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  • #31780
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    ckelley015
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    Ok, I know this is a completely speculative thread (oh well, it happens with a lockout), however with all the high school camps happening all over the country and internet breakdowns at each site; who would your pick be in an all-year highschool-only draft ? Who would you dub the next great player from the high school ranks?

    Shabazz, Drummond, Randle, Parker, Wiggins, Bennett, Noel, Austin? Not limited to these players whatsoever, but I appreciate all answers.

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  • #570393
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    aamir543
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    Drummond, there is such a shortage ofbig men these days, its almost default that we should choose Drummond, but still I wouldn’t blame someone for taking Shabaz, cause the last dominant big to win a tittle was Shaq, but you notice how Shaq didn’t start winning tittles until Kobe stated scoring 30 a game, and when Wade cam into his own. 

    So as important as big men are, you need a really good perimeter player around them. Hakeem was the last to do it without one was Hakeem, and that was only the first tittle, for the second one, he had Clyde the Glide when he was still averaging 21 per game. Other than that, Mc Hale and Parish had Larry, Wilt had the logo, and Bill Russel had Cousy, and when he retired, he had Havlicek.

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  • #570525
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    aamir543
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    Drummond, there is such a shortage ofbig men these days, its almost default that we should choose Drummond, but still I wouldn’t blame someone for taking Shabaz, cause the last dominant big to win a tittle was Shaq, but you notice how Shaq didn’t start winning tittles until Kobe stated scoring 30 a game, and when Wade cam into his own. 

    So as important as big men are, you need a really good perimeter player around them. Hakeem was the last to do it without one was Hakeem, and that was only the first tittle, for the second one, he had Clyde the Glide when he was still averaging 21 per game. Other than that, Mc Hale and Parish had Larry, Wilt had the logo, and Bill Russel had Cousy, and when he retired, he had Havlicek.

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  • #570397
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    McDunkin

    Dalen Qualls(#Duh), Shebazz, Mitch Mcgary(not just for the Mc in his name), Katin Reinhardt, Andrew Harrison(maybe his twinn brother Aaron too) , Dakari Johnson, Kevin Zabo ,Steve Zimmerman.

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  • #570529
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    Dalen Qualls(#Duh), Shebazz, Mitch Mcgary(not just for the Mc in his name), Katin Reinhardt, Andrew Harrison(maybe his twinn brother Aaron too) , Dakari Johnson, Kevin Zabo ,Steve Zimmerman.

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  • #570401
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    franfran
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    Chris Thomas – HS Junior SG 6-5, Wade reminds me

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  • #570533
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    franfran
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    Chris Thomas – HS Junior SG 6-5, Wade reminds me

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  • #570416
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    highflyer0
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    Shabazz Muhammad and then i think Jabari Parker.  Parker could end up being the best out of all of them, but we will see.

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  • #570549
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    highflyer0
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    Shabazz Muhammad and then i think Jabari Parker.  Parker could end up being the best out of all of them, but we will see.

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  • #570463
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    paradigmn
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    Allot of players can make this list…this is just one that some people might have not heard about http://www.scoutsfocus.com/maliknewman.html…MALIK NEWMAN #1 incoming freshmen in the class of 2015

     

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  • #570596
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    paradigmn
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    Allot of players can make this list…this is just one that some people might have not heard about http://www.scoutsfocus.com/maliknewman.html…MALIK NEWMAN #1 incoming freshmen in the class of 2015

     

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  • #570465
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    ForTheWin
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    I’ll go international with this one- Nenad Miljenovic- KK Partizan- 1993- 6’4” 185 lbs.

    Fast and Strong. Amazing scorer and has the ability to do anything on the court.

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  • #570598
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    I’ll go international with this one- Nenad Miljenovic- KK Partizan- 1993- 6’4” 185 lbs.

    Fast and Strong. Amazing scorer and has the ability to do anything on the court.

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  • #570468
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    aamir543
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    @forthewin, weren’t you he guy that wanted to know what ethnicity I was?

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    • #570470
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      ForTheWin
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      Yeah I still do, just wondering because amir is a bosnian name, and I’m half bosnian, sorry if it seemed like I was being wierd or anything, I just wanted to know, my bad.

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    • #570604
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      Yeah I still do, just wondering because amir is a bosnian name, and I’m half bosnian, sorry if it seemed like I was being wierd or anything, I just wanted to know, my bad.

