so what was the consensus again?

I honestly don’t even remember what I thought at the time, but I know it wasn’t anything good about him lol

I honestly don’t even remember what I thought at the time, but I know it wasn’t anything good about him lol

Bottom line is, he hasn’t won a championship yet.

Bottom line is, he hasn’t won a championship yet.

I dont think he threw it…Boston just was the better team…..

I dont think he threw it…Boston just was the better team…..

mo williams stunk up the joint..

and mike brown had no game plan…and a poor prostitution pattern…

mo williams stunk up the joint..

and mike brown had no game plan…and a poor prostitution pattern…

i mean substitution pattern…lmao

i mean substitution pattern…lmao

How did he do in the series?   Mo Williams take a lot of crap for his play but what player on the Cavs had the max contract?    LeBron played General Mgr. while Danny Ferry was his secretary… he received a good portion of the players he asked for ( A. Jamison/ Shaq etc.)    LeBron’s circle of people were in Ferry’s ear every step of the way so for anyone to criticize the Cavs roster is a bunch of crap…  I’ve never ever given a rip about the Cavs as a franchise but I know bullship when I hear it…    Lebron was planning on leaving a long time before  he admitted to it…  again no big deal  ( I have zero rooting interest….  but be honest about it and don’t pin it on Danny Ferry,  he was GM in name only  (an average GM that was just lucky enough to have the rights to James for 7 years).

How did he do in the series?   Mo Williams take a lot of crap for his play but what player on the Cavs had the max contract?    LeBron played General Mgr. while Danny Ferry was his secretary… he received a good portion of the players he asked for ( A. Jamison/ Shaq etc.)    LeBron’s circle of people were in Ferry’s ear every step of the way so for anyone to criticize the Cavs roster is a bunch of crap…  I’ve never ever given a rip about the Cavs as a franchise but I know bullship when I hear it…    Lebron was planning on leaving a long time before  he admitted to it…  again no big deal  ( I have zero rooting interest….  but be honest about it and don’t pin it on Danny Ferry,  he was GM in name only  (an average GM that was just lucky enough to have the rights to James for 7 years).

that team was exactly what lebron wanted he asked for and he got whatever he wanted with the cavs ur rite on about ferry being a lame duck gm in name lebron controlled the cavs as for him throwing the series i dont think he threw it ut when he found out d west was beatin the rakes off mamma james his head just wasnt rite yea that wouldnt be easy to deal with but u gotta buck up do ur job and not let it affect your play u think mj or kobe wouldnt b able to control their emotions in that situation

that team was exactly what lebron wanted he asked for and he got whatever he wanted with the cavs ur rite on about ferry being a lame duck gm in name lebron controlled the cavs as for him throwing the series i dont think he threw it ut when he found out d west was beatin the rakes off mamma james his head just wasnt rite yea that wouldnt be easy to deal with but u gotta buck up do ur job and not let it affect your play u think mj or kobe wouldnt b able to control their emotions in that situation

LeBron did not play particularily well in the series, but it was quite obvious that something was bothering him and he was not himself. When you are hurt, things can be off in your game, and when you can’t extend your elbow without serious pain, than of course it is a hinderance. That being said, he was playing, and it was not an excuse, but I definitely think he was trying. The Celtics were the better team, as is usually the case when you win a play-off series. LeBron was still quite often the best player on the floor, in their two victories and some of the losses, including Game 6 with his ridiculous triple double, but the Celtics were a better team, and the better team won. LeBron had one game where he played incredibly poorly, Game 5, but otherwise, while he was not himself, I do not think he was throwing games. The rest of the Cavaliers also played incredibly poorly, especially defensively, but LeBron consistently shut down Paul Pierce throughout the series, showing that the divide between those players has grown substantially. But otherwise, I definitely disagree with peoples assumption that LeBron was not trying against the Celtics. It was a case where he could not do what he usually was able to do, rather than not trying to do it, if that makes sense.

