athletic. Afflalo would be the perfect fit for LA, a crafty defender who is a good shooter.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:41pm #809530

Forte IVParticipantAs a die hard Clipper fan I’d rather have DeRozan as compared to Afflalo.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:41pm #809465

Forte IVParticipantAs a die hard Clipper fan I’d rather have DeRozan as compared to Afflalo.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:46pm #809475

delfamParticipantClippers have to realize they aren’t going to win a title with all these unskilled players like Griffin and Jordan. Adding Derozan to that team would only make it worse. Afflalo is the exact type of person they need.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:58pm #809477

BrianalexParticipantI live in Los Angeles so I see almost all the Clippers and Lakers games. Yes, they might not win it all with Jordan is their center because he has a low basketball IQ and is terrible offensively, but don’t say Griffin is unskilled just cause all you see on sports center is his top dunks. He has I high IQ for the game, has some post moves better than Dwight Howard. He is getting better overall at shooting and with Doc Rivers I believe he will improve his defense. There are so many Blake Griffin, Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howards haters on this board. Haters always going to hate.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:58pm #809542

BrianalexParticipantI live in Los Angeles so I see almost all the Clippers and Lakers games. Yes, they might not win it all with Jordan is their center because he has a low basketball IQ and is terrible offensively, but don’t say Griffin is unskilled just cause all you see on sports center is his top dunks. He has I high IQ for the game, has some post moves better than Dwight Howard. He is getting better overall at shooting and with Doc Rivers I believe he will improve his defense. There are so many Blake Griffin, Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howards haters on this board. Haters always going to hate.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:46pm #809540

delfamParticipantClippers have to realize they aren’t going to win a title with all these unskilled players like Griffin and Jordan. Adding Derozan to that team would only make it worse. Afflalo is the exact type of person they need.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:49pm #809536

Forte IVParticipantDeRozan does more then just dunk
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:49pm #809471

Forte IVParticipantDeRozan does more then just dunk
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:51pm #809473

BrianalexParticipantI just don’t see the Clippers taking the contract of Bargini. The most logical trade in my opinion is
Bledsoe, Jordan and protected 1st round pick for Jonas Valancuis, Demar Derozan and Amir JohnsonClippers roster
Chris Paul/ Chauncey Billups
Demar Derozan/ Jamal Crawford
Caron Butler/ Reggie Bullock
Blake Griffin/ Lamar Odom
Jonas V/ Amir JohnsonRaptors roster
Kyle Lowry/ Eric Bledsoe
Terrance Ross/Landy Fields
Rudy Gay/ Alan Anderson
Andrea Bargini/ Quincy Acy
Deandre Jordan/ Aaron GrayBy the way, the raptors roster looks a lot similar to the nuggets roster? they just need a Faried type player, Masia Ujri i see what your trying to do!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 1:51pm #809538

BrianalexParticipantI just don’t see the Clippers taking the contract of Bargini. The most logical trade in my opinion is
Bledsoe, Jordan and protected 1st round pick for Jonas Valancuis, Demar Derozan and Amir JohnsonClippers roster
Chris Paul/ Chauncey Billups
Demar Derozan/ Jamal Crawford
Caron Butler/ Reggie Bullock
Blake Griffin/ Lamar Odom
Jonas V/ Amir JohnsonRaptors roster
Kyle Lowry/ Eric Bledsoe
Terrance Ross/Landy Fields
Rudy Gay/ Alan Anderson
Andrea Bargini/ Quincy Acy
Deandre Jordan/ Aaron GrayBy the way, the raptors roster looks a lot similar to the nuggets roster? they just need a Faried type player, Masia Ujri i see what your trying to do!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:05pm #809481
ReekoParticipantYou think that the raptors would trade a potential all star centre down the road, in Jonas for a back up pg and a starting centre who literally all he can do is dunk and block some shots. Deandre has no shooting ability and his iq and work ethic are questionable. The clippers made a terrible decision trading away their pick in ’15 for a friggin coach that didn’t even want to be in Boston anymore. That ’15 draft is going to be stacked and the clippers window is closing. The clips are a serious injury away to Paul or griffin from finding themselves in the lottery.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:23pm #809497
aramboneParticipantSame with the Nets, and i doubt even a russian billionaire will be happy when the repeat tax offender penalties kick in in 2014-15 and he already has 77 mill tied up in williams, johnson, lopez, and kg.
Danny Ainge has done very well this summer.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:23pm #809563
aramboneParticipantSame with the Nets, and i doubt even a russian billionaire will be happy when the repeat tax offender penalties kick in in 2014-15 and he already has 77 mill tied up in williams, johnson, lopez, and kg.
Danny Ainge has done very well this summer.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:05pm #809546
ReekoParticipantYou think that the raptors would trade a potential all star centre down the road, in Jonas for a back up pg and a starting centre who literally all he can do is dunk and block some shots. Deandre has no shooting ability and his iq and work ethic are questionable. The clippers made a terrible decision trading away their pick in ’15 for a friggin coach that didn’t even want to be in Boston anymore. That ’15 draft is going to be stacked and the clippers window is closing. The clips are a serious injury away to Paul or griffin from finding themselves in the lottery.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:06pm #809483
ReekoParticipantDouble post my bad.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:06pm #809548
ReekoParticipantDouble post my bad.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:20pm #809488

BrianalexParticipantClipper will be a good team for about 4 years, you can say that every teams top two players reeko.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:20pm #809554

BrianalexParticipantClipper will be a good team for about 4 years, you can say that every teams top two players reeko.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:43pm #809515

