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- Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 7:58am #28737
clawlinParticipantCan anyone post it? It’s ESPN insider.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 8:42am #529988

providencefriars1ParticipantHere is the whole mock plus preceding article. I copy and pasted from ESPN.com written by Chad Ford
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All year we have kept tabs on the stock of the Top 100 prospects. The list is a reflection of the consensus of NBA scouts and GMs about a player’s relative value in the draft.
A mock draft is a different animal altogether. In a mock draft, we don’t tell you where a player should go but rather what each team in the draft likely would do with its pick.
At this point, very little is set in stone. Expect this mock draft to fluctuate greatly over the course of the next eight weeks.
We still don’t know which underclassmen will withdraw from the draft by the May 8 deadline. And we aren’t even sure of the draft order yet. We won’t know the results of the NBA draft lottery until May 17.
The process of team workouts has just started. Over the next few weeks, the Chicago NBA pre-draft combine, the adidas Eurocamp and hundreds of team workouts will dramatically alter the face of the draft.
Still, we have a pretty good feel for who’s going to be in and we do know the lottery odds, so it’s time for our first full mock draft of 2011. (If you want to check out what your team would do with the No. 1 pick, check out our Lottery Mock Draft Machine with more than 2,000 scenarios.)
But for now, here’s our best stab at a full first-round mock draft, after taking into account team needs.
Note: Kentucky’s Terrence Jones withdrew from the draft on May 7. He was listed as the 11th pick in the draft going to the Golden State Warriors. The Mock has been updated to reflect his withdrawal along with new information we’ve received since publishing the Mock on May 5.
PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS 

