Vesely to Washington

I don’t want Vesely. I think he has the highest bust-potential in this draft. He has no skills. He can’t shoot, dribble and is turnover-prone. I also heard that he’s not a very good defender, even though he has the potential to improve on that end.

I want the Wizards to trade up for Kanter, but if they don’t, they’ll probably choose Vesely 🙁

I don’t want Vesely. I think he has the highest bust-potential in this draft. He has no skills. He can’t shoot, dribble and is turnover-prone. I also heard that he’s not a very good defender, even though he has the potential to improve on that end.

I want the Wizards to trade up for Kanter, but if they don’t, they’ll probably choose Vesely 🙁

To be honest, I think the Wizards just need to trade the pick. I don’t like either guy for the Wizards. If they could pick up A couple of 1st rounders next year for that 6th pick and some cash, that would be great. If they end up having to pick there, I’d pick Vesely just because his potential is higher than Leonard’s. Although, I have a massive disdain for Kawhi Leonard, who I believe belongs anywhere between #25-#32, so I may be wrong.

To be honest, I think the Wizards just need to trade the pick. I don’t like either guy for the Wizards. If they could pick up A couple of 1st rounders next year for that 6th pick and some cash, that would be great. If they end up having to pick there, I’d pick Vesely just because his potential is higher than Leonard’s. Although, I have a massive disdain for Kawhi Leonard, who I believe belongs anywhere between #25-#32, so I may be wrong.

I am jumping off a bridge if they pick Vesely. Having nightmere of Vesely trying to guard Lebron.

Worst case draft burks let Nick Young go. 

I am jumping off a bridge if they pick Vesely. Having nightmere of Vesely trying to guard Lebron.

Worst case draft burks let Nick Young go. 

 Most rookie’s can’t defend much anyways, defense is the hardest aspect of the pro game for most college players to adjust to.  Is Vesely going to get eating alive as a rookie by Lebron? yes, but everyone else in the draft not named Chris Singleton ( who would still get owned, but I think he is the player in this draft best suited to guard lebron) will too, Leonard isn’t very strong.  Vesely has defensive potential, down the line, I think he could be a Birdman type defender in a couple years.

It’s pretty un realistic to think the #6 pick as a rookie can guard the best player in the league.

 Most rookie’s can’t defend much anyways, defense is the hardest aspect of the pro game for most college players to adjust to.  Is Vesely going to get eating alive as a rookie by Lebron? yes, but everyone else in the draft not named Chris Singleton ( who would still get owned, but I think he is the player in this draft best suited to guard lebron) will too, Leonard isn’t very strong.  Vesely has defensive potential, down the line, I think he could be a Birdman type defender in a couple years.

It’s pretty un realistic to think the #6 pick as a rookie can guard the best player in the league.

Vesley can be hidden against non-offensive 4’s and, with Javale and a zone, could actually end up quite deadly.  We’ll know how good Jan can be quickly by how hard he tries on D, I think.

Vesley can be hidden against non-offensive 4’s and, with Javale and a zone, could actually end up quite deadly.  We’ll know how good Jan can be quickly by how hard he tries on D, I think.

I think they see his length as defensive potential, and his energy, length and athleticism will help them on the defensive glass, and altering shots from the get go.  PusleGlazer makes a good point about a potential zone with McGhee and Vesely, that is a very long lineup at the 4 and 5

I think they see his length as defensive potential, and his energy, length and athleticism will help them on the defensive glass, and altering shots from the get go.  PusleGlazer makes a good point about a potential zone with McGhee and Vesely, that is a very long lineup at the 4 and 5

Zone.  Mix it up. Don’t let teams get comfortable with your look.  Dallas lacks elite defenders too. Length can make up for a lot. Think of the solution, not the problem.

Zone.  Mix it up. Don’t let teams get comfortable with your look.  Dallas lacks elite defenders too. Length can make up for a lot. Think of the solution, not the problem.

I’m not a fan of Vesely, but I’d take him over Leonard. He hustles just as much as Leonard, and is more athletic, so he has more potential.

I’m not a fan of Vesely, but I’d take him over Leonard. He hustles just as much as Leonard, and is more athletic, so he has more potential.

Playing zone takes away the Wizards best asset, John Wall on the ball defense and full court pressure.

