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  • #29100
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    Mr. Basketball
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    I don’t hear this being talked about very much, but I feel it is definitely noteworthy.  With the expiration of the CBA on June 30th of this year, the NBA will make some adjustments to things around the league by the time the 2011-2012 season starts.  Now while I have heard rumors about the possibility of the addition of a franchise tag or a hard cap, the one that most stood out to me was the rumor that the NBA wants to raise the age limit from 19 years of age to 20 years old.  This would have major implications on the 2012 draft.  What is supposed to be the best draft since 2003, the 2012 draft would weaken considerably.  High school stars such as Austin Rivers, Anthony Davis, James McAdoo, Quincy Miller, and Marquis Teague would all be forced to wait two seasons before entering the NBA.  It is said that at least two-thirds of the league owners would approve of this age limit change.  So is this really going to happen?  If so, why isn’t anyone talking about it? 

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  • #533258
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    NiceWithTheRock
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    Woah take it easy. I doubt 2012 will be better than 08/09 much less 03. Anyway the higher age limit could affect the draft, but Barnes, P.Jones, T.Jones, Sullinger and a host of others will be eligible so i think it’s in good shape.

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  • #533260
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    Mr. 19134
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     No you are definitly right about it being a big issue and it will be discussed over and over until we’re sick of hearing it like the NFL Lockout and their impending Rookie Salary Scale.  

    I personaly completely disagree with the rule making people wait til they are 20 you should not be allowed to deny somebody from making a living.  A lot of these athlete come from a poor background and don’t have the money to wait til they are 20 but certainly have the talent to be in the league.  You should be allowed to play in the NBA whenever you are good enough.  Look at Josh Selby who is being punished for basically being poor and in turn accepting a few extra dollars.  I think this is ridiculous and look at somebody like Kanter would was dying to play in college and they wouldn’t let him.  I disaprove of anything that might benefit the NCAA.

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  • #533261
    r377r377
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    With the amount of billions of dollars wasted on NBA busts I think making the age limit to 20 a great idea…

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  • #533265
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    Hitster
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    Would the rule change definitely come in for the 2012 season, when the one year removed rule came in we certainly knew in 2005 that this would affect the 2006 draft thus pushing Greg Oden and Kevin Durant into the 2007 draft. If a similar change came in I feel that it would probably affect players going to college from the 2012-13 season so the likes of Andre Drummond and co would know that when they made their college choice it would be for two years until 2014 draft.

    This would allow transparancy in college recruitment with players knowing that a freshman could return but not having made a choice and suddenly finding a star frshman lets say Anthony Davis at UK next season has to return for his sophomore season due to a rule change and they are stuck on the bench behind him when they could have say gone to Duke or Baylor for example knowing with much more certainty they would receive the sort of playing minutes they were after.

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  • #533266
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    khaled_a_d
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    don’t think it is gonna happen,people takes whatever the owners says about the CBA like they can do whatever they want
    we shouldn’t forget that NBPA also are pushing for canceling the one and done rule
    tbh I don’t think this will happen,and I like the rule the way it is

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  • #533267
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    sheltwon3
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    At what point has evidence supported age as being the factor that Gm’s suck.  There have been more seniors and juniors that were bust of percentage than younger players.  I think Gm’s are using that as an excuse and when they get it to 20 they will continue to say that if a player had one more year we would not pick busts.

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  • #533272
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    omphalos
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    Even if this does come into effect, it’s possible that players already in college are exempted to avoid having a very weak draft class in 2012.

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  • #533291
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    SwatLakeCity
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     This solution always seems to be something to resort to. When the NBA thinks that players are too immature, thus resulting in plenty of busts, then just decide to push the age limit futher one more year. It went from 18 to 19 and now it appears it will go from 19 to 20. Is this really the best way to do it? I don’t think so. I do like the 1 and done rule but I think its good the way it is. No matter you are going to have some busts, you are going to have some immature kid enter the draft before it is his time. Take a look at some of the stupid choices to enter the draft this year. Cory Joseph, Jereme Richmond to name a few. So many are just too "NBA happy." They think they are good enough for the NBA even they did nothing in college and were very immature, they don’t realize that the NBA is a business just as much as it is a basketball league. But unfortunately those kinds of kids are always going to be around, no matter what you do.

