most overrated player ever

 Yeah that’s the only bad thing about Jennings. Curry is definitely better than Jennings. Although I wouldn’t say he is the most overrated player ever. Not everyone raves about him, like they do Curry, or Rose or any other top PG. The most overrated player I’d say is Danny Granger. Great on offense, average defense, but not very versatile. People think he is better than Rudy Gay. Please. They aren’t even on the same level athletically.

 Yeah that’s the only bad thing about Jennings. Curry is definitely better than Jennings. Although I wouldn’t say he is the most overrated player ever. Not everyone raves about him, like they do Curry, or Rose or any other top PG. The most overrated player I’d say is Danny Granger. Great on offense, average defense, but not very versatile. People think he is better than Rudy Gay. Please. They aren’t even on the same level athletically.

Granger is overrated? Based on what… His play in Turkey? How isn’t he versatile when he plays both wing spots and power forward?

Other than athleticism, I don’t see what Gay does better than him. Gay is average on defense as well. Offensively he isn’t as efficient as Granger, nor is he as good of a shooter. Gay is a ball stopper.

I do agree with Jennings being somewhat overrated. There were people on here saying he’d be better than Rose and Westbrook by the end of his rookie season.

Granger is overrated? Based on what… His play in Turkey? How isn’t he versatile when he plays both wing spots and power forward?

Other than athleticism, I don’t see what Gay does better than him. Gay is average on defense as well. Offensively he isn’t as efficient as Granger, nor is he as good of a shooter. Gay is a ball stopper.

I do agree with Jennings being somewhat overrated. There were people on here saying he’d be better than Rose and Westbrook by the end of his rookie season.

 Wait. How is he the most overrated player ever after only one year in the league? He played inconsistent like alot of rookies do. But he also put up very good numbers for a 19 year old rookie. 

 Wait. How is he the most overrated player ever after only one year in the league? He played inconsistent like alot of rookies do. But he also put up very good numbers for a 19 year old rookie. 

 And i have to disagree with Granger being over rated Also. 25ppg the last couple years. Great scorer, decent rebounder and makes an occasional defensive play. He just needs to stay a little more healthy and win some more games and then people will see his real value to the Pacers.

 And i have to disagree with Granger being over rated Also. 25ppg the last couple years. Great scorer, decent rebounder and makes an occasional defensive play. He just needs to stay a little more healthy and win some more games and then people will see his real value to the Pacers.

 I don’t like Granger and I am obsessed with Gay’s length and athleticism so this isn’t bias at all but.,..

Danny Granger is better then Rudy Gay.  Danngy Granger averaged 26 points per game which is a lot of points and only a few players in this league, even if givin the right opportunity right now can manage that.

I still think Gay will eventually surpass Granger but right now Granger is better…

And Brandon Jennings is not overrated…He is a fascinating player to watch with the ball and flairs up nostalgia of a young A.I…

And Steph Curry will only be better the Jennings for 2 years at most…

 I don’t like Granger and I am obsessed with Gay’s length and athleticism so this isn’t bias at all but.,..

Danny Granger is better then Rudy Gay.  Danngy Granger averaged 26 points per game which is a lot of points and only a few players in this league, even if givin the right opportunity right now can manage that.

I still think Gay will eventually surpass Granger but right now Granger is better…

And Brandon Jennings is not overrated…He is a fascinating player to watch with the ball and flairs up nostalgia of a young A.I…

And Steph Curry will only be better the Jennings for 2 years at most…

Jennings just has to become a better shooter if he’s gonna take as many shots as he did last year…Shooting in the mid to late 30 percentage range is something he needs to drastically improve

Most over rated of all time would have to be someone like Felipe Lopez or someone who got tons of hype early on and never even came close to reaching it…

Jennings just has to become a better shooter if he’s gonna take as many shots as he did last year…Shooting in the mid to late 30 percentage range is something he needs to drastically improve

Most over rated of all time would have to be someone like Felipe Lopez or someone who got tons of hype early on and never even came close to reaching it…

Jennings is a good point guard with great upside, but today I read on this site that he would be the best point guard in the East next season… That’s what I mean by slightly overrated by some people. People were giving him too much credit for the Bucks’ playoff run last season. He’s more flash than substance right now in my opinion.

