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    TRC1991
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    it has nothing to do with comparing the 2 but if you like to see sick jordan dunks, this is for you

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  • #597905
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    it has nothing to do with comparing the 2 but if you like to see sick jordan dunks, this is for you

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  • #597425
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    it has nothing to do with comparing the 2 but if you like to see sick jordan dunks, this is for you

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  • #597874
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    Can you tell us somthing we didn’t already know?

    And I’m assuming that you’re the one that made this video.

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  • #597908
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    Can you tell us somthing we didn’t already know?

    And I’m assuming that you’re the one that made this video.

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  • #597428
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    Can you tell us somthing we didn’t already know?

    And I’m assuming that you’re the one that made this video.

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  • #597907
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     Jordan fans have so much fear of Kobe Bryant. It’s funny really, there is absolutely no reason to mention Bryant, but at any point that you hear someone talk about how good Jordan was, they always have to bring up Bryant’s name in some negative context, the same way in a crowd of fans talking about Bryant’s ability, you always have one bring up Jordan. Just accept the two for what they are, GREAT basketball players. Jordan himself has said he’s not always going to be the best, and is actually a BIG fan of Kobe’s. MJ is the G.O.A.T, but no one can say that he remains that, nobody can say Bryant is done winning titles, none of us can say we’ve even seen the player yet to become the next G.O.A.T, but what wee can say in regards to any talk of greatness, is that we’ve managed to watch 2 of the greatest basketball players EVER in their primes, one right after the other. As basketball fans, we should feel truely honored, as we may never get another player with either MJ or Kobe’s talent, desire, drive,work-ethic and ability to WILL teams to victory.

    Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, thabnk you both for being so great and giving myself countless hoursd of great baskretball entertainment.

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  • #597941
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     Jordan fans have so much fear of Kobe Bryant. It’s funny really, there is absolutely no reason to mention Bryant, but at any point that you hear someone talk about how good Jordan was, they always have to bring up Bryant’s name in some negative context, the same way in a crowd of fans talking about Bryant’s ability, you always have one bring up Jordan. Just accept the two for what they are, GREAT basketball players. Jordan himself has said he’s not always going to be the best, and is actually a BIG fan of Kobe’s. MJ is the G.O.A.T, but no one can say that he remains that, nobody can say Bryant is done winning titles, none of us can say we’ve even seen the player yet to become the next G.O.A.T, but what wee can say in regards to any talk of greatness, is that we’ve managed to watch 2 of the greatest basketball players EVER in their primes, one right after the other. As basketball fans, we should feel truely honored, as we may never get another player with either MJ or Kobe’s talent, desire, drive,work-ethic and ability to WILL teams to victory.

    Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, thabnk you both for being so great and giving myself countless hoursd of great baskretball entertainment.

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  • #597461
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    iguapops420
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     Jordan fans have so much fear of Kobe Bryant. It’s funny really, there is absolutely no reason to mention Bryant, but at any point that you hear someone talk about how good Jordan was, they always have to bring up Bryant’s name in some negative context, the same way in a crowd of fans talking about Bryant’s ability, you always have one bring up Jordan. Just accept the two for what they are, GREAT basketball players. Jordan himself has said he’s not always going to be the best, and is actually a BIG fan of Kobe’s. MJ is the G.O.A.T, but no one can say that he remains that, nobody can say Bryant is done winning titles, none of us can say we’ve even seen the player yet to become the next G.O.A.T, but what wee can say in regards to any talk of greatness, is that we’ve managed to watch 2 of the greatest basketball players EVER in their primes, one right after the other. As basketball fans, we should feel truely honored, as we may never get another player with either MJ or Kobe’s talent, desire, drive,work-ethic and ability to WILL teams to victory.

    Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, thabnk you both for being so great and giving myself countless hoursd of great baskretball entertainment.

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  • #597512
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    MJ’s career is legendary. When you combine that with his impact off of the court in the marketing world, he just can’t be topped.

    However, skill wise… I think Kobe is very close to him. Kobe actually is a better ball handler and long range shooter in my opinion. I think MJ was more explosive athletically though. Plus MJ had huge hands that allowed him to do things with the ball that Kobe just can’t do. Defensively, they’re close. Kobe has a great mid-range game, but I’d definitely give that edge to MJ. Post games are close. I’d give MJ the edge in overall intangibles.

    The biggest difference to me is mentally though. As great as Kobe is mentally, I don’t think he’s close to MJ. MJ just aggressively inflicted his will on everybody and under the brightest stages on a consistent basis. MJ was the definition of a killer and just had plenty of moments on the biggest stages where he showed it.  

    I’m just thankful for being old enough to watch MJ play during the key parts of his career and Kobe for his entire career. I’ll say Kobe is the closest thing to MJ I’ve seen so far, which isn’t surprising since Kobe models his game after MJ’s.

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  • #597958
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    MJ’s career is legendary. When you combine that with his impact off of the court in the marketing world, he just can’t be topped.

