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- Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 6:38pm #29785
laarethekingsParticipantGuys was reading this on Espn and Fran Fraschilla says this guy is the real deal… I think he would fit best with the Cavs… Ivring and Vesely would be nice on the fast break for them in the long run.
By Fran Fraschilla
Jan Vesely has picked the perfect time to enter the NBA draft. The 6-foot-11, 21-year-old native of the Czech Republic may have one of the best combinations of size, experience, potential and athleticism in this draft. And he’s taking advantage of the dearth of quality college players at the top of this year’s draft.
Although many considered Vesely a top-10 pick a year ago, staying in Europe this past season has virtually insured that he will be one of the first six or seven players chosen in this draft, as college stars Harrison Barnes, Perry Jones and Jared Sullinger all elected to return to school.
Playing background
In 2006, Vesely was, at 16 years old, the youngest player to attend to the Reebok EuroCamp in Treviso, Italy. While NBA teams were preoccupied with evaluating six future draft selections there, the young Czech slipped quietly under the radar. In fact, in reviewing my own scant notes on him from camp, he might as well have been the invisible man.But he showed enough potential playing for youth teams in his native country that he was signed to a professional contract by Geoplin Slovan in 2007 and, a year later, his contract was sold to the Serbian club Partizan Belgrade, where he flourished under outstanding coaching.
Spending the last three seasons playing at the Euroleague level has turned the once-raw Vesely into a lottery selection. Although he did not dominate at this level, he averaged 10 points and almost four rebounds per game this past season in a league that features a higher level of play than that of any college basketball conference in the U.S.
Going up against older European players, former NBA players and former college stars in environments even more hostile than Duke’s Cameron Indoor Stadium has helped Vesely’s development. As I’ve said before, if the NBA is the major leagues, then the Euroleague is the equivalent of Triple-A.
Future position
While Vesely has shown the versatility to play both forward positions, especially defensively, I see him more as a power forward early in his NBA career. To me, that position in the league is broken down into three distinct styles right now: low post players, "stretch the defense" shooters and energy players who can play without the ball. Vesely’s elite athleticism, ability to run the court and play above the rim puts him in that third category.Athleticism
Compared to most in this draft, Vesely’s athletic ability is off the charts. You don’t need to see him at a combine to figure that out.I’ve compared his jumping ability to former Sonics and Suns star Tom Chambers. While that’s admittedly an old school reference, the bottom line is that Vesely is one of the most electric dunkers in Europe and that will translate to the NBA. He gets his head at the rim on takeoff.
Coupling his running and jumping ability with his agility and length makes him, potentially, an outstanding defender. In fact, his easiest adjustment to the NBA may be on the defensive end of the floor.
Skill level
Offensively, Vesely is more comfortable at power forward because of an inconsistent jump shot and below average ballhandling skills, but both areas can be improved. If an NBA team is looking for a player with a complete offensive package, he is not the guy yet.However, because Vesely’s shot is not broken, its improvement will certainly keep NBA defenses honest. And another thing I love about Vesely is his ability to play without the ball and get behind defenses for lobs or offensive rebounds. Coupled with some run-out baskets, Vesely will be able to make an offensive contribution even when a team runs few plays for him.
Attitude and disposition
While Vesely, like many European players, will be a low maintenance player for coaches to deal with, he has started to show a degree of passion as he has matured. Playing for Partizan, one of Europe’s most storied teams that features one of the most rabid fan bases, has added to that passion on the court.Some have even said that he has more "nasty" in him since arriving in Belgrade and that should serve him well as he enters the league. However, it has not yet translated into Vesely rebounding the power forward position like he will need to in the NBA.
Best case scenario: Andrei Kirilenko/Shawn Marion
The comparisons to Kirilenko are logical because both are athletic European forwards who play with great energy but are under-skilled offensively. The team that drafts Vesely would certainly be satisfied with Kirilenko-type production over the course of his career.But if Vesely wants to swing for the fences, the best case scenario would be for him to emulate the career of Marion, a four-time NBA All-Star who has had an underrated 14 seasons in the league.
That might be asking an awful lot of Vesely right now. But in a draft devoid of potential stars, finding a spot in an NBA team’s rotation would be a good first step.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 6:54pm #539403
boshjonesfordParticipantApperently his favorite player is lebron…
i want the raptors to draft him but he says he seees him self playing a powerforward (and compared himself to dirk) which is some what dissapointing since we could used a SF
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 8:52pm #539441

