I’m not trying to hate, but

yeah id say you are hating. rondo belongs in the talk. other than shooting can you really pick out a weakness for this guy?

he plays with some all time greats but they arenty in there prime which some forget to remeber. that excuse has been beatin like a dead horse by haters who dont wanna give this guy credit, hes a very good defender and hes a great passer no matter who hes playing with. he has great vision and the hall of fame thing is just a excuse. kg isnt the old kg ray allen isnt the old ray allen. they are still good but they arent allstars anymore. paul p is a all star.

yeah id say you are hating. rondo belongs in the talk. other than shooting can you really pick out a weakness for this guy?

he plays with some all time greats but they arenty in there prime which some forget to remeber. that excuse has been beatin like a dead horse by haters who dont wanna give this guy credit, hes a very good defender and hes a great passer no matter who hes playing with. he has great vision and the hall of fame thing is just a excuse. kg isnt the old kg ray allen isnt the old ray allen. they are still good but they arent allstars anymore. paul p is a all star.

Disagree. He’s a superstar and he’s to me at this point a top 13 player in the NBA. For what he doesn’t do well (shoot), he can do everything else very well PLUS he’s at a nice contract.

For NFL, Romo is overrated by Peyton Manning is not? Come on now. First off, he cost his team the superbowl vs New Orleans. Second, his playoff record? Not that great. I don’t know the exact record but he lost to NYJ, SD, NE, PIT tons of times. Let’s be real.

Disagree. He’s a superstar and he’s to me at this point a top 13 player in the NBA. For what he doesn’t do well (shoot), he can do everything else very well PLUS he’s at a nice contract.

For NFL, Romo is overrated by Peyton Manning is not? Come on now. First off, he cost his team the superbowl vs New Orleans. Second, his playoff record? Not that great. I don’t know the exact record but he lost to NYJ, SD, NE, PIT tons of times. Let’s be real.

I think as of right now, CP3 and DWill are on a separate level from Derrick Rose and Rondo. I think DRose and Rondo are all the 2nd level of point guards. Honestly though. i’m kinda sad DRose turned out to be the way he is… I wanted him to become a 20 and 10 guy but it seems more and more likely that hes more like a 25 and 7 guy and not a pure point guard… Hey it might change when Boozer comes back but as of now… he seems more and more like a scorer. And Rondo has sick passes but the reason why he isn’t with Paul and Williams is that he can’t carry the scoring load for his team when they need him too. Maybe John Wall will be the next 20 and 10 guy hes already done it a few times lol 

I think as of right now, CP3 and DWill are on a separate level from Derrick Rose and Rondo. I think DRose and Rondo are all the 2nd level of point guards. Honestly though. i’m kinda sad DRose turned out to be the way he is… I wanted him to become a 20 and 10 guy but it seems more and more likely that hes more like a 25 and 7 guy and not a pure point guard… Hey it might change when Boozer comes back but as of now… he seems more and more like a scorer. And Rondo has sick passes but the reason why he isn’t with Paul and Williams is that he can’t carry the scoring load for his team when they need him too. Maybe John Wall will be the next 20 and 10 guy hes already done it a few times lol 

There are some nights when Rondo does play like he’s the best point guard in the league..

He’s not a franchise type of player..He does better when he’s surrounded by other good players..For everyone that says he’s better than CP3 ,Rose or D-Will..All 3 of those guys were considered to be their team’s point guard for the next decade.You couldnt say that after Rondo’s 1st year..People were saying the Celtics needed another point guard to be a championship team..But he proved them wrong ,he’s worked to improve his game ..Now he might be the Celtics best player….

There are some nights when Rondo does play like he’s the best point guard in the league..

He’s not a franchise type of player..He does better when he’s surrounded by other good players..For everyone that says he’s better than CP3 ,Rose or D-Will..All 3 of those guys were considered to be their team’s point guard for the next decade.You couldnt say that after Rondo’s 1st year..People were saying the Celtics needed another point guard to be a championship team..But he proved them wrong ,he’s worked to improve his game ..Now he might be the Celtics best player….

Rose is averaging 25 and 10 right now. I don’t see why he can’t be a 20 and 10 player.

Rose is averaging 25 and 10 right now. I don’t see why he can’t be a 20 and 10 player.

I think hes close to 10 right now because of the couple of the recent games where he got like 14 and 15… i think outside of that hes been close to 6,7 ish most of the season. Of course he might become a 20 and 10 guy but as of now I think those 2 games are more outliers

I think hes close to 10 right now because of the couple of the recent games where he got like 14 and 15… i think outside of that hes been close to 6,7 ish most of the season. Of course he might become a 20 and 10 guy but as of now I think those 2 games are more outliers

Rondo is the Best Pg in The NBA…Key Word Point Guard…Not guy that starts at Pg and takes more and more shots as the year goes on…Paul and DWill are scoring Pg’s and that’s great, they get the 10 assist games frenquent enough to earn that respect as Best Pg’s in The NBA, but as far as Pure play making, pass first Pg’s Rondo is in a class of his own…It’s not even close…Rondo is the best passer in the last 20 years…Not since Stockon and Magic has a PG been able to effect the game and make teammates better…Rondo is under rated…

And The Manning losing in Playoff’s statements…He lost in a SuperBowl and a few AFC Championship games to eventually Super bowl winners …Stop that …Romo is over rated and hated in Dallas…Check your facts…My friend is a die hard Cowboy fan and he hates Romo with a passion…Never said once he’s a top 3 QB…

Rondo is the Best Pg in The NBA…Key Word Point Guard…Not guy that starts at Pg and takes more and more shots as the year goes on…Paul and DWill are scoring Pg’s and that’s great, they get the 10 assist games frenquent enough to earn that respect as Best Pg’s in The NBA, but as far as Pure play making, pass first Pg’s Rondo is in a class of his own…It’s not even close…Rondo is the best passer in the last 20 years…Not since Stockon and Magic has a PG been able to effect the game and make teammates better…Rondo is under rated…

And The Manning losing in Playoff’s statements…He lost in a SuperBowl and a few AFC Championship games to eventually Super bowl winners …Stop that …Romo is over rated and hated in Dallas…Check your facts…My friend is a die hard Cowboy fan and he hates Romo with a passion…Never said once he’s a top 3 QB…

Point guards aren’t suppose to score, their job is to get their teammates involved and run the offense. To me Rondo is doing his job at a pretty high level.

Point guards aren’t suppose to score, their job is to get their teammates involved and run the offense. To me Rondo is doing his job at a pretty high level.

Agree about Peyton. He has had his team built around his talents his whole career. Brady kicks his ass!:)

But there is no way Rondo is top 20. Period. Sorry:) He is a great player, one of the best defenders, but his distribution game is just above avg, and a product of a great team concept in beantown. Put any other good PG there and he will be great.

Agree about Peyton. He has had his team built around his talents his whole career. Brady kicks his ass!:)

But there is no way Rondo is top 20. Period. Sorry:) He is a great player, one of the best defenders, but his distribution game is just above avg, and a product of a great team concept in beantown. Put any other good PG there and he will be great.

 I don’t think just because CP3 and DWill score automatically makes them scoring pgs. I personally think that they are pure point guards who can also score and i’m sure if they were on celtics, they would put up more assists and less points

 I don’t think just because CP3 and DWill score automatically makes them scoring pgs. I personally think that they are pure point guards who can also score and i’m sure if they were on celtics, they would put up more assists and less points

You couldnt pick a better PG for this celtics team though. He is the definition of a true pass first pg. He might not be as good an overall player as cp3 and williams but if Im building a team right now Im taking him at point and getting scorers at the other middle three positions and thats what the celtics and the lakers have done the last three years. 

