What You Think the 2009 Draft Prospects NBA Comparisons Should Be

I’d disagree with alot of this list. Like most of it.

T. Evans is nothing like Jamal Crawford

Johnny Flynn is not like Deron Williams

rubio/andre miller from philly or marko jaric brandon jennings tony parker/ rondo johnny flynn/tony parker/mo williams blake griffin/david lee/Emeka okafor james harden/John Salmons/Delonte West Hasheem Thabeet/shawn bradley tyreke evans/Andre Iguodala/R. Foye Demar Derozen/rudy gay/Gerald Wallace Earl Clark/Villanueva/al Harrington Stephen Curry/eddie house/ben gordon

Blake Griffin – Carlos Boozer/Shawn Kemp
Ricky Rubio – Steve Nash/Pete Maravich
Hasheem Thabeet – Samuel Dalembert/Dikembe Mutombo
Jordan Hil – Antonio McDyess
James Harden – Brandon Roy
Brandon Jennings – Sebastian Telfair/ Kenny Anderson
Demar Derozen – Gerald Green/Vince Carter
Earl Clark – Danny Granger
Gerald Henderson – Dahntay Jones
Johnny Flynn – Damon Stoudamire
Wayne Ellington – Daquean Cook
Chase Budinger – Brent Barry(early days)
James Johnson – Ryan Gomes
Eric Maynor – Steve Blake
Ty Lawson – Raymond Felton/T.J Ford
Stephen Curry – Ben Gordon/Mike Bibby
Tyreke Evans – Larry Hughes/Jamal Crawford
Patrick Patterson – Paul Millsap
Jeff Teague – Monta Ellis
BJ Mullens – Patrick O’Bryant/Chris Kaman
DeJuan Blair – Paul Millsap
Patrick Mills – Earl Boykins
Gani Lawal – Chris Wilcox
Sam Young – James Posey(better O, less D)
Terrence Williams – Andre Iguodala(less O)
Omri Casspi – Bostjan Nachbar
Damion James – Darius Miles(more polish)
Tyler Hansherough – Udonis Haslem
DaJuan Summers – Jeff Green
Jeff Pendergraph – Darius Songaila

DaJuan Summers has Tim Thomas written all over him. I would be shocked if he is as good as Jeff Green. Green works his tail off and Summers does not

How can you compare Jonny Flynn to Deron Williams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny Flynn is more athletic than Chris Paul????

If that was even slightly true, Johnny Flynn would be the #2 pick in the draft guaranteed.

But he’s not.

Jonny Flynn should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Paul or D-Will. Chris Paul is a ridiculous athlete, much more athletic than Flynn.

Youtube is not how you measure athleticism. Please move on to slightly less absurd comments.
Jonny Flynn should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Paul or D-Will.

If only dunks were the measure of athleticism and NBA success….

James White, Never Forget.

Thats about right. Maybe DJ Augustin?

When will people on this board realize jumping is not the part of being athletic. Both Flynn and CP3 are really good athlete’s and so is Dwill. I don’t believe Flynn will be as good as either of them but I think he will be a solid pro. To much comparing ppl not everybody is like somebody else

we’ve got some pretty good debate already going on this topic. check it out
http://www.nbadraft.net/node/5266

He’s just like a Tyson Chandler.

Gerald henderson is going to be like a kind of like Batum

He is going to end up like Ryan Anderson

Don’t compare ppl because of the color of there skin. Anderson can’t jump like Budinger and can’t handle at all. Both can’t defend and are from a pac-10 school so I guess they are some similarties. Anderson almost has a set shot

I would say that Earl Clark is more like Lamar Odom than Danny Granger

johnny flynn next mo williams

Jason Terry…best case.

Gerald Henderson– Jason Richardson
Earl Clark — Odom is pretty good
James Johnson may be like Granger but I have not seen enough of him to say that.

When I watch Rubio play I see Nash without the shooting ability, which is an inferior player. While Rubio’s point guard skills are ELITE, his lack of an outside shot is going to really hurt him in the NBA. Defenders are going to give him room, and thus make it far more difficult for him to penetrate. Also I’m not sure his defense will be on the same level as in Europe, the NBA athletes are going to make Rubio’s game look a little slower.

