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  • #32734
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    If you were the Bulls, what would you sacrafice to get Kevin Martin??  The guy is the perfect fit with Rose..

    Is there any way to get him in Chicago??

    If he could be put in the linup without sacraficing a starter, this could make the team unstoppable..

    Rose
    Martin
    Deng
    Boozer
    Noah

    That is a crazy linup.

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  • #592710
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    Chewy
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    Everyone wants Noah and he is almost as untouchable as Rose

    Noone wants Boozer and his contract, attitude, injuries ect

    Everyone wants Taj because he is a great back up still on the rookie scale

    Noone wants Deng because of his over paid contract

    The Bulls roster has little to no flexibility considered that the only peices they are willing to give up are the pieces noone wants

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  • #592741
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    Chewy
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    Everyone wants Noah and he is almost as untouchable as Rose

    Noone wants Boozer and his contract, attitude, injuries ect

    Everyone wants Taj because he is a great back up still on the rookie scale

    Noone wants Deng because of his over paid contract

    The Bulls roster has little to no flexibility considered that the only peices they are willing to give up are the pieces noone wants

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  • #592273
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    Chewy
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    Everyone wants Noah and he is almost as untouchable as Rose

    Noone wants Boozer and his contract, attitude, injuries ect

    Everyone wants Taj because he is a great back up still on the rookie scale

    Noone wants Deng because of his over paid contract

    The Bulls roster has little to no flexibility considered that the only peices they are willing to give up are the pieces noone wants

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  • #592717
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    I don’t think Martin is a perfect fit in Chicago. He can’t play a lick of defence and will get in Thibodeau’s doghouse in a hurry. I think Arron Afflalo or OJ Mayo would be better fits.

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  • #592747
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    I don’t think Martin is a perfect fit in Chicago. He can’t play a lick of defence and will get in Thibodeau’s doghouse in a hurry. I think Arron Afflalo or OJ Mayo would be better fits.

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  • #592279
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    I don’t think Martin is a perfect fit in Chicago. He can’t play a lick of defence and will get in Thibodeau’s doghouse in a hurry. I think Arron Afflalo or OJ Mayo would be better fits.

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    • #592933
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      Chicago1980
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       I totally agree with that Martin doesnt play any defense at all and it is definitely not a good fit. I agree Affalo/Mayo would be better fits especially affalo he can hit open shots and he plays pretty good D.

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    • #592964
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       I totally agree with that Martin doesnt play any defense at all and it is definitely not a good fit. I agree Affalo/Mayo would be better fits especially affalo he can hit open shots and he plays pretty good D.

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    • #592495
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       I totally agree with that Martin doesnt play any defense at all and it is definitely not a good fit. I agree Affalo/Mayo would be better fits especially affalo he can hit open shots and he plays pretty good D.

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  • #592720
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    sammybuckeye13
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    I don’t think he’s a perfect fit either. I agree with ItsDwight, they need someone who can score and play D, and there’s no way they can get Martin without giving up a starter (and offering draft picks will be of no use to Houston as they have a whole team young guys vying for PT). Afflalo, Smith or JRich could give you the necessary 5-8 ppg-improvement on Bogans at half the cost of Martin.

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  • #592750
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    sammybuckeye13
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    I don’t think he’s a perfect fit either. I agree with ItsDwight, they need someone who can score and play D, and there’s no way they can get Martin without giving up a starter (and offering draft picks will be of no use to Houston as they have a whole team young guys vying for PT). Afflalo, Smith or JRich could give you the necessary 5-8 ppg-improvement on Bogans at half the cost of Martin.

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  • #592282
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    sammybuckeye13
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    I don’t think he’s a perfect fit either. I agree with ItsDwight, they need someone who can score and play D, and there’s no way they can get Martin without giving up a starter (and offering draft picks will be of no use to Houston as they have a whole team young guys vying for PT). Afflalo, Smith or JRich could give you the necessary 5-8 ppg-improvement on Bogans at half the cost of Martin.

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  • #592723
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    aamir543
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    The only piece that Houston would even consider is Taj Gibson, and Houston is already log jammed at the 4, so I don’t see this going down.

