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- Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 4:53pm #40348

SmooveKRYPTParticipantWith teams in the lotto needing point guards for the future of their team & a couple with sketchy situations with their current teams I thought of a few possibilities.
Kyle Lowry to NO for the 10th pick?
NO has been shopping their 10th pick for a guard for a week or 2. They’re expected to bring Gordon back and adding Davis I’m pretty sure they’ll try to pressure teams defensively and push the tempo more on offense, sounds like the perfect spot for Kyle Lowry. He seems to be a perfect fit for Monty Williams coaching style.
Lowry was in the news for saying he couldn’t co-exist with coach McHale a few weeks ago. Houston has Dragic who is a FA but they want to bring back, plus 2 draft picks which they can use to move up or add a Kendall Marshall and another player. If they get the 10 they might be able to get Leonard who would be the perfect big for McHale to groom and develop til he’s ready to contribute at the NBA level or Zeller who’s NBA ready but might not have much more room for growth however neither guy would be guaranteed to be available at 14. Houston would be happy to come out of this draft with a guard and a C (Leonard or Zeller) they’d get rid of the possible negative Lowry’s unhappiness could create and add a bit more cap space for whenever they make their big splash trade(we’ve been waiting for 3 years)Bledsoe to Portland for the 11?
Olshey was adamant about not including him in the CP3 trade, so he obviously saw him as the future PG if Paul didn’t resign long-term. So would it be far fetched for him to trade for him now that he’s the GM in Portland. They’re in need of a point and are open to moving picks. Bledsoe had a strong finish to the end of his playoffs and upped his value for sure. The Clippers however have quite a few guards and some decisions to make on their free agent ones (Billups, Foye, Young) they’ll bring one back for sure and maybe 2 so playing time for Bledsoe is up in the air. Portland is in a sort of rebuild and it could be a good place for him to grow with the Aldridge & Batum combo. It would be a deal I think the Clips take because it puts them in position to get a SG that can shoot the 3 as well as get to the rim so CP3 doesn’t have to create every shot and to solidify their starting lineup (Lamb, Rivers, Ross). They still have Mo to back up/play 6th man for the year, then he comes off the books…following next season they’ll have plenty of money to max both CP and Blake and whichever guy they draft will still be on a rookie contract.Just a couple of my own ideas I want to hear other users thoughts on…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 4:57pm #682592

GrandmamaParticipantKyle Lowry to NO for the 10th pick? No
Bledsoe to Portland for the 11? No
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 5:09pm #682599

SmooveKRYPTParticipant^ who says no?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 5:17pm #682604
mj23mj23besteverParticipanthe wants out of houston and with the tenth pick the rockets would be looking at marshall zeller or leornard which id like too c happen marshall in case they cant resign goran or zeller or leonard too fill the c spot
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 5:21pm #682603

FearTheStacheParticipantIf Bledsoe was the 18th pick in a relatively weak draft, why would he be the 11th pick in a stacked draft? You have a flawed logic.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 5:24pm #682605

SmooveKRYPTParticipantBledsoe played out of position his whole college season and with probably the 2 most talented players in the class. Nobody knew what kind of PG he was or would be. The way he played against SA in the playoffs getting to the rim and finishing at will was the first time he’s got consistent minutes running the show and he definitely raised his value.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 5:45pm #682608
Doug25ParticipantAs a Portland fan, I prefer Lowry to Bledsoe. If the Blazers could trade #11 and change (Babbitt, Smith, etc.) for Lowry and either #14 or #16 that would be great.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 6:18pm #682625

pistonkidParticipantDeron Williams to Dallas.
Nash to Lakers.
Jeremy Lin to Utah.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 6:24pm #682624

GrandmamaParticipantEach team receiving the PG will say no. Lowry isn’t worth the 10th pick, Bledsoe isn’t worth the 11th.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 6:59pm #682634
HotSnotParticipantKyle Lowry, aswell as Bledsoe to a lesser degree, are proven players in the NBA. If I could get either of them for the 10th or 11th pick I’d do it in a heart beat.
Extremely doubtful the Clips part with Bledsoe though. He’s their insurance incase Paul walks, he’s on a cheap contract for another few seasons and he’s an amazing up and coming player who will only get better under Pauls guidance.
Lowry is a different story. Any team that gets him is going to pay through the nose for him on his next contract… which is always annoying if it doesn’t pan out. Lowry’s skills are top notch though and for the 10th pick in just about ANY draft, you have to make that deal…if PG is your weakness.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 7:34pm #682637

apb540ParticipantWhat kind of trade value does everyone think Jrue Holliday has?
To all Jazz fans, would you be willing to give up Favors for Jrue? If not, what big man would you trade?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/16/2012 - 7:43pm #682639

sheltwon3ParticipantI am not sold on the first trade because Jack is not sorry enough for you to trade the number 10 pick for someone marginally better. I think Portland would that second trade and if LAC has Paul locked up than that trade for the 11 pick is not that bad. Bledsoe would be better than more of the point guards that are coming out now and and Portland could use a solid point who can shoot and Felton is not the long term answer. LAC could then add depth or get a shooting guard.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/17/2012 - 3:59am #682692
kzekeParticipantLowry and the 16th for Jack and the 10th maybe
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/17/2012 - 4:43am #682695

