High School Basketball STARTING 5 for 2011-12 season

How did Tyus Jones play varsity in 8th grade? I know he was good and all, but don’t you actually have to be in high school to be on a high school team?

How did Tyus Jones play varsity in 8th grade? I know he was good and all, but don’t you actually have to be in high school to be on a high school team?

tyus jones is in 8th grade???

he looks like hes 22 yrs old

tyus jones is in 8th grade???

he looks like hes 22 yrs old

 not even 22.. more like 25

 not even 22.. more like 25

If you play at a private(some)/prep school that has a middle school part of it you can play varsity as early as 6th grade. I heard that Tyreke Evans was the starting PG on his high school varsity for 6 years

If you play at a private(some)/prep school that has a middle school part of it you can play varsity as early as 6th grade. I heard that Tyreke Evans was the starting PG on his high school varsity for 6 years

i think the rule is if you are at a middle school that goes to the same high school you can play varsity as young as 6th.  Ive had teammates who started as an 8th grader.  Also, Tyus Jones is a reall reall good point guard.  I have played against him a few times.  The refs gave him a foul almost every time he drove to the hoop though.  He has been given the superstar treatment in Minnesota.   

i think the rule is if you are at a middle school that goes to the same high school you can play varsity as young as 6th.  Ive had teammates who started as an 8th grader.  Also, Tyus Jones is a reall reall good point guard.  I have played against him a few times.  The refs gave him a foul almost every time he drove to the hoop though.  He has been given the superstar treatment in Minnesota.   

i think the rule is if you are at a middle school that goes to the same high school you can play varsity as young as 6th.  Ive had teammates who started as an 8th grader.  Also, Tyus Jones is a reall reall good point guard.  I have played against him a few times.  The refs gave him a foul almost every time he drove to the hoop though.  He has been given the superstar treatment in Minnesota.   

i think the rule is if you are at a middle school that goes to the same high school you can play varsity as young as 6th.  Ive had teammates who started as an 8th grader.  Also, Tyus Jones is a reall reall good point guard.  I have played against him a few times.  The refs gave him a foul almost every time he drove to the hoop though.  He has been given the superstar treatment in Minnesota.   

Tweety Carter who used to play at Baylor a couple years back played varsity ball in 7th grade. O.J. Mayo did too.

Tweety Carter who used to play at Baylor a couple years back played varsity ball in 7th grade. O.J. Mayo did too.

These seem more like future predictions rather than predictions for this year. Yes, these players all are near the top of their class, but I have a feeling that as far as All-American accolades may be concerned, these guys may be taking a back seat to older, more experienced players. Paradigmn, I really like your enthusiasm, but I think that you might be getting a tad ahead of yourself with some of these rankings and lists. The King of doing that is Clark Francis, check his lists of glory out:

http://www.hoopscooponline.com/members/nationalplayerrankings.asp

Some of them you (and I) are not able to see unless we are members, but I was looking through them pretty intently. Well, lets just say, I think what Francis does is pretty gross for the most part, and he almost makes things into a soap opera with his insanely long lists of almost every name he could find. I am not saying you are like him, but maybe trying to give you a warning as to not necessarily hype the young guys before they have developed a little more fully. I like most of the players on your list, seems like they are some favorites for eventually being NBA prospects, but as 2011-12 All-Americans, I am not so sure. 

A few names you might want to consider, as far as a production standpoint in HS play is concerned:

PG Aquille Carr (Max Preps Sophomore of the Year this past season)

PF/C Tony Parker (Max Preps Junior of the Year this past season)

SF/PF Perry Ellis (Super Underrated, he will be an all most sure All-American)

SG Marcus Smart (Total baller, I am sure he will be not only a McDonald’s All-American, but on most 2011-12 All-American Teams)

PG/SG D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera (1st Team Junior All-American by Max Preps)

PF Ricardo Gathers (Undersized PF, just committed to St. John’s. He lead the EYBL in rebounding and should put up a monster senior year)