I think Andre Miller (when he was coming out of Utah, not the slow version we see now) is a far better comp than Nash, Clyde, or Pistol Pete. All of those guys could be deadly shooting the ball as well as penetrating, and Rubio lacks that skill.

Also maybe Jason Williams (white chocolate).

Blake Griffin:Amare Stoudamire
Ricky Rubio:Pistol Pete
Hasheem Thabeet:Dalembert
Jordan Hill: Better Rebounding/Worse Scoring LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden:Less Explosive/Stronger Ginobli
Demar DeRozan:Shorter Josh Smith
Earl Clark:Ryan Gomes
Gerald Henderson: Less Range/More Athletic Brandon Rush
Johnny Flynn: Poor man’s Chris Paul, or a weaker, quicker Baron Davis
Ty Lawson: Raymond Felton

flynn is more like derrick rose, and henderson is like richard jefferson

If Flynn is anything like Rose he should be a top 10 pick..

How is Flynn like Rose lololol? Please explain…He’s like Dee Brown (Illinois) with more athleticism and swagger.

He is not a cross between Devin Harris, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and Derrick Rose.
This is why we these NBA player comparisons don’t mean anything. Flynn could end up like anybody from Acie Law to Jason Terry…but the probability that he will end up anything like those top 4 guys is about 1 out of 1,000,000.

Curtis Jerrells= Derrick Fisher, Van Exal

Kevin Rogers=More athletic Zach Randolph

What do you think?

I took the players from my mock draft order I’m a youngin, so I tried to compare to players I only know as opposed to people who compare these prospects to players they may have never seen play:

Blake Griffin – Shawn Kemp/David Lee

Ricky Rubio – Andre Miller/Manu Ginobli

James Harden – John Salmons/Poor man Brandon Roy

Hasheem Thabeet – Samuel Dalembert Offense/Brook Lopez Defense and Rebounding

Brandon Jennings – Russell Westbrook/Rafer Alston

Jordan Hill – The current Jermaine O’Neil/Ronny Turiaf

Earl Clark – Marvin Williams/Shawne Williams

Stephen Curry – Less explosive Devin Harris/Daniel Gibson

Demar DeRozan – Trevor Ariza/Dorell Wright

Craig Brackins – Charlie Villanueva/Channing Frye

Tyreke Evans – Poor Man Joe Johnson/Ronnie Brewer

Chase Budinger – Rudy Fernandez

James Johnson – Wilson Chandler

Jonny Flynn – Aaron Brooks

Ty Lawson – More consistent shooting Raymond Felton

Terrence Williams – Ricky Davis/ Poor Man Andre Iguodala

Jeff Teague – Jason Terry

Gerald Henderson – Marquis Daniels/ Fred Jones

Eric Maynor – Ramon Sessions

DeJuan Blair – Craig Smith Offense/Paul Millsap Defense and Rebounding

Gani Lawal – Jason Maxiell

Wayne Ellington – Courtney Lee

Patrick Mills – J.J. Barea

Tyler Hansbrough – Carl Landry

Sam Young – Joey Graham/Bill Walker

Damion James – James Singleton/ Poor Man Gerald Wallace

DaJuan Summers – Al Harrington/ Tim Thomas

BJ Mullens – Darko Milicic with Chris Andersen athleticism

Austin Daye – Jared Jefferies/Ryan Anderson

Dante Cunningham – Undersized version of Joe Smith/Leon Powe

blake griffin:carlos boozer with lebron’s athleticism
rubio:nash/calderon
t-will:andre iguodala
jennings:iverson (from 96-2006)
chase budinger:rudy fernandez
johnny flynn:stephon marbury
tyreke evans:tracy mcgrady
jeff teague:gilbert arenas
jordan hill:jermaine o’neal
bj mullens:chris anderson
aj abrams:smaller aaron brooks
earl clark:boris diaw meets jeff green
austin daye: homeless mans chris bosh lol
demar derozan:vince carter
stephen curry:nash/less explosive arenas/bibby lol