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  • #570602
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    aamir543
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    @forthewin, weren’t you he guy that wanted to know what ethnicity I was?

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  • #570472
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    aamir543
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    That’s cool, I am Indian, but I am Muslim, so that’s where Aamir comes from.

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  • #570606
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    aamir543
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    That’s cool, I am Indian, but I am Muslim, so that’s where Aamir comes from.

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  • #570476
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    ForTheWin
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    Cool, I’m like a lot of former yugoslavians- mixed, half serbian, half bosnian, but I choose to go with the serbian in me and be christian, but its all good. Hey do you live in India? Because i heard some shyt popped off today.

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  • #570609
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    Cool, I’m like a lot of former yugoslavians- mixed, half serbian, half bosnian, but I choose to go with the serbian in me and be christian, but its all good. Hey do you live in India? Because i heard some shyt popped off today.

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  • #570480
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    aamir543
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    No, and yeah I heard about that. Not happy about it.

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  • #570613
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    aamir543
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    No, and yeah I heard about that. Not happy about it.

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  • #570484
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    ForTheWin
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    I’ve never understood it, what’s behind the pakistani-indian hatred, just askin.

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  • #570617
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    ForTheWin
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    I’ve never understood it, what’s behind the pakistani-indian hatred, just askin.

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  • #570629
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    aamir543
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    There is nothing behind it. Half of my dad’s south asian friends are Pakistani. There are a lot in our comunity too. Thre is no hatred. In fact when I was little, I thought we were all the same, and to extent, that is true, we are all brown, right?

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  • #570496
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    aamir543
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    There is nothing behind it. Half of my dad’s south asian friends are Pakistani. There are a lot in our comunity too. Thre is no hatred. In fact when I was little, I thought we were all the same, and to extent, that is true, we are all brown, right?

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  • #570631
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    ForTheWin
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    Lol, yeah, but I was just watching the news and they were talking how this could spark a Pakistan-india nuclear war, I swear sometimes the US is the biggest instegator.

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  • #570498
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    Lol, yeah, but I was just watching the news and they were talking how this could spark a Pakistan-india nuclear war, I swear sometimes the US is the biggest instegator.

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  • #570639
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    aamir543
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    Last sememster as a Freshman I took a Modern Wotld course. Basically, a lot of the civil wars in Africa are because the US started it. I can’t remember any off my head, but the US and Ussr had a bunch of proxy wars, meaning they funded other third world countries to fight agaianst each other, and the US would try to spread Capitalism and Demoicracy, while the Ussr(Now Russia) would fund companies to become communists. But in this particular instance, I don’t think it will go that far, hopefully, but it is still sad to see people suffering, expecially like this.

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  • #570506
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    aamir543
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    Last sememster as a Freshman I took a Modern Wotld course. Basically, a lot of the civil wars in Africa are because the US started it. I can’t remember any off my head, but the US and Ussr had a bunch of proxy wars, meaning they funded other third world countries to fight agaianst each other, and the US would try to spread Capitalism and Demoicracy, while the Ussr(Now Russia) would fund companies to become communists. But in this particular instance, I don’t think it will go that far, hopefully, but it is still sad to see people suffering, expecially like this.

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  • #570657
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    In fact, there is reason to believe that there was US interest in the war in Yugoslavia. They preach it as a war between different nationalist groups in the former yugoslavia(mainly blamed serbians) when in fact the US now has some of its largest military bases in the former yugo(Albania), its sad but people(americans) can’t seem to realize that there country is the biggest terrorist union in the world. I mean they bombed civilians in Serbia for 78 days and now there bombing Gaddafi whose made Libya relevant in his power and now instead of helping a great man and leader there bombing his country to smitherens because there too scared to fight like men on the ground.

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  • #570524
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    ForTheWin
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    In fact, there is reason to believe that there was US interest in the war in Yugoslavia. They preach it as a war between different nationalist groups in the former yugoslavia(mainly blamed serbians) when in fact the US now has some of its largest military bases in the former yugo(Albania), its sad but people(americans) can’t seem to realize that there country is the biggest terrorist union in the world. I mean they bombed civilians in Serbia for 78 days and now there bombing Gaddafi whose made Libya relevant in his power and now instead of helping a great man and leader there bombing his country to smitherens because there too scared to fight like men on the ground.

