D.Howard Value

Have you watched Dwight Howard at all this season?  His moves are much improved and even if you’ve only seen one game, (today) He put a couple of moves on Kendrick Perkins that left Perk pretty lost.  He was scoring at will on Glen Davis when he was trying to guard him.

You want them to trade their 25 year old franchise player?  The same player that is the best center in the league?  2 or 3rd option at best?  Are you serious?  So you’re saying his average option would be about 4th or 5th?

Dude… do you have any knowledge about basketball at all?

Have you watched Dwight Howard at all this season?  His moves are much improved and even if you’ve only seen one game, (today) He put a couple of moves on Kendrick Perkins that left Perk pretty lost.  He was scoring at will on Glen Davis when he was trying to guard him.

You want them to trade their 25 year old franchise player?  The same player that is the best center in the league?  2 or 3rd option at best?  Are you serious?  So you’re saying his average option would be about 4th or 5th?

Dude… do you have any knowledge about basketball at all?

By the way, in the last 20 years.  The only players to average 22+ppg, 13.5+rpg, 2+bpg:

• 99-00 Shaquille O’Neal, ’00 NBA MVP
• 03-04 Kevin Garnett, ’04 NBA MVP
• 92-93 Shaquille O’Neal, ’93 Rookie of the Year
• 10-11 Dwight Howard

You see how rare it is?

By the way, in the last 20 years.  The only players to average 22+ppg, 13.5+rpg, 2+bpg:

• 99-00 Shaquille O’Neal, ’00 NBA MVP
• 03-04 Kevin Garnett, ’04 NBA MVP
• 92-93 Shaquille O’Neal, ’93 Rookie of the Year
• 10-11 Dwight Howard

You see how rare it is?

posts like this baffle hes far and away the best center in the leauge noones even a close second and you wanna trade him hes putting up mvp numbers again this year tongue out great mention on how rare what hes doing this year thanx for posting it

posts like this baffle hes far and away the best center in the leauge noones even a close second and you wanna trade him hes putting up mvp numbers again this year tongue out great mention on how rare what hes doing this year thanx for posting it

Bro, there is a button located on the top right of your screen that reads "logout".

Bro, there is a button located on the top right of your screen that reads "logout".

He is not Shaq though. He had 22 in the 1st half against the C’s and then Perk and Big Baby hold  him to 6 in the second half. He can be really taken out of a game. Shaq was always a factor in his prime they applied hack a Shaq because of it. Dwight can be controled enough that you don’t have to even apply hack a Shaq rules. He has improved, but he is not consistent with any of it.

He is not Shaq though. He had 22 in the 1st half against the C’s and then Perk and Big Baby hold  him to 6 in the second half. He can be really taken out of a game. Shaq was always a factor in his prime they applied hack a Shaq because of it. Dwight can be controled enough that you don’t have to even apply hack a Shaq rules. He has improved, but he is not consistent with any of it.

Dwight still has a way to go offensively, but to say that he is a 2nd or 3rd option AT BEST is a slap to the face!

Dwight still has a way to go offensively, but to say that he is a 2nd or 3rd option AT BEST is a slap to the face!

He doesn’t have to be Shaq offensively. He’s a better rebounder and defender than Shaq was and is still the leading center in the league ins scoring. He is one of the 5 best players in the league right now and is an anchor on both ends of the court.

Trade him? Unless the Magic are absolutely convinced that he won’t resign with us as we approach the trade deadline next year we shouldn’t even entertain the notion.

He doesn’t have to be Shaq offensively. He’s a better rebounder and defender than Shaq was and is still the leading center in the league ins scoring. He is one of the 5 best players in the league right now and is an anchor on both ends of the court.

Trade him? Unless the Magic are absolutely convinced that he won’t resign with us as we approach the trade deadline next year we shouldn’t even entertain the notion.

There is only one player in the world capable of 40-20 games. He is in my opinon undisputedly the 2nd most valuable asset in the NBA. And i LOVE Rose and Durant.

There is only one player in the world capable of 40-20 games. He is in my opinon undisputedly the 2nd most valuable asset in the NBA. And i LOVE Rose and Durant.

Dwight as a defensive, rebounding force is potentially up there with the very best, okay he’s not a Shaq, Hakeem or David Robinson type scorer that they were at their peak and he may never be but few players are. But he has proven he can be a 20ppg plus player which with all his defensive and inside presence makes him clearly the best C in the NBA at the moment and one of the very top frontcourters playing at the moment.

The guy is still only 25 years old so he has numerous years in front of him and if you asked any top NBA analyst which player you would want to build a team around apart from LeBron then I bet his name would be near the top.

Dwight as a defensive, rebounding force is potentially up there with the very best, okay he’s not a Shaq, Hakeem or David Robinson type scorer that they were at their peak and he may never be but few players are. But he has proven he can be a 20ppg plus player which with all his defensive and inside presence makes him clearly the best C in the NBA at the moment and one of the very top frontcourters playing at the moment.

The guy is still only 25 years old so he has numerous years in front of him and if you asked any top NBA analyst which player you would want to build a team around apart from LeBron then I bet his name would be near the top.

He was held to 6 in the second half because Boston decided to double team him instead of the single coverage they used in the first half.

Shaq

David

also didnt win alone. Shaq has kobe,Wade

David had Duncan

He was held to 6 in the second half because Boston decided to double team him instead of the single coverage they used in the first half.