PG Yogi Ferrell

PF Amile Jefferson

PG Kasey Hill (Should more than likely have a better season than Dakari Johnson on the same HS team, Monteverde Academy. It is where Johnson is transferring, yes, from St. Patricks)

SF Xavier Johnson (Mater Dei is a big time school, he should be their leader once again)

SG/SF Katin Reinhardt (Another Mater Dei guy, should be in the running for All-American Honors)

PG J-Mychal Reese

PG/SG Phil Forte (Plays AAU and HS with Marcus Smart. They lead Marcus HS to a 38-1 record last season and were amongst the top HS teams in the nation. He can shoot the lights out. If you saw the Super 64 Finals, this kid can play.)

PG Tyler Lewis

SG Rasheed Sulaimon

SG Omar Calhoun

PF Brandon Ashley (He and Bennett should both put up major stats for Findlay)

PF/C Grant Jerrett

SF Justin Anderson

PG Ryan Arcidiacono

SG Gary Harris

SF Savon Goodman

C Daniel Ochefu

C Adam Woodbury

SF Jordan Tebbutt (Should have a really nice season at Oak Hill)

SG Jordan Adams

C Cameron Ridley

PF Chris Walker

These seem more like future predictions rather than predictions for this year. Yes, these players all are near the top of their class, but I have a feeling that as far as All-American accolades may be concerned, these guys may be taking a back seat to older, more experienced players. Paradigmn, I really like your enthusiasm, but I think that you might be getting a tad ahead of yourself with some of these rankings and lists. The King of doing that is Clark Francis, check his lists of glory out:

http://www.hoopscooponline.com/members/nationalplayerrankings.asp

Some of them you (and I) are not able to see unless we are members, but I was looking through them pretty intently. Well, lets just say, I think what Francis does is pretty gross for the most part, and he almost makes things into a soap opera with his insanely long lists of almost every name he could find. I am not saying you are like him, but maybe trying to give you a warning as to not necessarily hype the young guys before they have developed a little more fully. I like most of the players on your list, seems like they are some favorites for eventually being NBA prospects, but as 2011-12 All-Americans, I am not so sure. 

A few names you might want to consider, as far as a production standpoint in HS play is concerned:

PG Aquille Carr (Max Preps Sophomore of the Year this past season)

PF/C Tony Parker (Max Preps Junior of the Year this past season)

SF/PF Perry Ellis (Super Underrated, he will be an all most sure All-American)

SG Marcus Smart (Total baller, I am sure he will be not only a McDonald’s All-American, but on most 2011-12 All-American Teams)

PG/SG D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera (1st Team Junior All-American by Max Preps)

PF Ricardo Gathers (Undersized PF, just committed to St. John’s. He lead the EYBL in rebounding and should put up a monster senior year)

PG Yogi Ferrell

PF Amile Jefferson

PG Kasey Hill (Should more than likely have a better season than Dakari Johnson on the same HS team, Monteverde Academy. It is where Johnson is transferring, yes, from St. Patricks)

SF Xavier Johnson (Mater Dei is a big time school, he should be their leader once again)

SG/SF Katin Reinhardt (Another Mater Dei guy, should be in the running for All-American Honors)

PG J-Mychal Reese

PG/SG Phil Forte (Plays AAU and HS with Marcus Smart. They lead Marcus HS to a 38-1 record last season and were amongst the top HS teams in the nation. He can shoot the lights out. If you saw the Super 64 Finals, this kid can play.)

PG Tyler Lewis

SG Rasheed Sulaimon

SG Omar Calhoun

PF Brandon Ashley (He and Bennett should both put up major stats for Findlay)

PF/C Grant Jerrett

SF Justin Anderson

PG Ryan Arcidiacono

SG Gary Harris

SF Savon Goodman

C Daniel Ochefu

C Adam Woodbury

SF Jordan Tebbutt (Should have a really nice season at Oak Hill)

SG Jordan Adams

C Cameron Ridley

PF Chris Walker

I like Kasey Hill ALOT. He’s a good drive and kick passer, and he has the frame to be a nice physical presence too. He needs to get better with his shot and just continue to polish and grow up physically, but he’s a promising slashing PG. He’s class of 2013 I think, but he’s worth keeping an eye on.

