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  • #35603
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    jaysmith1987
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    Alot of people pick Drummond as the first pick and Davis number 2. I believe this is the same mistake everyone makes. They choose the player whos more physically imposing over the guy whos going to be forced to develop skills to overcome his body type. Shaq said that he and lebron were similar in that they were so physically dominant they didnt workon parts of there game that would have made them even better players. I see drummond as an Amare type player wuth Davis being a Lamarcus alrdridge Kg type player. People thought oden was the clear number one over Durant and now Durant is the most dominant scorer in basketball 6 10 killer shot handles and plays Sf. Durant had weak athleticism but people over looked he wasnt fully developed and his wingspan more than makes up for his lack of athleticism. Tging is Davi is athletic hes just skinny and people keep asking about his guard skills but Calipari keeps his bigs near the basket. Also when has Calipari had a top recruit that hasnt produced in the nba. Im betting Davis offensive game is alot better than shown but since he has so many big time scorers around him he gets his when needed and considering the team is 17-1 Davis is doing whats expected. On the other hand Uconn has lost a couple games against inferior teams and i thinl with the talent around him drummond should be able to help seal of the paint and domimate the weaker comp hes facing downlow. I think hes an amare clone questionable motor needs the right offense and point to get his athletic enough to get blocks but not great as a defender.

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  • #625279
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    boshjonesford
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    I would take Davis over Drummond.

    Sure drummond is more psycial but Davis has lenth (you can gain wagiht but lenth cant be increased)

    Davis is amazing defensivily (Protects the rim perfectly) and is having a better collage season then Drummond….potential wise they are both high potential guys at one point i though Drummond might end up being a better offensive player but now im not so shure how much better then Davis he might be on that end.

    All in all i would take Davis over Drumond

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  • #625289
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    JaeEvolution
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    Drummond was way too hyped for my liking, but you couldn’t ever get me to pick Davis over Drummond, sorry.

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  • #625294
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    SwatLakeCity
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    I agree completely, but Drummond is the type of player that no team can afford to pass up on because the chance to get a big man like him does not come around often. Just like in 2007 when Oden was selected before Durant. Portland selected Oden because of the big man that he was. They knew he had bad knees and that Durant was the more gifted scorer, but they thought Oden would be just as dominant and would be able to overcome his knee issues. That has yet to be determined, but Portland refuses to give up on him.

    Drummond on the other hand has no physical body issues, but it’s more his desire, passion that could cost him the first pick in the draft. This desire and passion does cause him to disappear sometimes in games, especially against inferior competition, but in the end I think teams will overlook this and draft him anyways knowing that a big man like him is just too much to pass up on.

    I think you have the right comparison by comparing Davis to KG or Lemarcus Aldridge and I do think that Davis will end up becoming the better in the long run, but that remains to be seen

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  • #625298
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     remember Brandon Wright and Tyrus Thomas and Nubi Ebi??? Athletic shot blockers with wingspans… i think it depends on the team, but skinny guys dont usually workout much. My Sixers chose mo speights over Mcgee, Hibbs and Deandre…. hahaha

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    • #625307
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      WizardofOz
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       @Taylor Gang Mike

      The difference between Davis and all the guys you mentioned is that Davis has a wide set of shoulders. Dunno if he’ll ever be 250, but I think he could easily achieve and play at KG or Bosh’s weight. He’s not like a Brandan Wright who not only had skinny limbs but also narrow shoulders.
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  • #625299
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     Ant Davis reminds me of Tyrus Thomas with more upside.. he needs weight

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  • #625306
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    OhCanada-
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    Dont forget Davis is overhyped too. He s non existant in the post, has great length with no size, and is not quite as skilled as people state. Davis is just as raw as Drummond if not more skill wise, and much more raw physically. also McGee is already that frail shot blockin type bigman why grab another…not comparing Davis too McGee in any way just saying they need a post threat.

    I truely believe what we get from Davis will be similar to what we got with guys like Chandler, and Camby. The skill the media is made us believe Chandler and Camby had was there although it didnt translate to a 5 on 5 NBA format. Sure he will be an above average ball handler, with abover average body control, touch, jumpers, driving, and passing skills, although these skills will not making him a 20-ppg scorer on a winning team.

    With that being said I do believe Davis has the abillity to be a potential defensive player of the year candidate in the NBA one day, but would his defensive skills even show up when Kevin Love, Andrew Bynum, Dwight Howard, or any other true post threat is in town… Thats why they need Drummond a true big with developing post skills and a good core strength to hold down the paint, then allow Mcgee to roam and make all the highlight reel help D blocks he wants. Does anyone understand where Im coming from or am I alone in this endeavor.

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  • #625312
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    jaysmith1987
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    Do u guys remember the last few major big men prospects how many panned out. The last guy viewed as a cant miss dominant bigman that actually won a championship was tim duncan there ha e been good ones since then boarder line great but there havent been any shaqs hakeems or ewings lately. This generation is the one with big guys who are turning into forwards and dominant pgs.

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  • #625318
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    OhCanada-
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    Thats right JaySmith lets give Bynum no credit for playing a reduced role…an important reduced role on many Championship Lakers teams. Nice.

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  • #625374
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    surve
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    I wont say who I would take first because I dont think we will know enough about them to even guess who will be the better player.  This is not like back in the day before Garnett restarted all of this stuff.  Guys like Davis and Drummond are good college players on teams that have a lot of talent.  They arent relied upon as much as they would be on lesser talented teams.  They wont stay in college long enough to see advanced developement.  You pretty much are rolling the dice like Oden/Durant.  The thing I think we can take from that though is, it was very similar in that Oden was physically mature and scouts were worried about Durant putting on weight and adding strength like they say about Davis.   Durant was very underated from this aspect.

    These guys are picked almost exclusively on potential.  Had it not been 20 years since a player came straight out of HS, Garnett wouldve been the first pick.  Barnes, Sullinger, Jones III and others could end up having better careers than Drummond and Davis.  I just think its going to be more of a gut feeling on draft night as to which one of those two are picked 1st….but again, its based on upside and right now I dont think either has the advantage over the other. 

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  • #625385
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    I would take Davis over Drummond but what would i know……..

    I also went against the majority and said Austin Rivers would not be no1 2012 pick and Harrison Barnes would not be no1 2011 pick when all the sheep were hyping them up also

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  • #625400
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    thparadox
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    I agree with WizardofOz

    Davis is skinny right now, but he has the frame to put on muscle.

    I think the real questions are:

    1) is Andre Drummond one of those Amare / Dwight players who is so athletic that he will dominate for sure

    2) is Anthony Davis capable of being a KG type on offense? i.e. passing, post game, etc. Defensively he seems very good already… he needs to add weight, but it looks like he’ll be able to.

    I’d have to lean towards Andre Drummond right now based on athleticism, but I think it’s pretty even… they’re both great prospects.

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