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  • #21345
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    valentine
  • #395198
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    DNYCE

    Plus the Lakers 2011 1st round pick.

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  • #395213
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    DNYCE

    Plus the Lakers 2011 1st round pick.

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  • #395200
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    DNYCE

    Lakers starting 5(3peat)
    Arenas/Fisher/Blake
    Kobe/Brown/Blake
    Artest/Barnes/Ebanks/Walton
    Odom/Caracter/Barnes/McGee
    Gasol/McGee/Ratliff

    Wizards starting 5
    Wall
    Hinrich
    Howard
    Blatche
    Bynum

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  • #395215
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    DNYCE

    Lakers starting 5(3peat)
    Arenas/Fisher/Blake
    Kobe/Brown/Blake
    Artest/Barnes/Ebanks/Walton
    Odom/Caracter/Barnes/McGee
    Gasol/McGee/Ratliff

    Wizards starting 5
    Wall
    Hinrich
    Howard
    Blatche
    Bynum

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  • #395202
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    butidonthavemoney

    If I’m the Wizards, I would actually consider this.

    But I don’t think they want to move McGee, and I don’t think the Lakers want Arenas.

    Interesting thought though. Good work.

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  • #395217
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    If I’m the Wizards, I would actually consider this.

    But I don’t think they want to move McGee, and I don’t think the Lakers want Arenas.

    Interesting thought though. Good work.

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  • #395206
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    sammybuckeye13
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    Has a trade idea of any kind not involving a player on the block ever gotten positive points?

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  • #395221
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    sammybuckeye13
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    Has a trade idea of any kind not involving a player on the block ever gotten positive points?

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  • #395212
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    NYK2010
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    No Bynum means no 3 peat.
    Mcghee, Caracter, Ratliff won’t get it done off the bench.
    Also Odom is overrated on offense esp. on the perimeter.

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  • #395227
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    NYK2010
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    No Bynum means no 3 peat.
    Mcghee, Caracter, Ratliff won’t get it done off the bench.
    Also Odom is overrated on offense esp. on the perimeter.

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  • #395216
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    DNYCE

    -No Bynum no 3 peat?? LMAO,

    -2008- Lakers Finals vs Celtics lose(Bynum abscent during the entire playoffs, also no Ariza)

    -2009- Lakers Finals vs Magic win(Limited Bynum, Gasol outplayed Dwight Howard, we had Ariza back)

    -2010- Lakers Finals vs Celtics win(Bynum limited and he only had one good game in the entire series, we had Artest this time around)

    -Basically your an idiot if you really think that Bynum is the x factor for the Lakers to win championships.

    -Odom doesn’t need to be that big of an offensive threat when you have Kobe, Gasol, and a third star.

    – Caracter is a huge sleeper.

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  • #395231
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    DNYCE

    -No Bynum no 3 peat?? LMAO,

    -2008- Lakers Finals vs Celtics lose(Bynum abscent during the entire playoffs, also no Ariza)

    -2009- Lakers Finals vs Magic win(Limited Bynum, Gasol outplayed Dwight Howard, we had Ariza back)

    -2010- Lakers Finals vs Celtics win(Bynum limited and he only had one good game in the entire series, we had Artest this time around)

    -Basically your an idiot if you really think that Bynum is the x factor for the Lakers to win championships.

    -Odom doesn’t need to be that big of an offensive threat when you have Kobe, Gasol, and a third star.

    – Caracter is a huge sleeper.

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  • #395242
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    sheltwon3
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    This trade is not as bad as it looks because Arenas and Kobe on the same team would be crazy. Also Mcgee is better than people give credit. In 2 more years he may be a healthy Bynum type but more athletic than big and powerful.

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  • #395257
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    sheltwon3
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    This trade is not as bad as it looks because Arenas and Kobe on the same team would be crazy. Also Mcgee is better than people give credit. In 2 more years he may be a healthy Bynum type but more athletic than big and powerful.

