Can Fab Melo Become a top 3 Pick?

melo can be a great bigman for cuse and will became a legit top draft he has all skills to shine in ncaa
my comparision is an young bynum stronger in defence after he ia a coachable player

melo can be a great bigman for cuse and will became a legit top draft he has all skills to shine in ncaa
my comparision is an young bynum stronger in defence after he ia a coachable player

Ope unlike Westbrook and turner he’s not as skilled on offense. Very raw right now. Then again some gms aren’t that bright and will draft a player because they are big and athletic yet lacking the skill to contribute much

Ope unlike Westbrook and turner he’s not as skilled on offense. Very raw right now. Then again some gms aren’t that bright and will draft a player because they are big and athletic yet lacking the skill to contribute much

Common sense.I`ve been insisting it for awhile.

-7`0 Feet Tall
-260 Pounds
-Mobile
-Post Skills
-Defensive Skills
-Good Footwork
-NO EXTRORDINARY FLAWS
-STILL HAS ALOT TO GO TO REALIZE HIS POTENTIAL

Orton is a first rounder no way this guy is denied lottery. He wuldve been selected in the 1st round last year.

Common sense.I`ve been insisting it for awhile.

-7`0 Feet Tall
-260 Pounds
-Mobile
-Post Skills
-Defensive Skills
-Good Footwork
-NO EXTRORDINARY FLAWS
-STILL HAS ALOT TO GO TO REALIZE HIS POTENTIAL

Orton is a first rounder no way this guy is denied lottery. He wuldve been selected in the 1st round last year.

A skilled big man is hard to find so I see no reason why Melo will not get drafted around the same spot as Favors or Cousins was this year

A skilled big man is hard to find so I see no reason why Melo will not get drafted around the same spot as Favors or Cousins was this year

Fab Melo is the type of player Calipari turned Cousins into as far as skillset athletisism and size goes. Him and Dion Waiters are vastly underrated.

Fab Melo is the type of player Calipari turned Cousins into as far as skillset athletisism and size goes. Him and Dion Waiters are vastly underrated.

Right off the bat, their is no reason really he should not be a top 3 pick (unless of course the popular other 3 have even bigger seasons). He is a legit 7 footer and just a very big guy, also seems to pick up the game quite well for someone who has not been playing competitively for very long. However, I would maybe compare his level of athleticism to another recent 7 footer, actually probably a cross between both Lopez Bros. Now, both of them have been very successful, but I will go out on a pretty small limb here and say that the “money” Lopez, Brook, is incredibly more polished offensively than Melo. It seems like fab is incredibly raw, and the one thing that will help him improve is more than likely time and experience. With Brook Lopez, who was at times considered a possible top 10 pick until he inexplicably slipped to 10th (more than likely due to his perceived lack of athleticism), it was at least known that he had the offensive ability to at least contribute right away. I do not think Melo currently possesses this, hence it is more than likely that if he were to enter the draft, he would be in the mid to late lottery area rather than the top 7 or so. The reason I would not compare him to an Andrew Bynum would be that I think Bynum is far more athletic and considerably longer (Bynum has a massive wing span). Bynum was incredibly raw as well, but I think people kind of sleep on how athletic Bynum really is, hence his potential beastliness when healthy. I would wait until he plays before jumping on the Melo top 3 bandwagon. I think Barnes is the flat out best NBA prospect out there, super polished and just kills competition on a consistent basis. He is an elite athlete and his skill set is just far ahead of anyone else in the class. The next best at this point is more than likely Kyrie Irving, who just seems to be Chris Paul lite, which is a compliment because Chris Paul’s athleticism and speed combination is still unmatched, though of course John Wall/Derrick Rose/Russell Westbrook/Deron Williams have that strength that makes them the marvels that they are. With that being said, Irving still should be counted on as being a PG that can lead a team for years on end and could be a huge game changer. I think that Perry Jones has a long way to go for his game to catch up to his enormous potential, but with his length, athleticism and skill set, it will be very hard for Melo to move in front of him. I just do not see Melo doing it, I do not think he possesses the athleticism to do it. He is huge and has enormous potential, but he is not the super big man that I think a lot of people are billing him as. He may have no “extraordinary flaws”, but he does have a lot of flaws that will more than likely cause teams to lean towards other more skilled players, even with Melo’s prototypical center size. I would say at this point, that while Enes Kanter may not have the potential of a Melo, he is a much safer pick, and should be light years ahead of Melo as far as contributing immediately. I would love to see the two of them match-up, but i think Kanter would win hands down. Does Melo have the ability to dominate and really go at his competition? Does he have that hunger to be a force game in and game out? His size and ability is definitely a rare thing, but I just do not know if he is as dominant of a Center prospect as people are making him out to be. Center is a position that is gradually changing and seems to have been hit by injury at the top more than any other position, but their are a number of potentially solid Centers in the league, and I do not know if Melo would really rank near the top of that potential list. I of course would love to be proved wrong, and I would hope he becomes a dominant center and finally adds some more competition to the most classically dominant position in the games history, but I warn people to more than likely lower their expectations. I think he is much more likely to be a top 3 pick if he stays in college a few years, but if he leaves (which is super likely), than I would expect anywhere from 8-15.