Name the last first scoring option at point to win a ring… Maybe you could argue Billups but they had a #1a,b,c thing going there. It just doesnt happen. Yeah his jumper is hideous but he does have a ring and fits the mold of most championship pgs: defense and be a playmaker first. Im by no means a Celtics fan…I really hate kg and pierce but i love what rondo brings.

You couldnt pick a better PG for this celtics team though. He is the definition of a true pass first pg. He might not be as good an overall player as cp3 and williams but if Im building a team right now Im taking him at point and getting scorers at the other middle three positions and thats what the celtics and the lakers have done the last three years. 

Name the last first scoring option at point to win a ring… Maybe you could argue Billups but they had a #1a,b,c thing going there. It just doesnt happen. Yeah his jumper is hideous but he does have a ring and fits the mold of most championship pgs: defense and be a playmaker first. Im by no means a Celtics fan…I really hate kg and pierce but i love what rondo brings.

Name the last first scoring option at point to win a ring… Maybe you could argue Billups but they had a #1a,b,c thing going there. It just doesnt happen. Yeah his jumper is hideous but he does have a ring and fits the mold of most championship pgs: defense and be a playmaker first. Im by no means a Celtics fan…I really hate kg and pierce but i love what rondo brings.

I been saying that for years.

Also, Scarecrow: Peyton Manning has lost in the first round in the playoffs a couple times. He’s not the GOAT to me.

Name the last first scoring option at point to win a ring… Maybe you could argue Billups but they had a #1a,b,c thing going there. It just doesnt happen. Yeah his jumper is hideous but he does have a ring and fits the mold of most championship pgs: defense and be a playmaker first. Im by no means a Celtics fan…I really hate kg and pierce but i love what rondo brings.

I been saying that for years.

Also, Scarecrow: Peyton Manning has lost in the first round in the playoffs a couple times. He’s not the GOAT to me.

 and gotta love rondo’s flashiness from his signature ball fake and all the passes lol. I too hate KG and pierce… ones a thug wannabe and the other is a fake injury pussy but they are both good lolol

 and gotta love rondo’s flashiness from his signature ball fake and all the passes lol. I too hate KG and pierce… ones a thug wannabe and the other is a fake injury pussy but they are both good lolol

^^look at this dude hes got one nostril, wtf?

^^look at this dude hes got one nostril, wtf?

Mr.Knick, i’m guessing being a knicks fan u don’t know about defense and ball control, but thats what wins in the playoffs. colts teams have always been too undersized on D and without much of a running game since Edgerrin James left. And r we really comparing Peyton and Romo in the playoffs? You gotta get there. Manning’s team gets regardless of who is playing receiver or any other position on the field.

Can everyone get off my balls for being a Knicks fan? Really….it’s old.

I’m not comparing Romo and Manning. I know about defense and ball control. Manning’s has had dozen of weapons around him and he still loses. The Colts have tons of defensive players on that roster who are good. The issue is they were seen as favorites dozens of times. Even with Edge, they weren’t winning titles. The Pats didn’t have a good run game yet dominated the clock when they played Indy. If the Colts had the better RB, why couldn’t they dominate the clock? Alright, you been a undersized (Yet faster) defense. Why aren’t you blitzing then? All I can say is go watch those old games, Manning did well against teams who he knew he could beat ( Balitmore and Denver) and could never win a big game on the road in the playoffs.

Mr.Knick, i’m guessing being a knicks fan u don’t know about defense and ball control, but thats what wins in the playoffs. colts teams have always been too undersized on D and without much of a running game since Edgerrin James left. And r we really comparing Peyton and Romo in the playoffs? You gotta get there. Manning’s team gets regardless of who is playing receiver or any other position on the field.

Can everyone get off my balls for being a Knicks fan? Really….it’s old.

I’m not comparing Romo and Manning. I know about defense and ball control. Manning’s has had dozen of weapons around him and he still loses. The Colts have tons of defensive players on that roster who are good. The issue is they were seen as favorites dozens of times. Even with Edge, they weren’t winning titles. The Pats didn’t have a good run game yet dominated the clock when they played Indy. If the Colts had the better RB, why couldn’t they dominate the clock? Alright, you been a undersized (Yet faster) defense. Why aren’t you blitzing then? All I can say is go watch those old games, Manning did well against teams who he knew he could beat ( Balitmore and Denver) and could never win a big game on the road in the playoffs.

But would Paul and Williams get 10 assist without the scorers they’ve had on their teams…

Paul had Peja for 3’s, West for mid range jumpers and Chandler for easy alley oops…he still ahs West and Shooters to get those easy Assists…

Deron has Jeferson,Millsap and shooters…He also had an All Star Pf in Boozer and 3 point shooting Center in Okur…They’ve both had good teammates to kick it out too…

You put any good player on a bad team and they’ll lose something to their game that makes them special…

Mr Knick if Peyton isn’t the GOAT than who is…please don’t say Montana( you’ve never seen him play)

Don’t say Steve Young or Tom Brady because they’d tell you how lucky they were to land in San Fran (Jerry Rice,Ricky Waters and TO made it easy for Young, and NE’s offense makes Brady look great…)

I know for a fact that Peyton will go down as the Greatest QB ever…Hater’s can hate all they want…I’m drinking the Gatorade fellas

But would Paul and Williams get 10 assist without the scorers they’ve had on their teams…

Paul had Peja for 3’s, West for mid range jumpers and Chandler for easy alley oops…he still ahs West and Shooters to get those easy Assists…

Deron has Jeferson,Millsap and shooters…He also had an All Star Pf in Boozer and 3 point shooting Center in Okur…They’ve both had good teammates to kick it out too…

You put any good player on a bad team and they’ll lose something to their game that makes them special…

Mr Knick if Peyton isn’t the GOAT than who is…please don’t say Montana( you’ve never seen him play)

Don’t say Steve Young or Tom Brady because they’d tell you how lucky they were to land in San Fran (Jerry Rice,Ricky Waters and TO made it easy for Young, and NE’s offense makes Brady look great…)

I know for a fact that Peyton will go down as the Greatest QB ever…Hater’s can hate all they want…I’m drinking the Gatorade fellas

Based on the numbers and what I seen, Joe Montana is the goat.

Brady fell into New England and hasn’t had a superstar WR in his career other then Moss. His running backs were like Kevin Faulk and Corey DIllion for a season.

Steve Young was still a accurate passer. Young had Rice and Waters and TO for a couple seasons, but that was really it.

Manning had…oh let’s see. Edge James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley, Dominic Rhodes, Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Dallas Clark among others. Let’s not act like he had NOTHING.

Based on the numbers and what I seen, Joe Montana is the goat.

Brady fell into New England and hasn’t had a superstar WR in his career other then Moss. His running backs were like Kevin Faulk and Corey DIllion for a season.

Steve Young was still a accurate passer. Young had Rice and Waters and TO for a couple seasons, but that was really it.

Manning had…oh let’s see. Edge James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley, Dominic Rhodes, Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Dallas Clark among others. Let’s not act like he had NOTHING.

 you can’t say Paul and Williams benefit more from their teammates than Rondo… That my friend is not an argument. No doubt Rondo has it easier with his 3 potential hall of famers. I love Rondo and i too think hes one of the most exciting playmakers in the NBA but hes still got it easy

 you can’t say Paul and Williams benefit more from their teammates than Rondo… That my friend is not an argument. No doubt Rondo has it easier with his 3 potential hall of famers. I love Rondo and i too think hes one of the most exciting playmakers in the NBA but hes still got it easy

or break down entire defenses and find an open man with only a micro second to make the play, saying he has it easy is a disrespectful statement to make about a top 3 PG…He’d be # 1 if we were’nt force fed the Paul/Williams debate every day for 3 years…Rose and Westbrook are now taking away the spotlight from the BEST PASSER in the NBA …Rondo is in a class of his own…

or break down entire defenses and find an open man with only a micro second to make the play, saying he has it easy is a disrespectful statement to make about a top 3 PG…He’d be # 1 if we were’nt force fed the Paul/Williams debate every day for 3 years…Rose and Westbrook are now taking away the spotlight from the BEST PASSER in the NBA …Rondo is in a class of his own…

Slow down Scarecrow, Rondo is better then D-Will but not CP3.

