National POY

Robinson has him in points and rebounds, but I think Davis is much more valuable. If Davis wasn’t on such a powerhouse, he would probably be getting 18ppg and 12rpg. But 66% from the field, 4.8 blocks and only .9 turnovers is dominant. I think we can’t undervalue that teams can not even enter the paint when Davis is in. And when Davis is on the bench, the other team ALWAYS seems to catch up to Kentucky.

 If Davis was on a worse team he would have more turnovers, worse FG% and probably less blocks too. 

I don’t know, I’d still give it to T-Rob, the guy is the absolute clear-cut leader on a great team, he creates his offense for himself, hence his lower FG%. Defences can double-team Robinson and he has to play through it. If you double-team Davis – Teague, Lamb, Giltchrist or Terrence Jones will really make you pay. 

There is actually a possibility Davis wouldn’t score much more on a worse team. He is the clear-cut defensive POY, can’t take that away though

 Yeah but Davis’ % and turnovers still would be better then Robinsons and he would easily get more points, steals, assists, and blocks.  The only thing Robinson does better then Davis right now is rebound, and he don’t even do that too much better.

Anthony Davis is POY and he’s about to start running away with it.  If you saw his game against Vanderbuilt you know what I mean.  Davis has more talent then people realize right now, but they’ll see soon enough.

I have to go with Trob for a few different reasons and I am being objective about this even as a Ku fan. The Big 12 is a bit better conference so he has played against better competition, including owning Perry Jones in their match up. If you take Trob off Kansas, they might even have trouble making the tourny. He is absolutley the focus of Ku’s offense and what he is putting up numbers wise is against double and triple teams. Defensivly Ku is so short on the bench (a Loyla transfer and a walk on back him up) that he can be agressive or take as many chances as Davis can.

Look at the preseason rankings Trob has carried his squad to a monster jump in the rankings.

All this being said I do think Davis is a very close 2nd will be the better pro, number 1 pick and should win National Defensive Player of the year.

Robinson. Davis is far from being a leader of his team, MKG just through watching warmups for Kentucky struck me as a definite leader of the team, teammates Always defer to him. Robinson has the same effect, and he is putting up the scoring numbers to go along with decent defensive stats. You have to go all the way back to Ewing in 1985 for the last (and only) POY to average 14ppg. Sorry Davis, you’re no Ewing. I know it’s not all scoring but the last player to average less than 20ppg and win POY was Shane Battier in 2001, and he averaged 19.9… Robinson, Denmon (18ppg carries missouri down the stretch, over 40% 3p), Barnes (go-to guy on NC, what more do you need to know), Johnson-Odom (stikes me as the jameer nelson this year), Sullinger (a beast and undisputed go to guy for a very good ohio state team, plays with real talented players and is easily top dog and lets it be known). Legit leaders of top ten teams. I couldn’t on my conscience put a freshman who plays a defensive supporting role above them, no matter how much "potential to be awesome on the offensive end" he’s shown… I know it may not be a popular opinion, but it’s just my view on it. 

 Man Thomas Robinson is a great player, heard the other day alot of ppl depending on him after the death of his mother, and he is having a break out year.

But with that being said Davis is NPOY, he does so much on the floor and is a HUGE game changer at the college level, he has things that he really is going to have to work on at the next level, but far as college goes, this year 2011-12 year, he is the best player in the country, and it doesn’t hurt he plays for the best team as well.

To me, Kentucky clearly has a different talent level overall than Kansas. Anthony Davis has been fantastic and he is definitely in the conversation, but I still feel like Robinson has been more of the MVP type player on a game in game out basis. Let’s put it this way, they are incredibly valuable to both of there teams.

I just feel Robinson has more of what you look for in a player of the year. I feel that Kentucky is the much more talented team, which should take little away from Davis if he were the hands down best player in the country. Truly, I think he may be the best prospect in the country, but Robinson has been the best player. I truly believe that while Davis is excellent, his teammates have benefited him a great deal in putting up his insane numbers. Much more so than Robinson, who truly carries a greater burden on both ends of the court.

Kentucky has been such an incredible team and Davis has been there center piece. He has been a complete force and is deserving of many awards. But, I think Thomas Robinson is the better college basketball player this season. If they were to match-up again, it would be very interesting, because it was neck and neck the first time with team talent being the factor in Kentucky’s favor. I still feel that Kansas surpassed my expectations and that Robinson was the major reason behind that. Davis was even better than expected, but Robinson just feels more like a national player of the year to me and I think he was even more valuable to Kansas than Davis was to Kentucky.