Right off the bat, their is no reason really he should not be a top 3 pick (unless of course the popular other 3 have even bigger seasons). He is a legit 7 footer and just a very big guy, also seems to pick up the game quite well for someone who has not been playing competitively for very long. However, I would maybe compare his level of athleticism to another recent 7 footer, actually probably a cross between both Lopez Bros. Now, both of them have been very successful, but I will go out on a pretty small limb here and say that the “money” Lopez, Brook, is incredibly more polished offensively than Melo. It seems like fab is incredibly raw, and the one thing that will help him improve is more than likely time and experience. With Brook Lopez, who was at times considered a possible top 10 pick until he inexplicably slipped to 10th (more than likely due to his perceived lack of athleticism), it was at least known that he had the offensive ability to at least contribute right away. I do not think Melo currently possesses this, hence it is more than likely that if he were to enter the draft, he would be in the mid to late lottery area rather than the top 7 or so. The reason I would not compare him to an Andrew Bynum would be that I think Bynum is far more athletic and considerably longer (Bynum has a massive wing span). Bynum was incredibly raw as well, but I think people kind of sleep on how athletic Bynum really is, hence his potential beastliness when healthy. I would wait until he plays before jumping on the Melo top 3 bandwagon. I think Barnes is the flat out best NBA prospect out there, super polished and just kills competition on a consistent basis. He is an elite athlete and his skill set is just far ahead of anyone else in the class. The next best at this point is more than likely Kyrie Irving, who just seems to be Chris Paul lite, which is a compliment because Chris Paul’s athleticism and speed combination is still unmatched, though of course John Wall/Derrick Rose/Russell Westbrook/Deron Williams have that strength that makes them the marvels that they are. With that being said, Irving still should be counted on as being a PG that can lead a team for years on end and could be a huge game changer. I think that Perry Jones has a long way to go for his game to catch up to his enormous potential, but with his length, athleticism and skill set, it will be very hard for Melo to move in front of him. I just do not see Melo doing it, I do not think he possesses the athleticism to do it. He is huge and has enormous potential, but he is not the super big man that I think a lot of people are billing him as. He may have no “extraordinary flaws”, but he does have a lot of flaws that will more than likely cause teams to lean towards other more skilled players, even with Melo’s prototypical center size. I would say at this point, that while Enes Kanter may not have the potential of a Melo, he is a much safer pick, and should be light years ahead of Melo as far as contributing immediately. I would love to see the two of them match-up, but i think Kanter would win hands down. Does Melo have the ability to dominate and really go at his competition? Does he have that hunger to be a force game in and game out? His size and ability is definitely a rare thing, but I just do not know if he is as dominant of a Center prospect as people are making him out to be. Center is a position that is gradually changing and seems to have been hit by injury at the top more than any other position, but their are a number of potentially solid Centers in the league, and I do not know if Melo would really rank near the top of that potential list. I of course would love to be proved wrong, and I would hope he becomes a dominant center and finally adds some more competition to the most classically dominant position in the games history, but I warn people to more than likely lower their expectations. I think he is much more likely to be a top 3 pick if he stays in college a few years, but if he leaves (which is super likely), than I would expect anywhere from 8-15.