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  • #395270
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    ghettosermon
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    Without even equating Arenas into this trade on a purely big man comparison I feel like it would be the wrong fit for both Bynum and Mcgee. I Feel like Bynum is a beast in a half court set where you get him touches. With is knee problems I honestly don’t think it’s a great fit for him to have to run up and down the court with the young gun Wizards. Similarly it seems like Mcgee has developed a rapport with John Wall. Being able to run up and down with Wall and utilize his freakish athleticism maximizes his ability even while his skills develop. I feel like if Mcgee was on a half court team like the Lakers with lots of Kobe Iso’s and Gasol touches, Mcgee’s lack of strength and lack of fundamental post skills would be magnified. I just think both of these bigs are in the perfect situations as long as Bynum can finally accept that Pau is the #1 big on the team. I think it reflects positively in the locker room when you stay loyal to draft picks and I think waiting it out on Mcgee’s rookie contract is the right move to make. Look what happened when they stuck with Blatche even through the rough patches, they ended up signing him to a modest 5 year/15 mil contract. Pretty nice to get a big of his quality long term for only 3 mil a year.

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  • #395254
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    Without even equating Arenas into this trade on a purely big man comparison I feel like it would be the wrong fit for both Bynum and Mcgee. I Feel like Bynum is a beast in a half court set where you get him touches. With is knee problems I honestly don’t think it’s a great fit for him to have to run up and down the court with the young gun Wizards. Similarly it seems like Mcgee has developed a rapport with John Wall. Being able to run up and down with Wall and utilize his freakish athleticism maximizes his ability even while his skills develop. I feel like if Mcgee was on a half court team like the Lakers with lots of Kobe Iso’s and Gasol touches, Mcgee’s lack of strength and lack of fundamental post skills would be magnified. I just think both of these bigs are in the perfect situations as long as Bynum can finally accept that Pau is the #1 big on the team. I think it reflects positively in the locker room when you stay loyal to draft picks and I think waiting it out on Mcgee’s rookie contract is the right move to make. Look what happened when they stuck with Blatche even through the rough patches, they ended up signing him to a modest 5 year/15 mil contract. Pretty nice to get a big of his quality long term for only 3 mil a year.

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  • #395271
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    WizardofOz
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    I think this is a bad deal for both teams, even though this trade idea isn’t as crazy as some of your other ones.

    I don’t think the Lakers want to move Bynum. He still hasn’t reached his peak and was a vital part to why the Lakers made the finals last season. They don’t want to give him up for a very unproven center that is more war than Bynum. And I don’t know how Gil and Kobe would gel with each other.

    The Wizards might move McGee for Bynum, but I’m not sure. Even though McGee is kind of raw, Flip has a lot of confidence in him. And the Wizards certainly don’t want to give up Gil for Sasha Vujacic. Gil is still a superstar when healthy. And the Wizards management has said countless times that Gil is staying he season. I think they only give up Gil this season if they get an offer they can’t refuse. And if the Lakers include their 2011 1st-round pick, it probably won’t be high and I don’t think the Wizards would be interested in a late 1st-rounder in a fairly weak draft.

    At least you were less biased this time.

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  • #395288
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    WizardofOz
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    I think this is a bad deal for both teams, even though this trade idea isn’t as crazy as some of your other ones.

    I don’t think the Lakers want to move Bynum. He still hasn’t reached his peak and was a vital part to why the Lakers made the finals last season. They don’t want to give him up for a very unproven center that is more war than Bynum. And I don’t know how Gil and Kobe would gel with each other.

    The Wizards might move McGee for Bynum, but I’m not sure. Even though McGee is kind of raw, Flip has a lot of confidence in him. And the Wizards certainly don’t want to give up Gil for Sasha Vujacic. Gil is still a superstar when healthy. And the Wizards management has said countless times that Gil is staying he season. I think they only give up Gil this season if they get an offer they can’t refuse. And if the Lakers include their 2011 1st-round pick, it probably won’t be high and I don’t think the Wizards would be interested in a late 1st-rounder in a fairly weak draft.

    At least you were less biased this time.

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  • #395287
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    gone
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    System overload…..I actually like this trade……….System overload

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  • #395305
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    gone
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    System overload…..I actually like this trade……….System overload

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  • #395308
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    NYK2010
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    -No Bynum no 3 peat?? LMAO,
    Your clueless, they need his size against possible Perkins, Shaq, Jermaine.
    Also he’d be huge against the Heat bigs Anthony, Magloire, Howard,Big Z

    -2008- Lakers Finals vs Celtics lose(Bynum abscent during the entire playoffs, also no Ariza)
    That would’ve made no difference the Celtics would’ve beaten the Lakers anyway.
    Pierce outplayed Kobe and Lakers choked away Game 4, Celtics got sloppy the next game or else series was ova in 5.

