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- Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:42am #32785

paradigmnParticipantDude is super confident right now(rightfully so)…wants the season to start NOW…lol…fat chance on that happening.
He obviously has been tearing up the summer leagues….and…has looked FANTASTIC….he is saying he is "his old self again" and that he is ready to DOMINATE!!!
I believe him…the only thing is, he is def geeked up over dominating these summer league games….NBA is not summer league…we dont need to play in them to know that…but…I like him saying this stuff…..plus the Wizards should be fun to watch this season with Wall and Veselly plus Nick Young and Crawford are both exciting players ….I can’t wait to see what he does in his second year…but….it looks like we all will be waiting…including Wall.
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/08/john-wall-im-back-to-myself/
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:12am #593729
prodigynewyorkParticipantI think he made that statement based on his health more than the fact that hes been dominating summer leagues but we will see hopefully this season if he will be able to dominate… i just want a basketball season…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:12am #593760
prodigynewyorkParticipantI think he made that statement based on his health more than the fact that hes been dominating summer leagues but we will see hopefully this season if he will be able to dominate… i just want a basketball season…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:12am #593289
prodigynewyorkParticipantI think he made that statement based on his health more than the fact that hes been dominating summer leagues but we will see hopefully this season if he will be able to dominate… i just want a basketball season…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:43am #593740
Andrew1984ParticipantNick Young is a restricted free agent. He has said he will not give Washington a hometown discount. With the emergence of Jordan Crawford, it seems unlikely that Washington will match anyone who overbids.
I’m a big fan of Nick Young’s game. I like his aggressiveness, ability to shoot off the dribble, handle the basketball, and get to the line…but I do think playing on a bad team inflated his numbers. I think some GM will probably offer to overpay him and Washington won’t match.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:43am #593772
Andrew1984ParticipantNick Young is a restricted free agent. He has said he will not give Washington a hometown discount. With the emergence of Jordan Crawford, it seems unlikely that Washington will match anyone who overbids.
I’m a big fan of Nick Young’s game. I like his aggressiveness, ability to shoot off the dribble, handle the basketball, and get to the line…but I do think playing on a bad team inflated his numbers. I think some GM will probably offer to overpay him and Washington won’t match.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:43am #593301
Andrew1984ParticipantNick Young is a restricted free agent. He has said he will not give Washington a hometown discount. With the emergence of Jordan Crawford, it seems unlikely that Washington will match anyone who overbids.
I’m a big fan of Nick Young’s game. I like his aggressiveness, ability to shoot off the dribble, handle the basketball, and get to the line…but I do think playing on a bad team inflated his numbers. I think some GM will probably offer to overpay him and Washington won’t match.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:46am #593743

JoeWolf1John Wall is the real deal, I think he’ll be the next young player to average 20 and 10(assists that is), I think D-Rose is still the better player, but Wall’s game is more built to get 10 apg.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:46am #593775

JoeWolf1John Wall is the real deal, I think he’ll be the next young player to average 20 and 10(assists that is), I think D-Rose is still the better player, but Wall’s game is more built to get 10 apg.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:46am #593304

JoeWolf1John Wall is the real deal, I think he’ll be the next young player to average 20 and 10(assists that is), I think D-Rose is still the better player, but Wall’s game is more built to get 10 apg.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:53am #593746
orangeshadow83ParticipantI think Wall will be the best pg in the league in 2-3 years, I think him and Rose will be widely considered the top two if they keep improving their game. The reason I think Wall will be the better pg is solely due to his playmaking abilities. Rose will score more but wall will get more assists and make his teamates better. I know Paul Rondo and Williams will still be great pgs but I see rose and wall being clearly the top two as long as they keep working hard to improve their game.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:53am #593778
orangeshadow83ParticipantI think Wall will be the best pg in the league in 2-3 years, I think him and Rose will be widely considered the top two if they keep improving their game. The reason I think Wall will be the better pg is solely due to his playmaking abilities. Rose will score more but wall will get more assists and make his teamates better. I know Paul Rondo and Williams will still be great pgs but I see rose and wall being clearly the top two as long as they keep working hard to improve their game.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:53am #593307
orangeshadow83ParticipantI think Wall will be the best pg in the league in 2-3 years, I think him and Rose will be widely considered the top two if they keep improving their game. The reason I think Wall will be the better pg is solely due to his playmaking abilities. Rose will score more but wall will get more assists and make his teamates better. I know Paul Rondo and Williams will still be great pgs but I see rose and wall being clearly the top two as long as they keep working hard to improve their game.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:08am #593755

WizardofOzParticipantI think Wall’s health has been overlooked in regards to his performance last season. He was really a different player at the beginning of the season and was never quite right physically. It’s stunning that he still put up 16, 8 & 4, had one of the best seasons ever for a rookie PG and he wasn’t even close to a 100% phyiscally for MOST of the season. I think Wall’s true level of performance is closer to what we saw at the very beginning of last year. Like I said even before the Wizards drafted Wall, I think he’s a generational talent with the chance to be one of the best PGs of all time.
It wouldn’t shock me if he takes a huge leap next season. 20, 10 & 5 is definitely not out the question, especailly if he can maintain good health.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:08am #593787