I doubt he’ll be a top 3 pick, but I wouldn’t be surprised in the least bit if he emerged into a top 10. His defensive presence and size is unbelievable and his post game isn’t as raw as most say it is. He has a basic foundation of moves and even some counters, but I wonder sometimes if he’s a little too stiff to complete his moves against NBA-caliber big men on a consistent basis at this stage in development though. He’s a prospect that’s a project, but he could be anything from Brendan Haywood to Andrew Bynum

I doubt he’ll be a top 3 pick, but I wouldn’t be surprised in the least bit if he emerged into a top 10. His defensive presence and size is unbelievable and his post game isn’t as raw as most say it is. He has a basic foundation of moves and even some counters, but I wonder sometimes if he’s a little too stiff to complete his moves against NBA-caliber big men on a consistent basis at this stage in development though. He’s a prospect that’s a project, but he could be anything from Brendan Haywood to Andrew Bynum

He will more than likely not be drafted around where Favors and Cousins were this year, is because he is not on their levels as a basketball player. DeMarcus Cousins is much more polished offensively, the guy has the skill set and potential to be a low post force. With Melo, I do not think he has the skill set yet. Also, their is no way he is the athlete Derrick Favors is right now. He is bigger than both of those players, but I have a hard time seeing him put up the numbers Cousins produced in his first year (also, not at the rate at all, Cousins was incredibly efficient). He also does not have the athleticism of a Derrick Favors, whose conditioning seems to be well above both players as well, and will more than likely be a power 4 as opposed to the Center position these players will occupy.

He will more than likely not be drafted around where Favors and Cousins were this year, is because he is not on their levels as a basketball player. DeMarcus Cousins is much more polished offensively, the guy has the skill set and potential to be a low post force. With Melo, I do not think he has the skill set yet. Also, their is no way he is the athlete Derrick Favors is right now. He is bigger than both of those players, but I have a hard time seeing him put up the numbers Cousins produced in his first year (also, not at the rate at all, Cousins was incredibly efficient). He also does not have the athleticism of a Derrick Favors, whose conditioning seems to be well above both players as well, and will more than likely be a power 4 as opposed to the Center position these players will occupy.

I highly doubt it. Even with Boeheim’s summertime praise of him, I don’t think he is “a” a better prospect than Kanter or “b” going to have a better season.The Big East beats up freshmen more than other conferences. The body of work since expansion/one-and-done went into effect is there. How did everyone enjoy Jay Wright’s touted freshman class last year with Yarou, Dominic Cheek, Maalik Wayns, and Isaiah Armwood? How about Dante Taylor filling in for DeJuan Blair? Deniz Kilicli? Ater Majok? Peyton Siva? You can do that for every year over the past five. I think the flaws in Melo’s game will be more quickly and often exposed in that league than if he was to play elsewhere, and while I think he will still have an immediate impact that there will simply be too many other guys who will have better years and less question marks for him to be in a top three discussion.

I highly doubt it. Even with Boeheim’s summertime praise of him, I don’t think he is “a” a better prospect than Kanter or “b” going to have a better season.The Big East beats up freshmen more than other conferences. The body of work since expansion/one-and-done went into effect is there. How did everyone enjoy Jay Wright’s touted freshman class last year with Yarou, Dominic Cheek, Maalik Wayns, and Isaiah Armwood? How about Dante Taylor filling in for DeJuan Blair? Deniz Kilicli? Ater Majok? Peyton Siva? You can do that for every year over the past five. I think the flaws in Melo’s game will be more quickly and often exposed in that league than if he was to play elsewhere, and while I think he will still have an immediate impact that there will simply be too many other guys who will have better years and less question marks for him to be in a top three discussion.