i gotta piggyback off of what WHY said. hopefully you dont all hate me for this. i dont understand why everyone is comparing these draftees to NBA all stars. lets be realistic. do we really think Rubio is gonna be nash/maravich? a legend of the game and a 2-time MVP. seriously? even T. Williams to Iguodala. Iggy is the marquee player/go-to-guy on an NBA playoff team. T-Will is a senior projected to go late 1st. there’s a reason for that. jordan hill to Jermaine O’neal. JO is a multiple all star who’s been a 20-10 guy a few times. does hill really have that in him? jennings to iverson? iverson’s scoring average is among the top 5 all-time. johnny flynn to d. will and d. harris? come on fellas! two of the top points in the league. both 6’3. lets go! james harden to The Truth and B. Roy? lofty expectations, dont you think? tyreke evans to t-mac! i wont even touch that one. that said, i really like the lists of jleung1 and alexboii. here’s what i got. please call me out where necessary.

Griffin=Stoudemire/Boozer(size mostly)
Rubio=Calderon
Thabeet=Shawn Bradley (lol) i think, like Bradley, he’s gonna get drafted too high, block some shots, & get dunked on a lot
Harden=Mitch Richmond/Ginobili
Hill=Brian Grant/Drew Gooden
Jennings=Kenny Anderson/Starbury
Derozan=Stackhouse
Lawson=Jameer Nelson
Evans= Rodney Stuckey
Clark=Odom/Marvin Williams
Blair=Danny Fortson/Sweetney
Ellington=Anthony Peeler
Henderson-Dahntay Jones/J. Rich
Curry= Steve Kerr/J. Pargo
T. Williams=Ronnie Brewer
Summers=Butler/T. Thomas
Brackins=Charlie V
Maynor=Dooling
Flynn=Mo Williams
Teague=Ellis/Harris
Budinger=Brent Barry/Joe Alexander
Hansbrough=Madsen/Cardinal
J. Johnson=J. Green/Granger
Sam Young=Joey Graham

Blake Griffin – Kris Humphries
Ricky Rubio – A taller Brevin Knight
Hasheem Thabeet – Sene
Jordan Hil – Chris Wilcox
James Harden – Devin Brown
Brandon Jennings – Lou Williams
Demar Derozen – James White
Earl Clark – Amir Johnson
Gerald Henderson – Damien Wilkins
Johnny Flynn – Earl Boykins
Wayne Ellington – A taller Boobie Gibson
Chase Budinger – Rasual Butler
James Johnson – Ryan Gomes
Eric Maynor – Sean Livingston
Ty Lawson – Kyle Lowry
Stephen Curry – Eddie House
Tyreke Evans – Stephen Jackson
Patrick Patterson – Melvin Ely
Jeff Teague – Mike James
BJ Mullens – Jake Voshkul
DeJuan Blair – Sean May
Patrick Mills – Dee Brown
Gani Lawal – Chuck Hayes
Sam Young – Ima Udoka
Terrence Williams – LeBron James
Damion James – Dorell Wright
Tyler Hansberough – Ron Artest
DaJuan Summers – Luke Walton
Jeff Pendergraph – Hilton Armstrong

The one that killed me the most was Hansborough being compared to Ron Artest. What do they have in common? Both 6’8″? That’s the only thing I can think of lol.

Williams has the same sort of body, same court vision, same passing ability, same atheltic ability and same question mark over his shooting as LeBron did when he came into the league. The only difference is that LeBron came in as a high school kid and Williams as a senior (he is a young senior though). Other than that LeBron can create his own shot better than Williams but there are a lot of similarites.

Hansborough and Artest are both blue collar, lunch pale type players who use their physicality to impose their will on a game. They aren’t flashy and they aren’t refined but they are both effective at what they do and they know thier limitations.

My comparisons are realistic – unlike the idiot’s who started this thread who seems to think that every person in this draft is either a potential all star or he/she puts an N/A next to them because he/she has never heard of them or hasn’t even seen them play.

Idiot. Why waste peoples time?

