John Henson’s Massive Progression

I wonder if him gaining a certain amount of weight will make him lose some of his athleticism. I hope not, he really needs weight and more importantly strength and it would be a shame if he had to sacrifice is high level athleticism for the sake of gaining weight.

Articles like that are always good reads though

I wonder if him gaining a certain amount of weight will make him lose some of his athleticism. I hope not, he really needs weight and more importantly strength and it would be a shame if he had to sacrifice is high level athleticism for the sake of gaining weight.

Articles like that are always good reads though

It shouldn’t. You only lose the athleticisim if you don’t work on leg strenght while putting on weight

It shouldn’t. You only lose the athleticisim if you don’t work on leg strenght while putting on weight

I want John Henson’s waist. I would kill for it. Just kidding.

Haha. His trainer said that most girls would kill to have his waist. That sucks..

I want John Henson’s waist. I would kill for it. Just kidding.

Haha. His trainer said that most girls would kill to have his waist. That sucks..

“You only lose the athleticisim if you don’t work on leg strenght while putting on weight”

Not quite true. Everyone has an optimal balance-point of strength and weight performance-wise due to individual differences of frame. U don´t wanna force developing your body before you are 21 – nature is smart and everything happens for a reason – skinniness etc. Forcing development of musculature and gaining weight will affect speed, leaping-ability, stamina little bit – which is not necessarily a bad thing – as Tar Heels need power more than Henson´s speed – there gonna remain plenty of it to his position at no 4. But too fast weight-gaining may cause injuries and it definitely has a possibility to cause problems with knees, achilles etc in future. Especially with big guys. I hope, Henson will not suffer any consequences, but I´d be careful and think that in longer perspective you have to put yourself in a good position if u want to have long and injury-free career. It may me reasonable to optimize your strength more with developing your muscles contraction-abilities and gain reasonable amount of weight instead of “eat everything that moves” and gain as much muscle-mass as possible. I think – John Henson is not actually responsible of Wear brothers leaving and therefore sacrifice normal development to your college-programs success may not be in Hensons best interests.
But thats me.-

“You only lose the athleticisim if you don’t work on leg strenght while putting on weight”

Not quite true. Everyone has an optimal balance-point of strength and weight performance-wise due to individual differences of frame. U don´t wanna force developing your body before you are 21 – nature is smart and everything happens for a reason – skinniness etc. Forcing development of musculature and gaining weight will affect speed, leaping-ability, stamina little bit – which is not necessarily a bad thing – as Tar Heels need power more than Henson´s speed – there gonna remain plenty of it to his position at no 4. But too fast weight-gaining may cause injuries and it definitely has a possibility to cause problems with knees, achilles etc in future. Especially with big guys. I hope, Henson will not suffer any consequences, but I´d be careful and think that in longer perspective you have to put yourself in a good position if u want to have long and injury-free career. It may me reasonable to optimize your strength more with developing your muscles contraction-abilities and gain reasonable amount of weight instead of “eat everything that moves” and gain as much muscle-mass as possible. I think – John Henson is not actually responsible of Wear brothers leaving and therefore sacrifice normal development to your college-programs success may not be in Hensons best interests.
But thats me.-

Austin Daye / Anthony Randolph

Austin Daye / Anthony Randolph

Austin Daye / Anthony Randolph

No. Daye is more offensive minded. Randolph is arguably a better defender and has proven he can play with PT.

Austin Daye / Anthony Randolph

No. Daye is more offensive minded. Randolph is arguably a better defender and has proven he can play with PT.

John Henson right now reminds me of Ndubi Ebi

John Henson right now reminds me of Ndubi Ebi

I think I’ll stick to those I’ve seen and worked out with as well as myself(gained 30pounds of muscle) I lost speed and jumping ability because I ignored my legs. Once I worked on my legs I got them back. If you put on weight but you’re legs don’t get stronger then it’s common sense to know you lose quickness and jumping ability since you’re legs aren’t used to the extra weight. I’m sure there are exceptions since there are exceptions to almost everything.

