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- Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2011 - 7:36am #29116
Mr. 19134ParticipantIn one of the most interesting storylines of this years NBA Draft it has just been revealed at the combine that The Morris Twins have never been separated for more then 4 hours or some ridiculously low time period. Apparently they finish each others sentences and took all the same classses at Kansas. I wonder if they bedded the same women too. Anyways in a draft full of question marks The Morris Twins are 2 of the more certain products in this years draft.
Marcus Morris insisted on working out with the Small Forwards and looked like he belonged. Despite his bulky frame Marcus was extremly effortless going thru the drills and his offensive polish was evident in the small sample size at the combine.
Even more impressive was Markieff who looks like he is in phenonemal shape and is displaying what I would call a perfect skill set for the modern PF position. Markieff is beating the other PF’s down the floor in wind sprints, is hitting his outside J’s and is still a monster down low with his frame and footwork.
What do you guys think is the best fit for these guys and which one do you think will come off the board first. The consensus has Marcus going before Markieff but I would take Markieff first depending on team needs.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2011 - 8:11am #533386
Mr. 19134ParticipantWow really nobody has an opinion?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2011 - 8:21am #533393
JoeWolf1I think they’re both gone in the lottery when all is said and done, but I have a hard time thinking they’ll get drafted by the same team. Charlotte would be the closest they would get, but Keiff will most certainly be off the board by #19. They are very well polished players and are gym rats, the twin thing is a little weird, but a team like Golden State or Pheonix could benefit from both of them if they are willing to make a trade.
Whether they end up playing on the same team or not, I expect both of them to be producers as rookies. Keiff is a perfect pick and pop power forward who has a great back to the basket game and Marcus has the ability to be a physically powerful 235-240 lb small forward with a very well rounded all round game.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2011 - 9:42am #533434
Memphis MadnessParticipantAs far as power forwards go, they are two of the best ones out there. They offer good value outside the top 8 or 9. They both know how to play basketball and have shown that they can actually produce as opposed to some guys who are relying on "potential."
I think that either one could give you 10 or 12 points and 6 or 7 rebounds a game. But in this draft, I wouldn’t bet on any other forward prospect doing that much. Lots of upside picks in the draft, and I think some of these gambles aren’t gonna pay off.
I think this is a weird draft, in that I don’t really know why Kyrie Irving is a better pick over Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker. … not sure if Tristan Thompson showed me enough. Yeah, he is big but it is hard to tell if he has real skill or if he is just bigger than the other guys. The Morris twins have some skill to go along with hustle and good fundamentals. The Morris twins can probably figure out how to win games for teams — which should be important in competitive sports.
Not sure what to make of Nolan Smith. He led his team to an ACC championship and a 1 seed, but he didn’t play too well off the ball when Irving came back. Does that mean that Nolan Smith isn’t a good shooting guard prospect or does it mean that Nolan Smith is as good of a point guard as Kyrie Irving (Smith started at point guard and beat UNC for the ACC title. Irving started at point guard in a blowout loss to Arizona. UNC had the higher seed in the tourney. UNC also had the better point guard in Kendall Marshall as opposed to MoMo Jones for Arizona). Supposedly, Irving has a ton of "upside" but he is not as fast as Rose, or Westbrook, or Wall or even Conley and he is not as athletic as those other guys. Nor is he as fast as Kemba Walker or the shooter that Brandon Knight is.
My thinking is, if a team wants to pick a guy with "upside" then draft one with real upside like Bismack Biyombo who can rebound, block shots, and finish strong as opposed to a guy like Jonas or Jan or can do the same things Biyombo can — but not as good.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2011 - 12:10pm #533550
Im Your FatherParticipantIrving has been getting killed on these boards lately. In my mind he is a much better passer than Knight, or Walker for that matter. In terms of his speed, I don’t really know where you get the idea that it will be hinderance. No he isn’t as fast as Westbrook, Rose or Wall…those are three of the fastest players in the league. He is however at least as quick as Conley, with a very nice burst.