Just say no to Vesely.

Playing zone takes away the Wizards best asset, John Wall on the ball defense and full court pressure.

Just say no to Vesely.

 ^ There are a million types od defense, if you’re that concerned about John Wall playing on the ball defense, roll with a box + 1.  Also, most teams don’t keep the same defensive set the whole game, they adjust and even teams that run a lot of zone, by NBA standards, still match up man to man for parts of the game.

 ^ There are a million types od defense, if you’re that concerned about John Wall playing on the ball defense, roll with a box + 1.  Also, most teams don’t keep the same defensive set the whole game, they adjust and even teams that run a lot of zone, by NBA standards, still match up man to man for parts of the game.

Their best asset is Javale changing shots.  In a zone he’d be more in place to do so, especially since he makes mental mistakes in man.  As a mix and match and with different types of zone, this could play huge dividends, especially with Vesley and Wall’s speed closing out space on the perimeter.  This actually doesn’t seem so bad and might be Vesley’s best case (he’s a guy literally a half hour ago I thought had no role, but, well, this should work if his motor is as good as advertised).  Imagine this if they got Andre Kirilenko to share the 3/4 spot with Jan.  That’s quite a defense all of a sudden.

Their best asset is Javale changing shots.  In a zone he’d be more in place to do so, especially since he makes mental mistakes in man.  As a mix and match and with different types of zone, this could play huge dividends, especially with Vesley and Wall’s speed closing out space on the perimeter.  This actually doesn’t seem so bad and might be Vesley’s best case (he’s a guy literally a half hour ago I thought had no role, but, well, this should work if his motor is as good as advertised).  Imagine this if they got Andre Kirilenko to share the 3/4 spot with Jan.  That’s quite a defense all of a sudden.

In crunch time Dallas often did just that. How’d that work out?

Vesley won’t be driving in crunch time. Duly noted.  Good thing they have that Wall guy.

In crunch time Dallas often did just that. How’d that work out?

Vesley won’t be driving in crunch time. Duly noted.  Good thing they have that Wall guy.

If you aren’t big on Vesely, that’s fine.  We have a difference in opinion, but to say zones aren’t effective down the stretch of games just isn’t accurate.  But for a team really to buy into tough defense you need a system and a coach to impliment that, and I will say as long as Flip Saunders is their coach, that is not going to be their team identity.  That doesn’t mean their players don’t have the potential to at least be better defenders.  

From what I understand, Blatche isn’t a big part of their future and Nick Young most likely isn’t. The reason why they drafted Serephin and Booker last year was because of toughness because they are trying to move away from that mentality.  I think the Wizards will look drastically different in a year or two and I think Vesely’s energy and athleticism can be a valuable asset to the Wizards going forward. 

If you aren’t big on Vesely, that’s fine.  We have a difference in opinion, but to say zones aren’t effective down the stretch of games just isn’t accurate.  But for a team really to buy into tough defense you need a system and a coach to impliment that, and I will say as long as Flip Saunders is their coach, that is not going to be their team identity.  That doesn’t mean their players don’t have the potential to at least be better defenders.  

From what I understand, Blatche isn’t a big part of their future and Nick Young most likely isn’t. The reason why they drafted Serephin and Booker last year was because of toughness because they are trying to move away from that mentality.  I think the Wizards will look drastically different in a year or two and I think Vesely’s energy and athleticism can be a valuable asset to the Wizards going forward. 

 trade the pick down to the blazers for batum and there pick and then draft tobias harris or faried

 trade the pick down to the blazers for batum and there pick and then draft tobias harris or faried

Flip is, if not for Rambis and Bickerstaff, the opposite of who I’d want coaching a young team among coaches active right now.  Hey, what team do all those guys (one potentially) have in common?

Flip is, if not for Rambis and Bickerstaff, the opposite of who I’d want coaching a young team among coaches active right now.  Hey, what team do all those guys (one potentially) have in common?

 Exactly, Flip is a guy who can step in and coach a team of vets who know what they are doing, but I don’t feel he’s the teacher and defensive mind a team like Washington needs right now in their rebuilding process.

 Exactly, Flip is a guy who can step in and coach a team of vets who know what they are doing, but I don’t feel he’s the teacher and defensive mind a team like Washington needs right now in their rebuilding process.