Slow down Scarecrow, Rondo is better then D-Will but not CP3.

Rondo is not better than Deron Williams. 

Rondo is not better than Deron Williams. 

“Them rings and things you sing about bring ’em out”

Rondo is the only pg in the convo that has any real jewelry! And oh yeah he leads the NBA in assists.

“Them rings and things you sing about bring ’em out”

Rondo is the only pg in the convo that has any real jewelry! And oh yeah he leads the NBA in assists.

dude… i’m not saying its easy to be an NBA pg… wth? he just has it easier than Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Of course I won’t be able to do what Rondo is doing!! lol

dude… i’m not saying its easy to be an NBA pg… wth? he just has it easier than Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Of course I won’t be able to do what Rondo is doing!! lol

Oh yeah and the “reason” Rondo got cut is the fact that they like Steph Curry’s complexion.

Oh yeah and the “reason” Rondo got cut is the fact that they like Steph Curry’s complexion.

 Rondo is not better than D will or CP3 and Tom Brady was better than Peyton manning

 Rondo is not better than D will or CP3 and Tom Brady was better than Peyton manning

 No he is not better than D Will….

IMO

1. Paul

2. D Will

3. Still Nash

Then Rose and Rondo

The dude is def a top 5 PG…. J Kidd could’t shoot for years and was considered the best by some for a min.

Yes he plays with hall of famers, old hall of Famers. Since when is it a knock on a dude to play on a good team.

Yeah he gets dimes because he has shooters to pass to. It takes skills to get those passes there.

 No he is not better than D Will….

IMO

1. Paul

2. D Will

3. Still Nash

Then Rose and Rondo

The dude is def a top 5 PG…. J Kidd could’t shoot for years and was considered the best by some for a min.

Yes he plays with hall of famers, old hall of Famers. Since when is it a knock on a dude to play on a good team.

Yeah he gets dimes because he has shooters to pass to. It takes skills to get those passes there.

 For everyone who says Rondo feeds off the Big Three, did you even watch the Bulls series a couple years ago? The guy was a complete animal out there and controlled every aspect of the game that a single player could. He even put up 20+ points four times that series. All that was done with Big Baby starting instead of KG too. 

 For everyone who says Rondo feeds off the Big Three, did you even watch the Bulls series a couple years ago? The guy was a complete animal out there and controlled every aspect of the game that a single player could. He even put up 20+ points four times that series. All that was done with Big Baby starting instead of KG too. 

That’s who I see Rondo following…A walking triple double that leads the League in Assist while being the only top 5 caliber Pg on a real Championship contender…And he’s got a ring and was the Finals MVP last year if the Celtics win Game 7…what are you guys missing…Stats don’t mean shyt…He’s a leader and will be the best passer of this ERA…If he isn’t already…Guys that can score at the PG spot are great, but he’s proved he can be an MVP with little to no offensive fire power…

That’s who I see Rondo following…A walking triple double that leads the League in Assist while being the only top 5 caliber Pg on a real Championship contender…And he’s got a ring and was the Finals MVP last year if the Celtics win Game 7…what are you guys missing…Stats don’t mean shyt…He’s a leader and will be the best passer of this ERA…If he isn’t already…Guys that can score at the PG spot are great, but he’s proved he can be an MVP with little to no offensive fire power…

ya, if you want to pick on a scoring pg pick on rose. he should be getting more than his career avg of like 6 per game. but rondo is not a better point guard then williams or paul. he also isnt better than nash offensively. also, you cant argue cp3 throwing lobs to people and having guys make shots, i mean are you serious? cp3 made chandler better, he makes everyone better. same for nash and same for d will. rondo is a similar passer to all of them but is passing to the greatest 3 point shooter of all time, a top 5 or 10 pf of all time, and the 3rd leading scorer in celtics history(not a horrible history either) in pierce. but im not even gonna make that an excuse anymore for rondo. i used to use that against him. rondo is a hell of a point guard but not better than williams or cp3. and even though both score alot, they both average more assists than rondo is recent years.

ya, if you want to pick on a scoring pg pick on rose. he should be getting more than his career avg of like 6 per game. but rondo is not a better point guard then williams or paul. he also isnt better than nash offensively. also, you cant argue cp3 throwing lobs to people and having guys make shots, i mean are you serious? cp3 made chandler better, he makes everyone better. same for nash and same for d will. rondo is a similar passer to all of them but is passing to the greatest 3 point shooter of all time, a top 5 or 10 pf of all time, and the 3rd leading scorer in celtics history(not a horrible history either) in pierce. but im not even gonna make that an excuse anymore for rondo. i used to use that against him. rondo is a hell of a point guard but not better than williams or cp3. and even though both score alot, they both average more assists than rondo is recent years.

CP3, D-Will, Rose, Rondo, Nash etc are all amazing players and it IS NOT worth arguing over who is better cuz there is no defined answer.  I would say CP3 but if someone else argued for another one of those dudes I wouldn’t have a problem with that in any way. Complete toss-up 

CP3, D-Will, Rose, Rondo, Nash etc are all amazing players and it IS NOT worth arguing over who is better cuz there is no defined answer.  I would say CP3 but if someone else argued for another one of those dudes I wouldn’t have a problem with that in any way. Complete toss-up 

Paul and Deron Williams are better scorers and bigger names…But Rondo is flat out the Best PG…Leading the league in assist counts as a big point to tip the scales in Rondo’s favor…Top 5 Pg’s are

1.Rondo

2.Paul

3.D Will

4.Rose

5.Wall

6.Westbrook

7.Nash

8.Kidd

9.Billups

10.Steph Curry soon to be Jrue Holiday…

And Rose and Wall will leap frog over Paul and Williams very soon…Wall is a rookie and even I can admit I never saw this coming this early but he’s been flat out amazing…He’s having a bigger Impact than Westbrook as a PG…Stat’s don’t mean shyt…

Nash,Kidd and Billups are all aging Vets and still in my top 10 Pg’s list but C’mon, there is a huge gap from top to bottom…Curry and Holiday will join this top 10 debate very soon…

Paul and Deron Williams are better scorers and bigger names…But Rondo is flat out the Best PG…Leading the league in assist counts as a big point to tip the scales in Rondo’s favor…Top 5 Pg’s are

1.Rondo

2.Paul

3.D Will

4.Rose

5.Wall

6.Westbrook

7.Nash

8.Kidd

9.Billups

10.Steph Curry soon to be Jrue Holiday…

And Rose and Wall will leap frog over Paul and Williams very soon…Wall is a rookie and even I can admit I never saw this coming this early but he’s been flat out amazing…He’s having a bigger Impact than Westbrook as a PG…Stat’s don’t mean shyt…

Nash,Kidd and Billups are all aging Vets and still in my top 10 Pg’s list but C’mon, there is a huge gap from top to bottom…Curry and Holiday will join this top 10 debate very soon…

Rondo is a great pg, and does what his team needs and more. Kenny Smith had a segment on inside the NBA about how he views the pg’s in the league. He isn’t asked to do what CP3 and DWill have to do just to compete every night. He is the facilitator, not the offense. He could score more if needed (14-17 maybe), and in a few years he will have to, not now. And hindsight being 20/20, i would put rondo on that team instead of curry and would have gotten some much needed production by running the offense like C.Bill did ,and setting the defense. Those things are the main jobs of a pg, the stats aren’t that important.

