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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 6:32am #47012
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    I know it’s popular to look at only stats per game like PPG, APG, or RPG but maybe we should start looking at percentages of totals..

    Quick explanation:

    Carmelo Anthomy is leading the NBA in scoring at this moment but is he leading in percentage of total scoring for his team?

    The Knicks average 100.1 points per game and Melo is averaging 28.6 points per game. That means that Melo is scoring 28.57% of the Knicks points! That crazy and as far as I can tell, he is the leader in the league at this.

    Other guys who are leaders in PPG:

    Kevin Durant – 26.80%
    Kobe Bryant – 26.69%
    Lebron James – 26.13%
    James Harden – 24.49%
    Russel Westbrook – 21.93%
    Kyrie Irving – 23.87%
    Stephen Curry – 21.90%

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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 6:38am #752340
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    DipoTime
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    I really like that, because so often people will say yeah but look at the offense they run.. they are uptempo so its not like he scores that much ya know?

    At the same time, you also have to factor in the percentage of shots they take. For example if the Knicks collectively shoot the ball 75 times in one game and Melo takes 25 of them, then he is shooting the ball 33.3%, while actually scoring the ball 28.57% right? IDK if that would be considered good or bad lol but it just kind of expands on your idea

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    • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 6:40am #752341
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      The8thDeadlySin
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      I agree. Also, the only way I would be able to know if that’s good or bad would just be to look and everyone’s stats around the league and see who the leaders are and how high their shot percentage is.

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      • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 6:51am #752345
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        DipoTime
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        Yeah that is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe you should contact ESPN about this lol they do all kinds of weird and random facts and stats. This is something that really should be talked about at least because it is interesting

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        • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 7:17am #752350
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          Idk if it would work like this but I would imagine it would.

          Melo is scoring 28.57 percent of their points but he is taking 26.85 percent of their shots.. I feel like that is good since his scoring number is higher than his shooting number. I’m on my phone right now but later, when I have my computer, I’m going to look further into this..

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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 7:11am #752348
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    if only they could keep westbrook, harden and durant.. muhuahaha

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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 9:11am #752362
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    interesting topic guys. i just did a quick search and saw that of the players mentioned above, heres a breakdown of how many shots they take of their total team’s attempts.

    Kobe – 25%
    Westbrook – 24%
    LeBron – 23%
    Durant – 23%
    Irving – 22%
    Harden – 21%
    Curry – 21%

    if i have some time later, i’d like to see how the talented teammates of the guys above shoot in comparison to their main scorers.

    LAL – Kobe, Howard, Gasol, Nash, W.Peace
    OKC – Durant,Westbrook, Ibaka
    MIA- James, Wade, Bosh
    CLE – Irving and Waiters
    HOU – Harden, Lin, Parsons
    GSW – Curry, Lee, Thompson

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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 10:24am #752386
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    Siggy
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    Or you could just use normalized, pace adjusted stats.
    If you either use this method or your method, you get the same results. Melo is the most prolific scorer in the NBA currently. Carmelo also leads the league in shot attempts. Scoring is more than being prolific though. Efficiency matters, otherwise straight up chucking is rewarded.
    Using normalized, pace adjusted scoring stats Carmelo scores a point more per game, yet Durant scores his points on 65 TS%, whereas Melo gets his on 56 TS%. That is a pretty big difference. Durant is volume scoring at a historically efficient rate.
    Break down their Points Per Shot and the difference is even more glaring.
    Durant scores 1.59 points per shot attempt.
    Carmelo scores 1.29 points per shot attempt, putting him at around 72nd in the league in that category.

    Bottom line, yes Melo is a great scorer, but he also shoots A LOT.

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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 11:11am #752408
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    Bird_Years
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    Somewhat related and interesting stat, is Tyson Chandler has led the league in OFFENSIVE rating for the past three years. That’s points scored per 100 possessions while he’s on the floor.

    A big part of this is because he’s been paired with Dirk or Carmelo for most of those possessions but it also demonstrates the benefit of having a big man on the floor who can grab offensive boards, set proper picks, finish around the rim and not take stupid shots.

    His numbers were:

    2010: 131
    2011: 130
    2012: 136

    *from basketball-reference.com

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  • Posted on: Mon, 03/04/2013 - 3:01pm #752492
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    I didnt look at Durant’s stats as far as his shots taken.. I bet his scoring percentage vs shooting percentage is much better than Melo’s.

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