(Please Post!!!!)Mock Draft 3.5 Picks, Now updated and commentary and more Trade talk

hawks need a pg

Atlanta needs alot…they will have only 7 guys on there roster next season, they will need a backup PG.

This one is really well done, one of the best I seen. Although I don’t think the last 5 picks in the first round will all go to SF, I say Dionte gets picks ahead of one of them at least, maybe Casspi will slip to the 2nd round. I’m also not sold Derrick Brown as a player who can contribute to the NBA career wise, but thats just my opinion.

Since I follow Utah, is good to see them getting Blair to replace Boozer, while in the 2nd round…They should get AJ Price over Vasquez as their back up point guard since Price can really feed into the sort of style that D-Will plays…and give the Jazz control of the tempo all 48 minutes long on the court.

1st off Thank you…thats my goal…i think i will try to make 2 two more mocks by the time the draft comes around.

I know…i think im gonna retool my 2nd round later…I like Price becuse he knows how to work with big man really well.

Vasques is a mystery to me. He is more of a SG trying to be a PG.

You did a good job. I only have two concerns. I thought that the Pacers already had T.J Ford. What is the need for Jonny Flynn? Also, Many people project that the Suns get Flynn. Great Mock tho. P.S Jeff Teague might withdraw as well

Yea…i think Flynn is tougher, Ford at Texas was a good jump shooter who beat alot of people with his speed. Flynn will drive alot and is stronger

Teague should stay in the Draft. If he goes back, he will be a late 1st rounder because of all this talent coming in.

i like it but I don’t think the pacers need flynn either,T.J Ford is indiana’s point guard of the future and secondly I don’t like evans to minnesota because DeRozan is better now and will be a star in the future plus minnesota needs a scorer who can sell tickets

i thinking about changing Flynn and Maynor so be on the look out for that

No. Evans is way better than DeRozan right now. DeRozan could be a bigger star in 4 years. But DeRozan has no jumper to speak of and is a average rebounder.

Evans brings more to the table because he can play PG, he has good dribbling skills and he is the best driver in this draft. He also has a better jumper than derozan right now.

DeRozan = Vince Carter clone ( my projected rookie stats for him- 12 ppg, 4rpg, 3apg)

Evans = McGrady type ( My projected stats – 13 ppg, 5rpg, 4 apg)

what are you talking about? nets got brook lopez at 10th last year

Im sorry but look at this list….

08- Lopez- could be a top 5 C by next season ( but then again, they could had had Randolph)
08- Anderson- not bad

07-Sean Williams- he went before Big Baby, Carl Landry and Dequan Cook

06-Marcus Williams- Cut
06-Josh Boone- Bench man

05-Antoine Wright- could have had Granger and Monta Ellis

04-Victor Khryapa- could have had Kevin Martin

03-Zoran Plannic- Could have had Josh Howard, Travis Outlaw, Perkins, Barbosa, MO williams

In your first mock didn’t you say Jennings can shoot and now you say his shot is a question? Also Griffin a 30/20 guy. That’s not possible unless he’s going to be the greatest player of all time. Overall a good mock though. Enjoyable to get your take on things.

No you are right, i was watching alot of his HS games and like 2 or 3 of his euro game where he lit up. Then, a friend of mine sent me some games where he looked like a bad version of Starbury….not good. I had to do some more HW, and i got the memo : he is not a nba ready shooter.

Mayne 30-20 is alot? But thats my question. I think for 10 years, he could be a 20-10-2(blocks) guy. But can he step it up? Can he develop his game into Karl Malone…Charles Barkley?

Maybe 30-15?

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_mock_drafts/23744/edit

Cant see Hill go 2 though

Hey is you wind up being right I can understand but a lot of your picks did not make sense to me even with your reasoning. Also despite Jenning seemingly me first rep he is a great passer and being in Europe has helped his game. Why would Sacramento take Harden. He can not be a point guard and they have a great shooting guard in Kevin Martin who is too small to play Small forward. Harden is not a good pick unless they trade him for a veteran they need. Knicks will get Curry unless he is taken earlier. Chase has been looking good in workouts but Milwaukee will grab a point guard or a big unless Harden falls.

Hill is really high at 2. You also put Jrue Holiday and James Johnson kinda low. They will go higher than where you put them, garunteed. I think, and QHaynes will agree with me, that Memphis will draft Rubio, but only as trade bait to places like Phoenix and Sacramento. Hill is NOT going to Memphis. They have already expressed that they are not interested in him and they are going to target something different. To be honest, your mock makes little sense EuroBall.