Rondo is a great pg, and does what his team needs and more. Kenny Smith had a segment on inside the NBA about how he views the pg’s in the league. He isn’t asked to do what CP3 and DWill have to do just to compete every night. He is the facilitator, not the offense. He could score more if needed (14-17 maybe), and in a few years he will have to, not now. And hindsight being 20/20, i would put rondo on that team instead of curry and would have gotten some much needed production by running the offense like C.Bill did ,and setting the defense. Those things are the main jobs of a pg, the stats aren’t that important.

rondo is not a better point guard than williams, paul, or nash. it has nothing to do with names, teams, or numbers. they just make their teams alot better. rondo is close and is a true point guard but he isnt better. you put either player on boston(nash, cp3, williams) they get the same assists but more points. i mean nash is passing to robin lopez, hakim warrick, and josh childress. williams is passing to al jefferson, paul millsap, and raja bell. cp3 is passing to emeka okafor, david west, and marco bellinelli. rondo is passing to shaq, kg, pierce, and ray allen. i mean it isnt rocket science. rondo is passing to 4 future hall of famers. not taking away from his skill but you have to guess passing to 4 future hall of famer is worth 2 or 3 more assist per game, especially compared to who the other guys are passing to.

rondo is not a better point guard than williams, paul, or nash. it has nothing to do with names, teams, or numbers. they just make their teams alot better. rondo is close and is a true point guard but he isnt better. you put either player on boston(nash, cp3, williams) they get the same assists but more points. i mean nash is passing to robin lopez, hakim warrick, and josh childress. williams is passing to al jefferson, paul millsap, and raja bell. cp3 is passing to emeka okafor, david west, and marco bellinelli. rondo is passing to shaq, kg, pierce, and ray allen. i mean it isnt rocket science. rondo is passing to 4 future hall of famers. not taking away from his skill but you have to guess passing to 4 future hall of famer is worth 2 or 3 more assist per game, especially compared to who the other guys are passing to.

I’m sorry, I didn’t even bother to read the rest of this after I read Mr. Knick say Peyton Manning is overrated.

Peyton = best QB of all time. "C’mon, man!"

I’m sorry, I didn’t even bother to read the rest of this after I read Mr. Knick say Peyton Manning is overrated.

Peyton = best QB of all time. "C’mon, man!"

I don’t think that’s fair.

Steve Nash pre-Suns had 3 seasons in a row where he averaged 7 assists a game. He had Dirk and Finley with him (both 20 point scorers) then goes to the Suns and has Shawn Marion, Amar’e Stoudemire and Joe Johnson/Boris Diaw combo and goes up to 11 and he’s better?

My top 5 ( I wrote a article about this, comes out tomorrow)

Paul, Rondo, Williams, Rose, Westbrook.

Steve Nash is 6th. He’s a terrible defensive player and I rather have the other 3 for a season over Nash for a season. He’s pretty much Rondo without defense.

I don’t think that’s fair.

Steve Nash pre-Suns had 3 seasons in a row where he averaged 7 assists a game. He had Dirk and Finley with him (both 20 point scorers) then goes to the Suns and has Shawn Marion, Amar’e Stoudemire and Joe Johnson/Boris Diaw combo and goes up to 11 and he’s better?

My top 5 ( I wrote a article about this, comes out tomorrow)

Paul, Rondo, Williams, Rose, Westbrook.

Steve Nash is 6th. He’s a terrible defensive player and I rather have the other 3 for a season over Nash for a season. He’s pretty much Rondo without defense.

 I’ll say it again, Rondo is not better than Deron Williams. I feel pretty confident that the Celtics would be better if they had Williams instead of Rondo and I’m equally as confident that the Jazz would be worse if they had Rondo instead. 

Also it is stupid to base rankings off of 6 or 7 games. A player can play the best 6 games of his life like Rondo, and now he is the best player at his position? Williams is averaging 20 and 9 right now, and I’d be willing to bet that his assists get back up into the 10-11 range. 

 I’ll say it again, Rondo is not better than Deron Williams. I feel pretty confident that the Celtics would be better if they had Williams instead of Rondo and I’m equally as confident that the Jazz would be worse if they had Rondo instead. 

Also it is stupid to base rankings off of 6 or 7 games. A player can play the best 6 games of his life like Rondo, and now he is the best player at his position? Williams is averaging 20 and 9 right now, and I’d be willing to bet that his assists get back up into the 10-11 range. 

I’ve been saying Rondo was the best PG in the East for about a year now.

Rondo is a better passer and defender then Williams. All Williams has is scoring over Rondo IMO.

I’ve been saying Rondo was the best PG in the East for about a year now.

Rondo is a better passer and defender then Williams. All Williams has is scoring over Rondo IMO.

Rondo is a great passer but there are other aspects of the game that he lacks in. For one, he can’t carry a team offensively when asked to unlike CP3 and DWill and two he can’t shoot. I don’t think the his lack of shooting hurts him thattt much but as the last finals showed, it can be a hindrance to Boston. If Dwill and CP3 were on Boston, the Lakers don’t completely disregard the point guard and Celtics win. I think Rondo is an amazing point guard but as of now, hes on the 2nd level of point guards along with lots of other good players

Rondo is a great passer but there are other aspects of the game that he lacks in. For one, he can’t carry a team offensively when asked to unlike CP3 and DWill and two he can’t shoot. I don’t think the his lack of shooting hurts him thattt much but as the last finals showed, it can be a hindrance to Boston. If Dwill and CP3 were on Boston, the Lakers don’t completely disregard the point guard and Celtics win. I think Rondo is an amazing point guard but as of now, hes on the 2nd level of point guards along with lots of other good players

im not taking defense into account. i know its part of the game but im not counting it because most people are basing this off of assist numbers. no doubt rondo is a better defender than nash, rose, williams but since we are talking passing, rondo isnt the best. top 5 yes but not number 1.

every point guard is asked to do something. sure rondo could score 15ppg, and nash could get 25 but he isnt asked to do that. cp3 will sometimes have 30 points and only like 7 assists, not because he is a scoring point guard but because thats what he HAD to be to try and win that game. i wish rondo didnt have allen, pierce and kg so we could make this argument better. i mean he would still get 10apg but would be more of a jkidd(now) kind of player. he might even score more but that percentage would go down. or lets just say rondo wouldnt have the hornets undefeated like paul does.

im not taking defense into account. i know its part of the game but im not counting it because most people are basing this off of assist numbers. no doubt rondo is a better defender than nash, rose, williams but since we are talking passing, rondo isnt the best. top 5 yes but not number 1.

every point guard is asked to do something. sure rondo could score 15ppg, and nash could get 25 but he isnt asked to do that. cp3 will sometimes have 30 points and only like 7 assists, not because he is a scoring point guard but because thats what he HAD to be to try and win that game. i wish rondo didnt have allen, pierce and kg so we could make this argument better. i mean he would still get 10apg but would be more of a jkidd(now) kind of player. he might even score more but that percentage would go down. or lets just say rondo wouldnt have the hornets undefeated like paul does.

Steve Nash is 6th. He’s a terrible defensive player and I rather have the other 3 for a season over Nash for a season. He’s pretty much Rondo without defense.

Except that Nash is one the greatest shooters ever and Rondo is one of the worst shooting players in the NBA. While Nash is still a better passer, who makes his teammates better instead of benefitting from them.