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  • #592753
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    aamir543
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    The only piece that Houston would even consider is Taj Gibson, and Houston is already log jammed at the 4, so I don’t see this going down.

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  • #592285
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    The only piece that Houston would even consider is Taj Gibson, and Houston is already log jammed at the 4, so I don’t see this going down.

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  • #592732
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     I also agree with ItsDwightHoward. OJ Mayo and Aaron Afflalo would be much better fits an probably cheaper. Kevin Martin is a lilttle over valued imo. Yes he can score but he doesn’t defend an he hasn’t made any team he’s been on better. There’s few guys that can go get you 20-25 points a night an it doesn’t matter in the Win/Loss column an he’s 1 of them. Sacramento he was good although it was on a bad team but he never made them better. And in Houston yes he gets buckets but they were still a lottery team. I would prefer a younger guy such as Mayo or Afflalo, but if i was to go after a older player it would be Jason Richardson.

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  • #592762
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     I also agree with ItsDwightHoward. OJ Mayo and Aaron Afflalo would be much better fits an probably cheaper. Kevin Martin is a lilttle over valued imo. Yes he can score but he doesn’t defend an he hasn’t made any team he’s been on better. There’s few guys that can go get you 20-25 points a night an it doesn’t matter in the Win/Loss column an he’s 1 of them. Sacramento he was good although it was on a bad team but he never made them better. And in Houston yes he gets buckets but they were still a lottery team. I would prefer a younger guy such as Mayo or Afflalo, but if i was to go after a older player it would be Jason Richardson.

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  • #592294
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     I also agree with ItsDwightHoward. OJ Mayo and Aaron Afflalo would be much better fits an probably cheaper. Kevin Martin is a lilttle over valued imo. Yes he can score but he doesn’t defend an he hasn’t made any team he’s been on better. There’s few guys that can go get you 20-25 points a night an it doesn’t matter in the Win/Loss column an he’s 1 of them. Sacramento he was good although it was on a bad team but he never made them better. And in Houston yes he gets buckets but they were still a lottery team. I would prefer a younger guy such as Mayo or Afflalo, but if i was to go after a older player it would be Jason Richardson.

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  • #592755
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    Malik-Universal
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     wtf??

    how would houston give up a 23-24 point scorer for merely bench guys??

    of course the bulls would have to incoporate some starters to get martin.. but they shouldnt cuz the only thing he does is score and his d isnt good…

    if they get affalo or even oj mayo… the bulls r destined for a ring

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  • #592783
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    Malik-Universal
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     wtf??

    how would houston give up a 23-24 point scorer for merely bench guys??

    of course the bulls would have to incoporate some starters to get martin.. but they shouldnt cuz the only thing he does is score and his d isnt good…

    if they get affalo or even oj mayo… the bulls r destined for a ring

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  • #592315
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    Malik-Universal
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     wtf??

    how would houston give up a 23-24 point scorer for merely bench guys??

    of course the bulls would have to incoporate some starters to get martin.. but they shouldnt cuz the only thing he does is score and his d isnt good…

    if they get affalo or even oj mayo… the bulls r destined for a ring

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  • #592785
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    Platypus
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     Gibson, Brewer, Bogans, and a 1st round draft pick for Collison, Robinson, and Sefolosha

    OKC: get a big who can score off the bench and gives room for harden to start and gives them a shooter off the bench at the 2 and a defender off the bench to back up durant

    Westbrook – Harden – Durant – Ibaka – Perkins

    Maynor – Bogans – Brewer – Gibson – Mohammed

    CHI: gets a defender who can shoot and is underrated, a better bench point guard, and some more experience

    Rose – Sefolosha – Deng – Boozer – Noah

    Nate – Korver – Butler – Collison – Asik

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  • #592812
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    Platypus
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     Gibson, Brewer, Bogans, and a 1st round draft pick for Collison, Robinson, and Sefolosha

    OKC: get a big who can score off the bench and gives room for harden to start and gives them a shooter off the bench at the 2 and a defender off the bench to back up durant