I actually don’t disagree with your T-Will and LeBron comparison, it’s just that Ron Artest and Hansborough play NOTHING alike. If I could start one of those two circle diagrams you would get my point better, but I can’t, so i’ll do it like this…..

Ron Artest- SG-SF…….Complete lock-down defender……..Plays primarily on the perimeter……..Has 3 point range……Doesn’t always have his head in the game.

Tyler Hansborough- PF……..Defensive liability on the next level……..Bangs down low, but has no post moves other than throwing up some ugly hook shot………Has range out to 16-18 feet…….Brings high energy to every game

What makes Artest different is that he has the physicality, but has a great skill set to go along with it. When you compare guys, they have to have comparable skills lol.

Yeah, Hansbrough and Artest are literally NOTHING alike. Super athletic head-case who’s a lock-down perimiter defender vs. scrappy forward with high energy and a decent jump-shoot… yeah, those two guys are exactly alike….

I do like the Earl Clark – Lamar Odom comparison.

One comparison that I haven’t much seen is Stephen Curry – Rip Hamilton (if you were to subtract 3-4 inches).

artest is not super athletic by any stretch, but the comparison is ridiculous nonetheless. the LBJ-T-Will is flat stupid. LBJ is 2-3 inches taller, 40 lbs heavier, better passer, better rebounder, better handle, better shooter, better finisher, faster, stronger, quicker, more athletic, better shot blocker, etc, etc, etc…and while admittedly Williams is pretty good in all those aspects, he falls way short of The King in all of them. if you cant come up with a better comparison than that, you aren’t trying.

We know that T-Will is nowhere near LeBron. He just has all of those skills but at a much lower level. A poor poor man’s LBJ to be exact lol.

Are you stupid? Of course he’s not an exact duplication of LeBron James. If he was, he’d be touted as the #1 over all pick. Like michaelds911posted, he’s a poor mans James.

If you are taking all comparisons literally then you aren’t trying.

What are you alphamale310? 12?

am i stupid? am i 12? stay classy Slick. isnt the point of these comparisons to find a player who we feel each prospect will duplicate? is Lebron really the closest thing to what you feel Terrence Williams will become in the NBA? this is where i call you a name, insult your intelligence, or tell you not to post anymore. but i wont. you’re comparisons speak for themselves. as do mine.

You didn’t make any comparisons hot shot. You asked what everyone else’s were and then copied the ones you liked. Let’s look at the definition of the word comparison because I don’t think you have a clue as to what it means:

1. the act of comparing.
2. the state of being compared.
3. a likening; illustration by similitude; comparative estimate or statement.
4. Rhetoric. the considering of two things with regard to some characteristic that is common to both, as the likening of a hero to a lion in courage.
5. capability of being compared or likened.
6. Grammar. a. the function of an adverb or adjective that is used to indicate degrees of superiority or inferiority in quality, quantity, or intensity.
b. the patterns of formation involved therein.
c. the degrees of a particular word, displayed in a fixed order, as mild, milder, mildest, less mild, least mild.

I’d especially like to single out point #4.

What enforces your total lack of understanding is your use in the post above of the words comparison and duplicate in the same sentence, two words that mean totally different things.

Now, on to the definition of duplicate:

1. a copy exactly like an original.
2. anything corresponding in all respects to something else.
3. Cards. a duplicate game.

–verb (used with object) 4. to make an exact copy of.
5. to do or perform again; repeat: He duplicated his father’s way of standing with his hands in his pockets.
6. to double; make twofold.

So which did the thread ask for? Is it called What You Think the 2009 Draft Prospects NBA Comparisons Should Be or is it called Who You Think the 2009 Draft Prospects NBA Duplicate?

Sit back, take a while, and think that over before you start running your mouth.

