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  • #22163
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    IndianaBasketball
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    As I’m sitting here watching Rajon Rondo make his life miserable, I’m wondering… What are the chances that he doesn’t become the player people think he will? What are the chances that he becomes a bust?

    I know we’ve only seen him play the summer league and one and a half pre-season games, BUT… He looks VERY average. His physical tools are very average.

    – He struggles finishing around the rim due to a lack of length and athleticism.

    – He’s struggling getting by defenders off of the dribble because of his lack of speed and quickness. He has to work very hard it seems just to get by people. Rondo picked his pocket easily at the end of the half. He even struggles getting free using screens.

    – He struggles playing off of the ball and isn’t a very good shooter. He’s not quite a point guard… Not quite a two… Not strong enough to be a three. It almost looks like he doesn’t have a for sure position.

    – He looks to be pressing/lacking confidence and though he’s been quick to encourage his teammates, his body language still isn’t that great.

    I know he’s going to adjust to the NBA, etc, but I’m starting to get this feeling he isn’t going to become the player people think he will be. The 76ers are going to regret not picking DeMarcus Cousins big time.

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  • #409982
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    He’s a 2nd overall pick.. Tell me the last time a 2nd overall pick become a star.

    2000: Stromile Swift

    2001: Tyson Chandler

    2002: Jay Williams

    2003: Darko Milicic

    2004: Emeka Okafor

    2005: Marvin Williams

    2006: LaMarcus Aldridge

    2007: Kevin Durant (The Exception)

    2008: Michael Beasley

    2009: Hasheem Thabeet

     

    That’s only 1 out of the last 10 2nd overall picks that became stars. 10%

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  • #409985
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    SubZero
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    I always thought Turner would be a bust. If they would’ve picked Cousins, their lineup would’ve looked like this:

    Holiday-Iggy-Thad-Brand-Cousins

    I know Turner was the "clear cut" 2nd pick, but now they have to deal with the logjam that they have with Turner, Iggy and Thad. Hopefully when they trade Iggy, they can get something valuable for him

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  • #409989
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    They have to trade iggy cuz i def know that they wont trade Holiday…i havent seen philly play but im sure the lack of shooters is making it hard to drive towards the basket…but im sure he will adjust..he just seems to much of a smart player not to get it…dude is going to have to reinvent himself play alot of the ball in the nba so he will have an adjustment period..the quest is how long?

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  • #409995
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    I usually don’t criticize rookies too hard after summer league and the pre-season, but Turner just looks so… average.

    He’ll get better and have better games, but I have my doubts about his potential due to his average physical tools. I mean, I’m watching him dribble and it doesn’t look like he goes anywhere. The Celtics have Luke Harangody defending him right now.

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  • #410003
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Hahaha Luke Harangody is guarding him! HAHAHAHAHA That’s hilarious yet disrespectful towards Evan Turner to some degree.

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  • #410008
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    Malik-Universal
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    lamarcus aldridge is still a very good player for a 2nd pick overall

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  • #410019
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    MagikKnick
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    I once labelled Evan Turner as "bust-proof" because his game is so well-rounded, he can score, pass, hes versatile, in college there wasn’t a thing he couldnt do..

    But like Tezo, i think he’ll eventually come around, may take a longer while to adjust for him, but he’ll come around, also…I do have my doubts, guess we’ll just have to wait and see..

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  • #410032
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Oh, no I’m not calling all 2nd overall picks a bust, I’m saying 2nd overall picks usually don’t become stars for their team, they become good role players though.

