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- Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:49pm #36176
Mr. 19134ParticipantThe strangest entity in all of sports. You probably clicked on this as soon as you saw his name just because he has that kind of appeal and mystique. Greg Oden seems to exists is a space outside the realm of our reality close to the twilight zone and every so often we get a tid bit of information that he’s close to being healthy and we start to wonder what if….
But seriously what if…?
I’m extremely curious to know everybodis opinion on Oden and whether or not he will play again and if he does will he resemble anything to what he once was. Can he still be a solid starter in this league? I don’t think anybody expect him to be Dwight Howard anymore, but Tyson Chandler or Marcus Camby possibly? Can he even get healthy?
From my understanding he’s had numerous micro-fracture surgeries which require carving into the actual bone. They take a very long time to heal from. The fact that he’s been injured a majority of his 4 year career and has been in rehab almost since the time he’s been drafted also don’t bode well for his mind. He’s probably turned into a hypchondriac who thinks he got the flue if he sneezes. Or maybe he’s more Blake Griffin and will come back thinking he’s a machine and invinsible.
But he’s still only 23 years old and we’ve saw this before from Grant Hill who most never thought would play again but he kept at it and hasn’t had any serious injury problems since returning. Though Hill isn’t 7" with knees that got to hold up a 300lb frame. But since he hasn’t been ruled medically inelligible and the Blazers who know better then all of us continue to pay him money to recover I’m guessing he can be healthy. Or else the Blazers would of severed ties this season and just not extended an 8 mil Q.O. to somebody who will never play again.
So what are you guys thoughts?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 1:54pm #631414
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI think he’ll eventually get healthy, hopefully.
My best guess is that he’ll be a big bodied defender that can slow down or even shut down some of the better centers in the league. His stats would probably look like 9ppg, 10rpg, 2bpg. Defense is where he’ll make his living though.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:03pm #631423
RUDEBOY_ParticipantIf he can stay healthy he’s the 2nd or 3rd best center in the nba..His problem has been staying healthy..I’m wondering has he been working on his post moves.He has a nice touch,but rarely showed it in games,that would’ve added about 6 more points to his point total….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:14pm #631428
Mr. 19134ParticipantFrom the little info I did find floating around about him he has been shooting and lifiting weights. Though I hope he’s only been lifting to stay cut and not put on weight cuz that would just be retarded considering the main problem is his knees holding up his frame. So if he’s been shooting and studying the game he should be good in the post.
The weirdest part of the story is the fact he was slated to return in January but had a "slight setback". After that slight setback the Blazers reduced his qualifying offer from 8 mill to 1.5 which is a huge difference for something so "slight"
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:14pm #631429
alex23Participantgreg oden was amazing in high school ad college and at the time he was drafted thought he could easily be better the dwight , if he stays healthy now he can be a 10 , 10 guy with 3 blocks a game
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:15pm #631431
GoodbyeChandlerParticipantIt’s unfortunate that such a talented young player has been missed so much time with injuries. Honestly, Im a little bit pessimistic about the future of his career. Mssing so much time so early in his career must have caused some cognitional damage. Injuries have plagued him since the beginning of the summer league in his rookie year, and he hasn’t recovered since. To add to that, he has only been healthy for 2 seasons, with only 82 games played in his career. I am hoping that he recovers but the substancial amount of time missed at this stage in his career may be too much to overcome, both physically and mentally.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:26pm #631440
Mr. 19134ParticipantThat’s what makes his situation so unique is he everytime he got his feet wet he kept drowing. When he first came back and played them 60 some games he looked rusty and immobile. The following year with a full summer of health he looked dominant in the 21 games he played. He was leading the league in blocks and getting over 9 boards and 12 points despite playing only 24 mpg because of foul trouble. Foul trouble seemed to be the only thing holding him back from greatness. Then his bodied failed again. That has to be a huge mental hurdle.
The positive though is none of his injuries were structural they were all joint related so by nature of his science he should be able to fully recover most of his athleticism because the injuries he suffered didn’t take away any of his quick twitch muscles. Once back in game shape he should be near the same type of athlete he once was. Blake came back even more athletic. It took Amare about a year but he too regained much of his athleticism though age and games played have wore on him. Even Elton Brand has rounded back into great shape.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:27pm #631441
JaeEvolutionParticipantLove Greg Oden, he’s a monster C when healthy a Dwight Howard type of C. Wish he could get healthy soon, but until he does I hope for the best for the guy. I didn’t understand his recent setback at all, to me it sounded minor but what do I know could be the most important part of his knee.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:38pm #631454
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantGeg Oden needs to stop trying to get back in the NBA and just start figuring out if he can lead a normal life. The fact that he has freakish size compounds the problems he can/will have as he gets older. He’s made more than enough money to live like a king if his health allows it.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:44pm #631460
Mr. 19134ParticipantPurpleMonkey are you a Blazers fan? Because from my studying the BlazersEdge website Blazer fans are split down the middle as to whether they want him back or not. A lot of fans are tired of having him dangled like a carrot in front of them and want to just move on with the great roster they have currently, while others are still saying he will return and to relieve Camby for stretches and eventually take over in case Camby retires.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 2:48pm #631462
IndianaBasketballParticipantHe’s only 23 years old… No way he should walk away right now.