Chilbert arenasParticipantThe Blake being unskilled argument is a very weak one and comes only from people that don’t watch the games. How does an unskilled power forward have multiple triple doubles in his career?
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 4:47pm #809576

DolanCareParticipantBlake is definitely skilled with a great post game now. But he’s far from a complete player. Thats the main criticism that he deserves. His lack of a mid range shot and poor defensive play have hurt his team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 4:47pm #809642

DolanCareParticipantBlake is definitely skilled with a great post game now. But he’s far from a complete player. Thats the main criticism that he deserves. His lack of a mid range shot and poor defensive play have hurt his team.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:43pm #809581

Chilbert arenasParticipantThe Blake being unskilled argument is a very weak one and comes only from people that don’t watch the games. How does an unskilled power forward have multiple triple doubles in his career?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:48pm #809513

T-Dot-BallerParticipantWhy the hell would be give up derozan for bledsoe. Kyle Lowry is better than Bledsoe in just about every facet of the game. All this Bledsoe mania never made any sense to me. He is a fine backup PG, and that’s it. Let’s look at some advanced stats to compare the two.
WS/48
Lowry .133
Bledsoe .115TS%
Lowry .543
Bledsoe .513eFG%
Lowry .482
Bledsoe .473Ast%
Lowry 34.6%
Bledsoe 23.5%Ortg
Lowry 110
Bledsoe 102TRB%
Lowry 9.5%
Bledsoe 8.6%Drtg
Lowry 106
Bledsoe 101PER
Lowry 17.5
Bledsoe 17.3Per 36 Ast/TO ratio
Lowry 2.79
Bledsoe 1.69Literally the only category that Bledsoe is better than Lowry in is Drtg by a small but appreciable margin. Everything else Lowry trumps him, and he trumps him by a lot in the stats that really matter for PG’s (Ast%, Ast/TO ratio). Not to mention this was a poor shooting year for Lowry, yet he still easily outperformed Bledsoe. Also, Bledsoe is also signed for just one more year, so we’d have to resign him to a similar amount we’d have to pay Lowry, so it really is a straight up comparison.
So, please remind me again why we would want Bledsoe over Lowry in the first place?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 2:48pm #809579

T-Dot-BallerParticipantWhy the hell would be give up derozan for bledsoe. Kyle Lowry is better than Bledsoe in just about every facet of the game. All this Bledsoe mania never made any sense to me. He is a fine backup PG, and that’s it. Let’s look at some advanced stats to compare the two.
WS/48
Lowry .133
Bledsoe .115TS%
Lowry .543
Bledsoe .513eFG%
Lowry .482
Bledsoe .473Ast%
Lowry 34.6%
Bledsoe 23.5%Ortg
Lowry 110
Bledsoe 102TRB%
Lowry 9.5%
Bledsoe 8.6%Drtg
Lowry 106
Bledsoe 101PER
Lowry 17.5
Bledsoe 17.3Per 36 Ast/TO ratio
Lowry 2.79
Bledsoe 1.69Literally the only category that Bledsoe is better than Lowry in is Drtg by a small but appreciable margin. Everything else Lowry trumps him, and he trumps him by a lot in the stats that really matter for PG’s (Ast%, Ast/TO ratio). Not to mention this was a poor shooting year for Lowry, yet he still easily outperformed Bledsoe. Also, Bledsoe is also signed for just one more year, so we’d have to resign him to a similar amount we’d have to pay Lowry, so it really is a straight up comparison.
So, please remind me again why we would want Bledsoe over Lowry in the first place?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 4:45pm #809578

tdigiParticipantToronto owes over 38 million to the Gay-Derozen-bargniani trio next year. What a mess. They need to ship at least Gay and Bargniani out for late first round picks to a contender willing to take on salary. What about the expiring deals of Gasol and World Peace plus a first round lakers pick for Bargniani and Gay.
And if I was the raptors on this deal I might just buy out gasol and artest. Just bottom out and rebuild through the draft starting next year.0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 4:45pm #809644

tdigiParticipantToronto owes over 38 million to the Gay-Derozen-bargniani trio next year. What a mess. They need to ship at least Gay and Bargniani out for late first round picks to a contender willing to take on salary. What about the expiring deals of Gasol and World Peace plus a first round lakers pick for Bargniani and Gay.
And if I was the raptors on this deal I might just buy out gasol and artest. Just bottom out and rebuild through the draft starting next year.0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 4:53pm #809574
kingofbumsParticipantdoc is gonna want a sg that can d up as well and not just score. derozan has improved his defense but those duck feet of his are still holding him back from even being an avg defender
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 4:53pm #809640
kingofbumsParticipantdoc is gonna want a sg that can d up as well and not just score. derozan has improved his defense but those duck feet of his are still holding him back from even being an avg defender
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 5:53pm #809609
Ahkasi ClayParticipantThey should have taken the offer Utah made them at the trade deadline. To late now.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 5:53pm #809674
Ahkasi ClayParticipantThey should have taken the offer Utah made them at the trade deadline. To late now.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 6:12pm #809616
TEQU1LAParticipantYeah, this kid ain’t worth DeRozan , lol. What so amusing about this vid is that most of his highlights are blocks not bad for a 6’1 guard
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V98r7abFH6U
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/29/2013 - 6:12pm #809681
TEQU1LAParticipantYeah, this kid ain’t worth DeRozan , lol. What so amusing about this vid is that most of his highlights are blocks not bad for a 6’1 guard
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V98r7abFH6U
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