ilike.panochasParticipantHis package of height and athleticism is the best ive seen in any European player. I think he will be a SF early in his career and will eventually bulk up to be a PF and out grow the SF position. Just on upside alone, he has the most amongst any player in this draft, but he may also have the toughest transition/adjustment to make because he lacks the ability to create for himself and doesn’t have a post game to utilize his height.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:00pm #539459
boshjonesfordParticipant{Edit}
new interview posted today by nbadraft.net
NBADraft.net: What position do you feel you will play in the NBA?
Jan Vesely: Small and power forward
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:16pm #539460

Jazz_ItalyParticipantKoc and Corbin are going to wacht him in Europe
i think Jazz are very interested in every SF on the draft and Vasely seems to be a youngest and stronger AK47
i hope Jazz keep following him, because he coul be a great add for us
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:21pm #539461
j1232eParticipantIf the Jazz do draft Vessely I sure hope they sign AK 47 to a 2 year contract to mentor this kid. Then I might be a little more excited about him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:27pm #539462
4th dimensionAsking AK47 to mentor someone? The guy is soft and as great a coach as Sloan was, even he couldn’t get the best out of AK47 at times.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:35pm #539465
j1232eParticipantmaybe not mentor but to practice and watch, to learn all AK unique skills, that the Jazz obviously need. Utah is a better team when AK is healthy and active. Vesely could learn how important those little things AK does for a team is very valuable.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:35pm #539466
boshjonesfordParticipanti think ak47 is going to the nets, the owner is russian, they need a small forward, D-williams has played with him before…it all adds up (just a speculation)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:37pm #539467
4th dimensionVasely already has a better motor than AK47, perhaps he should mentor AK47 and teach him how to play hard 100% every possession.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:38pm #539468
j1232eParticipantI also thought he was going to the nets all last year, until the nets got DWILL I don’t think AK really got along well with DWILL. I still think nets have a higher chance of signing AK with the Jazz being in rebuild mode.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/03/2011 - 1:25am #539479
lbj_6I think that vesely will be drafted third cause the Jazz desperately need a small forward, european and athletic. Kirilenko will be going to other team so Utah need to power their small forward position.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/03/2011 - 5:16am #539515

Meditated StatesParticipantMos definately has maybe the highest ceiling in this draft. What position he plays at is what might scare some teams off, but It’s good he wants to be a PF. Get him with the strength and conditioning coach. I have only seen highlights, but damn the athelete this kid is at that height is tough to look over. I would consider him amogst the top 3 pics
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/03/2011 - 8:45am #539578
European BallerParticipantHe is 10 times better than the awful Rubio is.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 12:03pm #541631
JimmeredYaWabafetParticipantis new, and shiny.MemberJoin Date: Apr 2010Posts: 138Representing:

If we draft this guy when any one of Walker, Knight, Kanter or even Jonas goddamn Valucianas are still on the board, I completely quit this team.This guy is a fucking joke and a walking draft bust. When your specialty is dunking and you can’t shoot, defend or rebound you are completely useless.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 2:01pm #541674

paradigmnParticipantin JAN VESELY’s last game in Europe with his Partizan club, he helped them to their 10th straight tittle. He had 18pts and 7reb, while shooting 7-9 from the field. Good way to go out on top….http://www.eurobasket.com/Serbia/basketball.asp?NewsID=228350
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/08/2011 - 2:05pm #541676

rileymcshea3ParticipantThis guuy could be a great player thats why i have him going 3rd to the Jazz
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