True, I never said Europe did not help his game. Jennings is a me 1st guy and is a great passer

Sacramento should take Harden because Martin is not young. They have the 23rd pick in the 1st round, why not take Harden who could be the 2nd coming of Paul Pierce and Patty Mills ( who before he got hurt he was a mid 1st rounder)? Even if they take Harden, he could help there bench as a 6th man. They could also Trade Martin

The Knicks should not take Curry if they want a PG, im telling you.

Chase would be a solid pick for the Bucks. They are in a bad spot if they want a big man. They should try to trade down. Blair, Mullens, Daye and Lawal are more mid-teens to late 1st type guys. They shouldnt reach at 10. And also, I have them taking a big man in round 2, they know how to develop players ( Redd and Sessions come to mind)

Yea, thats the only reason why i have Rubio there

Kevin Martin can play the 3…he’s 6-7

Rubio nor his agent has said Rubio doesnt want to go to Memphis. That was just an internet rumor.

Come on..he doesnt have to say it…hes a superstar in spain…i would nt wanna go from spain to memphis…

And he doesnt have to live in Memphis. He can live in one of the nicer areas outside of the city

Because you take harden at 4 if Sacramento doesn’t get Rubio there screwed. Kevin Martin can’t play small forward cause he is a Ray Allen Type of player. Can Ray Allen Play small foward? No! Harden is not the seconded coming of Paul Pierce as Paul is bigger and taller then Harden. I do like the Tyreke Evans being a Tracy McGrady type player but does he play off the ball well? Memphis had to make him point guard for him to be efficient. Hill shouldn’t go to wizards because Jamison is a better player then Hill and unless they can get a good young center then why? And then if your trading to get under cap why do you settle for a OK team. I think you should either push for contender or rebuild

He is 6-7 185 pounds.
Isnt Flynn listed at 186 pounds? This mean Flynn can play Sf? Its not just higher. Come on now.

No…. Sacramento could trade Martin and Draft Harden

Martin for Ramon Sessions? That way you get a PG who can be a playmaker.

No they would not be screwed, Rubio is a PG, they could try to get a John Wall or Willie Warren next season.

Evans can play off the ball well, the problem is his jumper. They moved him to PG because they had noone that could bring the ball up.

Jamison is older and still has value. Hill is more of a pure PF. Jamison is a 3 who can play 4, trade him and try to build a new frontcourt.

He’s lanky…so it Prince..give him some time to grow into the position

I agree with you lots. But there defense line with Jamison at 3 would be horrible match ups at Cav’s Magic. Sessions would be a great trade. I do disagree with you though in that Evans playing off the ball is limited cause most playing off the ball is shooting and if you can’t shoot you can’t get to the basket.

I respect everyone’s opponent, and y’all do have some solid points. My Mock Draft is only a prediction of were some players can have a average or good career. Jordan Hill going to Memphis is good for many reasons. First, he’s a power forward with great upside to his Game. Second, he’s the second best power forward on the board and Memphis need a power forward and that’s a position were their team lack. Finally, Jordan Hill is compared to Bosh that’s Good, remember this Bosh was compared to Tim Duncan at the time, Tim was the best power forward in the league, Hill is being compared to Bosh is only a little to expect and I will never past on that if I’m a GM. To me Hill is more Physical than Bosh so look out for him. I strongly agree Ricky Rubio is the second best prospect in the draft. But I can’t see him on Memphis, Sacramento is the prefect fit for him. Ricky need to be in a place where he can adopt to like Arco arena similar to Spain and Europe.

I made some movement up and down and added some guys in there to.

Yea. Evans he could not shoot with a high volume. He was better with the ball because he can create his own shot ( although he had trouble shooting)

Jamison for his price tag and age, you can trade him and get value.

Gerald Henderson be a great fit for New Jersey? I meen he is a slasher and with Harris, Vince and especially the amazing Brook Lopez. But isn’t he only 6-4? if he was 6-8 he would be good fit for them? Idk

I like Henderson at NJ. My only question is can VC play the 3

About Kevin Martin i thought of a great deal for the kings and Suns

Martin, 23rd pick to Phx for Nash and future 1st rounder?

noone post on this im gonna Change up the players orders!!!!!

Now please post and share thoughts..

I love the trade between Sacramento and Memphis but i was wondering who else would be involved in such a trade that I feel for Sacramento is getting ripped off? I also am wondering why you put Jennings at Washington i feel Gilbert needs a center and that would mean a trade to Thunder for James Hardin. I do not think Minnesota needs James Harden they already have Foye and Miller they need a point guard or small forward. I like Demar at Toronto because Toronto will ultimatley lose all its good players just because there in Canada (its the sad truth) so why not do high risk.

The trade would probably be

Rubio, Arthur to Sac for Hill and 23rd pick? Sacramento has all the leverage in the deal.

I thought Jennings would be a good fit for Washington because they need a guy who set up Arenas, Butler and the young guys on the bench. Although he is a ME- first guy, he can be a good passer.