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  • #410033
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    Yeah,i kept telling people the 76’ers should draft Cousins..But thats over now..Turner will struggle his rookie year..He doesnt have great quickness,he’s an average athlete and he’s an average shooter …But what shows me that he’s still a special player is that even though he’s not scoring, he’s doing other things like getting to the free throw line and making plays for his teammates…

    I still think he can be a very productive player in the league.But so many people over hyped him with the Pippen & Grant Hill comparisons…

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  • #410035
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    I think Turner will do just fine as a rookie. My projected stats for him are 12 ppg, 4 rpg, and around 3 apg. He will have his struggles just like every rookie will in some ways, but he will put up solid numbers and play a significant role as a rookie for us. I can’t say I’m ready to give up on him or ask questions about whether he’ll be this or that, especially long-term, but he’ll do fine and be brought along at a nice pace. I will say that I want Cousins now, because he looks like he has All-Star potential that he could reach very soon, but hindsight is 50/50. Expect Turner to play well and be one of the top rookies in the NBA this season.

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  • #410199
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    Turner will be a bust book it. He did not look comfortabe with the ball out of his hands and his struggled to find his own shot off the dribble as well his lack of NBA athletcism was highly evident. He will be a solid role player but nothing possibly better then that and Babbit played in a weak conference and put up gaudy numbers agaisnt inferior competition he plays terrible defense and his shot in SL looked quite streaky he does not have a complete NBA skill set. If you think Babbitt will get playing time over Batum a young strong wing and Matthews thats crazy. Not to mention that Babbit is a tweener as he isnt big or strong enough to guard 4’s but doesnt have the skill set or athleticism or defense to play 3’s

    I said this about 3 weeks ago and everyone said i was jumping to conclusions, seems like  I was right then

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  • #410204
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    ilike.panochas
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    Turner will not be a bust, but I also don’t think he will live up to expectations.  Everyone expects a 2nd pick overall to be a Superstar, but I don’t see it, I think his going to be a career 15ppg 5apg 6rpg.  Its not superstar numbers, but I also wouldn’t call it a "bust" if he puts up these numbers.

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  • #410206
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    Platypus
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    No offense but its pre season in his rookie year, let him get use to the Nba and let him play a game that actually counts

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  • #410224
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    Mkadoza
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     ":I said this about 3 weeks ago and everyone said i was jumping to conclusions, seems like I was right then"

    Because a week into preseason is the perfect time to evaluate rookies careers. /facepalm I guess Holiday is going to average 7 turnovers too. 

    I seriously can’y believe I hear people gloating about a rookie having a poor showing a game after he got to the line 12 times and collected 8 rebounds. When turner figures out how to use the skills he already has to get his shot open he will be very good. he just doesnt have blow by speed or elite athleticism to rely on.

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  • #410226
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    Mr. 19134
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    Everybody was saying the same things about Steph Curry last year after he put up 9 points a game and shot like 35% from the field in a shoot happy offense.  The same things were said as to why Curry wont suceed he dont have NBA athleticism, his dribble game is weak, and yadi yadi yada.

    Then everybody changed their tune once he got use to the speed of the NBA game.

    I don’t know why people keep saying Turner don’t have NBA athleticism, check his combine scores, they’re above average for a starting shooting guard.  He had a great lane agility score which is the best test of lateral movement.  Higher then a lot of people like OJ Mayo, Brandon Roy.  In Fact Turner’s combine scores were better then Roys except for his vertical but Turner got a slightly longer reach then Roy too.  

    Turner is too smart, and too much of a great worker and student of the game not to find his stride.  I’m not saying he will be a star but I wouldn’t rule it out yet.  I truly believe Turner can develop into a 20, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists guy.

    Turner really knows how to get to the foul line and his shot will eventually come around.  He did shoot over 50% in college so he knows how to get buckets efficiently.

    Doug Collins got him in the wrong situation, he has him playing back up PG which is borderline asinine.  

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  • #410322
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    I dont see a bust because he does too many things well. I wouldn’t call Shane Battier a bust even though he was the 6th pick in the draft. I never saw him being a star in the league because he doesn’t have the physical gifts to be the ball-dominant, all encompassing guy he was in college at the pro level but I do think he’ll be very good in time. Remember Rondo is a hell of a pick pocket as well.

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