Minnesota
(25 percent chance of winning lottery)
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-2
Weight: 180 pounds
Age: 19
School: DukeAnalysis: Stop with the David Kahn-drafting-a-point-guard jokes and you’ll realize … sixth time is a charm. Yes, Kahn has drafted three point guards and signed another two via free agency in his two-year term. But to date, none of them has panned out.
Two of them — Ramon Sessions and Ty Lawson — were traded. Ricky Rubio is still hanging out in Spain with no definitive answer on when he’s coming to the NBA. Jonny Flynn has been a major disappointment, and Luke Ridnour is not the future of the franchise.
Irving, on the other hand, makes perfect sense for the young Wolves. He has the most potential of any of the guards Kahn has recruited. He also has a high basketball IQ, can shoot (something the Wolves really need) and is a high-character player (another thing they could use).
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Cleveland
(19.9% chance of winning lottery)
Position: SF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 241
Age: Turns 20 on May 25
School: ArizonaAnalysis: Williams is an interesting fit for the Cavs. They’d prefer Irving. But if they can’t get him, Williams is the guy. If you project him as a small forward, he fits an immediate need. The Cavs still are trying to fill the huge hole left by LeBron James. Williams can’t fill it, but he’s a terrific talent.
If you project him as an undersized 4 in the mold of David West, he’s competing with J.J. Hickson (the Cavs’ only other young building block of note) for a spot in the starting lineup. That’s not ideal for a team that has major holes to fill, but the truth is Williams is the only other player on the Big Board worthy of a top-two pick.
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Toronto
(15.6% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 255
Age: Turns 19 on May 20
Country: TurkeyAnalysis: Bryan Colangelo has a thing for international players. But that’s not the only reason we have Kanter going No. 3. Going into the season, a number of scouts considered him a potential No. 1 pick. Thanks to the NCAA, we never got to see whether he could earn it — but Kanter has a lot going for him.
He is tough, can play inside and out, rebounds the basketball and has a higher basketball IQ than most of the kids his age. He’s a bit undersized for a center, but his toughness in the paint will be a welcome contrast to Andrea Bargnani’s Charmin-soft game.
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Washington
(11.9% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech RepublicAnalysis: The Wizards won the draft lottery last year and brought in a thoroughbred in John Wall. What they need is an athletic forward to run the floor with him. Most Euros wouldn’t come close to fitting that bill, but Vesely might be the exception. He’s terrific in transition and an explosive leaper — a rarity for Eastern European kids.
He’s been a starter in the Euroleague for the past few years, and while his numbers don’t necessarily wow you, his game looks like it will translate better at the next level. A bit of a risky pick, but after Irving and Williams are off the board, all the picks are risky.
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Sacramento
(7.6% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 172
Age: Turns 21 on May 8
School: UConnAnalysis: The Kings have finally come to two realizations in the past year. One, Tyreke Evans isn’t a point guard. Two, character and leadership matter. Enter Walker. Not only does he play the right position, but no one in college basketball showed more heart, leadership or a desire to win than Kemba this past season. He has his weaknesses, but he should give the Kings something they really haven’t had in a while — a winner.
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Utah
(via New Jersey)
(7.5% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 185
Age: 18
School: KentuckyAnalysis: The Jazz acquired this pick in their February trade-deadline deal with the Nets. They lost All-Star point guard Deron Williams in the deal but picked up this pick, Derrick Favors and Devin Harris in return. The Jazz like Harris but see Knight as a potential franchise player down the road.
Knight’s freshman season was up and down, but he has a few qualities that make him a terrific fit in Utah. He is big, plays defense, shoots the ball well and is a great kid on and off the court. He should be a perfect fit with the Jazz.
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Detroit
(4.3% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: CongoAnalysis: Joe Dumars began building the 2000 edition of the Bad Boys around an unheralded, undrafted big man named Ben Wallace a decade ago. Wallace was raw offensively, but his athleticism, length and aggressiveness on the defensive end set the tone for the Pistons for a decade.
The past few years, the Pistons have lost virtually all of that mojo. Biyombo might be the perfect remedy for what ails them. He has burst onto the scene and could be a risk. But it’s hard to find his combination of length, athleticism and motor at this point in the draft. He should be a perfect complement to the more offensive-oriented Greg Monroe on the Pistons’ front line.
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Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)
(2.8% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 19
Country: LithuaniaAnalysis: The Cavs had a lot of luck with another Lithuanian big man a decade ago — Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Can lightning strike twice? Some scouts believe he’s the most talented international player in the draft. But questions about his contract situation in Europe combined with fears that he lacks the elite athleticism he needs to compete in the NBA lower his stock a bit. At this point in the draft, he’s worth the risk.
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Charlotte
(1.7% chance of winning lottery)
Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 225
Age: 19
School: San Diego StateAnalysis: The Bobcats are a mess. They have some talent. But they also have huge needs at every position on the floor. Leonard might be a bit of a reach this high, but his game reminds me a bit of a young Gerald Wallace.
He plays with a terrific combination of length, athleticism and motor. While he’s not as accomplished a ball handler, he’s a better rebounder and shooter than Wallace was at this age. The Bobcats certainly can use both his toughness and his versatility.
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Milwaukee
(1.1% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 20
School: TexasAnalysis: The Bucks have two terrific building blocks in Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings — but after that, it’s mostly question marks. They traded last summer for Corey Maggette and signed John Salmons and Drew Gooden as free agents, and none of them really panned out as expected.
They really could use help at the 2, 3 and 4 positions. I have Thompson here because, of the players on the board, he’s the most likely to be a Scott Skiles-type player. He’s tough, aggressive and just a beast on the offensive boards. His skill level isn’t particularly high on the offensive end yet, but he’s a good fit alongside Bogut on the front line.
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Golden State
(0.8% chance of winning lottery)
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 235
Age: 21
School: KansasAnalysis: We had the Warriors selecting Terrence Jones in the last mock. But with Jones out, they move on to Morris. Morris is more of a hybrid forward who can play both the 3 and the 4, sort of like Danny Granger. His ability to stretch the floor and rebound should be welcome in Golden State.
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Utah
(0.7% chance of winning lottery)
Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 195
Age: 19
School: ColoradoAnalysis: The Jazz have traditionally lacked a scoring athletic slasher in the backcourt. It’s been an acknowledged need for years. This might be the year that brings changes. Burks is one of the most athletic guards in the draft. He has a quick first step and is a terrific finisher at the rim. His lack of a consistent jump shot and motor lowers his stock a bit. But at this point in the draft, he’s worth the risk.
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Phoenix
(0.6% chance of winning lottery)
Position: SG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Brigham YoungAnalysis: Steve Nash won’t be around forever, and if the Suns want to continue to play their run-and-gun style, Fredette might be a great option. Like Nash, he is a dead-eye from long range and has a high basketball IQ.
He doesn’t have the ballhandling skills or court vision of Nash yet … but neither did Nash when he was drafted out of Santa Clara. Fredette’s terrible defense raises concerns, but at least he’s a fit on a team that has been willing to overlook Nash’s weakness in that area for years.
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Houston
(0.5% chance of winning lottery)
Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 220
Age: 20
School: TexasAnalysis: Hamilton would be a great get for the Rockets here if he’s still on the board. He might be the best pure scorer in the draft. Hamilton has unlimited range and is always hunting for his shot.
His shot selection is flat-out embarrassing at times, but when he gets it going, he’s very tough to stop. The biggest question will be whether there’s enough shots for both Hamilton and Kevin Martin.
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Indiana