Steve Nash is 6th. He’s a terrible defensive player and I rather have the other 3 for a season over Nash for a season. He’s pretty much Rondo without defense.

Except that Nash is one the greatest shooters ever and Rondo is one of the worst shooting players in the NBA. While Nash is still a better passer, who makes his teammates better instead of benefitting from them.

Well first of all, I don’t really think Rondo is a better passer than Williams. Also there is a huge difference between their offensive abilities, and at best a minute difference between their passing ability. Rondo is a better defender, but he is also a much worse shooter. 

Well first of all, I don’t really think Rondo is a better passer than Williams. Also there is a huge difference between their offensive abilities, and at best a minute difference between their passing ability. Rondo is a better defender, but he is also a much worse shooter. 

Let me ask this.

No BS: Who’s the best PLAYER ( not rebounder, passer or none of that BS) on the Boston Celtics

Let me ask this.

No BS: Who’s the best PLAYER ( not rebounder, passer or none of that BS) on the Boston Celtics

Rondo.

Rondo.

 Rondo!! but he still benefits from the other guys!!

 Rondo!! but he still benefits from the other guys!!

 You can nit pick his game and say he doesn’t have a good jumper, which is true, but he shoots 50% from the feild and rarely shoots shots that hurt his team.  His high Bball IQ and knack for finding the open man, allow him to be an effective player without a Steve Nash or Chris Paul like jumper. Sure you’d like that option out of your point guard, but Rondo knows more than anyone that he should make the pass rather than shoot a contested 18 footer.  He takes it when he’s wide open and makes em at a pretty decent clip, just not a guy you want shooting with a hand in his face or when a teammate is open.

 You can nit pick his game and say he doesn’t have a good jumper, which is true, but he shoots 50% from the feild and rarely shoots shots that hurt his team.  His high Bball IQ and knack for finding the open man, allow him to be an effective player without a Steve Nash or Chris Paul like jumper. Sure you’d like that option out of your point guard, but Rondo knows more than anyone that he should make the pass rather than shoot a contested 18 footer.  He takes it when he’s wide open and makes em at a pretty decent clip, just not a guy you want shooting with a hand in his face or when a teammate is open.

You still haven’t explained how Rondo is a better passer than Williams, it seems like you are basing that off of assists per game this year. Well let me cue you into a little secret, Rondo has never averaged more assists than Williams, aside from the very beginning of this year. 

You still haven’t explained how Rondo is a better passer than Williams, it seems like you are basing that off of assists per game this year. Well let me cue you into a little secret, Rondo has never averaged more assists than Williams, aside from the very beginning of this year. 

Um you realize Steve Nash won the mvp with 19, and 11 with Amare Stoudemire playing 3 games, ands Joe Johnson already traded.

Hes proven he is not made better by players, he makes players better.

Um you realize Steve Nash won the mvp with 19, and 11 with Amare Stoudemire playing 3 games, ands Joe Johnson already traded.

Hes proven he is not made better by players, he makes players better.

I’ll take Rondo any day of the week. For the people who say he can’t carry a team, did you forget the playoff? When Rondo put Boston on his back. KG was looking like 50, Ray couldn’t make a shot or he make one miss two, and Paul was gassing out, Rondo was putting in some serious work. Why do people knock Rondo because he plays with HOF talent? We all know his shooting is suspect, but that is not his strength, however his shooting not on par with CP or DWill, you can see the improvement he has made. Would you say Phil Jackson is a sub-par coach because he always coaches superstars/HOF’s? No! Some people will make try to make that argument, and I hate Phil Jackson, but at the end of the day he has the hardware. I love to watch CP and DWill, but Rondo turns it up to 11 when the postseason starts.

To me it’s not that Rondo can’t constantly score, it’s that he doesn’t have to. I think people tend to knock him or keep out of the elite discussion because his offensive numbers is not gouty.

By the way, Wall is not in the discussion not yet, can at least half the season play out before he gets GOAT status.

I’ll take Rondo any day of the week. For the people who say he can’t carry a team, did you forget the playoff? When Rondo put Boston on his back. KG was looking like 50, Ray couldn’t make a shot or he make one miss two, and Paul was gassing out, Rondo was putting in some serious work. Why do people knock Rondo because he plays with HOF talent? We all know his shooting is suspect, but that is not his strength, however his shooting not on par with CP or DWill, you can see the improvement he has made. Would you say Phil Jackson is a sub-par coach because he always coaches superstars/HOF’s? No! Some people will make try to make that argument, and I hate Phil Jackson, but at the end of the day he has the hardware. I love to watch CP and DWill, but Rondo turns it up to 11 when the postseason starts.

To me it’s not that Rondo can’t constantly score, it’s that he doesn’t have to. I think people tend to knock him or keep out of the elite discussion because his offensive numbers is not gouty.

By the way, Wall is not in the discussion not yet, can at least half the season play out before he gets GOAT status.

If Rondo has made any improvements on his shot whatsoever, that only speaks to just how horrendous a shooter he is. He is literally zero threat from down town. None, not even a little bit of threat. And Paul and Williams step up their games in the playoffs too. If you don’t think either of them would make the Celtics better if they switched places with Rondo than you are delusional. 

If Rondo has made any improvements on his shot whatsoever, that only speaks to just how horrendous a shooter he is. He is literally zero threat from down town. None, not even a little bit of threat. And Paul and Williams step up their games in the playoffs too. If you don’t think either of them would make the Celtics better if they switched places with Rondo than you are delusional. 

Sorry that he can’t help the fact that he has veterens around him that allow him to showcase his amazing passing ability. The dude set records for assists at Oak Hill…. 

Sorry that he can’t help the fact that he has veterens around him that allow him to showcase his amazing passing ability. The dude set records for assists at Oak Hill…. 

I never said he wasn’t a good passer or good player. I’m just maintaining that Paul and Williams are better and that it isn’t really close.

I never said he wasn’t a good passer or good player. I’m just maintaining that Paul and Williams are better and that it isn’t really close.

Nash is 2nd and Paul is 3rd…Williams is more of a scorer, I’d place him in catorgory with Billups although D Will is forced to pass by Sloane…If D.Will was on another team he’d be a 25 and 7 guy…Paul has to pass because of his size, he’s like Allen Iverson was but with decent team mates…If he was on a team with less options, He’d be a 25+ 8 guy…

Nash is 2nd and Paul is 3rd…Williams is more of a scorer, I’d place him in catorgory with Billups although D Will is forced to pass by Sloane…If D.Will was on another team he’d be a 25 and 7 guy…Paul has to pass because of his size, he’s like Allen Iverson was but with decent team mates…If he was on a team with less options, He’d be a 25+ 8 guy…

im with imyourfather, rondo is great but he is not better as a player or point guard than deron williams or chris paul. and rondo isnt a better passer than williams, paul or nash. thats not a knock. his numbers are inflated by the talent he plays with. he is still a great player. he couldnt carry a team tho. he needs scorers around him because he will never be that kind of player.

and chris paul is like allen iverson? are u serious scarecrow. a statement like that makes me question wheter you have watched either guy play. that was a flat out dumb statement.

im with imyourfather, rondo is great but he is not better as a player or point guard than deron williams or chris paul. and rondo isnt a better passer than williams, paul or nash. thats not a knock. his numbers are inflated by the talent he plays with. he is still a great player. he couldnt carry a team tho. he needs scorers around him because he will never be that kind of player.

and chris paul is like allen iverson? are u serious scarecrow. a statement like that makes me question wheter you have watched either guy play. that was a flat out dumb statement.

