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  • #39073
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    ProudGrandpa
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    West has been, in my opinion, the Pacers’ best player in the playoffs and the way he’s playing, I would definitely take him over Bosh for the remainder of the series.

    Let’s crunch the playoff numbers:

    Bosh- 15PPG 7.2RPG 0.8BPG .510FG% .81FT% Best Game-probably his 21pointer in Game 4

    West- 15.8PPG 9.6RPG 1.2SPG 0.8BPG ,438FG% (many of these are mid-rnage jumpers) .83FT% Best Game-26 and 12 in Game 2

    Who would you guys prefer for the rest of the playoffs and who will get the best of this matchup?

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  • #669303
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    Nbanflguy
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    I would rather have 15 ppg and 7.2 rpg on 51% shooting over 15.8 ppg 9.6 rpg on 43% shooting.

    Especially from a 3rd option

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  • #669310
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    aamir543
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     Look, West is the third option behind Granger and Hibbert, Bosh is the third option behind Lebron and James, a huge difference.

    Bosh is not a max guy but he’s much better than we think, on his own team with a good supporting cast, that team is a 6th seed and he scores 22 a game. I know he’s not hte focal point of the Heat’s offense, but It frustrates the hell out of me that he is NEVER in the post. And I repeat NEVER. I remember watching a couple games when he played with Toronto and he was a pretty nice low post guy.

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  • #669306
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    One thing West offers is plyoff experience that Bosh does not have, aside from last season, as well as a solid veteran presence.  He is likely to be more consistent than Bosh in high pressure situations because of his experience

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  • #669307
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    NiceWithTheRock
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    Yeah the Pacers have to be way more efficient if  they’re going to stand a chance. No one had a particularly good overall series. They really beat Orlando with their depth. They can use that to their advantage against the Heat to but it won’t matter unless they’re shooting well and executing.

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  • #669308
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    The way he’s playing?  He’s playing terribly!  

    43% while being defended by either Ryan Anderson or Earl Clark?  Really, is that it?    Look at Bosh’s numbers, he was being guarded by Tyson Chandler for nearly the entire series.  Yes, the Defensive Player of the Year.

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  • #669309
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    NiceWithTheRock
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    PG, even though D West has been in the playoffs more Bosh went to the grandest stage and experienced the pressure of the NBA Finals. West can’t say that.

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  • #669311
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    raybeas
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    If Miami had West and the Pacers had Bosh, this would be a four game series. I don’t think Bosh can cover West in the paint. Also, I don’t think Bosh will score much in the post v West. He may score on the 15-20ft jumper. I think the Pacers will have a big advantage on Miami inside.

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  • #669312
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    West offers playoff experience?  

    Bosh went to the NBA Finals!  Hell, Bosh led his team to the playoffs twice as the 1st option.  

    Can’t say either of those for West.  Not to mention, Bosh has played 37 playoff games while West played 29.

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  • #669313
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    Nbanflguy
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    Bosh is not a max guy but he’s much better than we think

    Very true. He is a very good player, but gets treated like a joke by fans.

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  • #669315
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    ProudGrandpa
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    Bosh has only 32 games and 21 were in one year.  The majority of those were in the first two rounds. 

    Aamir-During the regular season, West had the same PPG as Hibbert in less minutes, took more field goals per game, and took 50 more shots than Hibbert.  He was just as much the #2 option as anyone.

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  • #669316
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    So you just count out the experience he got last season why?

    Because he played with superstars?  Should we count out when David West played with Chris Paul?

    Does he not remember what it was like to play last season?  Does Bosh have a bad memory?  I just don’t understand how last year’s experience doesn’t count, I honestly don’t.  Did he not play the entire playoffs last season?

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  • #669320
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    aamir543
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    Gramps, you could argue West was a 2nd option, yes, but you could just as easily argue he was a 4th option, I won’t go into excrutiating detail, but West shoots at 49% for the season and Hibert 50%, essentially the same, I believe we could end this by saying that West, Hibbert, and George are 2a, b and c, but Collison isn’t far behind at 10.5 ppg, with three more guys at 9, the Pacers don’t do it with 3 guys, they have 7 guys scoring at least 9 ppg.

    I will bring up that West is still recovering from a knee injury, but when you disect their games, at this point with West’s knee and Bosh’s teamates, they are both basically jumpshooters and get the garbage baskets, with the deal breaker being Bosh’s speed and athleticism, which is why he scores 33% more points than West.

    West is a fine player in his own right for 6 years he was good for at least 17 and 8, and most of those years was around 19 ppg, he did have CP3, but he still had a phenomenal post game, a really nice player.

    Your arguement would have always been shot down, because Bosh is better than West, but you might’ve gotten some love last year right before his ACL injury, both West and Bosh’s production was similar, and the Hornets were unexpectedly in the playoff race, and Bosh was the subject of heavy scrutiny, but the fact of the matter is that Bosh has a very nice midrange game and would be much better and could help the Heat much more if they played him the mid-post area rather than just have him at the foul line as a jump shooter, although that is one fragment of their offense that I like, but they overuse it a lot, that’s all Bosh does now.

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  • #669340
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    careful
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     bosh may be one of the most underrated players in the league…he averaged 18 and 8 on 49% shooting behind the MVP and Dwyane Wade

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  • #669368
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    invalid
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     i never liked bosh that much but to put west over him.. a big no.. west is good but not better than bosh imo. they’re on different level. you’ve compared stats just 1 playoff series. maybe west is as or morethan valuable to pacers as bosh is to heat but he’s not the better player. if bosh goes to pacers im almost certain that he will be the best player there. so i’d take bosh even if west would put up better stats

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  • #669392
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    ProudGrandpa
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    How many of you that are saying West is just an aging kinda-good PF actually watched him play in the playoffs and the end of the regular season?  He is tearing it up.

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  • #669397
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    aamir543
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     Sorry Gramps but for a big man 43% shooting isn’t exactly "tearing it up".

     

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  • #669398
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    aamir543
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    But I’ll give you this one, over the last 6 games of the regular season he averaged 20 and 8 in 28 minutes per game on 54% shooting, but that’s only 6 games. I actually expect West’s stats to go up a bit next season, considering he was slightly hindered by a knee injury, but I don’t think West brings anything that Bosh doesn’t, and he has had a couple good games this post-season, but I’m sorry, you can’t argue West over Bosh, the numbers just don’t support your arguement.

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  • #669411
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    "Sorry Gramps but for a big man 43% shooting isn’t exactly ‘tearing it up’."

    Especially when being guarded by Ryan Anderson and Earl Clark.

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