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- Posted on: Mon, 10/03/2011 - 6:53pm #33275

festar35ParticipantHansbrough or Hibbert
Horford or Smith
Augustin or Walker
Curry or Ellis
Lowry or Martin
Gordon or Griffin
Gasol or Gay
Anthony or Stoudamire
Holiday or Turner or Young
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/03/2011 - 7:03pm #602600

Bmore_DCParticipantHibbert
Smith
Walker
Curry
Lowry
Griffin
Gay
Anthony
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/03/2011 - 7:21pm #602602

llperezto me the only real easy one on here is griffin. Gordon is important, but griffin is clearly the franchise building block and should develop into a top 10 nba player in a few years.
as for the rest
hibbert. He might never become real consistent, but he has game changing abilities and is a legit center which is harder to come by then a hustle pf.
im guessing the bobcats are thinking walker is more important since they just drafted him which shows little faith in augustin as the future pg there. But personally i think augustin is solid and will prove to be better then walker.
curry or ellis. I dont know if curry ever surpases ellis as a player, but ellis seems to be the one more likely to get traded while curry takes on more responsibility so ill say curry is more valuable.
martin over lowry. Its close, but im not real big on lowry as anything more then a average starting pg. Martin’s ability to get points and put pressure on defenses without dominating the ball is what makes him more valuable in my eyes.
i honestly think gasol will prove to be more valuable then gay. He may not be the better player, but as a center he will be harder to replace and thus more important to the team. Close though.
Anthony over stoudemire. I still think anthony has a little more to add to his game over the next few years in terms of being a leader. But with amare, i just feel he is what he is and doesnt really have any more upside. Great scorer, but not a franchise talent.
i dont think young is in the discussion with holiday and turner. I think turner could prove to be an all-star and take this spot, but im going with holiday. He is younger, better right now, and has nothing but upside in his game with no alarming weaknesses.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/03/2011 - 8:35pm #602605

BasterdInABasketParticipantHansbrough or Hibbert – Hibbert is a better starting center than Hansbrough is a better PF no doubt about that. Hansbrough brungs so much energy but hes much more replaceable.
Horford or Smith- Close but Ill say Smith. He’s such a game changer on defense. He needs to use that body and become a PF on offense though. He uses his athleticism in transition but needs to work on his post game and forget about shooting outside the free throw line.
Augustin or Walker – Char doesnt have a lot to work with a as high potential young guys besides theguys from this years class. I think they made a good pick of Kemba and will add a spark to that team right away.
Curry or Ellis – One of these guys is going to hve to leave eventually if they want to be a contender. Would rather have Curry along side a big hyscal 2 guard who can defend.
Lowry or Martin – Lowry showed he could be a good starter after Brooks left and I think he’ll be a 15-8 type guy. Martin is just too much of a chucker not sure hat he brings to a team besides that.
Gordon or Griffin – Easy. That franchise has been garbage forever. He’s their savior. No doubt Gordon is a great second option though.
Gasol or Gay- This one’s tough but we’ve seen Memphis win without Gay. Gasol is the guy that gives them 2 legit big man to battle the Gasol-Bynums and an undersized OKC team.
Anthony or Stoudamire – They traded the whole team for the guy. Yeah he better do what he’s done the last 7 years and A LOT more, that is if they actually want to win a championship. And right now how theyre built I have a hard time seeing them do that in the next few years. Theyre built around two completely offensive mided players that are all flash, Chauncey Billups for one more year and not much else.
Holiday or Turner or Young – It will be Turner especially when Iggy is gone. Will he be good NBA player IDK.. but they need him to be after using that high a pick on him.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/03/2011 - 9:47pm #602611

TRC1991ParticipantHansbrough or Hibbert – getting a center this big with his skill level is extremely difficult to find; an undersized energy-provider at the 4 spot is not
Horford or Smith- smith has been shopped around every summer for the past 3 years. I think the Hawks have nice pieces with horford and teague to build on. its a shame JJ’s on the payroll though. it was the perfect time to rebuild but they paid johnson that boatload of cash
Augustin or Walker- the Bobcats desperately need scoring and Kemba Walker immediately helps them in this category. I can see maggette stunting his growth however.
Curry or Ellis- as much as it pains me to say this, cuz i think Monta is a talent, the Warriors are high on curry because of his PG play, and when they drafted klay thompson- it was sort of a statement
Lowry or Martin- lowry is a complimentary piece but without Kevin Martins 20-25 ppg a night, this team is bottom 5 in the WC
Gordon or Griffin- as dope as EG is, blake is a once in a decade type player
Gasol or Gay- The grizz proved they can win without rudy gay. does he help? ofcourse. but having a big man as gifted as marc gasol, the possibilities for this team are almost endless
Anthony or Stoudemire- carmelo is the guy they brought in to be the franchise player and unfortunately for the 2nd straight team, amare is not the main attraction
Holiday or Turner or Young- evan turner’s growth will be a huge storyline ‘if’ the NBA comes into play. i think he has the potential to be very good
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/04/2011 - 4:44am #602622