Extra muscles equals stronger

I think I’ll stick to those I’ve seen and worked out with as well as myself(gained 30pounds of muscle) I lost speed and jumping ability because I ignored my legs. Once I worked on my legs I got them back. If you put on weight but you’re legs don’t get stronger then it’s common sense to know you lose quickness and jumping ability since you’re legs aren’t used to the extra weight. I’m sure there are exceptions since there are exceptions to almost everything.

Extra muscles equals stronger

Hmmmmm. Randolph isn’t a good defender but he’s better then daye. He’s shown to be vet inconsistant with pt. He will get 15-8 one game with 30min then 4 and 5 with the same amount of minutes

Hmmmmm. Randolph isn’t a good defender but he’s better then daye. He’s shown to be vet inconsistant with pt. He will get 15-8 one game with 30min then 4 and 5 with the same amount of minutes

They expecting him to enter the season as 220 pounds. Chris Bosh is 230 pounds at 6-10. Austin Daye is 200 pounds at 6-11. John Henson next season 220 pounds and 6-10? I´d say – too much, too soon.

They expecting him to enter the season as 220 pounds. Chris Bosh is 230 pounds at 6-10. Austin Daye is 200 pounds at 6-11. John Henson next season 220 pounds and 6-10? I´d say – too much, too soon.

john henson is overated in my mind, but i cant judge him hes really young

john henson is overated in my mind, but i cant judge him hes really young

I’m glad he’s added weight to his frame. Now he can bang with 4’s in the ACC without getting overpowered every single time. I think Henson will have a breakout year and end up being a top-10 pick(though he should stay an additional year).

I’m glad he’s added weight to his frame. Now he can bang with 4’s in the ACC without getting overpowered every single time. I think Henson will have a breakout year and end up being a top-10 pick(though he should stay an additional year).

Since he’s balling all summer while putting on weight I see no problems.

@ralwez you say too much to soon have you ever played ball competitive and put on weight during the offseason?

I put on 30pounds and was a better player. My brother added 35 after his freshman year in college and became a monster(he’s 6’9)

Since he’s balling all summer while putting on weight I see no problems.

@ralwez you say too much to soon have you ever played ball competitive and put on weight during the offseason?

I put on 30pounds and was a better player. My brother added 35 after his freshman year in college and became a monster(he’s 6’9)

Put the abstract goals aside for a moment, and ask Henson why is he “downing” synthetic carbs. If anything, his diet will hold him back from hounding his dreams.

Put the abstract goals aside for a moment, and ask Henson why is he “downing” synthetic carbs. If anything, his diet will hold him back from hounding his dreams.

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Yes I have.
I´m not questionising putting on weight or doing it during the offseason, it´s elementary. I think, as I wrote, that putting on too much weight in a very short time may not be good for your health (knees and ankle joints) . It´s actually quite common knowledge, too. Problem is, that knees and ankles may easily get overload – and very often it does´nt cause immediate problems, as u won´t notice if cartilages are abrasing right away. Also – the stronger the pressure is to the ligaments, the bigger are chances to get knee or ankle injury. If u add a lot of weight in a short time, u´ll take a risk, because your ligaments and tendons are not used to the increased load yet as building strength takes less time than toughening ligaments.
That´s actually a valid problem not only in basketball, but in junior sports alltogether – I mean – forceing development to get quicker results and injuries, that this kind of methodics causes.

Yes I have.
I´m not questionising putting on weight or doing it during the offseason, it´s elementary. I think, as I wrote, that putting on too much weight in a very short time may not be good for your health (knees and ankle joints) . It´s actually quite common knowledge, too. Problem is, that knees and ankles may easily get overload – and very often it does´nt cause immediate problems, as u won´t notice if cartilages are abrasing right away. Also – the stronger the pressure is to the ligaments, the bigger are chances to get knee or ankle injury. If u add a lot of weight in a short time, u´ll take a risk, because your ligaments and tendons are not used to the increased load yet as building strength takes less time than toughening ligaments.
That´s actually a valid problem not only in basketball, but in junior sports alltogether – I mean – forceing development to get quicker results and injuries, that this kind of methodics causes.