His post game is raw. When you are that tall and athletic yet u don’t dominate consistently then you are obviously raw. That doesn’t include the three games I’ve watched while living in Florida or when I worked out and played in open gym with him. He has potential and should still go lotto bur if he goes top 3 then someone isn’t doing there job

His post game is raw. When you are that tall and athletic yet u don’t dominate consistently then you are obviously raw. That doesn’t include the three games I’ve watched while living in Florida or when I worked out and played in open gym with him. He has potential and should still go lotto bur if he goes top 3 then someone isn’t doing there job

I’m really excited for this year’s draft because there’s no clear favorite for the top 3 pick; in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of players that NBADraft.net has ranked 11-15 (Brandon Knight, Terrence Jones, maybe Jan Vesely) were in the discussion come June. I think Melo has a good shot on talent alone, but one also must consider that he is the only true center NBADraft.net projects will go in the first round this year, after last year’s mass exodus of big men. Now that seemingly every team in the league has solved their PG problem, a bunch of teams will be on the hunt for franchise centers, and plenty of teams that could be picking near the bottom this year – Minnesota (despite Kahn’s Darko fetish) and Toronto first come to mind – will have a hole at the position. Melo’s footwork is raw but he has a reasonably nice jumper out to 15 feet and is showing the willingness to improve (along those lines, he dropped 25 pounds this summer) and will be a force on the defensive end from day one in the league. I think he’s currently the odds on favorite to win Big East DPOY. Based on the expectations being placed on Barnes at UNC, Irving’s potential lack of #1 pick-level upside (he might be the superior PG, but he’s not as electric as Knight, for one), Kanter’s lack of explosiveness (and potential issues regarding amateur playing status), I would say, yeah, he has a decent shot.

I’m really excited for this year’s draft because there’s no clear favorite for the top 3 pick; in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of players that NBADraft.net has ranked 11-15 (Brandon Knight, Terrence Jones, maybe Jan Vesely) were in the discussion come June. I think Melo has a good shot on talent alone, but one also must consider that he is the only true center NBADraft.net projects will go in the first round this year, after last year’s mass exodus of big men. Now that seemingly every team in the league has solved their PG problem, a bunch of teams will be on the hunt for franchise centers, and plenty of teams that could be picking near the bottom this year – Minnesota (despite Kahn’s Darko fetish) and Toronto first come to mind – will have a hole at the position. Melo’s footwork is raw but he has a reasonably nice jumper out to 15 feet and is showing the willingness to improve (along those lines, he dropped 25 pounds this summer) and will be a force on the defensive end from day one in the league. I think he’s currently the odds on favorite to win Big East DPOY. Based on the expectations being placed on Barnes at UNC, Irving’s potential lack of #1 pick-level upside (he might be the superior PG, but he’s not as electric as Knight, for one), Kanter’s lack of explosiveness (and potential issues regarding amateur playing status), I would say, yeah, he has a decent shot.

I don’t see him as dpoy in the big east. He’s a good shot blocker but he’s not the best defender as far as going for pump
fakes foot movement and not picking up
fouls(the zone should help that. I think bothteamsplayhard hit it on the head with how he will struggle in the big east. Big men don’t joust dominate in there as freshmen on offense or defense. And there have been much better bug men who have come in as freshmen and looked average. He will have to adjust

I don’t see him as dpoy in the big east. He’s a good shot blocker but he’s not the best defender as far as going for pump
fakes foot movement and not picking up
fouls(the zone should help that. I think bothteamsplayhard hit it on the head with how he will struggle in the big east. Big men don’t joust dominate in there as freshmen on offense or defense. And there have been much better bug men who have come in as freshmen and looked average. He will have to adjust

Right now he is my number 7 Prospect
-Barnes
-Perry
-Kanter
-Burks
-Vesely
-Sullinger
-Melo

Peoples arguements stating he is not a great prospect are, he is raw and he is not athletic.

To say he is raw is meaningless. So what if he is raw. He is also going to play for a year with Jim Bohiem, one of the best coaches in the world in developing talent, and Jim has extreme confidence in his Freshman.

To say he is unathletic is false. he has average explosiveness, although he is above average athletisism especially for a C. He is more athletic then most NBA C’s which makes him an exceptional prospect athletically.

I see alot of people jumping on the bandwagon, alot of you know who you are. I remember earlier in the year he was in mockdrafts at around 25-35 and alot of people thought he would be staying for 2-3 years. Everyone is slowly coming onto Melo and his stock will only get larger as he starts beasting the big East.