Shaq

David

also didnt win alone. Shaq has kobe,Wade

David had Duncan

Didn’t MJ,Kobe,Paul P get better after 25?…Players tend to get better after 25 and even better after 28,29 because they can’t just use there athletic ability all the time and have to use more skill,Mind. Players say Kobe and Jordan were at there best once they were older and couldn’t fly as much.

Also Paul P,Clyde Drexler couldn’t win without having a very good big man. It goes both ways for the most part a big man needs a wing and a wing needs a big man

Didn’t MJ,Kobe,Paul P get better after 25?…Players tend to get better after 25 and even better after 28,29 because they can’t just use there athletic ability all the time and have to use more skill,Mind. Players say Kobe and Jordan were at there best once they were older and couldn’t fly as much.

Also Paul P,Clyde Drexler couldn’t win without having a very good big man. It goes both ways for the most part a big man needs a wing and a wing needs a big man

 Love is capable of getting 40 n 20 and will probably get it at some point this season.

And I’ve always compared Howard to a more dominant Alonzo Mourning too before I would compare him to Shaq, or The Admiral.  

But this post is retarded Howard is still the best Center in the world and it’s not even close.  He will be the only legitimate Center at the All Star game to give you an idea of how big the gap is.  And why in the world would the Magic trade their franchise player who is 25, and is the best at his position in the entire world?  I kinda get your point about scoring but they Magic have Arenas, Richardson, Meer Meer, and Hedo to score that is why they brought in Arenas and Richardson.  

And I love how a player like Big Baby wants to talk ish.  Like dude you been guarding him since high school and claim he has the same moves still but yet you still can’t guard him whats that say about you.’

And Howard has been scoring at a way higher clip this year and has visibly improved his low post arsenal. 

 Love is capable of getting 40 n 20 and will probably get it at some point this season.

And I’ve always compared Howard to a more dominant Alonzo Mourning too before I would compare him to Shaq, or The Admiral.  

But this post is retarded Howard is still the best Center in the world and it’s not even close.  He will be the only legitimate Center at the All Star game to give you an idea of how big the gap is.  And why in the world would the Magic trade their franchise player who is 25, and is the best at his position in the entire world?  I kinda get your point about scoring but they Magic have Arenas, Richardson, Meer Meer, and Hedo to score that is why they brought in Arenas and Richardson.  

And I love how a player like Big Baby wants to talk ish.  Like dude you been guarding him since high school and claim he has the same moves still but yet you still can’t guard him whats that say about you.’

And Howard has been scoring at a way higher clip this year and has visibly improved his low post arsenal. 

Heres something interesting i didn’t think of before. Howard attempts 10 shots per game for his career. Do you know how many Shaq and David Robinson attempted for there career?  16 and 14.

Most in a season  21 by Shaq and 20 By David. Howard?..13 this year. The Magic guards tend to wanna shoot alot which is why he doesn’t get alot of attempts which explains why his ppg isn’t higher. I bet if you look at all the other big men you listed, they would have higher attempts as well

Heres something interesting i didn’t think of before. Howard attempts 10 shots per game for his career. Do you know how many Shaq and David Robinson attempted for there career?  16 and 14.

Most in a season  21 by Shaq and 20 By David. Howard?..13 this year. The Magic guards tend to wanna shoot alot which is why he doesn’t get alot of attempts which explains why his ppg isn’t higher. I bet if you look at all the other big men you listed, they would have higher attempts as well

@jionz- You don’t think it would be easy to build around Howard? Really man?? Even Phil has said Dwight would be one of the best players in the league to build around. You can find someone to score the ball, and wing players are a dime a dozen in the NBA. Just look at the Magic’s roster… Without Howard, they would be the Cavs 2.0; Just a bunch of overpaid role players who can’t play defense.. Howard is the biggest reason they have been competitive.

Prime for basketball players is 26-28. It is not 23,24, or 25… He is still pretty young, and he is still developing. It doesn’t matter who how he compares to past centers because they don’t even play anymore, and his value isn’t determined by that. The competition he has at the C position is what determines his value the most, and he is the best center in the league by a good margin even if he isn’t fully developed offensively. Even if he isn’t known for his low post moves, he still can get you 18-20 points efficiently and without the need of running plays for him.  His precense on the floor changes the game entirely.

@jionz- You don’t think it would be easy to build around Howard? Really man?? Even Phil has said Dwight would be one of the best players in the league to build around. You can find someone to score the ball, and wing players are a dime a dozen in the NBA. Just look at the Magic’s roster… Without Howard, they would be the Cavs 2.0; Just a bunch of overpaid role players who can’t play defense.. Howard is the biggest reason they have been competitive.

Prime for basketball players is 26-28. It is not 23,24, or 25… He is still pretty young, and he is still developing. It doesn’t matter who how he compares to past centers because they don’t even play anymore, and his value isn’t determined by that. The competition he has at the C position is what determines his value the most, and he is the best center in the league by a good margin even if he isn’t fully developed offensively. Even if he isn’t known for his low post moves, he still can get you 18-20 points efficiently and without the need of running plays for him.  His precense on the floor changes the game entirely.

A lot of top players especially big men win their MVP awards or first titles when they are older than 25 years old, MJ was 27/28 when he won his first title in 1991, Shaq was 28 when the Lakers won in 2000. KG, Tim Duncan and Dirk were all MVPS in their late 20’s. 

A lot of top players especially big men win their MVP awards or first titles when they are older than 25 years old, MJ was 27/28 when he won his first title in 1991, Shaq was 28 when the Lakers won in 2000. KG, Tim Duncan and Dirk were all MVPS in their late 20’s.