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- Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:52am #32734

The8thDeadlySinParticipantIf you were the Bulls, what would you sacrafice to get Kevin Martin?? The guy is the perfect fit with Rose..
Is there any way to get him in Chicago??
If he could be put in the linup without sacraficing a starter, this could make the team unstoppable..
Rose
Martin
Deng
Boozer
NoahThat is a crazy linup.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:57am #592710

ChewyParticipantEveryone wants Noah and he is almost as untouchable as Rose
Noone wants Boozer and his contract, attitude, injuries ect
Everyone wants Taj because he is a great back up still on the rookie scale
Noone wants Deng because of his over paid contract
The Bulls roster has little to no flexibility considered that the only peices they are willing to give up are the pieces noone wants
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:57am #592741

ChewyParticipantEveryone wants Noah and he is almost as untouchable as Rose
Noone wants Boozer and his contract, attitude, injuries ect
Everyone wants Taj because he is a great back up still on the rookie scale
Noone wants Deng because of his over paid contract
The Bulls roster has little to no flexibility considered that the only peices they are willing to give up are the pieces noone wants
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:57am #592273

ChewyParticipantEveryone wants Noah and he is almost as untouchable as Rose
Noone wants Boozer and his contract, attitude, injuries ect
Everyone wants Taj because he is a great back up still on the rookie scale
Noone wants Deng because of his over paid contract
The Bulls roster has little to no flexibility considered that the only peices they are willing to give up are the pieces noone wants
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:04pm #592717

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantI don’t think Martin is a perfect fit in Chicago. He can’t play a lick of defence and will get in Thibodeau’s doghouse in a hurry. I think Arron Afflalo or OJ Mayo would be better fits.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:04pm #592747

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantI don’t think Martin is a perfect fit in Chicago. He can’t play a lick of defence and will get in Thibodeau’s doghouse in a hurry. I think Arron Afflalo or OJ Mayo would be better fits.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:04pm #592279

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantI don’t think Martin is a perfect fit in Chicago. He can’t play a lick of defence and will get in Thibodeau’s doghouse in a hurry. I think Arron Afflalo or OJ Mayo would be better fits.
0- Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:10am #592933

Chicago1980ParticipantI totally agree with that Martin doesnt play any defense at all and it is definitely not a good fit. I agree Affalo/Mayo would be better fits especially affalo he can hit open shots and he plays pretty good D.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:10am #592964

Chicago1980ParticipantI totally agree with that Martin doesnt play any defense at all and it is definitely not a good fit. I agree Affalo/Mayo would be better fits especially affalo he can hit open shots and he plays pretty good D.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:10am #592495

Chicago1980ParticipantI totally agree with that Martin doesnt play any defense at all and it is definitely not a good fit. I agree Affalo/Mayo would be better fits especially affalo he can hit open shots and he plays pretty good D.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:12pm #592720

sammybuckeye13ParticipantI don’t think he’s a perfect fit either. I agree with ItsDwight, they need someone who can score and play D, and there’s no way they can get Martin without giving up a starter (and offering draft picks will be of no use to Houston as they have a whole team young guys vying for PT). Afflalo, Smith or JRich could give you the necessary 5-8 ppg-improvement on Bogans at half the cost of Martin.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:12pm #592750

sammybuckeye13ParticipantI don’t think he’s a perfect fit either. I agree with ItsDwight, they need someone who can score and play D, and there’s no way they can get Martin without giving up a starter (and offering draft picks will be of no use to Houston as they have a whole team young guys vying for PT). Afflalo, Smith or JRich could give you the necessary 5-8 ppg-improvement on Bogans at half the cost of Martin.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:12pm #592282

