Is it Crazy to Think KCP > McLemore

No, it’s not crazy.
I’ve been comparing them as prospects.
If KCP was in Kansas and McLemore was in Georgia I would like to see what people would be saying.

and your serious??

I do not think it is crazy because of the parity in this years draft. In the top 10, no single player is that much better than any one else. There are a number of SGs on the same level (or close to it) as McLemore in this years draft that won’t cost a top 3 pick. Just to name a few – Oladipo, KCP, Hardaway Jr., Crabbe, Jamaal Franklin, Michael Snaer, Ricardo Ledo. I did not include players like C.J. McCollum, Lorenzo Brown, Archie Goodwin, or Brandon Paul because they are all under 6’5. Another big point, a number of the players I listed had to face defenses focused on stopping them so they have more ability to create their own shots.

McLemore looked great because there were so many other options on his team and Kansas is such a well coached team. Defenses could not focus all their attention on him so he got a ton of good looks and ended up with stellar percentages. Also, Ben never really showed the killer instinct it takes to be great, he never really took over games and carried his team to victory.

I am not saying that KCP or any other SG in the draft will be better than McLemore, I am just saying I won’t be surprised if Ben is not the best in the long run.

The difference basically is KCP went to a terrible team, and McLemore went to Kansas.

I actually like B Mac a lot, but I love KCP as a sleeper. He has a lot of tools and could very solid for someone.

Ben Mclemore is a little longer, a little more athletic, and a little bit of a better shooter. But I agree with your premise that McLemore is overrated and KCP is underrated.

All I’m gonna say is that I think Archie Goodwin still is the best SG prospect in the class so that just shows you how wide open this thing is.

I still think mclemore is probably gnna be a top overall pick… like ive said before.. if noel was playing I would take him top pick with no hesitation… ive honestly only seen KCP play twice in college ever so I cant even judge… mclemore has all the tools to be a pretty damn good player though… someone about last week was bringing up wes Johnson and how wes Johnson couldn’t create off the dribble at all and how it has impacted him up until now.. and we know mclemore isnt a shot creator off the bounce.. I see what they were trying to say but lets not forget that Johnson I think was 23 when he was drafted and mclemore is just 20 so three yrs makes a huge difference in development… I think that or maybe wes Johnson is just a lazy ass and doesn’t work on his game

this draft is pretty crap anyways lol, everyone being put higher on the board then they would in a better draft

I’ve been hoping that KCP flies under the radar enough for the TWolves to snatch him up with whatever their pick will be (8-12). Hopefully playing at Georgia helped him by forcing him to develop parts of his game, while also hurting him by limiting his exposure.

How is KCP defensively? I doubt he was forced to focus on defense very much given he was the only guy who could make a shot for Georgia, and that could be where the difference lies with McLemore and him. McLemore has shown some defensive potential in the passing lanes and the open court where KCP is probably been hiding a bit more because he was needed to score.

I actually think there is an argument that can be made for the two being comparable. McLemore obviously is more athletic and fluid. He looks the part of what an NBA 2 guard should be like, but if he goes to a team where he has to be the man and Caldwell goes to a team (like MN) where he can be more a role player (like Mclemore was this year at Kansas) then people will look at KCP as a more successful pick.

Mclemore is better. He is more athletic, has more strength, a better defender, better shot selection and better teammate.

KCP = shoots too much, doesn’t pass the ball enough, needs to get stronger

Goodwin = Better shot creater than BM, KCP , but not as good as jump shot, a little undersized at the SG spot. Also doesn’t pass the ball enough and at times wild. Reminds me of a Jordan Crawford

This is a down draft, and Ben McLemore may not be an exciting choice for the 1st pick, where franchises are supposedly changed, but you guys are sleeping on him way too much now. He is still the best SG prospect in this draft and I think a lot of you are going to be surprised in just how well his game translates to the uptempo, spacing friendly NBA.

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Its not crazy at all. Not that much separation if any between them. I like the fact that KCP played for a worse team because he was forced to create his offense at times when others couldnt provide any. BMac had the luxury of having a lot of help which is why he disappeared at times. I would take KCP as high as #9 in Minny.

McLemore is the better prospect, yes. But the difference between the 2 probably isnt as large as many people think. typically the difference between a top 3 pick and a guy going 10-15 is significant…this case seems different. It shows how this draft is constructed.

Whoever brought up CJ Mccollum made me laugh, the dude is playing in the Patriot League…little different animal than the SEC or Big12 when it comes to being able to trust your teammates to score and make the right plays against their respective opposition.

Fair enough rocketdan9…I will agree to disagree. I see Mcollum as a really good 6th man type guy and Caldwell as a fringe starting role player type. I’ve been wrong many times, so to be wrong in this case would not come as a shock.

For what its worth, my point with the Patiot league v SEC is that Mcollums teammates arent getting guarded by players that are markedly better then them. Caldwells teammates were. It would be understandable if that gives somebody pause about trusting their teammates and not trying to do too much.

Mcollum may very well be a better shot creator, which would lead me to think his best role would be a Lou Williams type 6th man, while KCP could be a Wes Matthews type guy who is a 4th or 5th option on a good team, but gets his shots more in the flow of an offense.