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- Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:17pm #22784

SteroidParticipantWho do you guys think is the most overrated player in the league? I’m not asking who is the most overpaid or overvalued player although sometimes that can go hand in hand, but generally speaking, overpaid and overrated are two different things in my mind.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:21pm #425556
nateoak10ParticipantOverpaid: Elton Brand
Overrated: Noah
Alos about ur picture, Kobe got raped by the big 3 as well as raping them
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:21pm #425566
nateoak10ParticipantOverpaid: Elton Brand
Overrated: Noah
Alos about ur picture, Kobe got raped by the big 3 as well as raping them
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:21pm #425558

Toronto16Participant45 Million? Mike Conley is.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:21pm #425568

Toronto16Participant45 Million? Mike Conley is.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:23pm #425561
Michael.S.ParticipantChris Bosh and ,to a much lesser extent, Rajon Rondo.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:23pm #425570
Michael.S.ParticipantChris Bosh and ,to a much lesser extent, Rajon Rondo.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:27pm #425563

SteroidParticipantElton Brand was expected to do big things before he got hurt, so his contract is somewhat justified. I don’t think the 6ers expected Brand to become a shell of himself through an injury. Before that, Brand was a 20-10 guy.
I don’t think anyone thinks Conley is that good, so I would say he is just overvalued by the Grizzlies organization.
Yeah, Noah is overrated by a lot of people on forums and such. He is overvalued too by his org.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:27pm #425572

SteroidParticipantElton Brand was expected to do big things before he got hurt, so his contract is somewhat justified. I don’t think the 6ers expected Brand to become a shell of himself through an injury. Before that, Brand was a 20-10 guy.
I don’t think anyone thinks Conley is that good, so I would say he is just overvalued by the Grizzlies organization.
Yeah, Noah is overrated by a lot of people on forums and such. He is overvalued too by his org.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:33pm #425571

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantJoe Johnson wins both categories.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 5:33pm #425581

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantJoe Johnson wins both categories.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:20pm #425596
mxhart532Participantlike Kobe and Lebron do.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:20pm #425606
mxhart532Participantlike Kobe and Lebron do.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:26pm #425598

JNixonParticipantIMO it’s Brook Lopez. For all this talk about him being a top 5 C, he struggles to make the Nets more than a below average team. He’s got some offensive skills, but he’s not a great rebounder, plays robotic at times, and is a pretty shaky defender.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:26pm #425608