I think they should take Harden because the top 2 PG’s would be off the board (Rubio and Jennings) and Foye is best off the bench. They can get a good PG at 18 (Holiday, Teague or Lawson) and a SF at 28 (Summers, Cappsi) or in round 2.

I said it before, I say it again : They should move The raptors to Kansas City or Seattle

QHaynes, are you a Kings fan?

a knicks fan…why?

Is it about the Trade?

Think about it? If im Sacramento with the 4th, 23rd and 31st picks I can take a PG. Memphis takes Rubio so what? I cant easily take Jennings at 4…trade down and Take Holiday or even take Mills, Teague, Lawson or even Maynor at 23…

The Trade makes since for both teams memphis though will be getting ripped off. I would say they could add Hawes in to sweeten up the deal or somebody but i doubt that will happen. Memphis got stuck with a pick that was higher then what they needed

“Memphis got stuck with a pick that was higher then what they needed”

How does that even make sense?

KD rocks- No way they add Hawes….

Allen- they didnt need a top 3 pick….

you forgot about tyler hansbrough, where is he on the mock?

Allen- yea. hey need Earl Clark, not rubio. Maye they trade down?

i dont think Hansbrough gets drafted……

hansbrough = Mark Madsen 1.5

Earl Clark? For what? To Back up Rudy? The Grizzlies need talent. They need the second most talented player

If you had like the 6 or 7th pick….you could take Clark.

Then trade Conley, Gay and maybe a future 1st for Stoudemire and Tucker.

Then at 27 you could have grab a Patty mills

at 35 take a Toney Douglas or Dionte Christmas.

Just create your own site already

i should right?

thats the next step….

What? Dude Im a grizz fan and your making me sick with your horrible Grizz trades. Which team is better.

Mills/Jaric
Mayo/Douglas
Clark
Amare
Gasol

no trade assets
or

Rubio/Mills
Mayo/Douglas
Gay
Verajae
Gasol

Conley available for trade

You basically want the Grizz to give up Conley, Rubio, Gay, and a first round pick, for Amare, Clark and Tucker, Plus according to you superstars like Amare dont wanna play in Memphis. He would just opt out and leave in 2010 right? So basically instead of Gay, Conley, Rubio and a first round pick we would have Tucker and Clark.

Since your a grizz fan…sorry to tell u this

Conley is a bust in many people’s eyes….

People are questioning Gay’s superstar potential.

I never said Rubio is in the deal…and lets face it…He is NOT coming to Memphis….sorry

But if you took him, your only holding him as trade bait.

Your front Office is cheap too…so it is a possibility.

Thats what a lot of players say…he could be saying this to us

but he may be telling the Grizzles he does not wanna play there.

You never know…

And I didnt say you said Rubio was in the deal. I said its ridiculous to say the Grizzlies would be better off not getting the 2nd pick and drafting Clark at 6th. And then you turned around and suggested trading Conley and Rudy for a player that will opt out after a year.

Well who do you want?

Rubio says he would come here- I believe it when i see it.

Why not speed up the process? when Gay, Mayo, Conley becomes good and FA, there gonna stay??

And whoever says Conley is a bust has no idea what they are talking about. Conley tore stuff up during the last 3 months of the season after Hollins was hired. Hes a young player that is probably about to explode.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3195

those numbers are ok, he has to put it together to make him look good.

he’s been a dissapointment because he was a top 5 pick….he should be

14ppg, 4rpg and 6apg.

this is his prove it season.

He has Gasol, Gay, Mayo…no excuses.

just want to say i like the jennings pick alot and will probably put him there in my next mock draft

thanks man

im here, ask your questions and read my mock

isn’t Conley like 20 years old?

your draft is terrrrrble, godaddy qhayneshorrificmock.com

Hansbrough reminds me of me without a good shot. I was also more athletic but anyways, he is a late first round pick. You don’t have him at all Qhaynes. Come on now, dont hate on him.

deuce4off- Why is my mock terrible? Your a lame…you need to grow up

Charles Barkley-Hansbrough….do u want hasnbrough on your team? I put him in there now

I like Hansbrough for two reasons. One is his ability to score. Two is his ability to get to the foul line. Where do you live QHaynes, NY? I killed the knicks when I was playin them. Dropped 46 on Ewing once.

1st off thats college

he will not get his shot off in the pros.

