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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 4:58pm #33246
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    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7039251/nba-labor-talks-players-owners-return-talks-saturday-tense-moments

    Labor negotiations got a little heated today lol.

    While meeting with the owners, Stern pointed at Wade while making a comment, a source told Broussard. Wade felt as if Stern was belittling him and yelled at the commissioner.

    "You’re not pointing your finger at me," Wade said, sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher. "I’m not your child."

    The sides then went their separate ways for a cooling-off session, but several of the players had heard enough. Sources said Stern then asked to speak separately with Hunter, who then returned to speak with the players and was able to convince them to rejoin the owners in the meeting.

    One source told Broussard the move by Hunter was a lifeline for Stern, who would not have looked good had the league’s top players stormed out with 10 owners present.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:03pm #602250
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    I think Kobe needs to be at these meetings. He could have a big impact I think.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:03pm #602251
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    Rightfully so for Wade to stand up for himself. It’s players like him , Lebron, Kobe, KD, Dwight, etc. that make it possible for a person like Stern to swim in moeny.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:12pm #602253
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    I seriously think Kobe, LeBron, Gasol, Wade, Dwight, Dirk, Duncan, KG, Pierce, Allen, Paul, Williams, Melo, Stoudemire, Kidd, Griffin… All the biggest, brightest and most respected NBA veterans should SHOW up… I can guarantee a damn deal would get done then.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:28pm #602257
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     This is a bad sign.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:35pm #602259
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     I think what bothers me the most (aside from the fact that the fans are an afterthought in this process) is that the owners and players are meeting maybe once a week.

    Now I’m not all too familiar with how these negotiations go but why aren’t they meeting every damn day to get something worked out? Or at least every other day?



    Don’t tell me it takes an entire week to take the information from the meetings and have it processed through each sides’ legal teams and to construct new proposals. I’m not buying that.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:40pm #602262
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    It’s like arguing with your girlfriend. When you’re not agreeing and just not seeing eye to eye, sometimes you just have to pull back and let it breathe for a min lol. Give it a few days. Let one another think and clear their minds, then give it another shot.

    These are really complex figures and anytime this MUCH money is involved, it just takes time. The system is broken and both sides have different views on how to fix it. Then you got old owners and new owners with different views. Just disagreements all over the damn place. A mess that will take awhile to get sorted.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:50pm #602265
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     @WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

    Fisher: "We did not come out with a deal today…we will be back at 10 am tomorrow."

     
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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:53pm #602267
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    Why does D Wade feel he is not David Stern’s child? He tells him what to wear.

    Once they agreed to that dress code, they lost all respect.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:53pm #602268
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     Fisher FFS come on man :noway: 

    Owners this week relaxed their insistence on the hard cap, instead proposing a system where there would be four levels of the luxury tax, and the more a team spent, the higher that tax. (There is currently a $1 for every $1 over the tax threshold.) But Fisher, without getting into specifics, said that system still wouldn’t work for the players.

    "I think the idea was if you removed the name ‘hard cap,’ that that would be good enough in itself. But we still believe the mechanisms … still in just about every sense would be a hard cap for teams,” he said. "There would be very few if any teams that would be in a position to spend over that particular number, so that’s how we feel about it at this point. It doesn’t mean that the negotiation is over, but it’s definitely not anywhere close to where we’d be able to agree to it.”

    There’s also still a lot of teams that don’t spend over the luxury tax anyways other than the Lakers that you play for.

    http://www.nba.com/2011/news/09/30/labor-meeting.ap/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 6:10pm #602270
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    I Think Stern has been the best Commissioner in all of sports..Since he’s been with the NBA…He has Lifted the league to great heights..But during this Lockout..He has been a BlockHead..And has Acted completely CHILDISH!!!

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 6:46pm #602276
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    I hear people say Stern has been the commissioner in all of sports but the NBA is nothing right now without Magic, Bird, and Jordan. Those 3, plus the All-Star Weekend, took the NBA to new hights.

    Then the "Allen Iverson" generation came in and David Stern couldn’t handle it. Simple as that. Now he is stuck with a bunch of rich-as-hell prima donas that he has to convince aren’t making the money for the league that they used to…..yet Kobe, Melo, Durant, LeBron, and Dwight Howard have a combined 2 years in college! Now, I am in college and I know how big of a scam these 4-5 years are (not kidding,) but you do learn a lot of things about economics and the way the world works (disclaimer: if you think for yourself you learn even more.) So, the big news we get is these superstars coming to meetings that they know NOTHING about. Huh. Doesn’t seem like they are helping out a ton here gentleman.

    Also, before we praise Stern, can we please remember how sketchy he has been. The Jordan "retirement" and the referee rigging games, getting caught, releasing an I-swear-underoath-this-is-true document that gives 3 examples of the NBA rigging games, and finally Commishioner Stern says the aformentioned ref is "a singing, cooperating witness." (doesn’t that mean he is telling the truth?) 

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  • Posted on: Fri, 09/30/2011 - 9:00pm #602281
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    Football is the most popular sports in the country,if you go by the ratings a sports garners…But NBA players are the most Marketable and their Jerseys are the top sellers out of the 4 major sports..In baseball their biggest rivalry is the Yankees vs Redsox..But how many people say A-Rod vs Big Papi? When the Lakers play the Heat they say Kobe vs The Big 3.. Or Kobe vs Lebron….

    The league do miss Magic,Jordan,Dr. J and Bird..But it has Survived..Just like its going to Survive after Shaq,Kobe, Lebron and Wade retires…

    Unlike in other sports, in the nba its star players are bigger than the teams..And the star players know that..Thats why they’re paid so well,the public knows their by 1 name…In a way the owners love that..In another way they hate it…Becuz they know the players are going to want a bigger piece of the pie….

    Thats why i think the big name players should be more vocal in these meetings…

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  • Posted on: Sun, 10/02/2011 - 6:00pm #602475
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    good on wade somebody needed to do that

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  • Posted on: Mon, 10/03/2011 - 7:09am #602510
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