He’s had quite a few knee injuries, but nothing has been career ending. His situation isn’t like Brandon Roy’s where he has no meniscus, etc.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:00pm #631472
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantNot more than a casual Blazer fan… just hate to see guys like Oden, Yao, Sam Bowie and Bill Walton permanently injure themselves in a futal attempt to continue to play basketball when clearly their enormous bodies will never be able to handle the stress basketball puts on their bodies.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:01pm #631473
F_DA_POParticipantThis guy is never gonna play more than 30 games in an NBA season. He’s gonna have 2 more season ending surgeries and I can see him calling it quits. He should already be set for life with a #1 pick contract. We aren’t going to be hearing about Greg Oden anymore in 3 years.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:04pm #631476
Mr. 19134Participant@Indiana
Yeah they are my thoughts. Brandon Roy has an actual detoriating condition. He medically can’t play basketball anymore if he wants to walk the rest of his life. If Oden has something as serious as that the Blazers wouldn’t still be playing this charade. I’m sure Oden himself would of announced his retirement.
I’m thinking Oden probably torn his hamstring while riding the book during rehab and that was the setback or something along them lines. Maybe some swelling in the knee. But I haven’t heard of anything like him being diagnosed with athritis like Iverson has.
I think a change of scenary would be the best thing for Oden. Maybe a trade back home to the Cavs for A.V. This gives Oden a fresh start back home and the Blazers a big man who can compliment Aldridge for a playoff run.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:07pm #631479
IndianaBasketballParticipantIt wasn’t a hamstring. It was supposedly a "non weight bearing ligament"
I spent like one week trying to figure out what ligament in the knee is non-weight bearing, but came up with nothing.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:09pm #631481
Mr. 19134Participant@PurpleMonkey, yeah I hear ya. It is a shame especially with such great talents who are both gifted and cursed with being too tall. It’s got to be extremely hard to live a normal life after that regardless because first off you’re a foot taller then normal people, and sports fans will all know who you are and when they say you they are all probably thinking the same thing…what could of have been….and you would have to know this. I couldn’t imagine being a Blazers fan because this is truly one of the strangest situations I can ever remenber in sports. They just keep teasing their fans with him while he sits courtside holding a cain looking as old as his jersey number before you remenber he should probably still be in college.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:10pm #631482
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantThe only huge/freak size player that I can think of that has come back from reaccurring foot, leg, knee injuries is Illgauskus and I’m betting his later years will not be great to him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:15pm #631487
IndianaBasketballParticipantI watched Greg Oden for 4 years of high school and he was the best young prospect I’d ever seen up close.
When he’d get the ball underneath the rim, the crowd like cringed. Like embraced for the impact. It was scary like if you were cheering for the opposite team. He just was dominate. He’s probably the most winningest player in Indiana Basketball High School history.
And he was a real winner. He’d do whatever it took to win. No ego. He’d block 10 shots or grab 20 rebounds if you asked him. Or he’d score 40 points. In the case against my high school team, he did all three lol. 37, 20 and 10 blocks. It didn’t matter. Stats didn’t motivate him. Wins did. And defensively, he was a monster. Unlike a lot of young players, he’d NEVER block the ball out of bounds. He’d tip it to himself. Just a smart player.
Just sad what’s happened to him. The fact that he’s still smiling and mentally in a good place just tells you how strong he is.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 3:21pm #631493
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantI’m only guessing but with success/failure rate of bigmen coming back from serious injury, NBA teams will soon be able to put a percentage rate on players coming back from injuries based upon their height and weight etc. if they haven’t already. With this in mind I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Nets didn’t offer Brook Lopez an extension due to his injury.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/02/2012 - 4:14pm #631523
Mr. 19134ParticipantThis is also the same reason big men fall in the draft. Besides Cousin’s attitude I know another big reason the Sixers were scared off was because of his conditioning issues. If he were to get and wasn’t taking care of himself it would take him even that much longer to get back. I remenber when we had Derrick Coleman that dude would jam and finger or toe and be out for 3-4 months.
You’d think with advanced scouting and medicine there would be ways to fix this problem. Spider Silk ligaments anybody? Seriously these players are now 100 million dollar investments I wouldn’t be surprised if nano implants started going into athletes.
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