JNixonParticipantIMO it’s Brook Lopez. For all this talk about him being a top 5 C, he struggles to make the Nets more than a below average team. He’s got some offensive skills, but he’s not a great rebounder, plays robotic at times, and is a pretty shaky defender.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:31pm #425603
Kinguy11ParticipantMost overpaid: Mike Conley/Joe Johnson
Most Overrated: Nicolas Batum/Johnny Flynn
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:31pm #425612
Kinguy11ParticipantMost overpaid: Mike Conley/Joe Johnson
Most Overrated: Nicolas Batum/Johnny Flynn
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:35pm #425605
mxhart532Participantsorry that cut off the rest of what i was saying. Durant is overrated for the simple fact that he is put into the same conversation as Kobe and Lebron. Right now Durant is a second tier star along with CP3, D12, and Melo. The 2nd tier guys dominate OCCASIONALLY, not normally like Kobe and Lebron. Nonetheless, I believe with the emergence of Westbrook as a legit 2nd option that Durant will be able to focus more on defense/ rebounding and join Kobe and Lebron.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:35pm #425614
mxhart532Participantsorry that cut off the rest of what i was saying. Durant is overrated for the simple fact that he is put into the same conversation as Kobe and Lebron. Right now Durant is a second tier star along with CP3, D12, and Melo. The 2nd tier guys dominate OCCASIONALLY, not normally like Kobe and Lebron. Nonetheless, I believe with the emergence of Westbrook as a legit 2nd option that Durant will be able to focus more on defense/ rebounding and join Kobe and Lebron.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:38pm #425607
canesboy6ParticipantMo Williams, its not even close. Then Rudy Gay.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 6:38pm #425616
canesboy6ParticipantMo Williams, its not even close. Then Rudy Gay.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 8:32pm #425655
SwatLakeCityParticipantDanny Granger. People think that his average of 25pts is legit, but it really isn’t. If you put him any other team, he is just a second option. The only reason why he averages 25 pts a game is because he has to in order for the Pacers to have a chance. People think that because of his averages he is a first option scorer, when really he is only a 2nd option. I can think of about 15 teams where he would have to defer to someone else thus causing his averages to go down to about 15 pts a game.
I also agree with Mo Williams, and to an extent Mike Conley.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 8:32pm #425657
SwatLakeCityParticipantDanny Granger. People think that his average of 25pts is legit, but it really isn’t. If you put him any other team, he is just a second option. The only reason why he averages 25 pts a game is because he has to in order for the Pacers to have a chance. People think that because of his averages he is a first option scorer, when really he is only a 2nd option. I can think of about 15 teams where he would have to defer to someone else thus causing his averages to go down to about 15 pts a game.
I also agree with Mo Williams, and to an extent Mike Conley.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 8:32pm #425664
SwatLakeCityParticipantDanny Granger. People think that his average of 25pts is legit, but it really isn’t. If you put him any other team, he is just a second option. The only reason why he averages 25 pts a game is because he has to in order for the Pacers to have a chance. People think that because of his averages he is a first option scorer, when really he is only a 2nd option. I can think of about 15 teams where he would have to defer to someone else thus causing his averages to go down to about 15 pts a game.
I also agree with Mo Williams, and to an extent Mike Conley.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 8:32pm #425666
SwatLakeCityParticipantDanny Granger. People think that his average of 25pts is legit, but it really isn’t. If you put him any other team, he is just a second option. The only reason why he averages 25 pts a game is because he has to in order for the Pacers to have a chance. People think that because of his averages he is a first option scorer, when really he is only a 2nd option. I can think of about 15 teams where he would have to defer to someone else thus causing his averages to go down to about 15 pts a game.
I also agree with Mo Williams, and to an extent Mike Conley.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 1:34am #425687
NYK2010ParticipantMost overpaid: too many to list but yeah Mike Conley, JJ, Brand, Arenas, Lewis thats a perfect top 5
Most overrated: John Salmons, Noah, Rashard Lewis, Nicholas Batum, Vince Carter
Good pt. MxHard Durant gets too much love probly from Lebron haters.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 1:34am #425696
NYK2010ParticipantMost overpaid: too many to list but yeah Mike Conley, JJ, Brand, Arenas, Lewis thats a perfect top 5
Most overrated: John Salmons, Noah, Rashard Lewis, Nicholas Batum, Vince Carter
Good pt. MxHard Durant gets too much love probly from Lebron haters.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 2:27am #425691
Cardinal_FanParticipantDirk Nowitzki imo. U talk about a guy who is praised year in an year out but to me he is on the same level as Vince Carter. He has monster regular seasons but has never put dallas over the top. Dirk should be the most unguardable player in the league with his size combined with he perimiter and post up skills, but in the post season he disappears year in and year out. Honestly i wouldnt have resigned him this offseason if i was Dallas and i would start rebuilding becuz having Dirk as your center piece will never bring you an NBA title.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 2:27am #425700
Cardinal_FanParticipantDirk Nowitzki imo. U talk about a guy who is praised year in an year out but to me he is on the same level as Vince Carter. He has monster regular seasons but has never put dallas over the top. Dirk should be the most unguardable player in the league with his size combined with he perimiter and post up skills, but in the post season he disappears year in and year out. Honestly i wouldnt have resigned him this offseason if i was Dallas and i would start rebuilding becuz having Dirk as your center piece will never bring you an NBA title.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 2:57am #425697
Cusemen727ParticipantYour theory is beyond flawed IMO, so according to you CP3, DWILL, LeBron, Melo, KD, Dirk, Dwight, and any other star player you can think of is overrated because they havent won a championship, I mean there have only been like 5 teams that have won the championship in the past 15 years.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 2:57am #425705
Cusemen727ParticipantYour theory is beyond flawed IMO, so according to you CP3, DWILL, LeBron, Melo, KD, Dirk, Dwight, and any other star player you can think of is overrated because they havent won a championship, I mean there have only been like 5 teams that have won the championship in the past 15 years.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:01am #425701
Cusemen727ParticipantAnd to answer the question to me the most overrated player is prolly A’mare, very good scorer, but nothing else.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:01am #425709
Cusemen727ParticipantAnd to answer the question to me the most overrated player is prolly A’mare, very good scorer, but nothing else.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:27am #425718