Right now he is my number 7 Prospect
-Barnes
-Perry
-Kanter
-Burks
-Vesely
-Sullinger
-Melo

Peoples arguements stating he is not a great prospect are, he is raw and he is not athletic.

To say he is raw is meaningless. So what if he is raw. He is also going to play for a year with Jim Bohiem, one of the best coaches in the world in developing talent, and Jim has extreme confidence in his Freshman.

To say he is unathletic is false. he has average explosiveness, although he is above average athletisism especially for a C. He is more athletic then most NBA C’s which makes him an exceptional prospect athletically.

I see alot of people jumping on the bandwagon, alot of you know who you are. I remember earlier in the year he was in mockdrafts at around 25-35 and alot of people thought he would be staying for 2-3 years. Everyone is slowly coming onto Melo and his stock will only get larger as he starts beasting the big East.

I’ve never read that people said he’s not a great prospect because he’s raw. I’ve see. People say he’s raw and that’s why he won’t dominate or be a top 3 pick though (unless who ever drafts him is cool with the fact he won’t contribute much in the first couple years)which is true

I’ve never read that people said he’s not a great prospect because he’s raw. I’ve see. People say he’s raw and that’s why he won’t dominate or be a top 3 pick though (unless who ever drafts him is cool with the fact he won’t contribute much in the first couple years)which is true

He won’t be beasting the Big East. The league has McDonald All-Americans and blue chippers with multiple years of development up and down the rosters. Everyone has physical big men. He won’t be the only 280 lbs. center in the league and just walk over people, and like you said he is raw. “So what if he is raw,” well if you can’t physically dominate people skills kind of matter. Have some perspective.

He won’t be beasting the Big East. The league has McDonald All-Americans and blue chippers with multiple years of development up and down the rosters. Everyone has physical big men. He won’t be the only 280 lbs. center in the league and just walk over people, and like you said he is raw. “So what if he is raw,” well if you can’t physically dominate people skills kind of matter. Have some perspective.

A top-10 pick is not out of the question, but top-3? No way. IMO, his potential is a solid starting center in the league. He is not better than Kanter, Irving, Sullinger and Barnes. He doesn’t have the upside of Perry Jones and I’d rather have Terrence, Alec and Knight over him as well (from what I’ve seen/heard so far). Top-3 is just too high for him.

Ohcanada-Exceptional prospect athletically? What are you talking about? He is an average athlete.

A top-10 pick is not out of the question, but top-3? No way. IMO, his potential is a solid starting center in the league. He is not better than Kanter, Irving, Sullinger and Barnes. He doesn’t have the upside of Perry Jones and I’d rather have Terrence, Alec and Knight over him as well (from what I’ve seen/heard so far). Top-3 is just too high for him.

Ohcanada-Exceptional prospect athletically? What are you talking about? He is an average athlete.

Its not too frafetched to believe I mean Thabeet was a number 2 pick and Fab Melo cannot be any rawer then him

Its not too frafetched to believe I mean Thabeet was a number 2 pick and Fab Melo cannot be any rawer then him

Thabeet has better foot work and three years of big east experience. He was also first team
all big east. Will melo be that in year one? Nope. I don’t think any big man has come into
the big east who was raw and just played very very well

Thabeet has better foot work and three years of big east experience. He was also first team
all big east. Will melo be that in year one? Nope. I don’t think any big man has come into
the big east who was raw and just played very very well

I question Fab Melo’s upside, he is a 20 year old freshman which is 2 years older than his class. He is a month older than me, and I am a junior in college. I know it does take big men to develop longer, but a 20 year old freshman, that’s old. I do think he will be an impact freshman on the defensive end, but how he does on offense will determine if he is a top 10 pick or not. Remember last year people were touting Hassan Whiteside as a lottery pick who wouldn’t drop further than the top 20, and he went in the 2nd round. I don’t think Fab Melo will go in round 2 if he left after 1 year, but my point is a guy his size is supposed to be a good defender b/c he is bigger than the competition. IMO it will be how he does on the offensive side of the ball that will determine is true draft stock.