sammybuckeye13ParticipantI don’t think he’s a perfect fit either. I agree with ItsDwight, they need someone who can score and play D, and there’s no way they can get Martin without giving up a starter (and offering draft picks will be of no use to Houston as they have a whole team young guys vying for PT). Afflalo, Smith or JRich could give you the necessary 5-8 ppg-improvement on Bogans at half the cost of Martin.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:16pm #592723
aamir543ParticipantThe only piece that Houston would even consider is Taj Gibson, and Houston is already log jammed at the 4, so I don’t see this going down.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:16pm #592753
aamir543ParticipantThe only piece that Houston would even consider is Taj Gibson, and Houston is already log jammed at the 4, so I don’t see this going down.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:16pm #592285
aamir543ParticipantThe only piece that Houston would even consider is Taj Gibson, and Houston is already log jammed at the 4, so I don’t see this going down.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:33pm #592732
Cardinal_FanParticipantI also agree with ItsDwightHoward. OJ Mayo and Aaron Afflalo would be much better fits an probably cheaper. Kevin Martin is a lilttle over valued imo. Yes he can score but he doesn’t defend an he hasn’t made any team he’s been on better. There’s few guys that can go get you 20-25 points a night an it doesn’t matter in the Win/Loss column an he’s 1 of them. Sacramento he was good although it was on a bad team but he never made them better. And in Houston yes he gets buckets but they were still a lottery team. I would prefer a younger guy such as Mayo or Afflalo, but if i was to go after a older player it would be Jason Richardson.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:33pm #592762
Cardinal_FanParticipantI also agree with ItsDwightHoward. OJ Mayo and Aaron Afflalo would be much better fits an probably cheaper. Kevin Martin is a lilttle over valued imo. Yes he can score but he doesn’t defend an he hasn’t made any team he’s been on better. There’s few guys that can go get you 20-25 points a night an it doesn’t matter in the Win/Loss column an he’s 1 of them. Sacramento he was good although it was on a bad team but he never made them better. And in Houston yes he gets buckets but they were still a lottery team. I would prefer a younger guy such as Mayo or Afflalo, but if i was to go after a older player it would be Jason Richardson.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:33pm #592294
Cardinal_FanParticipantI also agree with ItsDwightHoward. OJ Mayo and Aaron Afflalo would be much better fits an probably cheaper. Kevin Martin is a lilttle over valued imo. Yes he can score but he doesn’t defend an he hasn’t made any team he’s been on better. There’s few guys that can go get you 20-25 points a night an it doesn’t matter in the Win/Loss column an he’s 1 of them. Sacramento he was good although it was on a bad team but he never made them better. And in Houston yes he gets buckets but they were still a lottery team. I would prefer a younger guy such as Mayo or Afflalo, but if i was to go after a older player it would be Jason Richardson.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:54pm #592755

Malik-UniversalParticipantwtf??
how would houston give up a 23-24 point scorer for merely bench guys??
of course the bulls would have to incoporate some starters to get martin.. but they shouldnt cuz the only thing he does is score and his d isnt good…
if they get affalo or even oj mayo… the bulls r destined for a ring
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:54pm #592783

Malik-UniversalParticipantwtf??
how would houston give up a 23-24 point scorer for merely bench guys??
of course the bulls would have to incoporate some starters to get martin.. but they shouldnt cuz the only thing he does is score and his d isnt good…
if they get affalo or even oj mayo… the bulls r destined for a ring
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:54pm #592315

Malik-UniversalParticipantwtf??
how would houston give up a 23-24 point scorer for merely bench guys??
of course the bulls would have to incoporate some starters to get martin.. but they shouldnt cuz the only thing he does is score and his d isnt good…
if they get affalo or even oj mayo… the bulls r destined for a ring
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:38pm #592785

PlatypusParticipantGibson, Brewer, Bogans, and a 1st round draft pick for Collison, Robinson, and Sefolosha
OKC: get a big who can score off the bench and gives room for harden to start and gives them a shooter off the bench at the 2 and a defender off the bench to back up durant
Westbrook – Harden – Durant – Ibaka – Perkins
Maynor – Bogans – Brewer – Gibson – Mohammed
CHI: gets a defender who can shoot and is underrated, a better bench point guard, and some more experience
Rose – Sefolosha – Deng – Boozer – Noah
Nate – Korver – Butler – Collison – Asik
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:38pm #592812