Jennings is a good point guard with great upside, but today I read on this site that he would be the best point guard in the East next season… That’s what I mean by slightly overrated by some people. People were giving him too much credit for the Bucks’ playoff run last season. He’s more flash than substance right now in my opinion.

 Jennings didn’t shoot well overall but he shot remarkably well from 3.

And I’m still under the impression that Jrue Holiday will be the best PG from that class because of the same reasons Rondo is the best PG, not the 2nd best, The best PG in the East.

Rondo will prevent as many points during the course of a game as Rose will score with his defense.

Holiday will eventually do the same thing.  He will develop into an all world defender in a Gary Payton mold just unfortunatly for me without the trash talk.  Gary Payton was the man because he would taunt you the whole way up the court bobbing his head talking sh!t then steal the ball off you right after half court.

But BaskatBalAllen I’m not going to take any points off because you provided good reasons for your choices however I think you have a bad lists.  Anthony Randolph is extremely overrated.

Jennings is neither here nor there he did some very impressive things last year and brought that Bucks franchise from the basement of the NBA to one of the more exciting franchises in the league because of him.  And Jennings got the perfect personality to lead a franchise.  For them reasons I do not think he is overrated yet.

Michael Beasley gets too much hate to be overrated.  The Heat basically gave him away and you still have doubters.  I think you are partly right about what you said but Beasley does play with passion.  He did at Kansas State and kinda lost it on the Heat.  But B-Easy looks like he got his passion back and he could be very dangerous this year.

For the Sixers sake I hope Cousins is overrated.  I wanted him over Turner in the worse way because he got the personality that Philly needs to bring basketball back to the city.  Right now in Philly nobody cares at all about the Sixers.  We open out season against the Heat and I still can’t find anybody that wants to go to the game with me.  With The Eagles and Phillies taking all the hype in this city and the Flyers 2 years removed from a Stanley Cup appearance The Sixers get no love.  Cousins was the type of personality that would of commanded attention to this team.  But he is averaging over 5 fouls a game. still cant stay on the court any longer then 26 minutes.  Is shooting way too low for a big man.  But he still is putting up 15 and 10 which is mightily impressive for a rookie big man.

 Jennings didn’t shoot well overall but he shot remarkably well from 3.

And I’m still under the impression that Jrue Holiday will be the best PG from that class because of the same reasons Rondo is the best PG, not the 2nd best, The best PG in the East.

Rondo will prevent as many points during the course of a game as Rose will score with his defense.

Holiday will eventually do the same thing.  He will develop into an all world defender in a Gary Payton mold just unfortunatly for me without the trash talk.  Gary Payton was the man because he would taunt you the whole way up the court bobbing his head talking sh!t then steal the ball off you right after half court.

But BaskatBalAllen I’m not going to take any points off because you provided good reasons for your choices however I think you have a bad lists.  Anthony Randolph is extremely overrated.

Jennings is neither here nor there he did some very impressive things last year and brought that Bucks franchise from the basement of the NBA to one of the more exciting franchises in the league because of him.  And Jennings got the perfect personality to lead a franchise.  For them reasons I do not think he is overrated yet.

Michael Beasley gets too much hate to be overrated.  The Heat basically gave him away and you still have doubters.  I think you are partly right about what you said but Beasley does play with passion.  He did at Kansas State and kinda lost it on the Heat.  But B-Easy looks like he got his passion back and he could be very dangerous this year.

For the Sixers sake I hope Cousins is overrated.  I wanted him over Turner in the worse way because he got the personality that Philly needs to bring basketball back to the city.  Right now in Philly nobody cares at all about the Sixers.  We open out season against the Heat and I still can’t find anybody that wants to go to the game with me.  With The Eagles and Phillies taking all the hype in this city and the Flyers 2 years removed from a Stanley Cup appearance The Sixers get no love.  Cousins was the type of personality that would of commanded attention to this team.  But he is averaging over 5 fouls a game. still cant stay on the court any longer then 26 minutes.  Is shooting way too low for a big man.  But he still is putting up 15 and 10 which is mightily impressive for a rookie big man.