 It’s just crazy how a player that grew 8,9,10 inches or whatever it was in a year, 2nd year playing post,limited offensive abilities(due to growth spurt) and basically playing off all instincts and talent is in the run for NPOY.

Big ups to Ant Davis.

T-Rob for me… take him off Kansas, they don’t even make the tournament…

Davis deserves it too don’t get me wrong but I believe the talent level of Kentucky compared to Kansas and Robinson’s ability to carry Kansas into the NCAA’s will be what wins him the award… 

 Oh god not another thread overhyping Anthony Davis.

All Robinson does better is rebound? He scores more, and theres a reason for that. Don’t just look at FG%. Tyson Chandler shoots 70%, that doesn’t mean hes better than Lebron James. But i forgot, ANTHONY DAVIS BLOCKS SHOTS. THATS ALL THAT MATTERS. 

 If Anthony Davis wasnt such a beast on the defensive end he wouldnt be in the npoy discussion. He is having a goood year but i think yes getting more attention because we all thought Barnes,Sullinger,Jones III and etc. were going to put up insane numbers this year when they decided to stay. But national player of the year got to go to Thomas Robinson. His impact on his team is much greater and he producing more under more pressure to do so than Davis. Kansas is a tourney team if u take on robinson, but kentucky is, likely still a top 5 or top 10 team without him.

This race could go down to the wire.  Do they pick the National Player of the Year after the NCAA tournament?  I can really see arguments for both.  It would be easy if there was another award for National Defensive Player of the Year.  Then you give Thomas Robinson the POY award and Davis the DPOY award as a sort of split decision.  

If the NCAA wants to reward leadership, guys not being one-and-dones and being prototype student athletes then they will go with Thomas Robinson. 

I think that the conference tournaments and the NCAA tournament will give us a better idea of who the National Player of the Year will be. 

 Regardless of if Sullinger,Jones,Barnes were putting up good numbers or not, Ant Davis would still be at the top of the list with whoever for NPOY, Kentucky is #1 because of him, MKG has he say to, but Ant Davis is setting records on the defensive end, his prensence down low makes alot of teams think twice about going down there, and not to mention the shots that players have to readjust because of his presence.

14pts,10 boards, 5 blocks per game, for the #1 team in the country, shooting 65% from the field, and also gets 1.5 steals a game.

Doesn’t matter who would have broke out this year, Ant Davis would be right up there with anybody, I think he will win it, and if UK wins it all, he hands down will win it, he is the biggest game changer in college basketball easily.

Once again this is not a Tony Mitchell stat line where he’s beating up on the smaller teams(No knock on him, because I know he was highly regarded coming out of HS). But Ant Davis is in the SEC, and has alos put up good numbers against teams outside of their conference who are very good(Kansas,UNC,Louisville who at the time was rated #4 in the country.

Robinson because he doesn’t have a uni-brow…

Ant Davis haunts you every since that game winning block he had on Henson huh? 

Lets remember that we’re talking about the college baskeball player of the year here and not who has the most nba potential so I’m going to have to give the award this year to Mr. Thomas Robinson not because he is raising  his lil sister  and not because of all the other trial and tribulations hes had to go thru to get to this point but for the mere fact that he he just a lil more valuable to the jay hawks then Mr. Unibro is to the wildcats not to take anything away from Mr. Davis because he is extremly valuable to kentucky but if you take Trob from kansas they may not even be a top 25 team let alone Big 12 champs and fighting for a #1 seed while If you take away Anthony Davis from Kentucky they may not be 29-1 but they sure would still be a top 10 team but just as well as a #1 seed because of all the other talent they hacwe on their team they have a Mcdonalds all american that doesnt get 15 min a game but that same player could b a starter or the 1st man off of Kansa’s bench!

draymond green.  you want to talk about a team that relies on one guy.  he’s got the spartans hovering around the top 10 all year.  outside of him is….keith appling, maybe.  t-rob at least has tyshawn taylor and jeff withey (of late).  green’s numbers are pretty nice too.  15.6 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.6 apg.  plus, the ncaa loves to give the award out to seniors.   

This isn’t a whose most valuable to their team award!  It’s the National Player of The Year!  You guys are going to seriously sit here and tell me that Robinson has been more dominant this year then Anthony Davis?  I already know it’s not true so there no reason to even argue.