WizardofOzParticipantI think Wall’s health has been overlooked in regards to his performance last season. He was really a different player at the beginning of the season and was never quite right physically. It’s stunning that he still put up 16, 8 & 4, had one of the best seasons ever for a rookie PG and he wasn’t even close to a 100% phyiscally for MOST of the season. I think Wall’s true level of performance is closer to what we saw at the very beginning of last year. Like I said even before the Wizards drafted Wall, I think he’s a generational talent with the chance to be one of the best PGs of all time.
It wouldn’t shock me if he takes a huge leap next season. 20, 10 & 5 is definitely not out the question, especailly if he can maintain good health.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:08am #593316

WizardofOzParticipantI think Wall’s health has been overlooked in regards to his performance last season. He was really a different player at the beginning of the season and was never quite right physically. It’s stunning that he still put up 16, 8 & 4, had one of the best seasons ever for a rookie PG and he wasn’t even close to a 100% phyiscally for MOST of the season. I think Wall’s true level of performance is closer to what we saw at the very beginning of last year. Like I said even before the Wizards drafted Wall, I think he’s a generational talent with the chance to be one of the best PGs of all time.
It wouldn’t shock me if he takes a huge leap next season. 20, 10 & 5 is definitely not out the question, especailly if he can maintain good health.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:13am #593836
Andrew1984ParticipantWhile I understand how good Derrick Rose and John Wall are, I am going to make an unpopular argument: I think Kyrie Irving will be better than both of them. Here’s why:
Rose and Wall possess blinding speed. But players who thrive on their speed tend to struggle with recklessness, being out of control too often, struggling to shoot a balanced shot, and they often miss open players because they’re just going to fast to see them and make a good pass. In a strange way, they’re almost too fast for their own good. Then, once they get into their late 20s and early 30s, the blinding speed loses and step and they’re left with shooting and passing skills that leave a little bit to be desired.
Yes, Derrick Rose was the MVP, and yes, I know John Wall went for about 16 and 8 on a gimpy foot. I’m not minimizing that. They are unbelievable players.
That’s why I’m so high on Kyrie Irving. He’s a step slower than Rose and Wall, but that’s why he’s so good! He’s never out of control, he’s always balanced on his shot, and he never misses open players. Being that one step slower lets him be a more cerebral player. He’s still quick enough to blow past defenders, but he’s not so quick that he becomes reckless. In 10 years, when he starts to lose some of the speed that he does have, the consistent shot and all the solid fundamental skills will still be there to carry him.
I think Rose and Wall are slashing, scoring guards who can also handle the ball and rack up assists. I think Irving is an unselfish lead guard with outstanding vision, strength, body control, and can also score, and has a much purer stroke than either Rose or Wall did at age 18-19.
I know it sounds crazy now, but let’s revisit this conversation in about 2016!
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:13am #593867
Andrew1984ParticipantWhile I understand how good Derrick Rose and John Wall are, I am going to make an unpopular argument: I think Kyrie Irving will be better than both of them. Here’s why:
Rose and Wall possess blinding speed. But players who thrive on their speed tend to struggle with recklessness, being out of control too often, struggling to shoot a balanced shot, and they often miss open players because they’re just going to fast to see them and make a good pass. In a strange way, they’re almost too fast for their own good. Then, once they get into their late 20s and early 30s, the blinding speed loses and step and they’re left with shooting and passing skills that leave a little bit to be desired.
Yes, Derrick Rose was the MVP, and yes, I know John Wall went for about 16 and 8 on a gimpy foot. I’m not minimizing that. They are unbelievable players.
That’s why I’m so high on Kyrie Irving. He’s a step slower than Rose and Wall, but that’s why he’s so good! He’s never out of control, he’s always balanced on his shot, and he never misses open players. Being that one step slower lets him be a more cerebral player. He’s still quick enough to blow past defenders, but he’s not so quick that he becomes reckless. In 10 years, when he starts to lose some of the speed that he does have, the consistent shot and all the solid fundamental skills will still be there to carry him.
I think Rose and Wall are slashing, scoring guards who can also handle the ball and rack up assists. I think Irving is an unselfish lead guard with outstanding vision, strength, body control, and can also score, and has a much purer stroke than either Rose or Wall did at age 18-19.
I know it sounds crazy now, but let’s revisit this conversation in about 2016!
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:13am #593397
Andrew1984ParticipantWhile I understand how good Derrick Rose and John Wall are, I am going to make an unpopular argument: I think Kyrie Irving will be better than both of them. Here’s why:
Rose and Wall possess blinding speed. But players who thrive on their speed tend to struggle with recklessness, being out of control too often, struggling to shoot a balanced shot, and they often miss open players because they’re just going to fast to see them and make a good pass. In a strange way, they’re almost too fast for their own good. Then, once they get into their late 20s and early 30s, the blinding speed loses and step and they’re left with shooting and passing skills that leave a little bit to be desired.
Yes, Derrick Rose was the MVP, and yes, I know John Wall went for about 16 and 8 on a gimpy foot. I’m not minimizing that. They are unbelievable players.
That’s why I’m so high on Kyrie Irving. He’s a step slower than Rose and Wall, but that’s why he’s so good! He’s never out of control, he’s always balanced on his shot, and he never misses open players. Being that one step slower lets him be a more cerebral player. He’s still quick enough to blow past defenders, but he’s not so quick that he becomes reckless. In 10 years, when he starts to lose some of the speed that he does have, the consistent shot and all the solid fundamental skills will still be there to carry him.
I think Rose and Wall are slashing, scoring guards who can also handle the ball and rack up assists. I think Irving is an unselfish lead guard with outstanding vision, strength, body control, and can also score, and has a much purer stroke than either Rose or Wall did at age 18-19.
I know it sounds crazy now, but let’s revisit this conversation in about 2016!
0- Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:38am #593409