I think Hedo Turkoglu is overrated. He’s gotten a lot of hype since helping the Magic to the NBA Finals but since hasn’t nearly been good as that contract of his would make you think

I think Hedo Turkoglu is overrated. He’s gotten a lot of hype since helping the Magic to the NBA Finals but since hasn’t nearly been good as that contract of his would make you think

 Hedo is overrated 

He always had the skill then out of nowhere decided to put it all together and become legendary in Orlando only to go to Toronto and become infamous.

And what the hell happen to to him over there in Turkey is coaches seemed disgusted by him.

 Hedo is overrated 

He always had the skill then out of nowhere decided to put it all together and become legendary in Orlando only to go to Toronto and become infamous.

And what the hell happen to to him over there in Turkey is coaches seemed disgusted by him.

Hedo is just the definiton of a loser. He easily had the potential to be a 20-7-5 guy in toronto, with a lot of attention being paid to chris bosh. BUT he didnt , and thats why hes an overrated loser.

Hedo is just the definiton of a loser. He easily had the potential to be a 20-7-5 guy in toronto, with a lot of attention being paid to chris bosh. BUT he didnt , and thats why hes an overrated loser.

You always have to say from which perspective a player is overrated. Is he overrated because fans and critiques say that he is a great player/all-star whatever or is he overrated because his team thinks that he is a beast and overpays him.

For instance:

Is Joe Johnson a franchise player, an All-Star and one of the best swingman in the east?

I think so.

Is Joe Johnson a superstar who deserves a superstar paycheck?

Not at all.

You always have to say from which perspective a player is overrated. Is he overrated because fans and critiques say that he is a great player/all-star whatever or is he overrated because his team thinks that he is a beast and overpays him.

For instance:

Is Joe Johnson a franchise player, an All-Star and one of the best swingman in the east?

I think so.

Is Joe Johnson a superstar who deserves a superstar paycheck?

Not at all.

why do you think joe johnson doesnt deserve a superstar paycheck, i agree but i wanna hear your part

why do you think joe johnson doesnt deserve a superstar paycheck, i agree but i wanna hear your part

what choice really did the hawks have but not too pay him he is their best player and if u let him leave you are much worse with out him now n yea imo b jennnings is a little over rated as for the most over rater player rite now id have to say anthony randolph he gets alot of love and for what reason i have no idea he seems to me to be nothing more then a very athletich player wiht all the potential but no heart and desire to full fill it

what choice really did the hawks have but not too pay him he is their best player and if u let him leave you are much worse with out him now n yea imo b jennnings is a little over rated as for the most over rater player rite now id have to say anthony randolph he gets alot of love and for what reason i have no idea he seems to me to be nothing more then a very athletich player wiht all the potential but no heart and desire to full fill it

The thing that frustrates me about Jennings is that he thinks he’s a lot better right now than he actually is. He was a rookie last season and was saying that shoe deals were the reason he was kept off the US WC team. The East had a down year and the Bucks’ success went to his head. Every team in the East has gotten better more or less, there is good competition for those playoff spots; if Jennings can lead the Bucks to a 6th seed this year I’ll give him kudos.

SLAMonline’s top 50 writeup about Granger summed it up pretty well; yes he’s not very committed on D and has other weaknesses, but he has had to do literally everything for the Pacers for the past few years, it can take its toll. The real test will come this season where they have a worthy PG and young talent around him. This is the time for leadership, I’m looking forward to it.

Also, co-sign Indianabasketball about him being FAR from the best PG in the East. Can’t believe that dude wrote that…

The thing that frustrates me about Jennings is that he thinks he’s a lot better right now than he actually is. He was a rookie last season and was saying that shoe deals were the reason he was kept off the US WC team. The East had a down year and the Bucks’ success went to his head. Every team in the East has gotten better more or less, there is good competition for those playoff spots; if Jennings can lead the Bucks to a 6th seed this year I’ll give him kudos.

SLAMonline’s top 50 writeup about Granger summed it up pretty well; yes he’s not very committed on D and has other weaknesses, but he has had to do literally everything for the Pacers for the past few years, it can take its toll. The real test will come this season where they have a worthy PG and young talent around him. This is the time for leadership, I’m looking forward to it.