    However, skill wise… I think Kobe is very close to him. Kobe actually is a better ball handler and long range shooter in my opinion. I think MJ was more explosive athletically though. Plus MJ had huge hands that allowed him to do things with the ball that Kobe just can’t do. Defensively, they’re close. Kobe has a great mid-range game, but I’d definitely give that edge to MJ. Post games are close. I’d give MJ the edge in overall intangibles.

    The biggest difference to me is mentally though. As great as Kobe is mentally, I don’t think he’s close to MJ. MJ just aggressively inflicted his will on everybody and under the brightest stages on a consistent basis. MJ was the definition of a killer and just had plenty of moments on the biggest stages where he showed it.  

    I’m just thankful for being old enough to watch MJ play during the key parts of his career and Kobe for his entire career. I’ll say Kobe is the closest thing to MJ I’ve seen so far, which isn’t surprising since Kobe models his game after MJ’s.

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  • #597994
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    MJ’s career is legendary. When you combine that with his impact off of the court in the marketing world, he just can’t be topped.

    However, skill wise… I think Kobe is very close to him. Kobe actually is a better ball handler and long range shooter in my opinion. I think MJ was more explosive athletically though. Plus MJ had huge hands that allowed him to do things with the ball that Kobe just can’t do. Defensively, they’re close. Kobe has a great mid-range game, but I’d definitely give that edge to MJ. Post games are close. I’d give MJ the edge in overall intangibles.

    The biggest difference to me is mentally though. As great as Kobe is mentally, I don’t think he’s close to MJ. MJ just aggressively inflicted his will on everybody and under the brightest stages on a consistent basis. MJ was the definition of a killer and just had plenty of moments on the biggest stages where he showed it.  

    I’m just thankful for being old enough to watch MJ play during the key parts of his career and Kobe for his entire career. I’ll say Kobe is the closest thing to MJ I’ve seen so far, which isn’t surprising since Kobe models his game after MJ’s.

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  • #598024
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    Grandmama
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    I don’t have to watch a video to know MJ was better than Kobe…

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  • #597541
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    Grandmama
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    I don’t have to watch a video to know MJ was better than Kobe…

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  • #597987
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    Grandmama
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    I don’t have to watch a video to know MJ was better than Kobe…

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  • #598039
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    llperez

    kobe is better

    *runs*

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  • #597556
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    llperez

    kobe is better

    *runs*

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  • #598002
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    llperez

    kobe is better

    *runs*

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  • #598045
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    Entropy
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    Actually i always thought Wade was the closest thing to Jordan interms of playing style.

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  • #597563
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    Entropy
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    Actually i always thought Wade was the closest thing to Jordan interms of playing style.

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  • #598008
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    Entropy
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    Actually i always thought Wade was the closest thing to Jordan interms of playing style.

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  • #598023
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    Wade plays similar to MJ in the fact he makes a living from the mid-range and attacking the basket, while not being a great long range shooter. Athletically, he plays a similar style as well.

    But just size and overall total skills/fundamentals wise, I think Kobe is closer to MJ. MJ really didn’t have any real holes in his game and the same goes for Kobe in my opinion. As great as Wade is, there are still some holes in his game.

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  • #598059
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    Wade plays similar to MJ in the fact he makes a living from the mid-range and attacking the basket, while not being a great long range shooter. Athletically, he plays a similar style as well.

    But just size and overall total skills/fundamentals wise, I think Kobe is closer to MJ. MJ really didn’t have any real holes in his game and the same goes for Kobe in my opinion. As great as Wade is, there are still some holes in his game.

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  • #597577
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    Wade plays similar to MJ in the fact he makes a living from the mid-range and attacking the basket, while not being a great long range shooter. Athletically, he plays a similar style as well.

    But just size and overall total skills/fundamentals wise, I think Kobe is closer to MJ. MJ really didn’t have any real holes in his game and the same goes for Kobe in my opinion. As great as Wade is, there are still some holes in his game.

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  • #598456
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     I don’t personally think MJ was worlds better than Kobe in terms of mentality, simply that he didn’t have nearly the same level of competition at his position as Kobe has. Nearly every team has a super 2 whereas MJ played against guys like Hersey Hawkins who were 2 inches shorter and nowhere near the athlete(still to this day few are). 

    No one can really say Jordan is better in all reality, because he has NEVER had the offensive responsibility that Kobe has. MJ has consistently been a scorer who would hit open men. Kobe has actually had to play a dual role as scorer and facilitator.

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  • #598494
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     I don’t personally think MJ was worlds better than Kobe in terms of mentality, simply that he didn’t have nearly the same level of competition at his position as Kobe has. Nearly every team has a super 2 whereas MJ played against guys like Hersey Hawkins who were 2 inches shorter and nowhere near the athlete(still to this day few are). 

    No one can really say Jordan is better in all reality, because he has NEVER had the offensive responsibility that Kobe has. MJ has consistently been a scorer who would hit open men. Kobe has actually had to play a dual role as scorer and facilitator.