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  • #570736
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    aamir543
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    Well, that was terible, but the way I percieved that particular instance was that the US actually saved lives in the long run. Think about it, had the US not done that, all of that chaos would have gone on longer than 70 days, so…… But I absolutly get your point, in general, the US sparks a lot of cicil conflicts in foreign coutries to fulfill its tiny duties.  

    About Ghadafi, I believe he was harming his cilvilians, so I can’t say anything on that one.

    It was nice talking to somone with knowlege and knows how to discuss these fragile topics, but let’s keep on track about Basketball.

    About that post a month ago, when you said Darko was better than Bynum………….OH, you are Serbian, never mind, If there was an Indian player I would definitly be biased toward him. Ok it all good. 

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  • #570601
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    aamir543
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    Well, that was terible, but the way I percieved that particular instance was that the US actually saved lives in the long run. Think about it, had the US not done that, all of that chaos would have gone on longer than 70 days, so…… But I absolutly get your point, in general, the US sparks a lot of cicil conflicts in foreign coutries to fulfill its tiny duties.  

    About Ghadafi, I believe he was harming his cilvilians, so I can’t say anything on that one.

    It was nice talking to somone with knowlege and knows how to discuss these fragile topics, but let’s keep on track about Basketball.

    About that post a month ago, when you said Darko was better than Bynum………….OH, you are Serbian, never mind, If there was an Indian player I would definitly be biased toward him. Ok it all good. 

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  • #570742
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    ForTheWin
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    Well yeah lets get back to baketball. I retract that Darko is better than Bynum, but look there both very similar, Huge bodies, Great d/Shot blocking, often injured/not performing to ability, and overshadowed by teammates. I can definately see people’s frustration with Darko, but I can’t see why people are so hard on the t-wolves. There a young team and have all the building blocks for a great future. Don’t see any reason for ruling them out of success.

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  • #570607
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    Well yeah lets get back to baketball. I retract that Darko is better than Bynum, but look there both very similar, Huge bodies, Great d/Shot blocking, often injured/not performing to ability, and overshadowed by teammates. I can definately see people’s frustration with Darko, but I can’t see why people are so hard on the t-wolves. There a young team and have all the building blocks for a great future. Don’t see any reason for ruling them out of success.

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  • #570626
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    aamir543
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    I am not ruling the Wolves out of success, in fact I have them as my sleeper candidate for the next couple years, if their talent meshes, they could be dangerous.

     

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  • #570760
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    aamir543
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    I am not ruling the Wolves out of success, in fact I have them as my sleeper candidate for the next couple years, if their talent meshes, they could be dangerous.

     

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  • #570632
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    aamir543
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    2007-0820LALNBA352510086.810.6.6360.00.0 2.94.2.6953.79.012.72.20.42.61.93.516.4
    2008-0921LALNBA505014467.012.5.5600.00.0 3.85.4.7073.46.59.91.80.42.22.13.917.8
    2009-1022LALNBA656519777.112.5.5700.00.0.0003.54.8.7393.26.69.91.20.61.72.13.517.8
    2010-1123LALNBA544715005.79.9.5740.00.0 3.35.0.6604.18.112.21.80.52.51.83.414.7

     

    2007-0822MEMNBA706416634.710.8.4380.00.0.0001.52.6.5542.76.49.21.30.72.52.24.010.9
    2008-0923MEMNBA611510344.89.3.5150.00.0 2.13.7.5622.96.39.21.20.81.81.74.711.6
    2009-1024TOTNBA32186855.310.7.4900.00.1.0000.81.5.5362.55.57.92.51.21.81.84.311.3
    2009-1024NYKNBA80714.18.6.4710.00.0 0.00.0 2.56.69.12.02.00.51.03.58.1
    2009-1024MINNBA24186145.411.0.4920.00.1.0000.91.6.5362.55.37.82.51.11.91.94.411.7
    2010-1125MINNBA696916865.812.3.4690.00.0 1.42.5.5572.84.87.72.21.23.03.24.912.9

     

    These are per 36 minutes numbers for both of them. Points and Rebounds are in bold. Now Bynum clearly has the better stats, but the reason Darko doesn’t get minutes is because he gets into foul trouble, and quite frankly, you can find a better option than him. He is a starting big in this league, don’t get me wrong, but Bynum has the potential to be a top 5 big. Darko is just a solid starter, and even that isn’t garenteed. Plus he is not the defensive presence Bynum is.