Also, co-sign Indianabasketball about him being FAR from the best PG in the East. Can’t believe that dude wrote that…

 I think Antoine Walker is one of the most overrated players in the past 15-20 years.  He put up 20 + ppg and had decent rebounding numbers so he was always put up with the top guys in the leauge, but he was a chucker and often hurt his team by jacking shots rather than look for teammates and what not.  I hated watching him play and I think his career FG % was maybe 41% and for a sf/pf is downright awful.

 I think Antoine Walker is one of the most overrated players in the past 15-20 years.  He put up 20 + ppg and had decent rebounding numbers so he was always put up with the top guys in the leauge, but he was a chucker and often hurt his team by jacking shots rather than look for teammates and what not.  I hated watching him play and I think his career FG % was maybe 41% and for a sf/pf is downright awful.

 I have high hopes for Jennings, I think people are overblowing the significance of his shooting woes last year. Lebron shot .417 in his rookie year, and Jennings shot .371 last year. I’m not saying their games are at all similar, or that Jennings will ever shoot as efficiently as Lebron did last year, my point is only that rookies often shoot poorly from the field and then improve as their career goes on. In fact, I am very encouraged by his 3 point shooting, which was very good on a high number of attempts. I doubt Jenning will ever be particularly efficient, but I can seem him shooting .420-.440 regularly in his career. 

I am so high on him because of his potential for a complete offensive game. He has shown the ability to score in bunches, and bomb from three, as well as to make beautiful passes. He has outstanding court vision, which is why I think he has the potential to be better than Rose. Will he ever reach it? Who knows

 I have high hopes for Jennings, I think people are overblowing the significance of his shooting woes last year. Lebron shot .417 in his rookie year, and Jennings shot .371 last year. I’m not saying their games are at all similar, or that Jennings will ever shoot as efficiently as Lebron did last year, my point is only that rookies often shoot poorly from the field and then improve as their career goes on. In fact, I am very encouraged by his 3 point shooting, which was very good on a high number of attempts. I doubt Jenning will ever be particularly efficient, but I can seem him shooting .420-.440 regularly in his career. 

I am so high on him because of his potential for a complete offensive game. He has shown the ability to score in bunches, and bomb from three, as well as to make beautiful passes. He has outstanding court vision, which is why I think he has the potential to be better than Rose. Will he ever reach it? Who knows

Does it have to be an NBA player? If not i would have to say Ivan Chiriaev

http://communities.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/blogs/ilovelamp/archive/2009/10/27/meet-13-year-old-canadian-basketball-star-andrew-wiggins-hopefully-he-s-not-the-next-ivan-chiriaev.aspx

Does it have to be an NBA player? If not i would have to say Ivan Chiriaev

http://communities.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/blogs/ilovelamp/archive/2009/10/27/meet-13-year-old-canadian-basketball-star-andrew-wiggins-hopefully-he-s-not-the-next-ivan-chiriaev.aspx

Gallinari…Randolph and Timofeyyyyyyyyyyy Mosgovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Gallinari…Randolph and Timofeyyyyyyyyyyy Mosgovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Gallos overrated by a longshot, at least by knicks fans, i think Brandon Jennings is a little overrated, i saw him live a couple times and he impressed me, but hes too inconsistant.

Gallos overrated by a longshot, at least by knicks fans, i think Brandon Jennings is a little overrated, i saw him live a couple times and he impressed me, but hes too inconsistant.

how’s is that overrated…they don’t want him taking all the shots and averaging 20 plus…not with Bogut and company..The Bucks have too many players for Jennings to average the points he needs to shut people up…If he was a jacker he’d have 20 ppg/7 ass season…

how’s is that overrated…they don’t want him taking all the shots and averaging 20 plus…not with Bogut and company..The Bucks have too many players for Jennings to average the points he needs to shut people up…If he was a jacker he’d have 20 ppg/7 ass season…

I think 15 and 10 is overrated. His ppg is cool but 10 apg is a bit much. I think d.will and chris paul didn’t even avg that much. I see his numbers more like 15-16 to 7-8 and I think that’s totally fine. He is overrated if people say that he played better than Curry and Tyreke just because of his one super game.