These guys played head to head too and what happened?  Robinson was clearly outclassed by Davis.  It was only Davis’ 2nd game in college and he had 7 blocks and 14 points against Kansas going 6-8.  Thomas Robinson fouled out.  Let me repeat.  Thomas Robinson fouled out when he played against Davis and had one of his worst games of the year going 5-12 for 11 points and 12 rebounds.  So how is Robinson better or more deserving again?

And Kansas’ schedule isn’t really harder then Kentucky’s.  Yes Kansas has to play Mizzou and Baylor twice but Kentucky plays high profile games too because they’re Kentucky and they’re unbeaten against teams ranked in the top 10.

And just because MKG flies around the court like a maniac doesn’t mean he’s more important to KU then Davis.  Davis leads the team in points, rebounds, steals, and blocks…so how is MKG more valuable?

 Robinson was clearly outclassed by Davis?  Davis guarded and was guarded by Jeff Withey.  It wasn’t a head to head matchup, Robinson spent most of his time guarding Terrance Jones and vice versa.  That wasn’t Robinson’s best game, but it was the 2nd game of the year for both teams and he still out rebounded everyone on the court that day in only 27 minutes.  

Both Davis and Robinson are playing considerably better than they were November 15, I don’t think too much can be put in that game, especially, since they actually didn’t match up head to head against each other.

 @Mr. 19134. How is NPOY not almost equivalent to most valuable player? If you aren’t the most valuable player for your team how can you justify being voted the National Playor of the Year…. That would be silly.. 

 It’s not the "Who’s the most talented" Award…

 No National Player of the Year award is award too the most dominant player in college basketball which is Anthony Davis, dudes getting 5 bpg on the number one defense in the country.  He completely owns the paint on defense.  On offense his efficiency is thru the roof.  Not only is he shooting 65% while leading his team in points but he’s not even getting a turnover per game.  Robinson get’s 3 turnovers a game.

Davis is more efficient on offense and is a hands down better defender.  So what is the argument for Robinson again?  I don’t care if you take him off Kansas and yadi yadi yah….That don’t matter.  If you put Davis on Kansas they’re probably ranked in the top 3.  

I said it wasn’t a most valuable player to their team award.  Meaning Robinson is more valuable to Kansas then Davis is to Kentucky.  I don’t know how you would measure that or why it would matter, or that matters is what you see, who is the most dominant player.  Davis could win it just by his dominance on defense alone.

 Well, to be honest.  I feel both players are incredibly talented and effective basketball players and although I tend to lean towards Robinson, if Davis were to get it, I would be fine with it because of the phenominal season he’s had.  I would take Davis with the #1 pick this season, hands down.

The arguement for Robinson is that he scores more and rebounds more.  Robinson is the guy KU runs their offense through, they go to the post and swing the ball around the perimeter for shots and drive opportunities.  All provided by the double and triple teams Robinson commands.  I’m not saying this is an excuse as to why he shoots a lower percentage ( still 54%) and turns the ball over more, but it is just a reason why.

Robinson is averaging 12 rebounds per game, and is hands down the best defensive rebounder in the nation.  He averages 18 points per game.  Those are two very impressive stats paired with Robinson’s superior passing ability, especially from the double teams he commands.  Again, I’m not saying Thomas by a landslide, but it’s not like people are idiots for bringing him into the conversation.

These two young guys are having the two best seasons in the NCAA this year, IMO.  Either one would be deserving, but I think Robinson has earned the right to be in the conversation.

 i would have a problem if they give it to davis…

Trob deserves this way more mainly because… "Robinson is the guy KU runs their offense through"

this is been said so many times but if you take davis outta UK they’d be a top team. if you take Trob outta KU they would struggle hard! 

 No doubt, future scout.  Robinson deserves a lot of credit for KU’s success.  No one thought KU would have spent as much time in the top 6 or 7 as they have this year.  A lot of that is because Robinson.  Taylor is extremely inconsistant and is a very shakey #2 option, but Robinson has been a model of consistancy for a team that needed it.

You take Robinson off KU and they wouldn’t be a top 25 team.

Still, Davis blocks 5 shots a game and almost averages a double double.  Thats’ pretty legit, I lean towards Robinson, but I can understand the Davis arguement.  I think both are very close and deserving.