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  • #33133
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    StF616
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     Yeah just what you read in the title
    Per YourHoustonNewsMarcus Camby was booked for allegedly having weed in his possession while driving late last night: “Two-time NBA all-star Marcus Camby, 37, of the Portland Trail Blazers, was arrested by Pearland police Monday and charged with marijuana possession. Police officials say officers pulled over Camby’s black Porsche around midnight on when he was spotted driving north on Cullen Boulevard with a sun screen device blocking the front window. Officers then questioned Camby and a passenger, later identified as Kendal Lance Johnson, 25. Officers say they noticed the smell of marijuana. Camby gave permission for the car to be searched and police said they discovered what appeared to be several marijuana cigarettes and a baggie with a small amount of the same substance hidden under the front seat. Both suspects denied ownership of the marijuana. Camby and Johnson were arrested and later charged with possession of marijuana in a drug-free zone, a class A misdemeanor offense. Both suspects were released after posting $2,000 bond.”
    http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/09/marcus-camby-arrested-for-marijuana-possession

    Thoughts?
    I really don’t care its just weed and its a lockout half of the NBA Players get high during this period.
    Especially since they won’t get penalized for it when/if the season comes.

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  • #600959
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    Bmore_DC
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    sounds like some profiling to me

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  • #600965
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     It does sound like profiling to me too, but you gotta be smarter than that.  I don’t care if people drink or smoke weed or whatever, but just don’t get behind the wheel.  You’re putting others in danger and risking getting in trouble like Camby did.

    This doesn’t change my opinion on Camby at all, but I’m not gonna say what he did was smart.

    Basketball-reference.com has listed that Marcus has made 107,797,072 on NBA salary alone, not including endorsements.  If he wanted to party hard that night, he could have hired a driver or called a cab.

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  • #600967
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    Fritz
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    But does anyone on here think marijuana should even be illegal? Im so tired of people getting in trouble for this drug it is the most harmless drug out there, your worse off eating fast food. Weed hasn’t killed one person ever. How many lives have cigarrettes and alcohol taken? Not only has if been found to have thousands of medical uses, studies have not confidently found any long term side effects from using this drug.

    And now why it should be legal, we spend millions upon millions of dollars enforcing this law, and in a down economy that is a heavy price to pay. We are all paying are tax money to feed these smokers in jail, which they dont belong. Legalizing it would bring a ton of revenue to the government, by creating thousands of jobs for name brand distributors. They would be taxed heavily like cigarettes, bringing a lot more revenue to the governemnt.

    A friend of mine was shot because of a marijuana drug deal. This is rediculous. This would not happen if it was legal and become purchaseable. Making it legal would decrease underground drug dealing and the vilonce that comes from it.

    $2000? Really? for a few joints god this government is wack

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  • #600971
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    kobyz
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    just a correction, Marcus Camby was never NBA all-star

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  • #600972
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    kobyz
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    i agree that cigarrettes is most worst than marijuana and maybe alcohol also but that isn’t saying marijuana should be legal, if it occur it could then start making troubles in the world, it’s like to preferred to prevent rather than cure.

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  • #600978
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    M-DYMES
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    If alcohol, cigarettes, K2, whiteout, sharpies, paint thinner, fast food, and aerosol cans are legal…marijuana should be legal as well.

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  • #600979
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    Malik-Universal
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     i so agree with m-dymes and i dont even smoke weed

    but y would camby give them permission to look into the car if theres weed?

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  • #600996
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    it’s not observation on the overall picture!

    and cigarrettes also should not be legal cause it’s the number one cause of death(more than terror and road accident combine)and number one cause of diseases in the world!

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  • #600999
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    M-DYMES
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    Since when is it illegal though for people to do things that may kill them.  Is it illegal to go to war?  Is it illegal to drive a car?  Is it illegal to climb a mountain or skydive? 

    The gov’t should but out of people’s lives for the most part.  I’m not completely against the gov’t, but sometimes the shit they do is just straight up ignorant.  Weed is a very pressing issue for me against them and its not even because i enjoy it at times.  Its the fact that in a struggling economy, they have an opportunity to tax this substance and make a buttload off it, while ecouraging spending by the people, circulating the "mighty dollar".  If you smoke weed and you want it, your gonna get it anyway.  I cannot find a street around here that I don’t know someone whose holding some or selling.  