    Westbrook – Harden – Durant – Ibaka – Perkins

    Maynor – Bogans – Brewer – Gibson – Mohammed

    CHI: gets a defender who can shoot and is underrated, a better bench point guard, and some more experience

    Rose – Sefolosha – Deng – Boozer – Noah

    Nate – Korver – Butler – Collison – Asik

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  • #592345
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    Platypus
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     Gibson, Brewer, Bogans, and a 1st round draft pick for Collison, Robinson, and Sefolosha

    OKC: get a big who can score off the bench and gives room for harden to start and gives them a shooter off the bench at the 2 and a defender off the bench to back up durant

    Westbrook – Harden – Durant – Ibaka – Perkins

    Maynor – Bogans – Brewer – Gibson – Mohammed

    CHI: gets a defender who can shoot and is underrated, a better bench point guard, and some more experience

    Rose – Sefolosha – Deng – Boozer – Noah

    Nate – Korver – Butler – Collison – Asik

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  • #592794
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    iguapops420
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     ^^Not terrible, but Sefalosha is no better offensively than Brewer IMO. 

    @8, Nah, not sure a bout K-MArtz joining the Bulls, he’s not really defensively good enough to play with chitown. though offensively he’s a terric match with rose as he can get his 20ppg without taking the ball out of Rose’s hands. Stil, nowhere near good enough defensively at his contract for Thibbs.

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  • #592821
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    iguapops420
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     ^^Not terrible, but Sefalosha is no better offensively than Brewer IMO. 

    @8, Nah, not sure a bout K-MArtz joining the Bulls, he’s not really defensively good enough to play with chitown. though offensively he’s a terric match with rose as he can get his 20ppg without taking the ball out of Rose’s hands. Stil, nowhere near good enough defensively at his contract for Thibbs.

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  • #592354
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    iguapops420
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     ^^Not terrible, but Sefalosha is no better offensively than Brewer IMO. 

    @8, Nah, not sure a bout K-MArtz joining the Bulls, he’s not really defensively good enough to play with chitown. though offensively he’s a terric match with rose as he can get his 20ppg without taking the ball out of Rose’s hands. Stil, nowhere near good enough defensively at his contract for Thibbs.

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  • #592800
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I like McBasketballGuru’s idea on the Bulls.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/chicago-bulls-must-rebuild

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  • #592828
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I like McBasketballGuru’s idea on the Bulls.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/chicago-bulls-must-rebuild

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  • #592360
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I like McBasketballGuru’s idea on the Bulls.

    http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/chicago-bulls-must-rebuild

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  • #592803
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    Platypus
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     while getting ante they can play him with Rose at the end of the game unless they need that lock down defender which is thabo

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  • #592831
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    Platypus
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     while getting ante they can play him with Rose at the end of the game unless they need that lock down defender which is thabo

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  • #592363
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    Platypus
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     while getting ante they can play him with Rose at the end of the game unless they need that lock down defender which is thabo

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  • #592819
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    Penny Jr.
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    If I were the Bulls I wouldnt listen to you lmao

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  • #592846
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    Penny Jr.
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    If I were the Bulls I wouldnt listen to you lmao

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  • #592378
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    Penny Jr.
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    If I were the Bulls I wouldnt listen to you lmao

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  • #592822
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    mwalling2117
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    Ha, best forum topic ever.  I really want it to get to -150.

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  • #592849
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    mwalling2117
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    Ha, best forum topic ever.  I really want it to get to -150.

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  • #592381
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    mwalling2117
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    Ha, best forum topic ever.  I really want it to get to -150.

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  • #592939
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    IndianaBasketball
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    When did Mayo become good at defense?

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  • #592970
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    IndianaBasketball
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    When did Mayo become good at defense?

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  • #592501
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    IndianaBasketball
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    When did Mayo become good at defense?

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  • #592945
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    ghrghr
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    Martin wouldn’t be a perfect fit, but I still rather have him than Chicago’s 3 man rotation at SG. Good team defense can hide a player’s bad defense and playing for a winning team could motivate Martin to play better D. Martin wouldn’t need the offense to be run for him and would give Chicago one more player who can create his own shot.