By the logic that Rondo only looks good because he plays with good players then Magic Johnson is not as talented because he had Kareem and James Worthy to pass too. Maybe just maybe Rondo is very skilled player and the fact that he has talented players on his team obvioulsy helps but does not demean his skilll level or ability or make him any less of a player. Also maybe Rondo makes his aging all stars on his team look much better then they are and is just a great player off too an outstanding start. Rondo does his job to the best of his ability and I hate the Celtics because I am a Lakers fan but playing with good players does not make you any less of a talented basketball player. I guess Rondo should demand a trade to the Raptors and try to to do everything by himself on a struggling franchise before his skills are recognized.

By the logic that Rondo only looks good because he plays with good players then Magic Johnson is not as talented because he had Kareem and James Worthy to pass too. Maybe just maybe Rondo is very skilled player and the fact that he has talented players on his team obvioulsy helps but does not demean his skilll level or ability or make him any less of a player. Also maybe Rondo makes his aging all stars on his team look much better then they are and is just a great player off too an outstanding start. Rondo does his job to the best of his ability and I hate the Celtics because I am a Lakers fan but playing with good players does not make you any less of a talented basketball player. I guess Rondo should demand a trade to the Raptors and try to to do everything by himself on a struggling franchise before his skills are recognized.

And Hall of Fame Coach…Kobe had Shaq and the greatest role players ever in Fisher and Horry, not to mention The Mailman and Glove tryed to steal a ring too…Now Kobe’s got Pau and Odom(All star Forwards),Artest and Bynum(Fringe All Star’s) and The Best bench and role players in the NBA(Barnes,Fisher,Blake,Brown,Ratliff)

Rondo is THE BEST PASSER IN THE NBA>>>Period…Nash is the 2nd, Paul is the Third…Some would put Wall in that list too…Once the Gun sounds and the season starts players are playing with a clean slate, so what a player’s done means nothing today…Today Rondo is best passer in the NBA…The Stats don’t lie my man, fans do….

And Hall of Fame Coach…Kobe had Shaq and the greatest role players ever in Fisher and Horry, not to mention The Mailman and Glove tryed to steal a ring too…Now Kobe’s got Pau and Odom(All star Forwards),Artest and Bynum(Fringe All Star’s) and The Best bench and role players in the NBA(Barnes,Fisher,Blake,Brown,Ratliff)

Rondo is THE BEST PASSER IN THE NBA>>>Period…Nash is the 2nd, Paul is the Third…Some would put Wall in that list too…Once the Gun sounds and the season starts players are playing with a clean slate, so what a player’s done means nothing today…Today Rondo is best passer in the NBA…The Stats don’t lie my man, fans do….

 "He is literally zero threat from down town"

Sense when has being a good basketball player meant being a good three point shooter? Rondo does everything you could want from a player, and at a elevated level. He can lead the team in rebounding, SCORING, assists, steals, and any other category that you can think of. Look at his stat line tonight. Insane

 "He is literally zero threat from down town"

Sense when has being a good basketball player meant being a good three point shooter? Rondo does everything you could want from a player, and at a elevated level. He can lead the team in rebounding, SCORING, assists, steals, and any other category that you can think of. Look at his stat line tonight. Insane

im not saying playing with great players makes him better, im saying it helps his numbers. i mean even the little scoring he does get is helped by defenders not leaving pierce, allen or garnett. he is a great player and point guard. he just isnt a better player than williams or paul. thats my only argument.

im not saying playing with great players makes him better, im saying it helps his numbers. i mean even the little scoring he does get is helped by defenders not leaving pierce, allen or garnett. he is a great player and point guard. he just isnt a better player than williams or paul. thats my only argument.

the whole better teamates thing is bullshit, rondo gets layups for people with his great passing. pierce doesn’t help his assists, he takes away from them by going one on one all the time.

i think chris paul is the best, but rondo is the best passer, defender, and rebounder so i would put him second.

deron is a better scorer but rondo just has more impact on games. their team does so much better when he has the ball in his hands.

the whole better teamates thing is bullshit, rondo gets layups for people with his great passing. pierce doesn’t help his assists, he takes away from them by going one on one all the time.

i think chris paul is the best, but rondo is the best passer, defender, and rebounder so i would put him second.

deron is a better scorer but rondo just has more impact on games. their team does so much better when he has the ball in his hands.

Well personally I think rebounds from the pg position are overrated, I’d rather have them get back on D. But, I agree that Rondo is good at all those things, I’m not saying he sucks. I think he’s anywhere from the 3rd to the 5th best point guard in the league. But Deron Williams are good at all those things (sans rebounding), but they are also much better shooters. 

Where are people getting the idea that Williams is a scoring guard. He has averaged more assists than Rondo every year of his career. He is a better shooter and has better offensive instincts than Rondo, while being equally as good at passing, if not better. He is by no means not a pure point guard. 

And no scarecrow stats don’t lie, but they can be highly misleading when you are looking at a tiny sample size. I can almost guarantee you that I can go back and find a 7 game stretch in Deron Williams’s career where he’s averaged 14+ assists. If you want to use assists to determine who’s the best passer, then why not look at all the years where Williams has averaged more. 

Both CP3 and Dwill can do almost everything Rondo does equally as well if not better and they are also deadly from 3-point range. 

Well personally I think rebounds from the pg position are overrated, I’d rather have them get back on D. But, I agree that Rondo is good at all those things, I’m not saying he sucks. I think he’s anywhere from the 3rd to the 5th best point guard in the league. But Deron Williams are good at all those things (sans rebounding), but they are also much better shooters. 

Where are people getting the idea that Williams is a scoring guard. He has averaged more assists than Rondo every year of his career. He is a better shooter and has better offensive instincts than Rondo, while being equally as good at passing, if not better. He is by no means not a pure point guard. 

And no scarecrow stats don’t lie, but they can be highly misleading when you are looking at a tiny sample size. I can almost guarantee you that I can go back and find a 7 game stretch in Deron Williams’s career where he’s averaged 14+ assists. If you want to use assists to determine who’s the best passer, then why not look at all the years where Williams has averaged more. 

Both CP3 and Dwill can do almost everything Rondo does equally as well if not better and they are also deadly from 3-point range. 

i honestly dont know who the better player is, im just giving my opinion, but rondo is the better passer, i dont really see how you can argue deron is a better passer, just watch some celtic games.

i honestly dont know who the better player is, im just giving my opinion, but rondo is the better passer, i dont really see how you can argue deron is a better passer, just watch some celtic games.

Rondo is a great passer for sure, but I don’t see how you can say he’s better than Williams. Just like Rondo Williams makes everyone around him better and racks up a ton of assists. If there is a difference in passing it is negligible. 

Rondo is a great passer for sure, but I don’t see how you can say he’s better than Williams. Just like Rondo Williams makes everyone around him better and racks up a ton of assists. If there is a difference in passing it is negligible. 

about rondo is he can dominate a game without scoring

thats amazing now adays where scoring is what gets you attention

rondo would not have beeen this good without the big three pushing him in pracices and games the last few years

but dont get it twisted CP3 is the best pg on the game today

about rondo is he can dominate a game without scoring

thats amazing now adays where scoring is what gets you attention

rondo would not have beeen this good without the big three pushing him in pracices and games the last few years

but dont get it twisted CP3 is the best pg on the game today

@Scarecrow; you made a comment on the last page about Paul being a scoring PG. Sorry dude, I love Rondo (favourite player), but Paul is a better PG, and while he CAN score, he doesn’t look for it, just takes what the D gives him, hardly makes him a scoring PG like Rose.