WizardofOzParticipantThat’s not out of the realm of possibility. A lot of the things you say in that post are true. I even saw a detailed post from a Wizards fan on RealGM.com that was written earlier in the season talking about how poor John Wall’s handles are for a PG. He even talks about his poor defense later in the post.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1080340&sid=a238d778c3a6265cde13a75b01feb178
I whoheartedly agree with what this guy says, even though he’s wrong for thinking Wall should’ve learned everything on the spot (he was pretty raw coming out of college).
But he has all the tools to become MVP-caliber. Him being as raw as he was and still putting up very good numbers while playing injured shows you just how great he can become if he works on his weaknesses.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:38am #593848

WizardofOzParticipantThat’s not out of the realm of possibility. A lot of the things you say in that post are true. I even saw a detailed post from a Wizards fan on RealGM.com that was written earlier in the season talking about how poor John Wall’s handles are for a PG. He even talks about his poor defense later in the post.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1080340&sid=a238d778c3a6265cde13a75b01feb178
I whoheartedly agree with what this guy says, even though he’s wrong for thinking Wall should’ve learned everything on the spot (he was pretty raw coming out of college).
But he has all the tools to become MVP-caliber. Him being as raw as he was and still putting up very good numbers while playing injured shows you just how great he can become if he works on his weaknesses.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:38am #593878

WizardofOzParticipantThat’s not out of the realm of possibility. A lot of the things you say in that post are true. I even saw a detailed post from a Wizards fan on RealGM.com that was written earlier in the season talking about how poor John Wall’s handles are for a PG. He even talks about his poor defense later in the post.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1080340&sid=a238d778c3a6265cde13a75b01feb178
I whoheartedly agree with what this guy says, even though he’s wrong for thinking Wall should’ve learned everything on the spot (he was pretty raw coming out of college).
But he has all the tools to become MVP-caliber. Him being as raw as he was and still putting up very good numbers while playing injured shows you just how great he can become if he works on his weaknesses.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:24am #593842

RUDEBOY_ParticipantYeah,the 1st few games of last season,it looked like it was going to be a 2 man Race for Rookie of the Year..But after Wall got injured and return ,he didnt look the same…Hopefully he’s improved his jumper and work on his half-court game….
But it wouldnt surprise me a Bit ,if Wall makes the 2nd or 3rd Team All NBA Next season….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:24am #593873

RUDEBOY_ParticipantYeah,the 1st few games of last season,it looked like it was going to be a 2 man Race for Rookie of the Year..But after Wall got injured and return ,he didnt look the same…Hopefully he’s improved his jumper and work on his half-court game….
But it wouldnt surprise me a Bit ,if Wall makes the 2nd or 3rd Team All NBA Next season….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:24am #593403

RUDEBOY_ParticipantYeah,the 1st few games of last season,it looked like it was going to be a 2 man Race for Rookie of the Year..But after Wall got injured and return ,he didnt look the same…Hopefully he’s improved his jumper and work on his half-court game….
But it wouldnt surprise me a Bit ,if Wall makes the 2nd or 3rd Team All NBA Next season….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:27am #593845

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt will be nice if Wall can make a shot that isn’t a layup or dunk this year. He will be as good as that shot allows, though carrying that bunch of bums in Washington is going to be no easy task.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:27am #593876

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt will be nice if Wall can make a shot that isn’t a layup or dunk this year. He will be as good as that shot allows, though carrying that bunch of bums in Washington is going to be no easy task.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:27am #593406

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt will be nice if Wall can make a shot that isn’t a layup or dunk this year. He will be as good as that shot allows, though carrying that bunch of bums in Washington is going to be no easy task.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:23am #593442

Bmore_DCParticipantaveraging 8 assists on that bad of a team is insane…look for wall to average 20-10-5 for a long time
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:23am #593883

Bmore_DCParticipantaveraging 8 assists on that bad of a team is insane…look for wall to average 20-10-5 for a long time
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:23am #593911

Bmore_DCParticipantaveraging 8 assists on that bad of a team is insane…look for wall to average 20-10-5 for a long time
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