He got to the foul line because he could outmuscle guys in college, not in the NBA

yOUR NOT cHARLES bARKLEY

You really dont think i’m Charles Barkley. Ask me any question. Holy ^%$ you have got to be ^$#^&*@ kidding me. WOW &*^#^$#

If you were really sir charles, you have said whatever and moved on

so let me ask you this then since you think im stupid- we met before, you know me and my dad whats my real name

you?

you know what? dont answer it…make a excuse please….please dont post here anymore.

someones angry! Calm Down!

are you black or white

why does it matter…im black…just tell me what do u think of my mock

and keep it movin…

Your mock is actually really good. Except 4 TH

why 4th??? sorry i got a little heated…

but tell me why 4th

I meant TH as in Tyler Hansbrough, I know your not too high on him, but I like his potential. Also, we all get heated, its fine man. I think that the gizzlies will pick rubio as trade bait and ship him to the Suns 4 Amare and Dudley.

What do u think his upside is?

You cant do Rubio for Amare and Dudley- money gotta match

i mean that they would use rubio as a piece of the trade, not just him alone

maybe…the suns can also stand pact at 14 and take Flynn or holiday

While I’m skeptical of the Wizards drafting a PG with so much money invested in Arenas, it allows Gil to not have to be a distributor and facilitate the offense. The biggest concerns are how does that play into Flip’s new offense, and can Gil be effective without the ball? I think it could work in theory, but my gut as a Wiz fan tells me that it won’t because Gil’s already transitioning to full health. Transitioning to a new position should only complicate things and make it harder on him.

I liked your last mock better where you had Earl Clark going to the Warriors. I think with all of the guards they have, they need to solidify their frontcourt by adding depth with a guy like Clark or maybe Jordan Hill if he falls.

This draft lacks depth at the PF position, but I really don’t think Lawal will be in the top 10. I think DeJuan Blair will go before he does.

Good questions-

Yea, something tells me they go Hill or Harden. But you know Flip, he doesnt go with the grain. He could look at Jennings and take a chance and move Arenas to the 2. You never know…

I heard GS wants a PG and may look at Curry. They feel like they need a PG to move Ellis to the 2. Do I agree with that? NO. But im not the GS GM

Dont be surprised on Lawal. He could. He is more of a natural PF. I think the Bucks like Potential and they will look for a guy they can grow with this team. I think the Bucks takes a high potential guy and a steal in round 2.

Also, Lawal reminds me of like a Stoudemire…he needs a good year of playing time. He need to work on his free-throws, his shot ( its kinda shaky) and his dribbiling skills. He could be a gem pick.

I updated it!!!!

I really like your mock you’ve done a nice job. I also believe that this guy is not really Charles Barkley. But anyway I think hansbrough will go in the first round. He’s not another mike madsen because be has more heart and a he’ll of alot more toughness. Otherwise I think you mock is really good. Please excuse any typoes I have. I travel a lot and have to use my ipone I post. Keep up the good work.

Hansbrough does not have more heart and toughness….why does everyone hype him up?

He has low potential…he will fall to round 2.

cant agree

Hansbrough does not have more heart and toughness….why does everyone hype him up?

He has low potential…he will fall to round 2.

Man, you have Maynor going first too? Well, I mean first out of the 2nd tier of PG’s that is. What am I missing with this guy? I just don’t think he’s got it. Of course I know that I’m probably wrong, since everyone else likes him, but I just don’t know what to think about him. Why can’t I get a gauge on this guy I wonder.

Yea Maynor could come in right away and be good…think Sam Cassell.

Great mock draft.

Only problems I really have are the Bucks drafting Earl Clark. Milwaukee will take a point a guard no doubt. Sessions is gone, the Bucks won’t resign him. Plus the Bucks just drafted Joe Alexander with their 1st round pick last year to play Small forward.

Also no way the Suns take a PG. They need help now to make a run in the playoffs. They will worry about replacing Nash a couple years from now. I think they need to get younger, qucker, and more athletic at the SG/SF positions.

Eric Maynor isn’t the best 2nd tier PG. If he gets drafted as high as you have him it is purely because a team fell in love with his size and swagger. Maynor is a big PG at 6’3″ plus has a nasty attitude to him which is good.

I think Hansbrough has to go in the 1st round.

Earl Clark could play 3 and 4 in the East. They wont go PG, they will give Session whatever he wants….With no real big men at 10- The bucks take Clark.

The suns will take a PG. Nash is a FA in 2010…they need a replacement. If Flynn, Maynor, Holiday or teague is there….they will take Teague.

Maynor is. I think Flynn is a tier 1 guy. Maynor is the best PG to win right now. Indiana has a small PG so they will look for a PG with size and ability. Maynor reminds me of Sam Cassell. He wont be a top 5 PG in the L. He will just give you 17-20 ppg and 6-9 apg in his prime….

No…Hansbrough would be terrible pick for any team round 1. He is more of a high 2nd rounder

hawks don’t need lawson

Law is a bust and they need a young PG…bibby is over 30 and in 2 years Lawson could be a good replacement.

but do the suns really need a pg when they have dragic and nash for one more year they need a center but is bj mullens a good c