I’d still put Rondo above Deron Williams as of right now, but Paul is in a league of his own as far as PGs go. Yes, Rondo is doing amazing things with my Celtics, but Paul led an overmatched team to victory against the Miami Heat through sheer force of will and leadership.

@Scarecrow; you made a comment on the last page about Paul being a scoring PG. Sorry dude, I love Rondo (favourite player), but Paul is a better PG, and while he CAN score, he doesn’t look for it, just takes what the D gives him, hardly makes him a scoring PG like Rose.

I’d still put Rondo above Deron Williams as of right now, but Paul is in a league of his own as far as PGs go. Yes, Rondo is doing amazing things with my Celtics, but Paul led an overmatched team to victory against the Miami Heat through sheer force of will and leadership.

That’s precisely my point. Paul and Williams can both dominate games without scoring too. They don’t often do it because their teams need them to score. But that doesn’t mean they can’t.

That’s precisely my point. Paul and Williams can both dominate games without scoring too. They don’t often do it because their teams need them to score. But that doesn’t mean they can’t.

 1. CP3 career number 19. and 10 

2. D Will 17. and 9

CP3 is a pg and so is D will some people knock him cause he is big but if you watched him or CP3 play and understand the art of passing they can straight up pass the rock. numbers don’t lie.

Rondo may be a better passer than D Will or CP3 def not Nash, but don’t say these cats are not true PG.

That leave questions about what game you watch.

these cats are great passer that can get buckets and dominate a game.

I live in Boston and love Rondo but in no way has he passed the best two in the game.

Maybe 3rd def top 5 

 1. CP3 career number 19. and 10 

2. D Will 17. and 9

CP3 is a pg and so is D will some people knock him cause he is big but if you watched him or CP3 play and understand the art of passing they can straight up pass the rock. numbers don’t lie.

Rondo may be a better passer than D Will or CP3 def not Nash, but don’t say these cats are not true PG.

That leave questions about what game you watch.

these cats are great passer that can get buckets and dominate a game.

I live in Boston and love Rondo but in no way has he passed the best two in the game.

Maybe 3rd def top 5 

Rondo is breaking records while being on a franchise rich in tradition. If the ballots had to be counted today Rondo would be closer to making the hall of fame than any of those trendy point guards being mentioned.

Paul-Rondo has proved to be more durable.

Williams-NBA’s Donovan McNab, it’s hard to trust over weight players in sports.

Rose- Freak of Nature, but Rondo understands the game better.

Steve Nash- Has proven himself/style to be ineffective. Most playoff games ever without a finals appearance.

Rondo is breaking records while being on a franchise rich in tradition. If the ballots had to be counted today Rondo would be closer to making the hall of fame than any of those trendy point guards being mentioned.

Paul-Rondo has proved to be more durable.

Williams-NBA’s Donovan McNab, it’s hard to trust over weight players in sports.

Rose- Freak of Nature, but Rondo understands the game better.

Steve Nash- Has proven himself/style to be ineffective. Most playoff games ever without a finals appearance.

*Overweight

*Overweight

Are you kidding me? Nash ineffective? If you put Rondo on the Suns do you think they get to the Finals? Fuck no. Conference finals? Fuck no. Rondo couldn’t beat the Lakers last year with a much better team, so you can’t put any blame on Nash, they still forced 6 games too. The only reason Rondo has sniffed a finals is because the team around him, and it was much easier to improve. If he had started out on another team he is nowhere near this good.

Are you kidding me? Nash ineffective? If you put Rondo on the Suns do you think they get to the Finals? Fuck no. Conference finals? Fuck no. Rondo couldn’t beat the Lakers last year with a much better team, so you can’t put any blame on Nash, they still forced 6 games too. The only reason Rondo has sniffed a finals is because the team around him, and it was much easier to improve. If he had started out on another team he is nowhere near this good.

Yup Yup don’t take him seriously, he also said that Deron Williams was fat and injury prone. Now he will undoubtedly say something about how I stalk him.

Yup Yup don’t take him seriously, he also said that Deron Williams was fat and injury prone. Now he will undoubtedly say something about how I stalk him.

Yeah, his posts are a joke. Anyways, how is preparing to be Darko going? Must be tough work.

Yeah, his posts are a joke. Anyways, how is preparing to be Darko going? Must be tough work.

It’s going to be difficult for sure. I’ve been trying to get into character by dominating all facets of life. I’ve even bribed my way into going second overall in the intramural basketball draft. Of course I will guide my team to a championship in my first season.  

It’s going to be difficult for sure. I’ve been trying to get into character by dominating all facets of life. I’ve even bribed my way into going second overall in the intramural basketball draft. Of course I will guide my team to a championship in my first season.  

Rondo is the Best Pg in The NBA…Key Word Point Guard…Not guy that starts at Pg and takes more and more shots as the year goes on…Paul and DWill are scoring Pg’s and that’s great, they get the 10 assist games frenquent enough to earn that respect as Best Pg’s in The NBA, but as far as Pure play making, pass first Pg’s Rondo is in a class of his own…It’s not even close…Rondo is the best passer in the last 20 years…Not since Stockon and Magic has a PG been able to effect the game and make teammates better…Rondo is under rated…

Paul had Peja for 3’s, West for mid range jumpers and Chandler for easy alley oops…he still ahs West and Shooters to get those easy Assists…

Paul and Deron Williams are better scorers and bigger names…But Rondo is flat out the Best PG…Leading the league in assist counts as a big point to tip the scales in Rondo’s favor

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I can’t believe you’re serious; Rondo the best passer in the last 20 years? Maybe if he plays like he has so far this season over the next 5 seasons we will be able to say that but right now Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, CP3, Deron Williams and John Stockton (yep Stockton led the league in assists 6 times over the last 20 years so he fits in that category too) all have him beat.
Paul and DWill are scoring Pg’s? Why because they can score? They can also pass and so far over their careers they’ve both been better passers than Rondo. Do you also consider Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas scoring PGs because they averaged over 19 PPG for their careers?

He still has West and Shooter to get those “easy assists”? LOL, yep I mean Paul is just surrounded with great shooters like Bellinelli, Thornton and Ariza it’s almost unfair. I mean if he had to work with mediocre talent like Ray Allen and Paul Pierce he would be doing far less than Rondo…

Leading the league in assists counts as big point to tip the scales in Rondo’s favor? We are 8 games into the year! Do you also consider Monta Ellis the best offensive player in the league because so far he’s leading the league in scoring? So far in his career the closest Rondo has come to averaging 10 assists per game over a season was last year when he had 9.8. CP3 and Williams have averaged more than 10 APG over a season three times apiece.

Rondo is the Best Pg in The NBA…Key Word Point Guard…Not guy that starts at Pg and takes more and more shots as the year goes on…Paul and DWill are scoring Pg’s and that’s great, they get the 10 assist games frenquent enough to earn that respect as Best Pg’s in The NBA, but as far as Pure play making, pass first Pg’s Rondo is in a class of his own…It’s not even close…Rondo is the best passer in the last 20 years…Not since Stockon and Magic has a PG been able to effect the game and make teammates better…Rondo is under rated…

Paul had Peja for 3’s, West for mid range jumpers and Chandler for easy alley oops…he still ahs West and Shooters to get those easy Assists…

Paul and Deron Williams are better scorers and bigger names…But Rondo is flat out the Best PG…Leading the league in assist counts as a big point to tip the scales in Rondo’s favor

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I can’t believe you’re serious; Rondo the best passer in the last 20 years? Maybe if he plays like he has so far this season over the next 5 seasons we will be able to say that but right now Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, CP3, Deron Williams and John Stockton (yep Stockton led the league in assists 6 times over the last 20 years so he fits in that category too) all have him beat.
Paul and DWill are scoring Pg’s? Why because they can score? They can also pass and so far over their careers they’ve both been better passers than Rondo. Do you also consider Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas scoring PGs because they averaged over 19 PPG for their careers?