PlatypusParticipantGibson, Brewer, Bogans, and a 1st round draft pick for Collison, Robinson, and Sefolosha
OKC: get a big who can score off the bench and gives room for harden to start and gives them a shooter off the bench at the 2 and a defender off the bench to back up durant
Westbrook – Harden – Durant – Ibaka – Perkins
Maynor – Bogans – Brewer – Gibson – Mohammed
CHI: gets a defender who can shoot and is underrated, a better bench point guard, and some more experience
Rose – Sefolosha – Deng – Boozer – Noah
Nate – Korver – Butler – Collison – Asik
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:38pm #592345

PlatypusParticipantGibson, Brewer, Bogans, and a 1st round draft pick for Collison, Robinson, and Sefolosha
OKC: get a big who can score off the bench and gives room for harden to start and gives them a shooter off the bench at the 2 and a defender off the bench to back up durant
Westbrook – Harden – Durant – Ibaka – Perkins
Maynor – Bogans – Brewer – Gibson – Mohammed
CHI: gets a defender who can shoot and is underrated, a better bench point guard, and some more experience
Rose – Sefolosha – Deng – Boozer – Noah
Nate – Korver – Butler – Collison – Asik
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:50pm #592794

iguapops420Participant^^Not terrible, but Sefalosha is no better offensively than Brewer IMO.
@8, Nah, not sure a bout K-MArtz joining the Bulls, he’s not really defensively good enough to play with chitown. though offensively he’s a terric match with rose as he can get his 20ppg without taking the ball out of Rose’s hands. Stil, nowhere near good enough defensively at his contract for Thibbs.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:50pm #592821

iguapops420Participant^^Not terrible, but Sefalosha is no better offensively than Brewer IMO.
@8, Nah, not sure a bout K-MArtz joining the Bulls, he’s not really defensively good enough to play with chitown. though offensively he’s a terric match with rose as he can get his 20ppg without taking the ball out of Rose’s hands. Stil, nowhere near good enough defensively at his contract for Thibbs.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:50pm #592354

iguapops420Participant^^Not terrible, but Sefalosha is no better offensively than Brewer IMO.
@8, Nah, not sure a bout K-MArtz joining the Bulls, he’s not really defensively good enough to play with chitown. though offensively he’s a terric match with rose as he can get his 20ppg without taking the ball out of Rose’s hands. Stil, nowhere near good enough defensively at his contract for Thibbs.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:21pm #592800

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI like McBasketballGuru’s idea on the Bulls.
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/chicago-bulls-must-rebuild
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:21pm #592828

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI like McBasketballGuru’s idea on the Bulls.
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/chicago-bulls-must-rebuild
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:21pm #592360

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI like McBasketballGuru’s idea on the Bulls.
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/chicago-bulls-must-rebuild
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:22pm #592803

PlatypusParticipantwhile getting ante they can play him with Rose at the end of the game unless they need that lock down defender which is thabo
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:22pm #592831

PlatypusParticipantwhile getting ante they can play him with Rose at the end of the game unless they need that lock down defender which is thabo
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:22pm #592363

PlatypusParticipantwhile getting ante they can play him with Rose at the end of the game unless they need that lock down defender which is thabo
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:23pm #592819
Penny Jr.ParticipantIf I were the Bulls I wouldnt listen to you lmao
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:23pm #592846
Penny Jr.ParticipantIf I were the Bulls I wouldnt listen to you lmao
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:23pm #592378
Penny Jr.ParticipantIf I were the Bulls I wouldnt listen to you lmao
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:27pm #592822

mwalling2117ParticipantHa, best forum topic ever. I really want it to get to -150.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:27pm #592849

mwalling2117ParticipantHa, best forum topic ever. I really want it to get to -150.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:27pm #592381

mwalling2117ParticipantHa, best forum topic ever. I really want it to get to -150.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:25am #592939

IndianaBasketballParticipantWhen did Mayo become good at defense?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:25am #592970

IndianaBasketballParticipantWhen did Mayo become good at defense?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:25am #592501

