Fredette and Scout

 An inch or two? Lol, Gordon jumps a mile higher! Ben Gordon has hops… but idk, maybe you can compare hime to Bibby or Douglass if that makes you feel better. 

I agree I think fredette is closer to ben gordon than to kapono or korver. He kind of reminds me of jason terry. I think he wil be a great pro based on the fact that he can handle the ball. He kind if reminds me of steve nash the way he shields the ball away from defenders on layups. I know he won’t be steve nash, but I think Little things like that will help him succeed

he makes shots that Nash and Dirk make,but his build/speed is just like Bibby’s though Jimmer is a much better shooter

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Same scouts said Nash wouldn’t ever be more than a back up (and that was while he was in the NBA) because he wasn’t athletic enough, good enough D. But sometimes it depends on what system a player goes to ( thought this and then heard it repeated on Mike and Mike

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Is exactly that. I think sometimes it is very hard to compare, I will say it, white players to players of different races usually due to the athletic discrepancies. Ben Gordon’s jumper is pure gold as well, you are talking about a guy who was the leading scorer on a National championship team, and also a better athlete than Jimmer. I think Jimmer has a great skill set, and I think most of the players that scout named are pretty wack comparisons, but I find it hard to find a comparison for him as well. I would say a mix between Stephen Curry and JJ Reddick, but I guess that makes me racist as well, lol. It is very hard to make a comparison for him, but who cares about them anyway?

Just kind of project how you think he is going to do, because I truly doubt that you will find a player whose athleticism and game compares to Jimmer’s in the NBA. That is why he is so difficult to project I guess, but I would say he has much more of a game off of the dribble than a Reddick, but I do not know if he has the craftiness and speed of a Curry. That is the problem I have, because I think he is better than Reddick and not Curry. But I do not think he is necessarily in the league of a Ben Gordon, who has averaged 17 ppg for his career and should be a top scoring 6th man if he were not trapped in Detroit Piston SG hell. That being said, do you see Jimmer as an undersized SG rather than a PG? That is pretty much why Ben Gordon is a relegated bench scorer. Just looking through players, it is extremely had to find a good comparison. I would say a better shooting George Hill, but Hill is a much better athlete and has much more of a slashing game than Jimmer. But, it is food for thought. I think George Hill is a solid player too, so it is not hating on Jimmer in the least if people think that.

Its really tough to predict how a player like Jimmer will do in the league.  Mind you, this guy has the green light to shoot anytime from anywhere right now, which is not going to happen in the league….

Just look at Jason Kapono who was mentioned in the OP.  He was an incredible all around player at UCLA, much more than just a great shooter.  He was a very good ballhandler and got to the rim quite often.  Look at him now.  He is a nobody.  Just shoots 3s. 

Lack of defense means he has to be incredibly crafty to stick around in this league ( Nash, Mullin…. white boys again! ) and Jimmer may just have it. 

Horrible athlete…

Horrible…

I actually like the Ben Gordon comparison.

The thing about Jimmer that no one brings up is that he has faced NBA guard speed in the past two years. Some of the good teams he had played against had guards who have the speed and athletic ability of NBA players yet he still could score on them because he has a nice cross over and to some surprise, he gets pretty high on his jumper. Another thing i noticed is no matter how awkward he goes up to take a jumper he seems to always square his body up before he releases the shot which is why i think he hits shots where he seems off balance or leaning a certain way. When you square up before you release its damn near like you are going straight up and down

Jameer Nelson

If I was an NBA team, I would be less worried about Fredette’s athleticism and more worried about his shot selection and point guard abilities. It’s also important that a team with good defense fundamentals picks him up.

I love the NoMoney panned up jump shot. Not saying Jimmer does not get elevation, but it is extremely hard to say whether he is actually jumping that much higher than a player normally would. The angle makes it seem like he has Nate Robinson hops. I do not at all think he is a horrible athlete, but at the PG and SG position in the NBA, is he an elite or even average athlete? Definitely not all that matters, because I think he has some aspects of his game that well translate to him doing well in the NBA and being better than some players he faces, but it puts things in perspective.

I was waiting for someone to mention that.

My point with the picture was to show that Jimmer uses his athleticism well. He doesn’t dunk a lot or block a ton of shots, but he gets amazing elevation on his shot. The angle the photo was taken from gives the impression that the elevation was much higher than it actually was (this is also the angle some photographers use while filming dunkers), but if you watch him play it is undeniable that he utilizes his strength and athleticism to their full advantage.

Which is why I have a hard time put him in the category of the strictly white jump shooters used to compare to him. Still, I also do not necessarily think he is Ben Gordon, who I think is stronger, quicker and more athletic.

You hit the nail right on the head Ron. He uses his athletic ability, speed at the right time. He doesnt use it the whole game like a Derrick Rose or Westbrook but he does use it when he needs it which is what all the vets do. He knows how to play at more than one speed. As far as shot selection, that pretty much has to do with where he is at. When you are the only real option on youre team or you have to score alot in order for you’re team to win then youre shot selection is probably not gonna be as good as say a player who plays for Kansas where they dont need to score alot in order for the team to win. The problem will be if he goes into the NBA thinking he has to take the same shots or the same amount of shots there ( i doubt he would think that because he seems to have a high basketball I.Q). Like i said before i think he will be a guy who will thrive in a certain situation.

Eddie House

Which sounds bad at first, but House was dominant at ASU.  He was a ridiculous shooter and a good athlete, though he has been relegated to a 3 point specialist in the league.

At one point I liked Jimmer and thought he could do things but then I felt like He will be Tony Delk, Eddie Curry, Kapono all over again.  I think he could be a top 6th man off the bench but he lacks too many things to be a first option in the NBA.  His numbers look great because he is a good shooter who is the only option.  Look at what Kemba is doing now that he has the green light.  Kemba is not showing people that he is better than guys who are better NBA players who did not do this in college.  Kemba is not better than Chris Paul or Rose.  Neither is Jimmer.  Don’t confuse college stats to NBA.  There was a guys back in the day that played a Long Island college and led the league in scoring at like 30 something and he never saw an NBA game.  Miles Simon was the man back in the Arizona days with a young Bibby and Terry.  Bibby and Terry made it in but Miles Simon did more in college than both of them but he did not make it in the NBA.

House never had the handles or the ability to lead his team like Jimmer. also didnt score as much if i recall and shorter,smaller. And wasnt as good of a three point shooter

what about Jarrett Jack with better shooting?

"Do I hear anyone taking a 27-footer off the dribble?"

DID YOU SEE THAT?!

House wasn’t as big or as good off the dribble, but he was just as good a shooter with a quicker release.  He dropped 61 in a college game against Cal and averaged 23 points per game his senior year.

so i think the closest comparison is David Wesley(bigger)