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  • #25270
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    Fredette Sought First Round Promise From Nets

    The Nets were inclined to take Jimmer Fredette in the late 20s of the 2010 NBA Draft, sources said, but Fredette sought a guarantee and the Nets’ past president, Rod Thorn, couldn’t bring himself to make the promise.

    “Some executives will lie to a kid and take someone else that slips down to that spot,” one close associate said. “But Rod would never do that.”

    Fredette returned to BYU and he is now one of the most talked about players in the country and has likely improved his stock.

    Talent evaluators have differing opinions on Fredette’s potential, though many use Stephen Curry as a comparison.

    “An insult to Curry’s talent,” one Eastern Conference personnel executive said.

    A Western Conference scout disagrees.

    “I’m telling you, he’s better than Stephen Curry.

    “Curry was always taking difficult, off-balance shots because he couldn’t create space like Fredette can for himself. Plus, I don’t think his team is any good. He’s doing this himself. He’s having one of the most remarkable seasons any college player’s had in the last 10 or 15 years.

    “If this kid played in the ACC or Big East, they’d be building a statue for him.”

    Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports
     
    What do you guys think? If comparing them in college I would say Fredette is better.

     

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  • #479970
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    Stephen Curry is 100% better then Jimmer. Alot of people are forgetting Curry played big teams every year he was in college and won good games too.

    Fredette is not that good. I keep telling people that.

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    Weird that Curry was compared to Mike Bibby on draftexpress, cuz one of Bibbys flaws was his footspeed, Jimmer may not have the assist to turnover ratio that Bibby had, but i really dont see another player like him to compare him to, though Mark Price’s college stats are similar to Jimmer, and Eddie House college stats werent that good.

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  • #479978
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    i think we’ll have to wait until the tourney gets started before we can make a legit comparion and contrast between the two…i havent seen him play so i wouldnt be able to say. i know curry (as much as i dont like him) tore it up in the tournaments while he was at davidson so we’ll just have to wait and see

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  • #479982
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    I see a lot of Jameer Nelson in Fredette.

    A big strong body with a great shooting touch and decent PG skills.

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  • #479983
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     Eddie House’s college stats weren’t that good??? He dropped 61 in a game and is Arizona State’s all-time leading scorer.  He dropped 23 and 5.5 as a senior. 

    I personally think he’s JJ Reddick crossed with Kirk Hinrich.  The problem with the Curry comparison is that I feel Curry has much greater point guard skills.  I think he’s worth a 20-30 pick, I really think he’ll be a reliable source of bench offense and a capable fill in starter for a long time.

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  • #479985
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    If this guy slips to the Heat.. They can actually start the kid and he can be an effective weapon.

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  • #479997
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    bigmilstead
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    More like JJ Redick than Steph. That Jr year for Steph was crucial he got to play the point and deal with the pressure of being a major college superstar. All these things are new to Jimmer. He could be a shorter Adam Morrison. Least we forget the work that JJ had to put in to be a solid rotation player.

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  • #480000
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    LAKE SHOW

    Jimmer has gotten the Chance to play point before. This isn’t new to him. He’s more Steph then J.J because of that. He still racks up assists

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    JimmeredYaWabafet
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    kanyedabest
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    curry captured the hearts of hoops fans nation wide with his cinderealla run in the tourny but boy o boy ill tell ya jimmer can ball and to be honest i think he is the better player if they matched up in college

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  • #480056
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    B Eazy
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    I’m telling you… I go to BYU. I’ve seen every game. The kid is the real deal. He’s going to bring in ticket sales no matter where he goes with that name of his. Guarantee someone will take a chance on him higher than most you guys are thinking. Appreciate the respect most you guys are showing to…kid can flat out ball!