Position: PF/C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 245
Age: 21
School: KansasAnalysis: The Pacers’ two biggest needs are an athletic guard who can create his own shot off the dribble, and a long, athletic big man who can block shots and rebound. Unfortunately neither of those players appears to be left on the board. So the Pacers have to settle for the next best thing.
Morris gives them depth at the 4 and the 5 and his ability to stretch the floor and rebound should be welcome in Indiana. Boston College’s Reggie Jackson is another real possibility here.
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Philadelphia

Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: LithuaniaAnalysis: The Sixers have a ton of talent in the backcourt. But their frontcourt is a mess. Thaddeus Young is a free agent and a bit of a tweener. Elton Brand rebounded a bit this season, but his best days are behind him. Motiejunas might not be the answer, but at this point in the draft, he’s worth a look. He’s an aggressive scorer who can get to the rim. However, his lack of rebounding and defense are issues.
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New York

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead StateAnalysis: The Knicks need size, rebounding and shot-blocking and no one has been better at that in college than Faried. He has relentless motor on the defensive end. He’s a big upgrade over the guy Mike D’Antoni liked to play in the middle — Jared Jeffries.
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Washington
(via Atlanta)
Position: PG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 202
Age: 21
School: Washington St.Analysis: Nick Young is heading into free agency, and the Wizards could use another shooter in their backcourt to complement Wall. Thompson rivals Fredette as the best shooter in the draft and would be a great fit for the Wizards.
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Charlotte
(via New Orleans)
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston CollegeAnalysis: The Bobcats, as we noted, have needs just about everywhere. Jackson might be the biggest sleeper of the draft and should be a great fit in Charlotte. He is a terrific athlete, has a ridiculous 7-foot wingspan and shot the lights out this junior season. He has virtually every quality you look for in a modern NBA point guard.
The biggest question I have is whether he’ll even be around at this point once he hits the Chicago combine and workouts. I think he could have a Paul George-type rise in this draft. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Bobcats ultimately considering him at No. 9.
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Minnesota (via Memphis)

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: SerbiaAnalysis: Rest easy, Wolves fans. No, we don’t have Minnesota taking yet another point guard here. Instead, we have the team taking a point forward. Mirotic is a serious talent — a versatile forward playing at a very high level in the Euroleague right now.
There are some serious questions about his buyout right now (not sure the Wolves want to revisit this again), but at this point in the draft, he’s a great value. If his contract were clean and he could come right away, he’d be a lottery pick.
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Portland

Position: PG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 190
Age: 20
School: MichiganAnalysis: Morris’ best comp in the league may be a young Andre Miller. He’s a big, power guard who sees the floor well and can make the spectacular pass. He’s not an elite athlete or a great shooter yet, but he’s the most improved player in college basketball this year.
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Denver

Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 226
Age: 18
School: TennesseeAnalysis: The Nuggets have a very bright future, post-Carmelo Anthony. The trade that netted them Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler for Melo might have worked out better for Denver than it did for New York. While the backcourt looks set with Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo, and Nene and Gallinari look like the future on the front line, there’s still a need in the frontcourt.
Chandler is a free agent, and the Nuggets might not want to meet his asking price. Harris might be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, has a very high basketball IQ and has an NBA body. He doesn’t do any one thing at an elite level, but he’s one of the most well-rounded players in the draft.
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Houston
(via Orlando)
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Florida StateAnalysis: The Rockets lost an elite defender when they traded away Shane Battier. Singleton might be the best perimeter defensive player in the draft. He can guard three positions on the floor and shut down virtually everything with his length, strength and quickness. His offensive game is a still a work in progress, but that’s not going to discourage teams this late in the draft.
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Oklahoma City

Position: G/F
Height: 6-8
Weight: 188
Age: 20
School: UCLAAnalysis: The Thunder are solid at virtually every position on the floor. But with Jeff Green being shipped off to Boston this year, Honeycutt could come in and bring some depth. Honeycutt isn’t as big as Green, but he’s a talented, versatile wing with a great basketball IQ. He’d be a great fit in OKC.
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Boston

Position: C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: MarylandAnalysis: The Celtics traded away Kendrick Perkins and have missed him. They grabbed Perkins years ago late in the first round and Williams could be another potential sleeper. He’s big, physical and was one of the best rebounders in college basketball this season. If he can get into shape, he could be a really good pick.
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Dallas

Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: LatviaAnalysis: It’s unfair to compare any young European player to Dirk Nowitzki. But after watching Bertans shoot the lights out in the practices at the Nike Hoop Summit, that’s how some scouts were referring to him. Bertans doesn’t have Nowitzki’s size or strength and looks to be a pretty serious project. But long term, he could be a really nice addition for the Mavs.
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New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)
Position: PF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: RichmondAnalysis: Harper played off the radar for most of the season, but scouts really like him. He is a good athlete, has good size and can really stroke the basketball. He plays a bit like a young Rashard Lewis. He won’t take over games very often but is a nice complementary player.
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Chicago
(via Miami)
Position: SG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 220
Age: 22
School: HoftstraAnalysis: The Bulls still miss the explosive scoring off the bench that Ben Gordon used to deliver. While it’s a stretch to compare Jenkins to him, it’s not totally off. Jenkins can stroke the basketball and was one of the most explosive scorers in college basketball. A sleeper for the late first round.
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San Antonio

Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 218
Age: 18
Country: BrazilAnalysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they are ready. Noguiera seems like a good candidate.
He’s long, athletic and a terrific shot-blocker. He just needs more experience and about 30 pounds of muscle. A few years in Europe should help prepare him.
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Chicago

Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 200
Age: 22
Country: CroatiaAnalysis: Bogdanovic likely will stay in Europe the next few years thanks to a new lucrative contract in Spain. But he could be an asset for the Bulls — especially when they already have another pick in the first round.
Next Five In: Josh Selby, G, Kansas; Trey Thompkins, PF, Georgia; Travis Leslie, SG, Georgia; Jon Leuer, PF, Wisconsin; JaJuan Johnson, F, Purdue.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 9:41am #530006

providencefriars1ParticipantI cant believe he doesnt have Thompkins as a 1st rounder but has Harper and Jenkins. And where’s my boy Marshon Brooks
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:01am #530019

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantWhen Mirotic signed his extension with Real Madrid, they spoke of how while he was signed through 2017 that they really hoped to keep him through 2016 (with the unstated meaning that they would also get a buyout from an NBA team while also having him for five more years). I think there are teams that will be willing in this draft to absorb that kind of wait time, but not Minnesota. They have been brutal for so long that they cannot defer talent acquisition again.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:12am #530024