Class over.

i agree with alphamale, twill to lbj r u serious, if u want a similar skill set sat tracy mcgrady, athletic with the ability to pass score and rebound, fan favorite but cant get out of the first round of the first playoffs. dont compare him to somone capable of taking a team to the nba finals. and mcgrady would still be a horrible comparison. maybe a ronnie brewer or a richard jefferson at best. someone compared griffin with kris humphries, how? similar bodies but griffin is more athletic, a harder worker, and there is a reason he is thought to be a #1 pick. because he dominated college for 2 years. humphries played one year against weaker competition. i like most comparisons except i think everyone is comparing guys at a best case scenario. why not do best/worst case scenario? ex. blake griffin amare stoudemire/kenyon martin t williams richard jefferson/ronnie brewer ricky rubio steve nash/sergio rodriguez hasheem thabeet dikembe mutombo/joel pryzbilla

i agree with alphamale, twill to lbj r u serious, if u want a similar skill set sat tracy mcgrady, athletic with the ability to pass score and rebound, fan favorite but cant get out of the first round of the first playoffs. dont compare him to somone capable of taking a team to the nba finals. and mcgrady would still be a horrible comparison. maybe a ronnie brewer or a richard jefferson at best. someone compared griffin with kris humphries, how? similar bodies but griffin is more athletic, a harder worker, and there is a reason he is thought to be a #1 pick. because he dominated college for 2 years. humphries played one year against weaker competition. i like most comparisons except i think everyone is comparing guys at a best case scenario. why not do best/worst case scenario? ex. blake griffin amare stoudemire/kenyon martin t williams richard jefferson/ronnie brewer ricky rubio steve nash/sergio rodriguez hasheem thabeet dikembe mutombo/joel pryzbilla

Freaking “slick” is comparing James Johnson to Ryan Gomes,
and Jeff Teague to Mike Jame ????

what da fo ?

i began this topic. we had a nice discussion going and then another member started the same topic again and continued the discussion. you should know that since you commented there. sure i used some comparisons of other guys. if they have great comparisons why wouldnt i agree with them and give them credit. my terrence williams comparison has been and will continue to be Ronnie Brewer. believe it or not, i came up with that all by myself. you know your comparisons are horrible, everyone here is telling you so. you can stare at the dictionary until you know the definition of every word, but your comparison is still bad. i dont mean to insult anyone, but your comparisons miss the mark. usually i can see where guys are coming from, but with yours i just cant. i guess i’ve got to agree to disagree. as for your definitions, technically you’re absolutely correct. but technically one could “compare” Shaquille Oneal and Danny DeVito. the idea here is to find comparisons that are as close as possible to duplications. we could compare anything or anyone, but thats not the idea here. you know that, yet you’re trying to turn this into some sort of grammar course. maybe you should be angry with me and blackflash for using the word comparison in the original topic? strangely, however, everyone else seems to understand. btw its “class dismissed”. i’m just saying.

Blake Griffin-Amare Stoudimire/Shawn Kemp
Ricky Rubio- jason kidd
Hasheem Thabeet-Samuel Dalembert
Jordan Hil-Jermaine O’neal
James Harden-Paul Pierce/Brandon Roy
Brandon Jennings-Russell Westbrook/Allen Iverson
Demar Derozen-Vince Carter
Earl Clark-Lamar Odom
Gerald Henderson-finley
Johnny Flynn-Devin Harris/Deron Williams
Wayne Ellington-Daquean Cook
Chase Budinger-Rudy Fernandez
James Johnson-Ryan Gomes
Eric Maynor-Mike James
Ty Lawson-Raymond Felton
Stephen Curry-Mike Bibby,gilbert arenas
Tyreke Evans-penny hardaway/Baron Davis
Patrick Patterson-kenyon martin
Jeff Teague-Monta Ellis/Kevin Johnson,gilbert arenas
BJ Mullens-pau gasol
DeJuan Blair/Paul Millsap
Patrick Mills/N/A
Gani Lawal/N/A
Sam Young-James Posey
Terrence Williams-Andre Iguodala
Omri Casspi-N/A
Damion James-Leon Powe
Tyler Hansberough-Luis Scola/Udonis Haslem
DaJuan Summers-N/A
Jeff Pendergraph-N/A

1st off..read mock draft 3.5 please

Griffin- Shawn Kemp Rubio- Jason Kidd Thabeet- Mutumbo Hill-Bosh Harden- Pierce

Jennings-Iverson DeRozan- Carter Clark-Odom Henderson-Dennis Johnson Flynn- faster Tj ford

Can be way better then bosh.

griffin = rich man’s amare. why? bcuz he is a better rebounder and defender than amare and amare did not learn to shoot until after the injury so griffin can learn in the NBA.