I disagree when you going from his old weight to 220. I’m sure there is a case where thoses issues have occured but the havnt with any one I know. So what college did you play for and how much you gain before the season

I disagree when you going from his old weight to 220. I’m sure there is a case where thoses issues have occured but the havnt with any one I know. So what college did you play for and how much you gain before the season

I live in europe, so no college-ball here and my case is not the example, so I don´t see any reason to have a dick-contest, no truth lying there.
What are we actually arguing about? That putting on 30 pounds to a wirey frame in 3 months increases the risks of knee and ankle injuries. I say it does – you say, it does not. I suggest u to take a call to any sports-medic u find and ask this question.
I´d say, gaining 10-12 pounds in one offseason is an absolute maximum health-wise for a top-performing athlete. Anything over that can already be dangerous, especially for wirey bone-structured individual.
That´s my opinion there, let´s don´t bother others with further argueing.

I live in europe, so no college-ball here and my case is not the example, so I don´t see any reason to have a dick-contest, no truth lying there.
What are we actually arguing about? That putting on 30 pounds to a wirey frame in 3 months increases the risks of knee and ankle injuries. I say it does – you say, it does not. I suggest u to take a call to any sports-medic u find and ask this question.
I´d say, gaining 10-12 pounds in one offseason is an absolute maximum health-wise for a top-performing athlete. Anything over that can already be dangerous, especially for wirey bone-structured individual.
That´s my opinion there, let´s don´t bother others with further argueing.

Austin Daye plays SF or even SG so being long and lean isn’t such an issue for him. John Henson is seen mainly as a PF so he would need extra bulk when he has to play inside. Kevin Durant has added maybe 30lbs since he was drafted and if John retains a low body fat level and increases his leg strength as Standford Hoops said then this will help him long term. If he wants to be an inside presence in the NBA then the extra strength will be a huge advantage for him.

People were talking about him being a lottery pick this year and I’d say he should go lottery whichever year he declares but a lot will depend how his Sopohomore season goes.

Austin Daye plays SF or even SG so being long and lean isn’t such an issue for him. John Henson is seen mainly as a PF so he would need extra bulk when he has to play inside. Kevin Durant has added maybe 30lbs since he was drafted and if John retains a low body fat level and increases his leg strength as Standford Hoops said then this will help him long term. If he wants to be an inside presence in the NBA then the extra strength will be a huge advantage for him.

People were talking about him being a lottery pick this year and I’d say he should go lottery whichever year he declares but a lot will depend how his Sopohomore season goes.

Kevin Durant was drafted at 2007 (!) and he has put on 15lbs since then. At the 2007 Mock he had 215, now he is 230lbs. 15 pounds over 4 offseason, that´s reasonable amount – don´t u read anything? 😀 can´t argue, that John Henson needs extra strength, and strength will definitely help the powerforward. But u can´t jump over your shadow. I speak about the timeframe, chemical composition of gained weight and the way it may affect developing body (ligaments and tendons).

How can u maintain low body fat level, if u are suggested to “eat everything that moves”, eat 6-7 times a day, ur menue consists cheese (25% percent of fat), fried chicken (approximately the same amount of fat), burritos, “Henson ordered several burgers or grilled chicken sandwiches”, pizzas, “When you really want to put size on, you’ve got to pound the food.” etc.
Even bodybuilders won´t eat that kind of crap during mass-building period – and stick to the eggs, pastas, boiled meat (mainly chicken and fish-meat), cottage cheese with low fat (consists more proteines), milk, yoghurt, some peanuts, oat flakes, buckwheat etc. Avoid everything that s made with oil or fat (fried items), etc etc etc.

Right now it seems, that the goal is to gain body-mass as well as strenght – without mass you are not able to manage properly at tle low post. And idea of gaining 30 pound of pure muscle within 3 months is just… ridiculous. That cannot be done. Fortunately he seem to have very quick metabolism, so I assume, he gonna get rid of the most of his gained body fat in 3-4 months and remain at 205 – 210 pounds.