ChewyParticipantHansbrough or Hibbert Hibbert, he has size to be a solid solid starting center. He may not make any All-Star apperences soon but he can be a starting center on a playoff team. Psyco T is more of an energy bench guy.
Horford or Smith Horford. He is an old school back to the basket threat. Smith is great, but you can find player like him, not as good as him but similar.
Augustin or Walker I still think Walker is going to fill that cruicial role of instant offense off the bench. But I also think he will get a shot to prove me, and alot of other people, wrong and show he can play pg. Keep both, start Augustin
Curry or Ellis Honestly, I would take Curry. He is one of the top shooters in the league and has shown he can pass the rock. You should build around team players first if given the chance.
Lowry or Martin Martin. Next.
Gordon or Griffin Griffin. Next.
Gasol or Gay This one was a lil tougher than I originally thought. Mobile skilled big men are valued highly. However I’ll take Gay and his ability to create for himself late in the game.
Anthony or Stoudamire Anthony. He has a similar game to Paul Pierce where he is thick and physical, but has a great jumpshot so he doesn’t take the hits that a player like Wade would. Anthony will be able to compete even as his athleticism starts to go. Once Amare loses a knee he will lose his career.
Holiday or Turner or Young Holiday. Big enough to guard most 2’s and quick enough to guard 1’s. He gives them a lot of versitility with what direction they take their team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/04/2011 - 6:33am #602634

franfranParticipantHansbrough or Hibbert
Horford or Smith
Augustin or Walker
Curry or Ellis
Lowry or Martin
Gordon or Griffin
Gasol or Gay
Anthony or Stoudamire
Holiday or Turner or Young
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/04/2011 - 9:20am #602660
B-ball fanParticipantHibbert over Hansbrough: Both players are somewhat limited defensively and inefficient offensively, but Hibbert has greater upside, possesses a rarer skill set, and the Pacers appear committed to making him their long-term starter at center and a major part of their core roster. Hibbert also is the superior player right now.
Horford over Smith: This is a tough one, but Horford has already signed a long term deal, and Atlanta has a lot of money committed to him and Joe Johnson. Smith is no guarantee to be signed to a long-term deal, given that Atlanta could use more of a true center and even if he does return, Horford is a younger and more consistent player who probably will improve more. Smith’s defense does make him better than Horford at the moment, however, so I could be wrong about this one.
Walker over Augustin: This really depends on how each player develops, but I think that Walker has much more potential than Walker due to superior athleticism and scoring inside the arc. Also, I heard that the Cats really missed Raymond Felton’s leadership last year, and maybe they are hoping that Walker will eventually fill that void, as he is much more of a classic vocal leader than Augustin.
Curry over Ellis: Curry, quite simply, is the superior player, and Curry plays pg. It would be much easier for GS to replace Ellis, an undersized sg, than Curry, a pg with superb scoring ability.
Lowry over Martin: Lowry has really made improvements with his game, and is much more of a two-way player than Martin. Martin’s offense would be hard to replace, but Houston’s offense is not their problem.
Griffin over Gordon: Both will be extremely valuable to the Clippers future success, but Griffin’s skill set is special and impossible to replace.
Gay over Gasol: This is a very tough one, but Memphis needs all the perimeter shooting and shot creating it can get. Gay can take pressure off of Z-Bo better than Gasol.
Anthony over Stoudamire: This is close, but I think Anthony is more important because he brings more skills to the table that the Knicks wouldn’t get without him than Stoudamire. D’Antoni coached teams will probably always be good pick and roll teams, so Stoudamire’s pick and roll ability is valuable, but not franchise altering. Anthony’s ability to score in isolation and the post will be important, because the Knicks and the D’Antoni era Suns before them were always less reliant on post-ups and isolations than most other teams. If Melo is able to score more efficiently than he did in Denver, and he probably will be able to, than the Knicks will remain elite on the offensive end. Otherwise, Melo won’t be able to help the team as consistently as Knicks fans may expect him to (Now if Melo and Stoudamire could play good defense . . .).
Holiday over Young over Turner: This was tough for me, as all three could be very important to the Sixers’ future. Holiday is their starting pg for now and the future. Turner could be their starting 2 or 3 if Iguodala is traded and Young’s efficient offense would be difficult to replace. I picked the order I did because i think Holiday’s role will only expand in the future and he already has been the most important of the players listed, and Turner is not guaranteed of becoming a major part of the Sixers’ core, especially if Iguodala isn’t traded. I wonder if Turner’s future is as more of a combo guard, maybe for another team. Young may never be a star, but his continued development is crucial for the Sixers to improve, as they likely won’t get another high lottery pick in a while.
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