Blake Griffin – I like the Shawn Kemp comparison
Ricky Rubio – N/A – haven’t seen enough of him to make a valid comparison
Hasheem Thabeet – Dikembe Mutombo, easily best big defender in the draft.
Jordan Hill – Brandon Wright
James Harden – Francisco Garcia
Brandon Jennings – Jamal Crawford
Demar Derozen – Vince Carter
Earl Clark – Rashard Lewis
Gerald Henderson – Jason Richardson
Johnny Flynn – Nate Robinson
Wayne Ellington – Brandon Roy
Chase Budinger – Gerald Wallace
James Johnson – Darrel Arthur
Eric Maynor – Acie Law, IV
Ty Lawson – Devin Harris
Stephen Curry – JJ Reddick
Tyreke Evans – Joe Johnson
Jeff Teague – Monta Ellis
BJ Mullens – Joel Pryzbilla
DeJuan Blair – Paul Millsap
Sam Young – James White
Terrence Williams – Andre Iguodola (Love this comparison)
Tyler Hansborough – Chuck Hayes
Jrue Holiday – Russell Westbrook (boom)/ Joseph Forte (bust)
Taj Gibson – Thaddeus Young

I’ve seen some strange comparisons, but some that I like about the players I actually know something about:

Rubio/Kidd

Similar speed and height at the PG spot with incredible passing abilities, but lacking offensively.

Teague/Kevin Johnson

I really like this one. Similar size, but able to finish strong at the rim over big men.

Hansbrough/Chuck Hayes

Really, there are plenty of guys that Hansbrough is like. Any big forward who likes to bang, get boards, and amaze you with an occasional open jumper could fit here.

Stephen Curry/Mike Bibby

Similar size, average athleticism at the guard position, but able to create because the defender has to guard them so closely due to their shooting abilities.

Derozan/Richard Jefferson

I just can’t throw around a Vince Carter comparison. Also, Jefferson’s build seems closer to Derozan’s.

Mike Bibby was more athletic out of college, Stephen Curry has no current NBA comparison he’s an original

If i ever catch that dude in a pair of basketball shorts The Big O will destroy him I need to get in shape first lol

blake griffin = shawn kemp (most of ya got that one right!)
hasheem thabeet = a faster manute bol on his best day
james harden = poor mans brandon roy
tyreke evans = poor mans clyde drexler
ricky rubio = very very poor mans pistol pete
jonny flynn = a six foot tall baron davis
stephen curry = a quicker steve blake
jordan hill = slightly more skilled ronny turiaf
demar derozan = shannon brown
brandon jennings = allen iverson with better passing and rebounding instincts (best player in this draft)
terrence williams = another poor mans clyde drexler
gerald henderson = his father
tyler hansbrough = buck williams
earl clark = lamar odom without the swagger
austin daye = channing frye
james johnson = the rookie year danny granger
jrue holliday = jerryd bayless
ty lawson = a faster, quicker, and stronger! rod strickland
jeff teague = hardest comparison of em all……robert pack
eric maynor = sebastian telfair
darren collison = poor mans rajon rondo
victor claver = andres nocioni
omri casspi = also andres nocioni
b.j. mullens = a 7 foot tall joe alexander
rodrique beaubois = nobody…. he is a unique player
taj gibson = anthony randolph
demarre carroll = the rookie year trevor ariza
wayne ellington = ronald ‘flip’ murray
toney douglas = poor mans ben gordon
christian eyenga = nicolas batum

That was the entire first round. Now I will list a few random second round guys in no specific order.

dejuan blair = nobody…he is one of a kind with his rebounding and passing skills….considering his lack of mobility
sam young = trenton hassell
chase budinger = a 6’7″ bob sura
patty mills = aaron brooks

There ya go. There is a very thought out list from a basketball mastermind!