Kevin Durant was drafted at 2007 (!) and he has put on 15lbs since then. At the 2007 Mock he had 215, now he is 230lbs. 15 pounds over 4 offseason, that´s reasonable amount – don´t u read anything? 😀 can´t argue, that John Henson needs extra strength, and strength will definitely help the powerforward. But u can´t jump over your shadow. I speak about the timeframe, chemical composition of gained weight and the way it may affect developing body (ligaments and tendons).

How can u maintain low body fat level, if u are suggested to “eat everything that moves”, eat 6-7 times a day, ur menue consists cheese (25% percent of fat), fried chicken (approximately the same amount of fat), burritos, “Henson ordered several burgers or grilled chicken sandwiches”, pizzas, “When you really want to put size on, you’ve got to pound the food.” etc.
Even bodybuilders won´t eat that kind of crap during mass-building period – and stick to the eggs, pastas, boiled meat (mainly chicken and fish-meat), cottage cheese with low fat (consists more proteines), milk, yoghurt, some peanuts, oat flakes, buckwheat etc. Avoid everything that s made with oil or fat (fried items), etc etc etc.

Right now it seems, that the goal is to gain body-mass as well as strenght – without mass you are not able to manage properly at tle low post. And idea of gaining 30 pound of pure muscle within 3 months is just… ridiculous. That cannot be done. Fortunately he seem to have very quick metabolism, so I assume, he gonna get rid of the most of his gained body fat in 3-4 months and remain at 205 – 210 pounds.

I must admit players do tend to get overrated at UNC, if Henson is a key contributor to UNCès success at a deep Tournement run then he can easily be a Top 10 Pick, UNC is back, watch out Duke.

I must admit players do tend to get overrated at UNC, if Henson is a key contributor to UNCès success at a deep Tournement run then he can easily be a Top 10 Pick, UNC is back, watch out Duke.

Always liked Henson, and with Barnes incoming plus the weight gain he should have a more successful season. Its a shame Ed Davis left, because that team could have competed for a title with him.

Always liked Henson, and with Barnes incoming plus the weight gain he should have a more successful season. Its a shame Ed Davis left, because that team could have competed for a title with him.

a young (healthy)Jonathan Bender

a young (healthy)Jonathan Bender

but I told you so….

but I told you so….

Added weight definitely affects athleticism. Look at Greg Monroe. He put on muscle way too early. Earlier in his high school career he was a terrific athlete, after gaining mass he became a below average athlete. Lucky for him he is one of the most skilled college bigs we’ve seen come by in a while, I can’t say the same however for Henson’s skills. I’d hope that he doesn’t put on too much mass where he loses athleticism, because at this point that’s his best trait.

Added weight definitely affects athleticism. Look at Greg Monroe. He put on muscle way too early. Earlier in his high school career he was a terrific athlete, after gaining mass he became a below average athlete. Lucky for him he is one of the most skilled college bigs we’ve seen come by in a while, I can’t say the same however for Henson’s skills. I’d hope that he doesn’t put on too much mass where he loses athleticism, because at this point that’s his best trait.

He’s still 210 lbs at 6’10” he still has a very lean build and that added muscle should only help him, I think he could really get up to around 235-240 with his long frame before he started to lose athleticism.

He’s still 210 lbs at 6’10” he still has a very lean build and that added muscle should only help him, I think he could really get up to around 235-240 with his long frame before he started to lose athleticism.

235-240? His shoulders are way too narrow for him to carry that much weight without losing athleticism/flexibility. I think at most Henson can weight like 225

235-240? His shoulders are way too narrow for him to carry that much weight without losing athleticism/flexibility. I think at most Henson can weight like 225

6’10” 225 is still rail thin, if he trains right and bulks up evenly he should be fine. Even Durant weighs about 235 now and he’s 6’9”, no one would ever say he’s too bulky or that he has compromised his athleticism or flexibility.

6’10” 225 is still rail thin, if he trains right and bulks up evenly he should be fine. Even Durant weighs about 235 now and he’s 6’9”, no one would ever say he’s too bulky or that he has compromised his athleticism or flexibility.