LeBron did not play particularily well in the series, but it was quite obvious that something was bothering him and he was not himself. When you are hurt, things can be off in your game, and when you can’t extend your elbow without serious pain, than of course it is a hinderance. That being said, he was playing, and it was not an excuse, but I definitely think he was trying. The Celtics were the better team, as is usually the case when you win a play-off series. LeBron was still quite often the best player on the floor, in their two victories and some of the losses, including Game 6 with his ridiculous triple double, but the Celtics were a better team, and the better team won. LeBron had one game where he played incredibly poorly, Game 5, but otherwise, while he was not himself, I do not think he was throwing games. The rest of the Cavaliers also played incredibly poorly, especially defensively, but LeBron consistently shut down Paul Pierce throughout the series, showing that the divide between those players has grown substantially. But otherwise, I definitely disagree with peoples assumption that LeBron was not trying against the Celtics. It was a case where he could not do what he usually was able to do, rather than not trying to do it, if that makes sense.

i very vividly remmeber one play in game 6 where he was wide open for a 15 footer with no one on him and the clock winding down, and he kicked it out to andersen verajao to shoot a 20 footer. That kinda play made no sense at all and makes me question where lebrons head was.

i very vividly remmeber one play in game 6 where he was wide open for a 15 footer with no one on him and the clock winding down, and he kicked it out to andersen verajao to shoot a 20 footer. That kinda play made no sense at all and makes me question where lebrons head was.

I won’t say he "threw" the series, but something wasn’t right. I know he put up decent numbers and had good games, but I remember watching every game and just feeling like he wasn’t playing his hardest or something. It was confusing to watch.

I won’t say he "threw" the series, but something wasn’t right. I know he put up decent numbers and had good games, but I remember watching every game and just feeling like he wasn’t playing his hardest or something. It was confusing to watch.

Yeah I wanna watch the games over again. LeBron was putting up good stats, but something was wrong..

Yeah I wanna watch the games over again. LeBron was putting up good stats, but something was wrong..

your all correct about how he seemed not there mentally he couldnt handle the emotions from knowing his team mate was making sticky with his mamma

your all correct about how he seemed not there mentally he couldnt handle the emotions from knowing his team mate was making sticky with his mamma

I have a feeling he’ll go all out with the Heat though. He actually has something to look forward to now…playin with Wade and Bosh will renew his energy and I think he’ll play with a passion in the playoffs that he never played with in Cleveland

I have a feeling he’ll go all out with the Heat though. He actually has something to look forward to now…playin with Wade and Bosh will renew his energy and I think he’ll play with a passion in the playoffs that he never played with in Cleveland

Yea I mean he definitely wasn’t playing with passion when he averaged 29ppg 8rpg and 7apg for his career playoff average. Especially that one one playoff series against Orlando when he averaged 38ppg 9rpg and 7apg.  That time when he scored 25 straight points to lead his team to an overtime victory over Detroit is another great example of him not displaying passion in the playoffs. 

Yea I mean he definitely wasn’t playing with passion when he averaged 29ppg 8rpg and 7apg for his career playoff average. Especially that one one playoff series against Orlando when he averaged 38ppg 9rpg and 7apg.  That time when he scored 25 straight points to lead his team to an overtime victory over Detroit is another great example of him not displaying passion in the playoffs. 

What do stats matter when your team is getting demolished?   

What do stats matter when your team is getting demolished?   

Do you not think those stats are impressive? Do you think that they are indicative of his not trying his hardest? The fact is that he lost to better teams. I get it that you hate Lebron but he has been incredibly impressive in the playoffs throughout his career.

Do you not think those stats are impressive? Do you think that they are indicative of his not trying his hardest? The fact is that he lost to better teams. I get it that you hate Lebron but he has been incredibly impressive in the playoffs throughout his career.

It’s a team game…  numbers are fine but can be very misleading due to the fact that someone on the team has to score and handle the ball…  even the worst teams in the league have guys that put up stats,  so what?   I’m more impressed with victories than stats.

It’s a team game…  numbers are fine but can be very misleading due to the fact that someone on the team has to score and handle the ball…  even the worst teams in the league have guys that put up stats,  so what?   I’m more impressed with victories than stats.