    Mayo is at least a decent defender. He played pretty good D last season’s playoffs. Memphis would welcome Asik as a backup center(a team need), if Chicago can give more pieces and draft picks a trade for Mayo could happen. As a Memphis fan, if Xavier Henry is able to hit the 3 and play 20 minutes a night I would strongly think about moving Mayo. Resigning him would be nearly impossible, so trading him may be the only way.

     

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  • #592976
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    ghrghr
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    Martin wouldn’t be a perfect fit, but I still rather have him than Chicago’s 3 man rotation at SG. Good team defense can hide a player’s bad defense and playing for a winning team could motivate Martin to play better D. Martin wouldn’t need the offense to be run for him and would give Chicago one more player who can create his own shot.

    Mayo is at least a decent defender. He played pretty good D last season’s playoffs. Memphis would welcome Asik as a backup center(a team need), if Chicago can give more pieces and draft picks a trade for Mayo could happen. As a Memphis fan, if Xavier Henry is able to hit the 3 and play 20 minutes a night I would strongly think about moving Mayo. Resigning him would be nearly impossible, so trading him may be the only way.

     

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  • #592507
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    ghrghr
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    Martin wouldn’t be a perfect fit, but I still rather have him than Chicago’s 3 man rotation at SG. Good team defense can hide a player’s bad defense and playing for a winning team could motivate Martin to play better D. Martin wouldn’t need the offense to be run for him and would give Chicago one more player who can create his own shot.

    Mayo is at least a decent defender. He played pretty good D last season’s playoffs. Memphis would welcome Asik as a backup center(a team need), if Chicago can give more pieces and draft picks a trade for Mayo could happen. As a Memphis fan, if Xavier Henry is able to hit the 3 and play 20 minutes a night I would strongly think about moving Mayo. Resigning him would be nearly impossible, so trading him may be the only way.

     

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  • #592957
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    joecheck88
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    ya, kevin martin would fit in beautifully with chicago. no, he isnt a great defender but they have team defense and i am sure the culture there would atleast make him try harder on that end. i mean i like arron affalo but he isnt go to go out and get you 20 per game with the ball in his hands. that is waht the bulls really need, a guy that d rose can count on to get 22 to 23 points a game. their defense would still be good, they need another scorer BAD!!

     

    That being said, the Bulls have nothing the Rockets want that the Bulls would give up. So that probably wont happen.

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  • #592988
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    joecheck88
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    ya, kevin martin would fit in beautifully with chicago. no, he isnt a great defender but they have team defense and i am sure the culture there would atleast make him try harder on that end. i mean i like arron affalo but he isnt go to go out and get you 20 per game with the ball in his hands. that is waht the bulls really need, a guy that d rose can count on to get 22 to 23 points a game. their defense would still be good, they need another scorer BAD!!

     

    That being said, the Bulls have nothing the Rockets want that the Bulls would give up. So that probably wont happen.

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  • #592519
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    joecheck88
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    ya, kevin martin would fit in beautifully with chicago. no, he isnt a great defender but they have team defense and i am sure the culture there would atleast make him try harder on that end. i mean i like arron affalo but he isnt go to go out and get you 20 per game with the ball in his hands. that is waht the bulls really need, a guy that d rose can count on to get 22 to 23 points a game. their defense would still be good, they need another scorer BAD!!

     

    That being said, the Bulls have nothing the Rockets want that the Bulls would give up. So that probably wont happen.

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  • #593257
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     Kevin Martin is a no-no on my team man… I know he can score but with reasons already stated by ItsDwightHoward alone is enough for me to be convinced that he is not a Thibodeau guy…

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     Kevin Martin is a no-no on my team man… I know he can score but with reasons already stated by ItsDwightHoward alone is enough for me to be convinced that he is not a Thibodeau guy…

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  • #592817
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     Kevin Martin is a no-no on my team man… I know he can score but with reasons already stated by ItsDwightHoward alone is enough for me to be convinced that he is not a Thibodeau guy…

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