    Who says they should have the right to control my means of gaining euphoria?  Go Ron Paul!!!  Never thought I’d be pushin for a republican. 

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  • #601001
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    Scottoant93
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    Universal- Saying no to look into your car makes you look guilty and they most likely will get a search warrent to check you out, its better just to say yes, and hope to god they just look flash the lights around the car for a quick sec. and let you go.

    Honestly I dont care if weed is legal or not,  I dont smoke so i dont give a fuck

    As for Camby, as a veteran this is a stupid thing to get in trouble for, but life it could be wayyyyyyy worse, hes just lucky theres a lockout a david stern can’t fine him

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  • #601005
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    M-DYMES
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    Also,

    The decriminalization of marijuana would also bring about a deduction in taxes towards the American pubic who do not smoke weed.  Those peope would save money since the gov’t would no longer need to charge the public to house these "criminals"  who were caught with marijuana or the intention to sell.  Even if the gov’t did not cut taxes due to this, atleast this money could go towards something more meaningful.  Or at the least, the gov’t should be down for it so that the politicians could pocket that extra coin for themselves through ridiculous programs. 

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  • #601009
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    It’s all about corporate business. Alcohol companies play a large part in the economy and make billions of dollars off of people who want to get a buzz every now and then. But if suddenly a new substance is available legally for everyone, and that substance not only proves to be safer and makes you less likely to do something stupid, then all of a sudden beer companies lose a LOT of money. So to prevent that they just feed the politicians with money to make sure weed is never legalized.

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  • #601011
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    M-DYMES
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    Great point Akhan786. 

    Weed>>>Alcohol.  Its safer, doesn’t have near the side effects or level of sickness you can obtain from alcohol, it takes less to reach that buzzed state, and it saves you room in the fridge.  It also doesn’t contain the caloric content of alcohol, as long as you avoid the munchies or approach them with the correct foods.  It also keeps you relatively the same person, where as alcohol can turn you into a whole nother being, usually a lesser one. 

     

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  • #601023
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    apb540
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    You leaving nothing else to say. Spot on man. 

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  • #601024
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    Fritz
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    and Scott thats not the case man you always say no litterally my friend got pulled 3 days ago, cop saw suspected drugs asked to search he said he didnt consent. After that cops threatened to get the drug dogs and said they would find it any way but its all a scare tactic he went back to his car and came back after checking the lisense and said "its your lucky day the drug dogs are tied up" they do this all the time, its really rare they will actually get the drug dogs unless they think your moving some serious weight. Because other wise it can be a long wait and if you know your rights it can help you out a lot.

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  • #601038
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    kobyz
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    @M-DYMES, but there is sensibleness for weed to be illegal  if you looking at the big picture and not play narrow-minded, cause you know that in current situation weed don’t make meaningful damage as its usage in general is in accepted level, people who smoke do it from time to time, but that would not be the case if it were to be legal, as in this situation the prescribed amount of the usage will become out of proportion in any aspect, and then the medical damage of the drug will eventually start to effect, imo it will bring much more violent an criminalness and also we know that marijuana can lead to usage of much more and really harmful drugs like cocaine, heroine and stuff so i don’t want to imagine what will happen in that department if marijuana will be legal.
     

    about cigarrettes, you have demagogic way trying justify it, you can’t compere that to other things cause it not the same approximate size of problem If at all.
    cigarrettes is the biggest thing that ruin the world, it’s somthing the society lost all sanity about, can’t jude it for there on good and government should interfere, it’s not only the extent of death it cause, it harm enormous deal of innocent people(why a baby who yet to be burn should suffer all of his life as he should live with asthma just cause derivative him smoking perents?). so smoking cigarrettes has no evn one positive value, it the issue that brings the most grief and pain in the world, it’s just full of un-logic and stupidity that can’t be ignore anymore!

     

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  • #601043
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    M-DYMES
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    I disagree with you to the fullest kobyz, but to each his own.

    Question…

    What are your thoughts on Bill O’reilly?

    And I must say…

    I hate cigarettes but, "cigarrettes is the biggest thing that ruin the world", that is a little over the top.  How bout people’s lack of morals, a constant fight in humanity for power and the dollar over all other objectives including peace. 

