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  • #23100
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    Is it a good idea  for a player who is excelling on the college level, to leave early because they have shown that they are ready for the next level, to be drafted just to ride the pine although they get drafted in the 1st round?

    I sit back and think about a player like Avery Bradley, who has tons and tons of potential, but should have stayed in school to improve his PG play for the next level although he left because he was a "LOCK" for the 1st round. My whole perception on Bradley, is if he would have stayed in school for a couple more years to improve himself as a PG he would not be sitting on a loaded Boston bench. Whereas if he was to stay and show scouts he improved himself, as a player his stock would have risen to where, he would have been a lottery pick and possibly got minutes like most lottery picks.

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  • #433307
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    To me its a combination of things. If a guy is a lock to go first round, then thats a big deal. You get 2 years minimum to get paid in the nba and show your skills and improve. Plenty of guys have returned to college only to find their stock drop becasue they didnt get to that next level as a player and their weaknesses were exposed in college and they ended up never making that gauranteed money.

    The other thing is the kid has to be honest with himself about how good he is and how confident he is. If he truly feels like he is capable of playing at the nba level and and that he can make it in the league, then come out. BUt some guys probably know they are not ready and then their confidence just gets completely crushed while riding the pine and they’re never able to develop.

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  • #433310
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    To me its a combination of things. If a guy is a lock to go first round, then thats a big deal. You get 2 years minimum to get paid in the nba and show your skills and improve. Plenty of guys have returned to college only to find their stock drop becasue they didnt get to that next level as a player and their weaknesses were exposed in college and they ended up never making that gauranteed money.

    The other thing is the kid has to be honest with himself about how good he is and how confident he is. If he truly feels like he is capable of playing at the nba level and and that he can make it in the league, then come out. BUt some guys probably know they are not ready and then their confidence just gets completely crushed while riding the pine and they’re never able to develop.

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  • #433316
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    Nope dont agree. avery would have continued to play as a scoring guard and what better way top become a better point guard then to learn in the nba against rondo in practice?? thats much better then going against balby in practice. You have much better teachers and more time to learn in the nba with personal trainers then you do in college. On top of that you never know if youre gonna end up like steele from alabama with so much talent but injuries take it away

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  • #433317
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    stanford hoops

    Nope dont agree. avery would have continued to play as a scoring guard and what better way top become a better point guard then to learn in the nba against rondo in practice?? thats much better then going against balby in practice. You have much better teachers and more time to learn in the nba with personal trainers then you do in college. On top of that you never know if youre gonna end up like steele from alabama with so much talent but injuries take it away

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  • #433318
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    Honestly in Bradley’s case I think by sitting on Boston’s bench, it can HELP him and HURT him at the same time. What I mean by that is……..He is getting the best learning from a top 5 PG in Rondo, and at the same time he will not get off the bench because he is glued to it.

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  • #433319
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    Honestly in Bradley’s case I think by sitting on Boston’s bench, it can HELP him and HURT him at the same time. What I mean by that is……..He is getting the best learning from a top 5 PG in Rondo, and at the same time he will not get off the bench because he is glued to it.

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  • #433321
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    Honestly in Bradley’s case I think by sitting on Boston’s bench, it can HELP him and HURT him at the same time. What I mean by that is……..He is getting the best learning from a top 5 PG in Rondo, and at the same time he will not get off the bench because he is glued to it.

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  • #433322
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    But he will get chances to use what he has learned while playing big(and no doubt observed by an assistant) minutes for the Maine Red Claws (coached by  Austin Ainge) where he will probably be sent a few times throughout the season.

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  • #433325
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    But he will get chances to use what he has learned while playing big(and no doubt observed by an assistant) minutes for the Maine Red Claws (coached by  Austin Ainge) where he will probably be sent a few times throughout the season.

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  • #433332
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    But for Bradley, even if he has stayed in college another year, it would not have helped him as he was playing a bad system in Texas.  Plus with Corey Joseph coming in a recruit, there is no way Bradley could have stayed.  That is a big factor as well, the recruiting class coming in.  And if Bradley had been drafted by a team that needs a PG (Toronto, Charlotte) he would have gotten more playing time, possibly even starting, and would be able to be show casing his skills.  It just sucks that he got drafted by the best team in the league, where the best player plays the same position as you.

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  • #433335
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    But for Bradley, even if he has stayed in college another year, it would not have helped him as he was playing a bad system in Texas.  Plus with Corey Joseph coming in a recruit, there is no way Bradley could have stayed.  That is a big factor as well, the recruiting class coming in.  And if Bradley had been drafted by a team that needs a PG (Toronto, Charlotte) he would have gotten more playing time, possibly even starting, and would be able to be show casing his skills.  It just sucks that he got drafted by the best team in the league, where the best player plays the same position as you.

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  • #433352
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    boston resigned nate rob then signed delonte after drafting bradley still doesnt make any sense if your gonna draft a guy in the first round why sign players at the same position

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  • #433355
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    boston resigned nate rob then signed delonte after drafting bradley still doesnt make any sense if your gonna draft a guy in the first round why sign players at the same position

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  • #433356
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    But he really wasn’t ready to produce right away imo anyway..so I think getting coached by the celtics coach and rondo will help him more learning the nba game(not even learning how to play on a winning team) than staying at texas
    Look what they did to nates game as a pg..he still is a scorer but he learned how to play the pg spot opposed to when he was in new york

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  • #433359
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    But he really wasn’t ready to produce right away imo anyway..so I think getting coached by the celtics coach and rondo will help him more learning the nba game(not even learning how to play on a winning team) than staying at texas
    Look what they did to nates game as a pg..he still is a scorer but he learned how to play the pg spot opposed to when he was in new york

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