    Another point I need to make is that some kids are not meant for college. They do not succeed in the classroom. They succeed on the basketball court. Kids like Josh Selby and others as well. The bad thing about the one and done rule is it forces 18 year old kids to either go to college or play overseas before they make it to the NBA. Playing overseas cost a ton of money alot more than simply going to college. Most if not all 18 year old kids do not have that kind of money so they are practically forced to go to college for a year and then come to the NBA, whether they like it or not. I still believe that the age limit should be 19, but I believe that there is a better way to help these 18 year-old kids mature without forcing them to go to college. 

    The NBA has a junior legue if you will called the NBADL or simply the D-league. Why don’t we use it like baseball does as a way to further educate the 18 year old kids. Why isn’t there a rule saying that before any 18 year old kid comes to the NBA they either have to go to college, play internationally, or go to the D-league all for at least a year. The D-league can be used as a way for those kids that are not meant for college but still do not have the money to play internationally. 

    There is a better way to mature 18 year old kids before they reach the NBA.

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  • #533295
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    ghettosermon
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    ^^

    Even in the current system graduated high school players are allowed to play in the d-league if they want. Latavious Williams did that. He skipped college and went straight to the D-leauge although there were other variables in him deciding that. Also I don’t understand what you mean when you say playing overseas costs these kids too much money. They are being paid to play professionally. Why would it cost them money to play overseas?

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  • #533297
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    omphalos
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    If the NBA wants to raise the age-limit, they should increase the salaries for the D-League so it becomes a more viable option for players who would be giving up a college scholarship to play there.

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  • #533299
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    ^^ Where would the money be coming from? These D-league games generate no revenue, they are hardly televised except on NBA TV, they don’t have many investors you can’t just get this money out of no where unless you want to tap into the NBA’s budget and downgrade the quality of the NBA presentation. Anyways if the league wants to raise the age limit it’s because they want kids to go to school. I’m sure David Stern wont’ feel obliged to make it more desirable for kids to skip college as that defeats his purpose of raising the age limit. While I am against the age limit raise because it keeps superstars out of the league for a couple of years, the benefit is pretty clear if you look at the NFL. Making kids stay in school longer weeds out the guys who get drafted on "potential" plus it makes the college game better. Anyways what’s an extra year or two for these kids. Most first rounders don’t make immediate impacts, they might as well continue to get playing time on the college level than being sent down to the D-league to play journey men. All in the process these kids will learn the value of getting a degree. If a guy feels so above the college game than he can go to Europe and test the waters over there first.

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  • #533324
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    apb540
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     I disaprove of anything that might benefit the NCAA.

    AGREED Mr. 19134.

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  • #533335
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    joecheck88
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    i personally love the idea of making it 20 or 2 removed from high school. they are not telling kids you cant make a living, they are telling them you need more experience for the job which happens in every other workplace in america. i was 18 and had 2 kids and a wife i was supporting by myself(no govt aid, nothing) on 25000 a year. i had my own place, car, and bills. was it a struggle? yes, but its what i had to do. i wasnt denied an oppritunity to make a living but i couldnt just leave high school and get a great job because i had no experience. this possible rule change is no different. go play in the dleague or overseas or go to college. make the decision based on your needs but dont blame the nba because they want the best of the best. if they feel like 20 years old is best for the nba, they should do it. as far as the nbpa, they should be in favor of it as well because that means vets could most likely get an extra year or 2 of service, possibly.

    so again i like the possible change. i think it hurts a select group of high schoolers(lebron, d howard, and amare) but honestly i cant see anthony davis(#1 hs prospect) playing in the league in the next 2 years. the percentage of high schoolers that made an impact in their first year is low. many guys became stars a few years in but only a few were roy candidates. so 2 years doesnt really hurt a player, and i think it helps the nba.

    it would also help the ncaa which is the downside to it. they are a bunch of crooks who make up rules as they go.

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