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- Posted on: Mon, 11/15/2010 - 10:40am #23178
dude1955ParticipantWent to the University of New Mexico vs University of Detroit game, and despite a overall sloppy game, there were some interesting prospects. U of D has a Holman guy that is long and pretty athletic. He had I think 17 and 14, but got gased due to lack of depth. Despite being winded he had a nasty putback over 3 dudes. There is also a forward about 6’8 Nick Minnerath I think that can hit the 3 and dude has rediculous bounce.
What do you guys think of all the hype that some of these top prospects get before they even play a game. I mean for instance how can you really project stardom or ability until they play against better comp. All I can remember is all the hype revolving around Felipe Lopez and he flopped. Just a thought.
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mikeyvthedonParticipantI mean, this site is NBADraft.Net, we are thinking about draft prospects all of the time. The hype kind of comes with the territory, for every Tim Duncan, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming and John Wall, there are Felipe Lopez, Lenny Cooke, Schea Cotton, Kosta Perovic and Nemanja Aleksandrov (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nemanja-Aleksandrov-The-sure-fire-1-pick-42/). When you see someone with size or amazing athletic attributes, or a prospect that manages to do really well against their peers at a young age or improves a great deal over time, these things tend to get noticed. If the draft were based on what you have shown up to a certain point, than chances are it would be a selection of All-Americans and proven players, but potential plays into it. The reason many of these guys tend to get hyped are because of their performance amongst peers, if you are a High School McDonald’s All-American, chances are that you killed it amongst high school competition. If you are a top Euro prospect, more often than not they have reached a high level amongst competition amongst their peers and are in the midst of playing with some grown men.
The mental aspect is definitely slept on, but you never know how certain players will react in certain situations. Work ethic is something very difficult to measure, most of these guys do work hard, but you never know how long it will last, if they will maintain the focus. Greg Oden is supposedly a total gym rat, all I heard about was him working and working, his love of basketball, but his injury has made numerous people question it. But, it is good to keep a look out, there are so many prospects out there who get overlooked. Eli Holman has been on the radar for a while, but I looked up Nick Minnerath and saw he was a JUCO transfer who has played well. The key for a player of course is to always be hungry and not give into the hype. Once that slept on player starts getting the spot light, things can kind of fade away, even for the ballyhooed younger prospect. LaQuinton Ross made the Elite 24 game his freshman year, and now he has slipped to beyond even the top 50 in his HS class. People feel like he has not remained hungry. that he does not play with the passion that equals his talent. He can either take that criticism and use it as motivation, or he will be considered one of those whose hype got to their head.
0- Posted on: Mon, 11/15/2010 - 2:22pm #435347
dude1955ParticipantO I fully understand…and get the speculative aspect and fun of prejection, but I look at production as well. Lets take Harangody from Notre Dame, everyone was he cant do this or cant do that and im like hey he put 20 and 10 or close to in the big east. That has to account for something. And most of these HS Seniors are 20 something or 20 plus as college freshman. Its easy to ball against guys younger than you in HS. Im from so cal and familiar with Shea Cotton, and yes he was talented but he was a old senior playing against guys younger.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/15/2010 - 2:22pm #435354
dude1955ParticipantO I fully understand…and get the speculative aspect and fun of prejection, but I look at production as well. Lets take Harangody from Notre Dame, everyone was he cant do this or cant do that and im like hey he put 20 and 10 or close to in the big east. That has to account for something. And most of these HS Seniors are 20 something or 20 plus as college freshman. Its easy to ball against guys younger than you in HS. Im from so cal and familiar with Shea Cotton, and yes he was talented but he was a old senior playing against guys younger.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/15/2010 - 1:24pm #435304

mikeyvthedonParticipantI mean, this site is NBADraft.Net, we are thinking about draft prospects all of the time. The hype kind of comes with the territory, for every Tim Duncan, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming and John Wall, there are Felipe Lopez, Lenny Cooke, Schea Cotton, Kosta Perovic and Nemanja Aleksandrov (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nemanja-Aleksandrov-The-sure-fire-1-pick-42/). When you see someone with size or amazing athletic attributes, or a prospect that manages to do really well against their peers at a young age or improves a great deal over time, these things tend to get noticed. If the draft were based on what you have shown up to a certain point, than chances are it would be a selection of All-Americans and proven players, but potential plays into it. The reason many of these guys tend to get hyped are because of their performance amongst peers, if you are a High School McDonald’s All-American, chances are that you killed it amongst high school competition. If you are a top Euro prospect, more often than not they have reached a high level amongst competition amongst their peers and are in the midst of playing with some grown men.
The mental aspect is definitely slept on, but you never know how certain players will react in certain situations. Work ethic is something very difficult to measure, most of these guys do work hard, but you never know how long it will last, if they will maintain the focus. Greg Oden is supposedly a total gym rat, all I heard about was him working and working, his love of basketball, but his injury has made numerous people question it. But, it is good to keep a look out, there are so many prospects out there who get overlooked. Eli Holman has been on the radar for a while, but I looked up Nick Minnerath and saw he was a JUCO transfer who has played well. The key for a player of course is to always be hungry and not give into the hype. Once that slept on player starts getting the spot light, things can kind of fade away, even for the ballyhooed younger prospect. LaQuinton Ross made the Elite 24 game his freshman year, and now he has slipped to beyond even the top 50 in his HS class. People feel like he has not remained hungry. that he does not play with the passion that equals his talent. He can either take that criticism and use it as motivation, or he will be considered one of those whose hype got to their head.
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