Toronto16Participant - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:27am #425725

Toronto16Participant - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:35am #425733

JoeWolf1Brandon Jennings is very overrated at the moment, IMO. He is still young and working the kinks out of his game. He is still a good player with a lot of potential, but has yet to shoot a good percentage from the field. I know PG’s as a whole shoot one of the lower percanteges per position, but the dude has yet to crack 40% and some people act like he’s a fringe all-star. I heard probable HOF after he dropped 55 last year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:35am #425726

JoeWolf1Brandon Jennings is very overrated at the moment, IMO. He is still young and working the kinks out of his game. He is still a good player with a lot of potential, but has yet to shoot a good percentage from the field. I know PG’s as a whole shoot one of the lower percanteges per position, but the dude has yet to crack 40% and some people act like he’s a fringe all-star. I heard probable HOF after he dropped 55 last year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 4:05am #425742

Meditated StatesParticipantDirk slightly is too. I agree he needs to be number two on a team not 1. Dallas will not win a title just be competitive with him. Mo Williams is just a jump shooter not much else he is overrated. Amare is just a scorer too. He should average 10 rebounds and 2 blocks easy every year. I like Brandon Jennings,but I agree he has not been aggresive enough, and settles for too many jumpers. Needs to be more aggressive.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 4:05am #425749

Meditated StatesParticipantDirk slightly is too. I agree he needs to be number two on a team not 1. Dallas will not win a title just be competitive with him. Mo Williams is just a jump shooter not much else he is overrated. Amare is just a scorer too. He should average 10 rebounds and 2 blocks easy every year. I like Brandon Jennings,but I agree he has not been aggresive enough, and settles for too many jumpers. Needs to be more aggressive.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 4:22am #425745
the microwaveParticipantover payed – half the lg…could go on for days.
over rated – chris bosh aka the rupaul of bigmen..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 4:22am #425753
the microwaveParticipantover payed – half the lg…could go on for days.
over rated – chris bosh aka the rupaul of bigmen..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 4:39am #425750

torontoraptors10ParticipantOverated -Hedo Turkoglu
Overpaid – Hedo Turkoglu
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 4:39am #425757

torontoraptors10ParticipantOverated -Hedo Turkoglu
Overpaid – Hedo Turkoglu
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 5:08am #425784
GalamothParticipantYou have a point on Granger that he is probably better suited for a secondary option, but the extent to which you exagerrated is fairly humorous… 15 pts a game. lol. Maybe if by different team you mean UCLA.
Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the league. No doubt he’s a dominant for physically and fills the stat lines for Centers, but he hasn’t shown that he can be the dominant force of a playoff series against teams with strong opposing big men. A prime example of what he’s not would be Tim Duncan in the second and third of those Spurs championship runs.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 5:08am #425791
GalamothParticipantYou have a point on Granger that he is probably better suited for a secondary option, but the extent to which you exagerrated is fairly humorous… 15 pts a game. lol. Maybe if by different team you mean UCLA.
Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the league. No doubt he’s a dominant for physically and fills the stat lines for Centers, but he hasn’t shown that he can be the dominant force of a playoff series against teams with strong opposing big men. A prime example of what he’s not would be Tim Duncan in the second and third of those Spurs championship runs.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 5:12am #425792

delfamParticipantno love for Jose Calderon, they guy is on the bench and is getting paid big bucks.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 5:12am #425799