For Joe Johnson. I kinda understand the Hawks choice for the reasons you guys mentioned. I still don’t think that he deserves that kinda paycheck. Especially after that rather average reg. season for him (I hoped he could get back to 23+  5+ 5+or something) and his horrible playoff performance. Maybe it sounds stupid kinda stupid but I were in his position I would feel horrible to take so much money. Not only because of the horrible playoff performance, but also because it’s now so obvious to everyone that he is just playing for the money. Other real superstars gave their franchsies some room to operate and to get a better team, he took the maximum after the worst post-season of his career getting crushed in the 2nd round.

I think 15 and 10 is overrated. His ppg is cool but 10 apg is a bit much. I think d.will and chris paul didn’t even avg that much. I see his numbers more like 15-16 to 7-8 and I think that’s totally fine. He is overrated if people say that he played better than Curry and Tyreke just because of his one super game.

For Joe Johnson. I kinda understand the Hawks choice for the reasons you guys mentioned. I still don’t think that he deserves that kinda paycheck. Especially after that rather average reg. season for him (I hoped he could get back to 23+  5+ 5+or something) and his horrible playoff performance. Maybe it sounds stupid kinda stupid but I were in his position I would feel horrible to take so much money. Not only because of the horrible playoff performance, but also because it’s now so obvious to everyone that he is just playing for the money. Other real superstars gave their franchsies some room to operate and to get a better team, he took the maximum after the worst post-season of his career getting crushed in the 2nd round.

I’m not bad mouthing Granger. He is a great fit for the Pacers. He has great value to Indy, but if you put Granger on a different team he will not have the same effect because he is only a 2nd option on your team. Gay on the other is a fringe first option. He can be your first option but not a great 1st option. Granger is a horrible 1st option. The only reason why he works that way for the Pacers is because he is the only option. If he was not the only option he would be okay, and therefore he is just a second option. He is overrated because keep thinking Granger is a first option but he is not.

I’m not bad mouthing Granger. He is a great fit for the Pacers. He has great value to Indy, but if you put Granger on a different team he will not have the same effect because he is only a 2nd option on your team. Gay on the other is a fringe first option. He can be your first option but not a great 1st option. Granger is a horrible 1st option. The only reason why he works that way for the Pacers is because he is the only option. If he was not the only option he would be okay, and therefore he is just a second option. He is overrated because keep thinking Granger is a first option but he is not.

Jennings isn’t really close to Iverson only thing they have in common is the ability to get to the rim.

A lot of PG’s have that quality, Jennings was overrated after his 1st month and esp. that 55 pt game.

Many guys on this site had him being a Hall of Famer already after that hot start.  He’s closer to what Kenny Anderson was in the 90’s.  Jennings had a bad year shooting but did well the last month and in the playoffs.  Should improve this year, no players shoots well there rookie year.  The asts should increase with the addition of Maggette too.

Jennings isn’t really close to Iverson only thing they have in common is the ability to get to the rim.

A lot of PG’s have that quality, Jennings was overrated after his 1st month and esp. that 55 pt game.

Many guys on this site had him being a Hall of Famer already after that hot start.  He’s closer to what Kenny Anderson was in the 90’s.  Jennings had a bad year shooting but did well the last month and in the playoffs.  Should improve this year, no players shoots well there rookie year.  The asts should increase with the addition of Maggette too.

Miami Heat.

Miami Heat.

Danny Granger is overrated.  I can put up those numbers on a roster like Indiana’s.

Danny Granger is overrated.  I can put up those numbers on a roster like Indiana’s.

I think you are overrating yourself…

Gay might have more "superstar" qualities than Granger, but Granger is a better all around player. He can play 3 or a hybrid 4, better scorer, and he isn’t a ball stopper like Gay. If you pick up Gay, it will be hard to develop other perimeter players because Gay thrives as the only perimeter option.

I think you are overrating yourself…

Gay might have more "superstar" qualities than Granger, but Granger is a better all around player. He can play 3 or a hybrid 4, better scorer, and he isn’t a ball stopper like Gay. If you pick up Gay, it will be hard to develop other perimeter players because Gay thrives as the only perimeter option.

kobe is overrated… isnt half the player he used to be and people think hes still the best in the league… the best player is durant..

kobe is overrated… isnt half the player he used to be and people think hes still the best in the league… the best player is durant..

Paul Pierce, people comparing him to kobe and lebron but the main reason the celtics were good was because of Garnett. Im not saying he’s not a good player but he’s not top 5 either.  Overrated. 