He still has West and Shooter to get those “easy assists”? LOL, yep I mean Paul is just surrounded with great shooters like Bellinelli, Thornton and Ariza it’s almost unfair. I mean if he had to work with mediocre talent like Ray Allen and Paul Pierce he would be doing far less than Rondo…

Leading the league in assists counts as big point to tip the scales in Rondo’s favor? We are 8 games into the year! Do you also consider Monta Ellis the best offensive player in the league because so far he’s leading the league in scoring? So far in his career the closest Rondo has come to averaging 10 assists per game over a season was last year when he had 9.8. CP3 and Williams have averaged more than 10 APG over a season three times apiece.

ItsDwighHoward knows what’s up.

ItsDwighHoward knows what’s up.

ItsDwighHoward knows what’s up.

Rondo has become one of the best all round PG’s in the NBA with a top defensive game and now an equally effective offensive game. I would put him in that 2nd batch behind CP and Deron with Nash, Rose, Billups etc. He does help having so many scorers on his team but a good PG will provide assists that’s what he’s there for, maybe not enough credit was given to him when Boston won their title but Derek Fisher whilst a great pro is hardly the greatest PG in the NBA and a title is a team effort.

If Rondo lead the Celtics to another title in the next few years then that does put him at the elite level if he was the best player on that team.

Rondo has become one of the best all round PG’s in the NBA with a top defensive game and now an equally effective offensive game. I would put him in that 2nd batch behind CP and Deron with Nash, Rose, Billups etc. He does help having so many scorers on his team but a good PG will provide assists that’s what he’s there for, maybe not enough credit was given to him when Boston won their title but Derek Fisher whilst a great pro is hardly the greatest PG in the NBA and a title is a team effort.

If Rondo lead the Celtics to another title in the next few years then that does put him at the elite level if he was the best player on that team.

and its not even like we are saying rondo is horrible, we are giving him his due as a top5 pg in the league. and as far as rondos defense i think its overrated. rose averaged like 30ppg in that playoff series a few years ago, so he isnt that great, he just gambles and gets steals.

and its not even like we are saying rondo is horrible, we are giving him his due as a top5 pg in the league. and as far as rondos defense i think its overrated. rose averaged like 30ppg in that playoff series a few years ago, so he isnt that great, he just gambles and gets steals.

and its not even like we are saying rondo is horrible, we are giving him his due as a top5 pg in the league. and as far as rondos defense i think its overrated. rose averaged like 30ppg in that playoff series a few years ago, so he isnt that great, he just gambles and gets steals.

and its not even like we are saying rondo is horrible, we are giving him his due as a top5 pg in the league. and as far as rondos defense i think its overrated. rose averaged like 30ppg in that playoff series a few years ago, so he isnt that great, he just gambles and gets steals.

I think most people are hating on Rondo really. The guy is doing work for his team and CARRIED his team the last two postseasons with his pedestrian, yet efficient scoring. How many players can do that in the NBA? To say the guy wouldn’t be good without good team mates is an insult to his ability; Morover, how can we even judge him and say he wouldn’t be good without good team mates when we’ve never actually seen him play without good players? That is an irellevant point. When people talk about championship teams, why does there have to be one player carring a team? Since when has one great player won a championship for a team, moreover, at the point guard position? A great PG needs great talent around him to win a championship. It’s not like the Celtics’ big three are in their prime. People make a big deal that these guys are future HoF, but how much does that matter now when all of them are past their prime, especially KG, who can’t even make a wide open dunk 90% of the time? These guys would be struggling without Rondo right now, and that cannot be understated. I don’t understand how that is overrated. The guy basically is carring his team right now, but obviously, scoring is more valued on this forum over Ast/TO ratio, rebounding, and defense for the PG position.

It’s offical: Rondo and Monta Ellis are the most hated players on this forum.

I think most people are hating on Rondo really. The guy is doing work for his team and CARRIED his team the last two postseasons with his pedestrian, yet efficient scoring. How many players can do that in the NBA? To say the guy wouldn’t be good without good team mates is an insult to his ability; Morover, how can we even judge him and say he wouldn’t be good without good team mates when we’ve never actually seen him play without good players? That is an irellevant point. When people talk about championship teams, why does there have to be one player carring a team? Since when has one great player won a championship for a team, moreover, at the point guard position? A great PG needs great talent around him to win a championship. It’s not like the Celtics’ big three are in their prime. People make a big deal that these guys are future HoF, but how much does that matter now when all of them are past their prime, especially KG, who can’t even make a wide open dunk 90% of the time? These guys would be struggling without Rondo right now, and that cannot be understated. I don’t understand how that is overrated. The guy basically is carring his team right now, but obviously, scoring is more valued on this forum over Ast/TO ratio, rebounding, and defense for the PG position.

It’s offical: Rondo and Monta Ellis are the most hated players on this forum.

Name me a coach/teammate that wouldn’t want Rondo on their team…I guess leading the Championship contending Celtics and NBA in assist makes you top 5, but putting up stats in NOLA and UTAH( 2 teams that will never be a real contender to the Lakers) is the end all be all in the Debate…Rondo has a Ring and would have gotten one last while winning Finals MVP if the Team had their legs under them last year…

Can we agree The Celtics are the Team to beat in the East and will probally be in the Finals with Rondo being the best player…How are Paul and Williams better than him…They’ll never lead their teams to a Finals…not without jumping ship for some super Team *cough* Chris Paul *cough*

Name me a coach/teammate that wouldn’t want Rondo on their team…I guess leading the Championship contending Celtics and NBA in assist makes you top 5, but putting up stats in NOLA and UTAH( 2 teams that will never be a real contender to the Lakers) is the end all be all in the Debate…Rondo has a Ring and would have gotten one last while winning Finals MVP if the Team had their legs under them last year…

Can we agree The Celtics are the Team to beat in the East and will probally be in the Finals with Rondo being the best player…How are Paul and Williams better than him…They’ll never lead their teams to a Finals…not without jumping ship for some super Team *cough* Chris Paul *cough*

Name me a coach/teammate that wouldn’t want Rondo on their team…I guess leading the Championship contending Celtics and NBA in assist makes you top 5, but putting up stats in NOLA and UTAH( 2 teams that will never be a real contender to the Lakers) is the end all be all in the Debate…Rondo has a Ring and would have gotten one last while winning Finals MVP if the Team had their legs under them last year…

Can we agree The Celtics are the Team to beat in the East and will probally be in the Finals with Rondo being the best player…How are Paul and Williams better than him…They’ll never lead their teams to a Finals…not without jumping ship for some super Team *cough* Chris Paul *cough*

If they don’t lead their teams to the finals it won’t be because Rondo’s better. It will be because the Celtics are a lot better than either the Jazz or the Hornets. Do you honestly not think Paul or Williams could perform as well on the celtics?

If they don’t lead their teams to the finals it won’t be because Rondo’s better. It will be because the Celtics are a lot better than either the Jazz or the Hornets. Do you honestly not think Paul or Williams could perform as well on the celtics?

I’d go: Paul, Rondo, Williams, Nash, Westbrook

I like Rose, but he’s just out there. I’ll ask: What if Russell Westbrook was on a team where he was an number one guy? Could he put up similar (if not better) numbers compared to Rose?

I’d go: Paul, Rondo, Williams, Nash, Westbrook

I like Rose, but he’s just out there. I’ll ask: What if Russell Westbrook was on a team where he was an number one guy? Could he put up similar (if not better) numbers compared to Rose?