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    Fredette is an a weird spot. He can’t control the failure of previous white college stars, but it is something that clearly impact how scouts and people perceive him. It doesn’t matter if he torched the same Florida guards that gave John Wall fits. It doesn’t matter if he had no problem scoring on “NBA athlete” Armon Johnson. It doesn’t matter that for two years he has played as productively against top level competition as anyone. They are choosing not to believe it, which is rather humorous considering how they wanted so much to believe in Tyler Hansbrough. They wanted to believe that because he tried so hard while being outworked by Blake Griffin that he’d be good in the NBA. He never once tried harder than Taj Gibson, Sam Young, DeJuan Blair, or Jon Brockman. They simply chose to believe in something that wasn’t there. In Fredette’s case, there is something tangible as to why he is good. It is called talent.

    If I take a look at the point guards likely/possibly going to be in this draft, there aren’t many better. I think Irving used that short season to put aside any concerns about him being the best point in the draft. Grading on the curve of being 18, Brandon Knight has been tremendous. He may or may not declare, but there is a lot to like about his game. After those two, who has showed more translatable ability than Fredette. Kemba Walker was ridiculous in Maui, but he has more question marks. Walker has far more questions operating as a point guard, whether he can hit the NBA three, and how effective he will be when he isn’t the first option. He has also been a sub-40 percent shooter since the team got back from their semester break. Demetri McCamey doesn’t do one thing better than Fredette. He isn’t quicker or more athletic, but he does disappear. A guy like Maalik Wayns has a lousy shot and isn’t in any way consistent. Nolan Smith is no more athletic, less polished handling the point, and struggles far more against better competition. He is the third best point guard in this draft. That doesn’t mean he will be a star, it doesn’t mean a team should necessarily draft with him with the purpose of making him their franchise player or even starting point guard. He is, however, on the short list of guys who can contribute. He isn’t a project. He won’t be a bust. He won’t be a bum. Once the guy’s who have star potential and big men with starter potential are off the board, he is worth a pick. Like all solid prospects who don’t have star potential (in the Wall, Rose, LeBron, Griffin, etc. draft prospect way), he will have a function on whatever NBA team takes him but how big will depend on the situation.

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  • #480265
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    LAKE SHOW

    I think you’re going a tad too far. He is not a icon where he is gonna bring in ticket sales to whatever NBA team he goes to

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  • #480267
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    I never claimed him to be. He has more potential to play in the NBA than most point guards out there, and is going to have a function on the next level.

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  • #480270
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    LAKE SHOW

    Read the post before yours

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  • #480274
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    I think he has all the tools to be Nash lite…Irving has Cp3 lite potential, Selby feels like a bust for some odd reason, he’s got the talent i just don’t trust him yet, Kemba looks like a Iverson copy cat, McCamey is a little too inconsistent and Knight is as solid as them all yet he’s the one sliding in the mock drafts online, I don’t get it because he’s the only one with An Nba game and frame…he’s may sleeper pick in the draft…and I’ll bet money he’s in the ROY RACE

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  • #480277
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    Selby feels more like a shooting guard than a point.

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  • #480415
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    kanyedabest
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    ya selby is a 2 at the nxtlevel he certainly doesnt have the vision to run a nba team

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  • #480422
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    I’ve seen Selby play every game this year and he really just needs another year of college.  He actually does have good court vision, but just lacks the decision making needed to be a point guard even at the college level. His defense is actually better than I expected and he’s good in transition.  I honestly wouldn’t take him before #25 if he were to come out this year.  

    I feel like he does have "potential" but the question mark as to what role he’ll play and if he’ll succeed at the next level is very evident when you watch him play.  I don’t think he is a 2 at the next level, I just don’t think he’ll ever be a starting NBA point guard ( unless he makes a drastic progression ) this isn’t a case of Jrue Holiday playing the 2 because they have Darren Collison at the point.  He plays more like a two but at 6’2” he just wont be one.  I think he’ll be a bench scoring combo guard at the next level.  I think he could be a 17 ppg scorer in college (thats a lot in KU’s system)  if he comes back for a 2nd year and a big time player, but as of RIGHT NOW  I truly don’t think his game translates well to the next level.   

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