delfamParticipantno love for Jose Calderon, they guy is on the bench and is getting paid big bucks.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 5:18am #425800
SupParticipantLebron James. Can’t dribble, can’t shoot. Turnover prone. He lives off the whistle and then he misses the freethrow. Great on the fastbreak, who isn’t. Oh yeah no rings yet he gets compared to Kobe. Why not start comparing Monte Ellis to Kobe, why stop there throw Kevin Martin and JR Smith in the convo.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 5:18am #425807
SupParticipantLebron James. Can’t dribble, can’t shoot. Turnover prone. He lives off the whistle and then he misses the freethrow. Great on the fastbreak, who isn’t. Oh yeah no rings yet he gets compared to Kobe. Why not start comparing Monte Ellis to Kobe, why stop there throw Kevin Martin and JR Smith in the convo.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 6:34am #425885

OhCanada-ParticipantOverpaid-Everybody
Overpaid -Eddy Curry
Overrated-Andre Igoudala
Nuff said.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 6:34am #425890

OhCanada-ParticipantOverpaid-Everybody
Overpaid -Eddy Curry
Overrated-Andre Igoudala
Nuff said.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:41am #425950

IndianaBasketballParticipantGranger isn’t overrated at all. He’s a legit 20+ scorer. And now that the Pacers have Collison and an improved Hibbert, he’ll be able to focus on other areas of his game and not be as responsible for so much of the offensive load.
I don’t think anybody considers him a championship caliber first option. He’s not getting paid like one either. There are TEN players at his position getting paid more than him this season.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:41am #425953

IndianaBasketballParticipantGranger isn’t overrated at all. He’s a legit 20+ scorer. And now that the Pacers have Collison and an improved Hibbert, he’ll be able to focus on other areas of his game and not be as responsible for so much of the offensive load.
I don’t think anybody considers him a championship caliber first option. He’s not getting paid like one either. There are TEN players at his position getting paid more than him this season.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:43am #425954

IndianaBasketballParticipantMost Overpaid – Rashard Lewis
Most Overrated – Joakim Noah. I’m a fan. He’s a good player, but overrated. He’s an overglorified role player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:43am #425957

IndianaBasketballParticipantMost Overpaid – Rashard Lewis
Most Overrated – Joakim Noah. I’m a fan. He’s a good player, but overrated. He’s an overglorified role player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:44am #425955

OhCanada-ParticipantGranger would be a better piece to make the Knicks championship contenders then Melo would.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:44am #425960

OhCanada-ParticipantGranger would be a better piece to make the Knicks championship contenders then Melo would.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:48am #425959

IndianaBasketballParticipantI don’t know about that now…
I mean, unless you’re looking at it from a financial standpoint. Granger wouldn’t cost as much, which would give the Knicks more flexibility to add a couple of more pieces.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:48am #425964

IndianaBasketballParticipantI don’t know about that now…
I mean, unless you’re looking at it from a financial standpoint. Granger wouldn’t cost as much, which would give the Knicks more flexibility to add a couple of more pieces.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:57am #425965

The Splash DocParticipantOverrated and overvalued – Joakim Noah- I mean Carmelo is right there for the taking I’d pick Carmelo and get a defensive Center easily I mean Earl Barron is FA right now and he averaged 11 and 11 he’s no Noah but if I’m Chicago’s GM I do this now.
Overpaid- Rashard Lewis because 1 Joe Johnson just got his contract and 2 Lewis is 3 in a 4’s body but is too slow to play the 3 I honestly would bring him off the bench and start Gortat or Bass
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:57am #425970

The Splash DocParticipantOverrated and overvalued – Joakim Noah- I mean Carmelo is right there for the taking I’d pick Carmelo and get a defensive Center easily I mean Earl Barron is FA right now and he averaged 11 and 11 he’s no Noah but if I’m Chicago’s GM I do this now.
Overpaid- Rashard Lewis because 1 Joe Johnson just got his contract and 2 Lewis is 3 in a 4’s body but is too slow to play the 3 I honestly would bring him off the bench and start Gortat or Bass
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