IndianaBasketballParticipantWhen did Mayo become good at defense?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:40am #592945
ghrghrParticipantMartin wouldn’t be a perfect fit, but I still rather have him than Chicago’s 3 man rotation at SG. Good team defense can hide a player’s bad defense and playing for a winning team could motivate Martin to play better D. Martin wouldn’t need the offense to be run for him and would give Chicago one more player who can create his own shot.
Mayo is at least a decent defender. He played pretty good D last season’s playoffs. Memphis would welcome Asik as a backup center(a team need), if Chicago can give more pieces and draft picks a trade for Mayo could happen. As a Memphis fan, if Xavier Henry is able to hit the 3 and play 20 minutes a night I would strongly think about moving Mayo. Resigning him would be nearly impossible, so trading him may be the only way.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:40am #592976
ghrghrParticipantMartin wouldn’t be a perfect fit, but I still rather have him than Chicago’s 3 man rotation at SG. Good team defense can hide a player’s bad defense and playing for a winning team could motivate Martin to play better D. Martin wouldn’t need the offense to be run for him and would give Chicago one more player who can create his own shot.
Mayo is at least a decent defender. He played pretty good D last season’s playoffs. Memphis would welcome Asik as a backup center(a team need), if Chicago can give more pieces and draft picks a trade for Mayo could happen. As a Memphis fan, if Xavier Henry is able to hit the 3 and play 20 minutes a night I would strongly think about moving Mayo. Resigning him would be nearly impossible, so trading him may be the only way.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:40am #592507
ghrghrParticipantMartin wouldn’t be a perfect fit, but I still rather have him than Chicago’s 3 man rotation at SG. Good team defense can hide a player’s bad defense and playing for a winning team could motivate Martin to play better D. Martin wouldn’t need the offense to be run for him and would give Chicago one more player who can create his own shot.
Mayo is at least a decent defender. He played pretty good D last season’s playoffs. Memphis would welcome Asik as a backup center(a team need), if Chicago can give more pieces and draft picks a trade for Mayo could happen. As a Memphis fan, if Xavier Henry is able to hit the 3 and play 20 minutes a night I would strongly think about moving Mayo. Resigning him would be nearly impossible, so trading him may be the only way.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:46am #592957
joecheck88Participantya, kevin martin would fit in beautifully with chicago. no, he isnt a great defender but they have team defense and i am sure the culture there would atleast make him try harder on that end. i mean i like arron affalo but he isnt go to go out and get you 20 per game with the ball in his hands. that is waht the bulls really need, a guy that d rose can count on to get 22 to 23 points a game. their defense would still be good, they need another scorer BAD!!
That being said, the Bulls have nothing the Rockets want that the Bulls would give up. So that probably wont happen.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:46am #592988
joecheck88Participantya, kevin martin would fit in beautifully with chicago. no, he isnt a great defender but they have team defense and i am sure the culture there would atleast make him try harder on that end. i mean i like arron affalo but he isnt go to go out and get you 20 per game with the ball in his hands. that is waht the bulls really need, a guy that d rose can count on to get 22 to 23 points a game. their defense would still be good, they need another scorer BAD!!
That being said, the Bulls have nothing the Rockets want that the Bulls would give up. So that probably wont happen.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:46am #592519
joecheck88Participantya, kevin martin would fit in beautifully with chicago. no, he isnt a great defender but they have team defense and i am sure the culture there would atleast make him try harder on that end. i mean i like arron affalo but he isnt go to go out and get you 20 per game with the ball in his hands. that is waht the bulls really need, a guy that d rose can count on to get 22 to 23 points a game. their defense would still be good, they need another scorer BAD!!
That being said, the Bulls have nothing the Rockets want that the Bulls would give up. So that probably wont happen.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:18pm #593257

marcusfizer21ParticipantKevin Martin is a no-no on my team man… I know he can score but with reasons already stated by ItsDwightHoward alone is enough for me to be convinced that he is not a Thibodeau guy…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:18pm #593288

marcusfizer21ParticipantKevin Martin is a no-no on my team man… I know he can score but with reasons already stated by ItsDwightHoward alone is enough for me to be convinced that he is not a Thibodeau guy…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:18pm #592817

marcusfizer21ParticipantKevin Martin is a no-no on my team man… I know he can score but with reasons already stated by ItsDwightHoward alone is enough for me to be convinced that he is not a Thibodeau guy…
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