Afactor4ParticipantWow, he has Bismack and Kemba THAT high!? Not sure I would agree to that. And I don’t understand what his logic was with the back to back places of Kemba and Brandon Knight.
But then again, who am I to argue, this is his profession, and only my hobby.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:12am #530025
gopack10ParticipantAnd people (AKOO) are still talking bad about the Hawks giving up this year’s draft pick for Hinrich. This draft is WEAK. This mock shows how weak it is outside of the top three and even those guys aren’t "can’t miss" type of guys. You can also see how the lockout is affecting this draft with the enormous amount of international players being drafted since most of them will be stashed over seas for a few years and the teams won’t have to pay them.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:17am #530029
khaled_a_dParticipantBTPH you are right,even though I doubt he will stay until 2016 also If I am gonna compare Davis Bertans to any great Euro player then Peja is the name not Dirk also is it me or there is 9 international players in the mock (10 if you count Tristan Thompson ) if that happened is it a record?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:25am #530033

HitsterParticipantMotiejunas looks a little low at 16, I bet if he fell that far then a few teams would look to trade up and get him. Biyombo still seems way too high, could Dumars risk picking him when there may not be any return for a long while although Big Ben would be a great mentor for him.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:52am #530043

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant"BTPH you are right,even though I doubt he will stay until 2016"
http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/nikola_mirotic
"I wouldn’t go to the NBA this summer even if I’m a Top 5 pick. I like it a lot here, I’m very comfortable and, like I said, I have a lot of challenges here."
"Nikola Mirotic has signed a contract that will keep him in a Real Madrid jersey until at least 2016. The deal included an opt-out clause that would allow him to leave for the NBA. The cost would be 3.5 million euros ($5 million)."
Nikola Mirotic: "Honestly, I don’t think about the NBA and I’m not attracted by it like other young players. The fact that I’m declaring for this draft doesn’t mean I’m thinking about in the NBA and going there."
Maybe he doesn’t stay until 2016, but he doesn’t seem to be itching to play in the NBA. Would you want to spend a first round pick and wait five years for a Ryan Anderson-type player? I don’t think there are very many teams who would.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 11:25am #530060
khaled_a_dParticipantI read that too,but so what?Euro players leave their teams before their contracts are over all the time with much less money than their buyout (see Rubio)
And “Rubio not joining the NBA” case was different since his team was desperate for money and he was their super star and a very popular player ,that isn’t the same as Mirotic is playing for the richest club in the planet (in all sports) and he isn’t there star at all
I am not saying Mirotic will come next summer but I think it will be about 2014,
other wise why he entered that draft ? he can wait until 2013 and in 2016 he will be able to negotiate his contract whether he was 1st or second round pick
so I am guessing he is entering this draft so that he can negotiate a contract in 20140 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 11:53am #530069

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantI didn’t mention Rubio which is a different situation. Rubio wanted to dictate NBA placement, not stay away.
With the growth of the game globally, more and more players do not see the huge benefit in playing a lesser role in the NBA on a bad team than having a greater role on a winner elsewhere. It is something to be cognoscente of. Roko Ukic gave up money to leave. There was a rumor last month that Ersan Ilyasova might look to return to Fenerbahçe Ülker. Vassilis Spanoulis dropped one of the great NBA player lines ever, “I wasTracy McGrady back home. Great. McGrady is McGrady here.” He couldn’t wait to get back to Greece. Fran Vázquez was taken in 2005 by Orlando, and has never really been all that interested in coming over. What he is saying is not insignificant.
Now, I do think that a player like Mirotic would be more interested in joining the NBA earlier should a team like Chicago (who with 2 first round picks and likely having their 11 top players returning next year won’t necessarily want to bring over their picks) take him as opposed to Washington or Minnesota, but that is just a hunch.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/09/2011 - 11:58am #530075
khaled_a_dParticipantwell,I agree with you,
he wants to stay now any way,what is gonna be in his mind 3 years ?nobody knows,even him ,at this point it is just a hunch0 - AuthorPosts
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