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- Posted on: Tue, 10/05/2010 - 4:03pm #22130

JoeWolf1Evan Turner has had a big cloud of mystery around him since struggling in summer league. His line tonight was 12 pts 7 rbs and 1 assist and 1 TO going 1-6 from the feild but getting to the line 12 times and converting 10 of them. I was curious if any of you saw the game and what you thought of his performance from what I understand was the backup point guard.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/05/2010 - 6:34pm #409737

RUDEBOY_ParticipantTurner is going to be fine..The 76’ers are in no hurry ..Collins wants to bring him along slowly..
He seems overwhelmed being in the pro setting…Once he gets use to the speed of the game,he’ll be fine..
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/05/2010 - 7:03pm #409755

Mr. 19134ParticipantEverytime I talk about Evan Turner, my favorite basketball player from my favorite college, I will always consider Demarcus Cousins too. Not only did the Sixers not need Turner’s skill set because of Holiday mostly who does the same things Turner does. Pound the ball untill the shot clock runs down then get into the lane and either finish or find an open teammate.
But Cousins was the better fit and I think will be the better play. Well Cousins may already be the better player and he is a center. How can you pass on that type of talent at the Center position.
But anyways Turner played a good game. He wasn’t spectacular but not too much about his game is anyway. And although he only went 1-6 from the field his ability to free himself up for a clean shot appears to have translated immediatly to the NBA. He got a very smooth dribble which allowed him to get to the lane at will today. And that advice he recieved from Reggie Millers appears to have paid off as Turner only played 25 minutes but managed to get 12 foul shots and 7 rebounds. Another important thing is he only had 1 turnover despite have the ball in his hands most of the time trying to be the playmaker for the second unit.
Hopefully he builds upon this game and get encouragement from all the fouls that went him way to continue to be aggressive and drive to the lane.
Also he could of had a higher assists number but him teammates missed a ton of open shots. I don’t kno what Collins has them working on in practice but it isn’t shooting. Because the whole team shot terrible except Elton.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/06/2010 - 2:03am #409779
rtbtParticipantIt’s funny Joe, I was going to start a new topic on Evan Turner but then I saw your post. Here are my observations.
- Doug Collins does not want to put pressure on a rookie so he will bring him along slowly.
- Even on an off night when his shot wasn’t going in, he made it to the foul line for 12 attempts. That’s a fantastic sign that other guards will have a very difficult time checking such a tall opponent.
- And I’m big on rebounding, he had 7 boards in only 26 minutes.
I think the Philly fans can sit back, feel good about the Evan Turner selection, and know that he’s in good hands with Doug Collins.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/06/2010 - 8:57am #409859

Mr. 19134ParticipantI hope your right.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/06/2010 - 11:30am #409916
rtbtParticipantDoug Collins is one of the elite coaches in the NBA. He understand what it’s like to be the second choice in the entire draft and realizes he doesn’t want to put added pressure on his rookie. I think most knowledgable basketball people agree that Evan Turner will eventually become a great all around player. However, there’s no rush, give him a couple of years. Besides, he isn’t the kind of guy who will carry a team.
As I mentiioned above, I expect Turner to have a very good rookie season, but not a spectacular one. If you want spectacular, keep an eye on both John Wall and Blake Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/06/2010 - 11:48am #409921

Mr. 19134ParticipantDid you take a point from me for hoping you were right?
Anyways Doug Collins is one of the reasons I’m very optimistic for Turner because he knows what to do with multi faceted wings. Collins gave the Bulls the Blueprint on how to use Pippen and Jordan together, then in Detroit he put Grant Hill in a very successful situation.
Then Collins did it again in Washington with Jordan and Rip at first, then Jordan and Stackhouse.
With Collins prior experience at being able to maximize the potential of his wings I think Turner and Iggy will play very well together.
Not only that I am also convinced that Thad Young is best suited at PF because of an article I read on ESPN mentioned that Synergy has Youngs efficiency, scoring, and rebounding going up dramatically when he plays PF. Young is a mismatch at the PF and is actually far from a liability on defense. He got the strength and length to match up physically with most PF’s and on offense he excels when he gets a chance to his his array of hook shots in the post.
The only thing that I am not liking thus far is Collins using Turner as a back up PG right now. I understand he is a rookie and they want to take him along slowly but from my memory wasn’t Turner the most "NBA Ready" prospect in that draft? He is 21 years old and incredibly resilient person he will do fine.
He should be the starting 2 guard from day one because you did not pass up a franchise center for a back up PG with the 2nd pick. Him Holiday and Iggy should develop that chemistry in the starting lineup from day one. They will only grow together and get better.
And I would love for Jrue to run off the ball more while Turner initiates the offense. There is no reason the offense can’t run through both of them.
And the last thing that is bothering me is Jrue Holiday is starting to remind of Andre Miller by how ball dominant he is and that is a terrible thing. I hate PG’s who hold the ball too long. Holiday is doing that too often just pounding the ball till towards the end of the shot clock then getting into the lane. he can get into the lane anytime he wants so he should do it earlier in the shot clock instead of at the end of it.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/06/2010 - 12:08pm #409925
rtbtParticipantMr. 19134 asked, "Did you take a point from me for hoping you were right?"
Were you addressing that question to me or someone else? I rarely pay any attention to points. The only time I use them is when somebody makes an excellent point or says something incredibly idiotic or ignorant.
If you were asking me, the answer to your question is no. I had no idea anyone gave or took away points from you or anyone else.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/06/2010 - 9:12pm #410050

Mr. 19134Participantlol no i only view points as a way of people making sense or a concerted effort to explain something, i just always find it strange when people act like mules and take away points when theyre not even part of the discussion or have nothing to say. Or if somebody if just asking a question that doesn’t make any sense.
But was I assumed from it is that somebody hopes your wrong and really doesn’t like Evan Turner.
This Sixer team is looking bad and its not just Turner nobody can hit a jump shot. The team shot 28% as a whole last night. I dont know what Collins is working on in practice but I don’t think its shooting.
It’s getting to the point where you just have to go with your instincts and realize why you took this guy with the second pick and just throw him in the fire.
I mean he was supposed to be the most NBA ready prospect in the draft right? So why are we suppose to be taking it slow with him, he’ll get it. Alot of players start off slow but as long as theyre giving the minutes and a chance to prove themselves they do. Look at Yao Ming if you judged his first month of basketball you’d be ready to throw him out the league.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/07/2010 - 2:54am #410072
rtbtParticipantMr. 19134 asked, " he was supposed to be the most NBA ready prospect in the draft right? So why are we suppose to be taking it slow with him, he’ll get it."
Taking it slow has different meaning to everybody. From my perspective, I’ll explain how I think it applies to Evan Turner.
Yes, he was and is the most NBA ready player in the draft. However, making the jump from college to the NBA is a major change in culture for these young men. And let’s not forget they are extremely young. Are you old enough to remember your first job out of college? It’s a big time adjustment so there’s no need to place added pressure on a rookie by making him the man.
Of course he’s going to play every night and be a significant factor, but he will not become the team leader in his rookie season. "Taking it slow" means allowing him to gradually adjust to life in the NBA without undue pressure to become a star immediately. In essence, let him take his time learning how to be a professional basketball player before putting too much on his plate.
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