I think his draft stock at the very best is between 5 and 8, I don’t see him going in the top 3 b/c of the potential other players have (Barnes, Jones, Kanter, Irving).

I question Fab Melo’s upside, he is a 20 year old freshman which is 2 years older than his class. He is a month older than me, and I am a junior in college. I know it does take big men to develop longer, but a 20 year old freshman, that’s old. I do think he will be an impact freshman on the defensive end, but how he does on offense will determine if he is a top 10 pick or not. Remember last year people were touting Hassan Whiteside as a lottery pick who wouldn’t drop further than the top 20, and he went in the 2nd round. I don’t think Fab Melo will go in round 2 if he left after 1 year, but my point is a guy his size is supposed to be a good defender b/c he is bigger than the competition. IMO it will be how he does on the offensive side of the ball that will determine is true draft stock.

I think his draft stock at the very best is between 5 and 8, I don’t see him going in the top 3 b/c of the potential other players have (Barnes, Jones, Kanter, Irving).

Not tryin to hate he just doesnt seem like top 3 value in my opinion…then again Udoh or whatever his name is didnt seem like top 10 value either. It really just depends on who drafts where. Say Detroit has pick # 3 and Barnes and Irving are gone then Melo could very well go there but theres an entire season of college ball before we can really debate whos gonna go where’

Not tryin to hate he just doesnt seem like top 3 value in my opinion…then again Udoh or whatever his name is didnt seem like top 10 value either. It really just depends on who drafts where. Say Detroit has pick # 3 and Barnes and Irving are gone then Melo could very well go there but theres an entire season of college ball before we can really debate whos gonna go where’

knicksfan- Whiteside dropped because he is dumb. He kept saying he is better then KG and the Dream.

Greg Oden
“Ohcanada-Exceptional prospect athletically? What are you talking about? He is an average athlete.”
That means..The prospects athletisism is exceptional. It is not a flaw.below average athletisism is a flaw.

I’ve said it once I’ll say it again Melo isnt just a big banging body. The guy is a superskilled Dexter Pittman, with good conditioning. He may not be running people over in the Big East but he will have post moves, he will have a nice jumper, he will block shots, and he will get big rebounds.

knicksfan- Whiteside dropped because he is dumb. He kept saying he is better then KG and the Dream.

Greg Oden
“Ohcanada-Exceptional prospect athletically? What are you talking about? He is an average athlete.”
That means..The prospects athletisism is exceptional. It is not a flaw.below average athletisism is a flaw.

I’ve said it once I’ll say it again Melo isnt just a big banging body. The guy is a superskilled Dexter Pittman, with good conditioning. He may not be running people over in the Big East but he will have post moves, he will have a nice jumper, he will block shots, and he will get big rebounds.

Living in the Cuse, I get to see the practices.

He won’t be a top 3 pick but top 10 could be it. What amazes me is the footwork. He doesn’t have the post moves yet but he will develop them. He is a little goofy sometimes in practice ( Jimmy B yelled at him a couple times already for it) but overall, I expect him to do well this year and get a top 10 selection.

Living in the Cuse, I get to see the practices.

He won’t be a top 3 pick but top 10 could be it. What amazes me is the footwork. He doesn’t have the post moves yet but he will develop them. He is a little goofy sometimes in practice ( Jimmy B yelled at him a couple times already for it) but overall, I expect him to do well this year and get a top 10 selection.

He can leap Kanter because Kanter has injury issues, also his transition to American style basketball could be harsh. He can leapfrog Sulli because Sulli maybe too slow for PF and not long enough for C, also his conditioning maybe an issue. IMO he can’t leapfrog Barnes, Perry or Irving UNLESS it is a team need to acquire a big. In that case he will have to be the top big to be selected Top3 which is possible.

He can leap Kanter because Kanter has injury issues, also his transition to American style basketball could be harsh. He can leapfrog Sulli because Sulli maybe too slow for PF and not long enough for C, also his conditioning maybe an issue. IMO he can’t leapfrog Barnes, Perry or Irving UNLESS it is a team need to acquire a big. In that case he will have to be the top big to be selected Top3 which is possible.