    I’d even argue that alcohol may be worse because it results in more losses of innocent lives.  People who die from cigarettes typically are those who took that risk upon themselves, few die from 2nd hand smoke alone.  But plenty of innocent people die from car wrecks from people who don’t understand the concept of how dangerous it is to drive while intoxicated. 

    And cigarettes have 2 positives…

    1.  They are a stress reliever for some and may be a better option than some even more reckless behavior they would pursue otherwise.

    2.  Helps our economy, brings about jobs and encourages spending. 

    You have to look at the BIG picture since I’m so damn narrowminded. 

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  • #601061
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    Jlv2011

    1) Move to California

    2) Locate your nearest pot clinic

    3) Go in and get a card (say you have chronic insomnia, migraines, etc)

    4) Buy some tree (I prefer indica)

    5) Get high but do it responsibly(don’t go driving around)

    FYI You need to be at least 18 to get it without parental consent but some doctors may only permit to 21 yrs and older.

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  • #601070
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    kobyz
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     don’t know who is Bill O’reilly, i’m not from U.S.

    the point is that smoking cigarettes is "people’s lack of morals" on top of everything, it’s people who not thoughtful for themself. their childs, families, surroundings, environs and environment.

    no. alcohol is not worse cause it somthing that humanity in general behave toward and deal with logical, making Use in normal routine and level of dosage, there is rational menner about that unlike cigarettes which making people Insane in their’s thinking or more true lack of thinking about the subject.
    alcohol not came close the the losses of lives cigarettes cause and what about the pain it gaves to their family member and relative, for no reasons, also it doesn’t metter that most People who die from cigarettes took that risk upon themselves, the reality is that for some reason People are crazy in their handle cigarettes, it make them ignore implication and life so to me they even innocent in some sense, what metter is that smoking cigarettes it the biggest Human folly and the biggest problem by miles in the world, it’s the thing that brings the most sadness, pain and sorrow and damage quality of life for everyone, so should make it illegal even if it against Individual freedom.

    "1. They are a stress reliever for some and may be a better option than some even more reckless behavior they would pursue otherwise."

    it still doesn’t reason to smoke and not positive, what cigarettes do is to make, after addiction, the person to constant suffer and by every smoking to relieve a little the pain that would not have be there if not for the smoking, and that not any kind of pleasure, only a lie! unlike weed or alcohol that have pleasure element.

    "2. Helps our economy, brings about jobs and encourages spending."

    that is stupidity to think about that as a factor in argumant!

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  • #601079
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    apb540
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    You might not be from the USA but you sure do talk about Marijuana like Nancy Reagan. I could spend a few minutes writing a column that disproves every single point you tried to make, but instead I will ask that you just use Google to gain some more knowlegde outside of your 5th grade DARE class.

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  • #601093
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    kobyz
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    i don’t have problem with smoking Cannabis from time to time!

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  • #601129
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    M-DYMES
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    "that is stupidity to think about that as a factor in argumant!"

    How is that stupid?  Its the truth, and it is a positive creation from cigarettes whether you are to prideful to admit it or not.  And people who smoke cigarettes bare that risk of increasing their chance of an early death.  Just choose not to smoke them.  But you can’t tell a completely sober/non smoking individual not to walk outside and they end up getting hit by a drunk driver. 

    People who smoke cigarettes create their own destiny.  When you drink alcohol in excess you can take other people’s fate with you as well. 

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  • #601132
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    Malik-Universal
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     just cuz someone smokes cigs doesnt mean they lack morals

    i have friends who smoke cigs but there not bad people

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  • #601211
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    kobyz
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    most of the men who smoke cigs are good people, but it’s still the most antimoral habit out there in the world, the most foolishnessand destructive for no reason action in humanity, they just not aware for that and have &$#%#&@! up and mattoid assumption about that subject, as it start with flawed conventions in culture of today.

    i had an uncle-my mother twin brother, who was the greatest and most kindness person i know, died so young at age 48 because of cigarettes(lung cancer), even that i loved him endlessly and still love, i can’t not to be angry in some place about him and what he did, for stupid thing like cigarettes to keep 3 children(one 12yo daughter) orphan from father and to make hundreds relatives devastating for that lose.

    for some reason this is the one problem in the world that people apathetic with lunatic, ignore and neglected behavior toward, call me naive but i think cigarettes should be outlawed cause generally people just can’t judes and handle this logical!
     

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