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- Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:22am #30044
aamir543ParticipantI am neither a Lebron hater, nor am I one of those bandwagon fans. I criticize him when I feel he has done somthing wrong, and I appreciate him when he makes a nice play. Now I only watched the first three quaters of the game last night because I had a game of my own, but from what I heard, iit sounds like game 5 vs. Boston all over again. Now people are ripping him, saying he wasn’t even trying, or that he was throwing the game away, but for the first three quarters, he was trying. He wasn’t effective, he wasn’t taking good shots, but he got his teamates involved as well as grabbing some boards. But the turnovers late in the game cost him, as well as horrid shot selection by Miami as a team. But although his lackluster performance cost them a chance to theoretically clinch the sieres in 4 games, he still has a chance to make up for it. Now when Nowitzki missed that game winner at the end of game 3, no one critisized him, and rightfully so. He had done everything in his power to bring them to that point in the first place. but had that been Lebron, we would have ripped him to shreads. Granted he took the shortcut to a champoionship, but we don’t acknowlage all the things he does correctly. We take his sky high talent for granted. I bet you had Lebron chosen to stay in Cleveland, we wouldn’t have written him off the way we did on those Jordan comparisions. There was a post on here earlier talking about how Lebron has lost his athleticism and what not. But that is absolutly correct. Many people dont want to admit that not because they love Lebron, we dont want to accept the fact we wont be able to see his chase down blocks anymore, or his ferocious halfcourt slams. I remember he did have a couple dunks like that earlier in the finals, but we dont see it nearly as often. Watch clips of his Cleveland games and just watch the way he would float in to the air. And jsut notice how much fun he is having. I dont see it at all anymore. And beck to athleticsim, when you play as the Heat on nba2k11, what is the first thing you do? You dribble left with Lebron, then you make a crossover to the right then head down the lane at full speen and slam it down. Now that does not happen very often, but it happened mor in his Cleveland days, adn I think more it has to do with his buld and brute strength, than anything else. He is only 26, he shouldn’t be spiralling down already. And Lebron has indirectly said that he has embraced his role as a villain, but does anyone like seeing the Lebron we saw during these playoffs, or the one we saw go off against Detroit in 07, or the one that looked like a 5 year old on a sugar rush with Cleveland. Now he looks like he just want to kill you which is the right quality to have as aplayer, but that is not what we are used to from Lebron
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:28am #541540
sammybuckeye13ParticipantGood points…I think what’s throwing him off a little is how good Wade has been. No Cav was ever 1/10 as good as Wade, and while Bron obviously adjusted fine to playing alongside him this year, Wade is taking it to another level right now, going for 29.8/8/4.3/58.8%FG/1.5 steals/1.5 blocks in the Finals. I think he’s in the mindset now that Wade is the man. ESPN had an article today about how the Heat are still Wade’s team and Bron’s buying into that a little too much.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:37am #541541
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantPlease uses paragraphs.
"does anyone like seeing the Lebron we saw during these playoffs, or the one we saw go off against Detroit in 07"
I’d rather see the LeBron we saw in these playoffs, excluding the Finals. The LeBron that hit clutch 3 after clutch 3 in the faces of Pierce and Deng and anybody in between. I have no clue why he isn’t aggressive. It can be fatigue, it can be the moment is too big, it can be a variety of reasons.
He’ll bounce back, easier said than done, but it’s extrememly difficult to keep a superstar quiet for 3 games and expect him to continue his non-aggressive streak. I will be looking forward to a LeBron triple-double in game 5. Hopefully we don’t see the 2010 LeBron James vs Boston Game 5.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:40am #541542
aamir543Participanthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2MKlJk6Eo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf12kLqDqMw
The first one is his top ten plays from this year, and the second the 05-06 season. Watch how high his head gets on dunks and blocks, more so in 05-06.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:46am #541543
maaronmmsParticipantu have some cons and some goods but ..i think lebron has gotten better not worse
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:48am #541546
aamir543ParticipantWell, in the long run, this stlye of play will benefit him. That is why Kobe hasn’t fallen off the face of the world, he learned that he connot depend of brute athleticism, and Blake griffin will go down the same road.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 8:56am #541548
tjrell23Participantthere is any issue with Lebron. YES, i think he could be more aggresive, but without Lebron, DWADE doesnt average 30 this series, nor does Bosh get close to 20. The man facilitates beautifully, and draws so much attention that it really opens up for the others. I dont think its a debate on who is better between DWADE and LeBron, its about how the defense is playing them. Wade got a lot of buckets in transition, off cuts, and to the rim when the ball was swung. and if LeBron isnt hitting Wade on the cuts and back doors, he’s not getting 30 a game. So Lebron isnt being that aggresive, but that attention alone he attracts is helpful.
Just because Randy Moss doesnt catch 10 balls a game with 3 TD’s doesnt mean, he isnt effective, he still impacts the game and opens for others, similar to LeBron in this series. No one said anything when Lebron controlled the Chicago series and Dwade struggled and played passive.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 9:48am #541577
JunkYardDogParticipantJames is anakin skywalker in his transition becoming vader… riley is palpatin / dark sidious…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 11:18am #541607
Memphis MadnessParticipantThis is LeBron’s EIGHT YEAR. The mileage is piling up, and it should show soon in his athleticism and stamina. He might have lost half a step, but so does every other player after their peak so LeBron just has to cope with it.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:14pm #541634
boxn1ParticipantHero to villian, no. Underdog to favorite,yes. He can’t score 8 points in the finals period. He left Cleveland because he didn’t have help. He is playing with in everyone’s estimation better players, he has to own this one. It’s not unfair at all. If I recall, Kobe was killed in 08′ after losing in the finals,saying he shot too much. Its just a part of what comes with the status
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