Kanter has injury issues

Really? where did u read that? I didn’t know that…

Kanter has injury issues

Really? where did u read that? I didn’t know that…

Knicksboy can you tell me how he is doing such as his…

-Conditioning
-Jump shot
-Post moves
-Explosiveness
-Confidence

Knicksboy can you tell me how he is doing such as his…

-Conditioning
-Jump shot
-Post moves
-Explosiveness
-Confidence

-Conditioning
He’s alright, he’s going to be a 25-30mpg guy

-Jump shot
Never see him work on it, he doesn’t really need to. Has a baby hook.

-Post moves
Solid, could develop. More left then right

-Explosiveness
Solid. Not jump out your seat like…but good

-Confidence
Great.

-Conditioning
He’s alright, he’s going to be a 25-30mpg guy

-Jump shot
Never see him work on it, he doesn’t really need to. Has a baby hook.

-Post moves
Solid, could develop. More left then right

-Explosiveness
Solid. Not jump out your seat like…but good

-Confidence
Great.

Yah European scouts and coaches warn about his injury issues, say it could be a problem. Blair looked fine last year so it maybe just water under the bridge, but still. I forget where I read it but I can assure you I read it.

Yah European scouts and coaches warn about his injury issues, say it could be a problem. Blair looked fine last year so it maybe just water under the bridge, but still. I forget where I read it but I can assure you I read it.

Ive always been a Cuse fan, now that they seem to enjoy recruiting canadians it just makes it that much easier. Any status reports on the boys, Joseph and particularly Triche.

Ive always been a Cuse fan, now that they seem to enjoy recruiting canadians it just makes it that much easier. Any status reports on the boys, Joseph and particularly Triche.

Melo leap frogging Kanter and Sullinger is laughable. Kanter is a BEAST. He won’t have a transition problem at all. Sullinger is just a straight beast. Not to mention the fact that Melo is almost 2 years older than both. Melo is a solid prospect, but top-3 to me is just funny.

Melo leap frogging Kanter and Sullinger is laughable. Kanter is a BEAST. He won’t have a transition problem at all. Sullinger is just a straight beast. Not to mention the fact that Melo is almost 2 years older than both. Melo is a solid prospect, but top-3 to me is just funny.

Joesph is going to be Big East POY. He’s improved on EVERYTHING. I remember Iggy 9 calling him a Andre Iguodala guy…He might be right.

Everything I seen makes me believe Triche will be the starting point guard. He’s seems to have that lead guard mentality now.

Joesph is going to be Big East POY. He’s improved on EVERYTHING. I remember Iggy 9 calling him a Andre Iguodala guy…He might be right.

Everything I seen makes me believe Triche will be the starting point guard. He’s seems to have that lead guard mentality now.

Melo is two years older then them but has been playing the game for a much shorter period of time which is why he has more room to develop and did Whiteside really say he was better then KG and the Dream

Melo is two years older then them but has been playing the game for a much shorter period of time which is why he has more room to develop and did Whiteside really say he was better then KG and the Dream

Really Knick? I have a hard time believing that. He played TERRIBLE against Gonzaga when I saw him play (Elias is way better than him IMO). He just seems like an athletic defender to me. Time will tell though. I’ll take your word for it. I agree with Triche. He should be the starting pg.

Really Knick? I have a hard time believing that. He played TERRIBLE against Gonzaga when I saw him play (Elias is way better than him IMO). He just seems like an athletic defender to me. Time will tell though. I’ll take your word for it. I agree with Triche. He should be the starting pg.

I want the Raptors to pickup Joseph with their late 1st rounder, do you see him slipping that far in the draft?

I want the Raptors to pickup Joseph with their late 1st rounder, do you see him slipping that far in the draft?