     

     

     

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  • #570767
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    aamir543
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    2007-0820LALNBA352510086.810.6.6360.00.0 2.94.2.6953.79.012.72.20.42.61.93.516.4
    2008-0921LALNBA505014467.012.5.5600.00.0 3.85.4.7073.46.59.91.80.42.22.13.917.8
    2009-1022LALNBA656519777.112.5.5700.00.0.0003.54.8.7393.26.69.91.20.61.72.13.517.8
    2010-1123LALNBA544715005.79.9.5740.00.0 3.35.0.6604.18.112.21.80.52.51.83.414.7

     

    2007-0822MEMNBA706416634.710.8.4380.00.0.0001.52.6.5542.76.49.21.30.72.52.24.010.9
    2008-0923MEMNBA611510344.89.3.5150.00.0 2.13.7.5622.96.39.21.20.81.81.74.711.6
    2009-1024TOTNBA32186855.310.7.4900.00.1.0000.81.5.5362.55.57.92.51.21.81.84.311.3
    2009-1024NYKNBA80714.18.6.4710.00.0 0.00.0 2.56.69.12.02.00.51.03.58.1
    2009-1024MINNBA24186145.411.0.4920.00.1.0000.91.6.5362.55.37.82.51.11.91.94.411.7
    2010-1125MINNBA696916865.812.3.4690.00.0 1.42.5.5572.84.87.72.21.23.03.24.912.9

     

    These are per 36 minutes numbers for both of them. Points and Rebounds are in bold. Now Bynum clearly has the better stats, but the reason Darko doesn’t get minutes is because he gets into foul trouble, and quite frankly, you can find a better option than him. He is a starting big in this league, don’t get me wrong, but Bynum has the potential to be a top 5 big. Darko is just a solid starter, and even that isn’t garenteed. Plus he is not the defensive presence Bynum is.

     

     

     

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  • #570634
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    aamir543
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  • #570658
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    river09
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    i don’t understand what people see in milicic anymore… yes he may be a solid defensive center… but he gets in ridiculous foul trouble all the time and (while he may pass effectively on the offensive end) he isn’t active enough to be anything more than a liability on the offensive end… his rebounding effort is unacceptable for a 7 footer as well… 

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  • #570793
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    i don’t understand what people see in milicic anymore… yes he may be a solid defensive center… but he gets in ridiculous foul trouble all the time and (while he may pass effectively on the offensive end) he isn’t active enough to be anything more than a liability on the offensive end… his rebounding effort is unacceptable for a 7 footer as well… 

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  • #570695
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    river09

    A reason K Love had 15 rpg,, was that when Darko was on the court he was taking the best box out. And people still see things in him because – foul trouble and playing time are issues that can all be fixed.

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  • #570830
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    river09

    A reason K Love had 15 rpg,, was that when Darko was on the court he was taking the best box out. And people still see things in him because – foul trouble and playing time are issues that can all be fixed.

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  • #570697
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    aamir543
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    But when that is all fixed, he will still only be giving you what you see in the per 36 minutes stats.

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  • #570832
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    aamir543
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    But when that is all fixed, he will still only be giving you what you see in the per 36 minutes stats.

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  • #570703
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    aamir, that has yet to be seen, hopefully he can prove us wrong, unfortanutely he hasn’t in the past.

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  • #570838
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    aamir, that has yet to be seen, hopefully he can prove us wrong, unfortanutely he hasn’t in the past.

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  • #570727
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    Kinguy11
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    I know everyone is saying this, but Drummond again. I’m so orignal. Austin Rivers aswell, continuing on with my orignality. OK, I was being sarcastic before but I think that no one else as mentioned Michael Gilchrist, with his athletic abilities, if he devolps well in college, he could have a good NBA career.

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  • #570862
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    Kinguy11
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    I know everyone is saying this, but Drummond again. I’m so orignal. Austin Rivers aswell, continuing on with my orignality. OK, I was being sarcastic before but I think that no one else as mentioned Michael Gilchrist, with his athletic abilities, if he devolps well in college, he could have a good NBA career.

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  • #570735
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Shabazz Muhammed, Julius Randle, Andrew Harrison and Dakari Johnson lead the way for me.

    If I had to pick one guy I would say Johnson because I feel like his potential is crazy high but it always seems that way for young big men with rare size.

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  • #570871
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Shabazz Muhammed, Julius Randle, Andrew Harrison and Dakari Johnson lead the way for me.

    If I had to pick one guy I would say Johnson because I feel like his potential is crazy high but it always seems that way for young big men with rare size.

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