Paul Pierce, people comparing him to kobe and lebron but the main reason the celtics were good was because of Garnett. Im not saying he’s not a good player but he’s not top 5 either.  Overrated. 

 paul pierce- he is a solid player but when i watch the games it seems like hes the 4th best player on his team yet people say hes a top 10 player hell no all he does is draw fouls and whine like a girl

 paul pierce- he is a solid player but when i watch the games it seems like hes the 4th best player on his team yet people say hes a top 10 player hell no all he does is draw fouls and whine like a girl

Agreed^^

Paul Pierce is so overrated, and a whiny little bitch.

Agreed^^

Paul Pierce is so overrated, and a whiny little bitch.

 Does anyone really think he is a top 10 player though?  5 years ago probably, but until he won a title he wasn’t considered a Hall of Famer.  I’d say Pierce is a top 15-20 player at this point in his career, which I don’t think is overrated for him.  If people still think he is a top 10 player then I’ll give you he is overrated, but I don’t know anyone does, with the exception of a bone head announcer who says something like that after he caught fire in a game in the playoffs or something.

 Does anyone really think he is a top 10 player though?  5 years ago probably, but until he won a title he wasn’t considered a Hall of Famer.  I’d say Pierce is a top 15-20 player at this point in his career, which I don’t think is overrated for him.  If people still think he is a top 10 player then I’ll give you he is overrated, but I don’t know anyone does, with the exception of a bone head announcer who says something like that after he caught fire in a game in the playoffs or something.

the ball to Pierce late in the game.

the ball to Pierce late in the game.

 i still hear analysts say hes top-10 but i would say hes top 20 maybe id take him 4th off his own team 

 i still hear analysts say hes top-10 but i would say hes top 20 maybe id take him 4th off his own team 

 Who’d you rate over him besides Rondo?  I feel Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen have lost more of a step than Paul.  Paul Pierce was never very athletic in the first place as compared to a guy like KG who was.  I think the lack of explosiveness really has effected Garnett as an offensive player.  He can’t really take guys to the hoop anymore create space facing the goal like he used to.  He is still a very good defender, but I’d still rank Pierce ahead of KG.  Ray Allen is a guy who could probably play til he’s 40 years old, he’s still in amazing shape, but he isn’t the take over player he used to be.  He can still catch fire, but the thing I feel he’s lost as he has gotten older is offensive consistancy.  Pierce is still a pretty consistant scorer( partially because he draws fouls and why many people hate him), but its kind of an old man trick he’s perfect in order to still stay relevant.  I personally think he’s #2 on the Celts, but again if people still consider him a top 10 player than I agree he’s overrated.

 Who’d you rate over him besides Rondo?  I feel Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen have lost more of a step than Paul.  Paul Pierce was never very athletic in the first place as compared to a guy like KG who was.  I think the lack of explosiveness really has effected Garnett as an offensive player.  He can’t really take guys to the hoop anymore create space facing the goal like he used to.  He is still a very good defender, but I’d still rank Pierce ahead of KG.  Ray Allen is a guy who could probably play til he’s 40 years old, he’s still in amazing shape, but he isn’t the take over player he used to be.  He can still catch fire, but the thing I feel he’s lost as he has gotten older is offensive consistancy.  Pierce is still a pretty consistant scorer( partially because he draws fouls and why many people hate him), but its kind of an old man trick he’s perfect in order to still stay relevant.  I personally think he’s #2 on the Celts, but again if people still consider him a top 10 player than I agree he’s overrated.

Lebron

Lebron

Pierce was never that fast to begin with, but I feel the big contract extension will hurt the Celtics in Rondo’s prime, because I think Pierce is only a few seasons away from not being able to create his own shot at all.

Pierce was never that fast to begin with, but I feel the big contract extension will hurt the Celtics in Rondo’s prime, because I think Pierce is only a few seasons away from not being able to create his own shot at all.

Most overrated player EVER?

Most overrated player EVER?

Yeah, the topic was stupid to begin with. The most overrated player right now would be easier to discuss. Hard to rank guys: who was more overrated?

Yeah, the topic was stupid to begin with. The most overrated player right now would be easier to discuss. Hard to rank guys: who was more overrated?