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  • #598007
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     I don’t personally think MJ was worlds better than Kobe in terms of mentality, simply that he didn’t have nearly the same level of competition at his position as Kobe has. Nearly every team has a super 2 whereas MJ played against guys like Hersey Hawkins who were 2 inches shorter and nowhere near the athlete(still to this day few are). 

    No one can really say Jordan is better in all reality, because he has NEVER had the offensive responsibility that Kobe has. MJ has consistently been a scorer who would hit open men. Kobe has actually had to play a dual role as scorer and facilitator.

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  • #598019
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     umm Kobe wasnt even the Lakers go to guy when he won his first 3 titles 

    as for MJ ,he was always the go to guy even as a rookie 

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     umm Kobe wasnt even the Lakers go to guy when he won his first 3 titles 

    as for MJ ,he was always the go to guy even as a rookie 

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  • #598506
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     umm Kobe wasnt even the Lakers go to guy when he won his first 3 titles 

    as for MJ ,he was always the go to guy even as a rookie 

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  • #598531
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     Kobe might not have been the guy getting the most touches for the first 3 titles, but he was most certainly the guy the ball was going through during the 4th quarter. 

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  • #598043
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     Kobe might not have been the guy getting the most touches for the first 3 titles, but he was most certainly the guy the ball was going through during the 4th quarter. 

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  • #598493
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     Kobe might not have been the guy getting the most touches for the first 3 titles, but he was most certainly the guy the ball was going through during the 4th quarter. 

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  • #598528
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    @iguapops420

    Allen Iverson, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady… Who are the other "super" two guards that Kobe has competed against? I wouldn’t call Ray Allen a super two. I wouldn’t call Jason Richardson a super two. I mean, who else? And MJ competed against a lot of those same players, except he was 38-40 years old lol. A young MJ in his prime would have no problems destroying the same wings that Kobe has competed against during his career.

    And mentality wise… It’s really just all opinion. But based on what I’ve seen from both players, I’d say MJ was a notch above. Simply because I feel like he delivered under the most intense/pressure moments and on the biggest stages. MJ is the player Kobe wants to be… From the skill set to the manerisms. That’s clear to see.

    MJ could play as the main facilitator or he could just hit the open man. I mean, neither was a problem. MJ averages more assists than Kobe career wise.

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  • #598040
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    @iguapops420

    Allen Iverson, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady… Who are the other "super" two guards that Kobe has competed against? I wouldn’t call Ray Allen a super two. I wouldn’t call Jason Richardson a super two. I mean, who else? And MJ competed against a lot of those same players, except he was 38-40 years old lol. A young MJ in his prime would have no problems destroying the same wings that Kobe has competed against during his career.

    And mentality wise… It’s really just all opinion. But based on what I’ve seen from both players, I’d say MJ was a notch above. Simply because I feel like he delivered under the most intense/pressure moments and on the biggest stages. MJ is the player Kobe wants to be… From the skill set to the manerisms. That’s clear to see.

    MJ could play as the main facilitator or he could just hit the open man. I mean, neither was a problem. MJ averages more assists than Kobe career wise.

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  • #598490
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    @iguapops420

    Allen Iverson, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady… Who are the other "super" two guards that Kobe has competed against? I wouldn’t call Ray Allen a super two. I wouldn’t call Jason Richardson a super two. I mean, who else? And MJ competed against a lot of those same players, except he was 38-40 years old lol. A young MJ in his prime would have no problems destroying the same wings that Kobe has competed against during his career.

    And mentality wise… It’s really just all opinion. But based on what I’ve seen from both players, I’d say MJ was a notch above. Simply because I feel like he delivered under the most intense/pressure moments and on the biggest stages. MJ is the player Kobe wants to be… From the skill set to the manerisms. That’s clear to see.

    MJ could play as the main facilitator or he could just hit the open man. I mean, neither was a problem. MJ averages more assists than Kobe career wise.

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  • #598545
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     MJ always had far more shooters. Go read The Last Stand. Phil Jackson specifically states that Jordan wasn’t able to be the facilitator because he was able to balance scoring and creating for others as both primary responibilites. That was why they had Pippen do the job. MJ had higher assist numbers in an era where team ppg totals were higher. Don’t even act as if MJ was ever able to play the role of primary ballhandler and scorer.

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  • #598585
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     MJ always had far more shooters. Go read The Last Stand. Phil Jackson specifically states that Jordan wasn’t able to be the facilitator because he was able to balance scoring and creating for others as both primary responibilites. That was why they had Pippen do the job. MJ had higher assist numbers in an era where team ppg totals were higher. Don’t even act as if MJ was ever able to play the role of primary ballhandler and scorer.

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  • #598097
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     MJ always had far more shooters. Go read The Last Stand. Phil Jackson specifically states that Jordan wasn’t able to be the facilitator because he was able to balance scoring and creating for others as both primary responibilites. That was why they had Pippen do the job. MJ had higher assist numbers in an era where team ppg totals were higher. Don’t even act as if MJ was ever able to play the role of primary ballhandler and scorer.

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