JustaFanParticipantI think both teams should pull the trigger on both of these trades, here’s why:
Lowry for 10 works for both teams going forward. NO gets an good and improving young guard to pair in the backcourt with EG and a good 1 for AD to start his career off with also. NO needs help so instead of taking another rookie with 10 and taking a risk on what you get production wise from him, Lowry gives you guaranteed action from day 1. He averaged 14, 6, and 4 last year and he’s looking for a change of scenery anyway. Move Jack back into his backup role where he’s better suited. Lowry, EG, Ariza, AD, Mek and a decent bench, doubt they re-sign Kaman. Houston gets rid of a potentail headache in Lowry and get a good pick in a deep draft to build towards the future. They should wise up and trade 14 and 16 to GS for 7 and the Rockets could grab Leonard at 7 and the BPA at 10 with the Hornets pick. Re-sign Dragic and keep it moving forward with nice developing roster of young talent.
Bledsoe for 11 works for both teams also. Bledsoe doesn’t get stuck behind CP3 for the next few years and gets a shot in Portland. Portland also gets a good young improving guard to help lead the team into the future and pair with LA an Batum. Take Beal at 6 and now you have a nice young backcourt to grow together. Move Matthews into the 6th man role left by Crawford or let Beal play behind him until he’s ready to takeover. Batum, LA and Hickson upfront and with picks 40 and 41 possibly find some rotation guys and keep it moving. I like this but this could be kind of funky for the Clippers. Mo has a player option and Chauncey, Nick and Randy are all unrestricted. So that backcourt could go from crowded to empty quick, especially if you give up the only other guard on the books. With that said The Clippers could use the 11th pick to grab either of the 4 guards available. They could have their choice of Lamb, Rivers, Waiters or Ross to groom depending on who Toronto grabs at 8. If Mo doesn’t opt out sign back some of the vets to help the rookie along and continue going.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/17/2012 - 5:04am #682699
redone1ParticipantI like the Bledsoe to Portland trade. But if im the clippers I would be pushing for the 6th pick instead of the 11th (Partly because you know how much Olshey covets Bledsoe). And to the guy who said why would you trade the 11th pick (in a strong draft) for the 18th pick in a weeker one. That logic makes no sence. Bledsoe has shown people he has serious ability and could be a very good PG if given an expanded role. If you think he is the point guard of your future I would trade that for the 6th pick and say someone like a Harrison Barnes who is good, but id rather have bledsoe if I was the Blazers
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/17/2012 - 5:33am #682701
Game760ParticipantIf I’m the Clippers no way do I trade for the 11th pick.They have to push for the 6th and only of somehow
Beal is there.Anyone that thinks that Bledsoe isn’t worth it is crazy.He’s a proven starting caliber PG and all these draft picks have the mystery of being busts or never living up to their potential.Really how many draft picks become starters???
Also I would also consult with CP3 and only move Bledsoe if I had an assurance that he wants to be a Clipper.0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/17/2012 - 10:11am #682775

JustaFanParticipantI like the trade with Bledsoe for 6 or 11 but I can’t see the Blazers giving up 6 in this draft for Bledsoe. I know Olshey loves him and that is the only reason it probably has legs and there’s no guarantee he’d make the deal either. As much I like Bledsoe and as good as I think he will and could be, granted he’s had some good games and balled in the 2012 playoffs. EB is a year off an injury and only played sparingly when healthy and he still has a ton of growing to do also. The fact that there’s not a big difference in talent between 2 and 7 in this draft they may be hesistant to give up 6 for Bledsoe. It’s almost like giving up the number 2 pick for him which I can’t see them doing, 11 just seems more suitable. The only way the Clippers should make this trade is if they are NO DOUBTS whatsoever about CP re-signing. If they can’t him signed long term I wouldn’t dare make this trade. I’ve always thought there was major gamble involved when trading for picks. Regardless of how good it may look on paper it may not pan out and you could be giving up Gold for Fool’s Gold, Vice Versa of even break even. That’s just the nature of the beast.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/17/2012 - 1:43pm #682866

apb540ParticipantJust give me minuses and don’t answer my question.
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