    -2009- Lakers Finals vs Magic win(Limited Bynum, Gasol outplayed Dwight Howard, we had Ariza back)
    Really the Magic were weaker at every position except SF. Fisher hit big shots, Magic came up short down the stretch in every game except Game 3.

    -2010- Lakers Finals vs Celtics win(Bynum limited and he only had one good game in the entire series, we had Artest this time around)
    They didn’t win becaz of either they won becaz of Gasol, what series were you watching.

    -Basically your an idiot if you really think that Bynum is the x factor for the Lakers to win championships.
    Obviously your a clueless idiot and don’t realize you win with bigs. How did Kobe do without Gasol, couldn’t get out of the 1st round. How did Wade do the last 2 years? Bynum isn’t the X-factor but his size is huge. He’ll never put up big numbers for the Lakers being at best the 3rd option. His mins were limited in the playoffs becaz of injury, he should’ve had the surgery after the series with OKC they didn’t need him to sweept the Jazz.
    I used to think Gasol/Bynum together wouldn’t work but obviously it has and the Lakers aren’t going to mess with that.
    Arenas is injury prone as well himself if he goes down again where would that leave you. McGee is not in Bynum’s class don’t kid yourself. Playing well in 10 games at the end of last year and summer league is one thing but during the course of a season and playoffs is another. Also with the new CBA coming next year this would put the Lakers over the hard cap the next 4 years as well. Makes no sense money wise and how will Arenas handle being the 3rd option and in the triangle when he’s used to dominating the ball.

    -Odom doesn’t need to be that big of an offensive threat when you have Kobe, Gasol, and a third star.
    This is the only pt I agree with you on but Odom is more effective off the bench.

    – Caracter is a huge sleeper.
    Yeah key word sleeper, no guarentee he’s not a bench warmer.

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  • #395328
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    NYK2010
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    -No Bynum no 3 peat?? LMAO,
    Your clueless, they need his size against possible Perkins, Shaq, Jermaine.
    Also he’d be huge against the Heat bigs Anthony, Magloire, Howard,Big Z

    -2008- Lakers Finals vs Celtics lose(Bynum abscent during the entire playoffs, also no Ariza)
    That would’ve made no difference the Celtics would’ve beaten the Lakers anyway.
    Pierce outplayed Kobe and Lakers choked away Game 4, Celtics got sloppy the next game or else series was ova in 5.

    -2009- Lakers Finals vs Magic win(Limited Bynum, Gasol outplayed Dwight Howard, we had Ariza back)
    Really the Magic were weaker at every position except SF. Fisher hit big shots, Magic came up short down the stretch in every game except Game 3.

    -2010- Lakers Finals vs Celtics win(Bynum limited and he only had one good game in the entire series, we had Artest this time around)
    They didn’t win becaz of either they won becaz of Gasol, what series were you watching.

    -Basically your an idiot if you really think that Bynum is the x factor for the Lakers to win championships.
    Obviously your a clueless idiot and don’t realize you win with bigs. How did Kobe do without Gasol, couldn’t get out of the 1st round. How did Wade do the last 2 years? Bynum isn’t the X-factor but his size is huge. He’ll never put up big numbers for the Lakers being at best the 3rd option. His mins were limited in the playoffs becaz of injury, he should’ve had the surgery after the series with OKC they didn’t need him to sweept the Jazz.
    I used to think Gasol/Bynum together wouldn’t work but obviously it has and the Lakers aren’t going to mess with that.
    Arenas is injury prone as well himself if he goes down again where would that leave you. McGee is not in Bynum’s class don’t kid yourself. Playing well in 10 games at the end of last year and summer league is one thing but during the course of a season and playoffs is another. Also with the new CBA coming next year this would put the Lakers over the hard cap the next 4 years as well. Makes no sense money wise and how will Arenas handle being the 3rd option and in the triangle when he’s used to dominating the ball.

    -Odom doesn’t need to be that big of an offensive threat when you have Kobe, Gasol, and a third star.
    This is the only pt I agree with you on but Odom is more effective off the bench.

    – Caracter is a huge sleeper.
    Yeah key word sleeper, no guarentee he’s not a bench warmer.

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  • #395314
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    SubZero
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    It’s not near as bad as the D-Rose trade lol…I agree with everything ghettosermon said, but not a bad idea

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  • #395334
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    SubZero
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    It’s not near as bad as the D-Rose trade lol…I agree with everything ghettosermon said, but not a bad idea

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