I like Kasey Hill ALOT. He’s a good drive and kick passer, and he has the frame to be a nice physical presence too. He needs to get better with his shot and just continue to polish and grow up physically, but he’s a promising slashing PG. He’s class of 2013 I think, but he’s worth keeping an eye on.

I think Kasey Hill might end up being the top rated PG in 2013, though he has some competition in Andrew Harrison and Anthony Barber, as Paradigmn listed. I listed a few 2012 and 2013 guys just as likely being the best players as of 2011-12, hence more than likely making All-American teams. It is rare for underclassmen to be listed as All-American’s, at least by national media. I do not think it is due to age discrimination, if you are good enough, you will get on. LeBron James and Greg Oden are proof of that.

Guys like Jabari Parker and Julius Randle are obviously far ahead of the curve when it comes to physical maturation and skill set, but many of the other underclassmen need some work. When the All-American teams come out next year, odds are that the older and more physically mature prospects will have probably done more to earn All-American spots.

Here is a history of the Parade All-Americans:

http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/awards/4/2

I guess what you are trying to do is predict the best future prospects, but, it is going to take a while. I know some of the guys on your list are rated really highly at this point, but I bet that you will have new people ahead of them in their same class next year. That is just how it works, people pop out of nowhere, and any rankings before junior year usually tend to shift like crazy. Those 2014 guys are amazing prospects, but I have a feeling there could be a few major shake-ups over time. My favorites of the 2014’s would be Emmanuel Mudiay, and Andrew Wiggins of course looks dope. Still, I am not sure about Tyus Jones being the best PG in all of the classes at this point. Was indeed a bold choice and if you go by actual production next year, I think that Okafor and Johnson get in mostly off of name alone. I guess you are trying to pass the time, guess I am as well, but patience is a virtue, even when making bold predictions.

I think Kasey Hill might end up being the top rated PG in 2013, though he has some competition in Andrew Harrison and Anthony Barber, as Paradigmn listed. I listed a few 2012 and 2013 guys just as likely being the best players as of 2011-12, hence more than likely making All-American teams. It is rare for underclassmen to be listed as All-American’s, at least by national media. I do not think it is due to age discrimination, if you are good enough, you will get on. LeBron James and Greg Oden are proof of that.

Guys like Jabari Parker and Julius Randle are obviously far ahead of the curve when it comes to physical maturation and skill set, but many of the other underclassmen need some work. When the All-American teams come out next year, odds are that the older and more physically mature prospects will have probably done more to earn All-American spots.

Here is a history of the Parade All-Americans:

http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/awards/4/2

I guess what you are trying to do is predict the best future prospects, but, it is going to take a while. I know some of the guys on your list are rated really highly at this point, but I bet that you will have new people ahead of them in their same class next year. That is just how it works, people pop out of nowhere, and any rankings before junior year usually tend to shift like crazy. Those 2014 guys are amazing prospects, but I have a feeling there could be a few major shake-ups over time. My favorites of the 2014’s would be Emmanuel Mudiay, and Andrew Wiggins of course looks dope. Still, I am not sure about Tyus Jones being the best PG in all of the classes at this point. Was indeed a bold choice and if you go by actual production next year, I think that Okafor and Johnson get in mostly off of name alone. I guess you are trying to pass the time, guess I am as well, but patience is a virtue, even when making bold predictions.

im happy that mikeyvthedon mentioned Aquille Carr in his post. im not sure what else this kid has to do to get his props. there is a plethora of talent on the high school level right now and that kid needs to mentioned somewhere near the top.

im happy that mikeyvthedon mentioned Aquille Carr in his post. im not sure what else this kid has to do to get his props. there is a plethora of talent on the high school level right now and that kid needs to mentioned somewhere near the top.

Jabari Parker is one special player…

Jabari Parker is one special player…