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  • #40942
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    Rotela
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     I believe things are changing for African or African born players in the the US, I hate when African players are always laballed raw, defensive, athletic etc….with the likes of Luol Deng, Kelenna Azubuike, Myck Kabongo etc I am hoping to see more swing men and guards in the league…read more below 

    http://nigerian-basketball.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/NBA

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  • #688337
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    I am not trying to be mean but it appears that a few of the players they are saying are African have been in the states a while. At what point does a person go from being African in American to an African American.

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  • #688338
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    WizardofOz
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    Never knew Igoudala was Nigerian.

    But most African players start playing basketball at a late age (most start playing soccer or track), therefore aren’t really polished. The players w/ African descent that have been in America for awhile are a different story.

    I’m of Nigerian descent btw.

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  • #688346
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    I think the reason they have been labeled as raw, defensive, and athletic is because that’s what most of them have been.  So in that sense I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at.  Guys like Luol Deng have bucked the trend, but it’s still a trend.

    It makes sense considering the opportunity to play in Africa is not like it is in other parts of the world.

    It would be neat to see some of the African national programs get stronger so guys like Hakeem/Serge Ibaka play nationally for their home countries instead of their adopted countries.

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    • #688353
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      monkey23
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       What about Mutombo and Bol?? I don’t think it’s a recent trend – it’s been going on for decades/

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  • #688358
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    sheltwon3
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    Hopefully it eventually changes with a lot of guys pushing basketball in their home countries.  It is different world wide because there are lots of sports available and soccer is big world wide.  Basketball has so many rules and restrictions, I can understand if some of them like soccer where you can be a soccer star and make millions at like 13 like Freddy Adu.

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  • #688361
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    Im Your Father
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    I was sure this post was going to end with… "can’t guard Lebron James."

     

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  • #688365
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    CaptainKushberry
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     Everybody in Nigeria plays Football (Soccer) , basketball is consider a womens sport in a lot of african countries. It is gaining popularity but it isnt at the level that small children have dreams of playing in the NBA. Its pretty funny nobody in Nigeria really cares for Hakeem Olajuwan, they know of him but he isnt a legend like say Jay Jay Akocha (Soccer Player). And every african player memtioned didnt stay there their whole life. Luol Deng grew up in Great Britian and went to Duke. Mych Kybango is from Cananda, Igoudola was born and raised in Springfield, IL. Also Freddy Adu sucks, theres a reason he didnt play for the Ghanaese national team

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    • #688477
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      King Calucha
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       wow wow… Jay Jay Okocha is a fantastic football player. But I get your point =P Olajuwon and others should get more recognition

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  • #688370
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    CaptainKushberry
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     Also the corruption in some African countries does not allow them to excel on the global platform. So many politicains and diplomats get there relatives on national teams its crazy, and the od guys lie about their age to qualify age restritive global events. Nigeria has been banned from national competion because of this.

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  • #688578
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    ENOGSIWONdede

     Azubike is not raw and athletic he is fat and has no game

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  • #688593
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    I am not trying to be mean but it appears that a few of the players they are saying are African have been in the states a while. At what point does a person go from being African in American to an African American.

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    Yeah I hear that. Most of people wouldn’t consider me African but my parents were raised in Africa (dad in Kenya, mom in Uganda) and my older brother was born there as well. I feel the raw but athletic label probably fits so many Africans because of inferior coaching and training in African nations which stunts their devolopment to a  degree. However players like Luol Deng and Azubuike who were raised and developed outside of Africa have more polished games.

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  • #688725
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    ENOGSIWONdede

     Africans cannot play guard or why did Mali lose by 66 points to Canada lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

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  • #688723
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    Rotela
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    Okay So how do you guys explain Hakeem’s game, he was born and raised in Nigeria but his game was both based on skill and athleticm which proves that African players are coachable at every position, to me its all about coaching, when American scouts come to Africa, all they care about are the big men and getting someone with longs arms who can jump and block shots, that was the reason they got Hakeem initially to the States, but he changed his game becuase he did not want to be the stereo-typical African player. Why cant American scouts also try to improve our guards as well, you do know that there are alot of guys in Africa that are between 6ft and 6’5.

     

    @CaptainKuchberry, pleasy stop spreading rumours, dont talk about what you dont know, the American basketball game also has elements of corruption so lets not go there as I will not label Americans in general corrupt just like you have labled Nigerians.

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  • #688822
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    pohani komarac
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    they just don’t have prpoper conditions that’s it….jordan, james, magic and so on have roots from africa…so yeah with proper conditions some countries that have tall athletic population would be basketball powerhose

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  • #689456
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    Rotela
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     Luol Deng started playing ball in Africa.

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