Also, I’m not really sure how you can knock him for the Arizona game. His team was playing like crap and Smith couldn’t hit a shot to save his life. Frankly, I find it pretty impressive that he was able to drop 28 against an excellent team after sitting out the vast majority of the season before that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2011 - 10:40am #534003
Mr. 19134ParticipantThanks guys for the well thought out feedback.
@Joe Wolf you always have well articulated comments. It’s very far fetched they end up on the same team but in reality they would be an amazing combo for a team. If a team were to leave this draft with both the Morris Twins you have to think they had one of the best drafts and would get an automatic A. Marcus is a combo forward and Markieff is a combo big man who has nice height for a PF and enough gurth to play C. And the best part is they don’t replicate each other’s skill set plus it’s always a bonus when you have 2 guys on the court who can communicate without talking. These guys are identical twins so they are hard wired to have that 6th sense and know what each other is thinking. That’s like a cheat code out their on the court.
@ Memphis Madness I kinda get what you’re saying but you’re also looking at things on the surface too much. Nolan Smith’s skill set tranlsates to a Lou Williams, George Hill type player in the NBA. He has the speed and scoring ability to be able to provide a spark off the bench. Kid Kyrie has that "it" and just knows how to play basketball at a highly advanced level. Remember that Irving before the injury came in as a freshman and took Smith’s start PG spot because he was just simple "That Good" Coach K said himself that even tho Duke was returning seniors from the National Championship team that nobody had a problem with Irving starting because he was obviously just better then everybody. No doubt Kyrie is a prodigy I just doubt like you if he is that once a decade prodigy or just a very very very good starting PG who can run your franchise and be a fringe all star.
@ Im Your Father: I think you’re a scumbag. Wait a minute…no you’re not. I’m just f*cc*n wit you cuz I got nothing to do. Anyways it’s funny how fast people change sides aint it? Wasn’t everybody on Irving’s wagon all year and now because commentators and alike are hating on how he didn’t participate in the combine everybody else wants to do the same? Irving is no doubt a top 3 pick in this draft he should probably go one because Cleveland needs a future PG. But outside of positional needs Irving scores the same as Derrick Williams and Enes Kanter on my board. I think all 3 of these guys should be in the discuion for the first pick. Irving is no doubt a tier above Walker, and Knight because of his youth, poise, court vision, and game management ability.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2011 - 11:44am #534048
zebanoParticipantI can’t think of two players that excite me less than the Morris twins simply because in my mind they’re proven commodities who won’t be starter level quality, but if you need depth, they’re a sure bet. I’m also not sure I buy the Marcus as a SF line either.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2011 - 1:02pm #534069
JoeWolf1I wouldn’t count them out as starter caliber players just yet. A lot of guys make you drool with wingspans and measurements in hope you can teach them to play basketball.
The twins can play, are highly skilled and have great work ethics. They aren’t viewed as players with amazing upside, but take a look all the starters and productive players in the NBA and neither are a lot of those guys.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/25/2011 - 9:55am #535788
Mr. 19134ParticipantMarkieff Morris is a clear cut starting power forward in this league. Marcus Morris is a Jeff Green type that can start an excel in certain situations and be a bench player in others.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/25/2011 - 10:45am #535813
kobyzParticipanti love Marcus Morris potential as a big SF with great scoring instinct, wonderful turnaround jumper, ability to post up other 3’s using is big budy and good accuracy from deep, i see him with best case of Jamal Mashburn and Al Harrington at worst!
Markieff Morris remind me the most last year lottery pick Patrick Patterson, Late bloomer, someone with excellent build fot the PF position, player that just solid at almost every aspect but doesn’t overwhelm at anything, i also see some Robert Horry in him as far as being a feisty, high iq guy who make all around winning plays and can stretch the floor with his shooting range.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/25/2011 - 1:53pm #535902
kobyzParticipantright now i have Marcus picked at #13 to Phoenix and Markieff going to his home town Philadelphia at #16
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