Kris Joseph will prove to be better than Elias Harris, especially as a prospect. He’s also more than an athletic defender. Nobody really knows how he defends anyway since Cuse plays zone. Joseph is a guy that can do everything offensively except shoot the 3. Harris is an energy player who scores by working hard and making wide open shots spotting up

Kris Joseph will prove to be better than Elias Harris, especially as a prospect. He’s also more than an athletic defender. Nobody really knows how he defends anyway since Cuse plays zone. Joseph is a guy that can do everything offensively except shoot the 3. Harris is an energy player who scores by working hard and making wide open shots spotting up

It’s funny you bring that up because I believe Harris will be a lotto pick this season

Joesph didn’t do well in that game because Harris gave him fits. He seemed to work on his ball handing and might actually be 2nd or 3rd on the team in assists. I think Ashton Gibbs and Austin Freeman are the other two guys who could win BE POY

It’s funny you bring that up because I believe Harris will be a lotto pick this season

Joesph didn’t do well in that game because Harris gave him fits. He seemed to work on his ball handing and might actually be 2nd or 3rd on the team in assists. I think Ashton Gibbs and Austin Freeman are the other two guys who could win BE POY

The way you described Joseph is sort of like a Sonny Weems type player. Me likey!

The way you described Joseph is sort of like a Sonny Weems type player. Me likey!

Joseph is more Andre Iguodala or Stacey Augmon than Sonny Weems.

Elias Harris is more like Matt Barnes. Take that however you want.

Joseph is more Andre Iguodala or Stacey Augmon than Sonny Weems.

Elias Harris is more like Matt Barnes. Take that however you want.

Cuse in the house! Knicks fan, I have to ask you, how does Mookie look? Is there any indication as to his role and minutes would be?

And as for the question at hand, top 3 is the hardest to break. Top 5, BEST CASE, if Fab continues to improve his conditioning and awareness, and shows great defensive execution and a foundation of a post game maybe. What he has going for him is that he’s a true center, like Bogut, Kaman, Bynum, Lopez, ect, and theres a real dearth at the NBA level of quality bigs. Meanwhile you have two of the most plentiful positions contending for top spots, tweener forwards, point guards, and jack of all trade wings. Barnes is a clear cut fave to stay in the top 3, meaning Melo would have to outplay everyone but one of Knight, Irving, PJ, Terrence Jones, Kanter, Burks, and both Euro prospects. Thats a tall order.

Cuse in the house! Knicks fan, I have to ask you, how does Mookie look? Is there any indication as to his role and minutes would be?

And as for the question at hand, top 3 is the hardest to break. Top 5, BEST CASE, if Fab continues to improve his conditioning and awareness, and shows great defensive execution and a foundation of a post game maybe. What he has going for him is that he’s a true center, like Bogut, Kaman, Bynum, Lopez, ect, and theres a real dearth at the NBA level of quality bigs. Meanwhile you have two of the most plentiful positions contending for top spots, tweener forwards, point guards, and jack of all trade wings. Barnes is a clear cut fave to stay in the top 3, meaning Melo would have to outplay everyone but one of Knight, Irving, PJ, Terrence Jones, Kanter, Burks, and both Euro prospects. Thats a tall order.

Mookie should start although Waters is pushing strong to start.

I got kicked out of a game because I started a “Put In Mookie” Chant last season. lol

Mookie should start although Waters is pushing strong to start.

I got kicked out of a game because I started a “Put In Mookie” Chant last season. lol

How is he anything like Igoudala? He is an athletic wing who looks to be a versatile defender…Nothing more. He wasn’t half as good as Iggy at the same stage.

How is he anything like Igoudala? He is an athletic wing who looks to be a versatile defender…Nothing more. He wasn’t half as good as Iggy at the same stage.

I’m happy to hear Mookie can finally get some time. He’s been injured a lot which hurt his time and development, but he works mad hard. He took literally 500 jumpshots a day throughout high school, and reallyt wants to leave his mark on the program. he chose number 3 after GMac for a reason.

I’m happy to hear Mookie can finally get some time. He’s been injured a lot which hurt his time and development, but he works mad hard. He took literally 500 jumpshots a day throughout high school, and reallyt wants to leave his mark on the program. he chose number 3 after GMac for a reason.

Mr knicks you better hope the NCAA isn’t ready reading this because it’s against the rules for Jimmy b to be in the gym or coaching while the players are playing ball. That’s a big violation unless they will be playing preaseosin games like Kentucky. I’m actually very suprised that Jimmy would break that rule

Mr knicks you better hope the NCAA isn’t ready reading this because it’s against the rules for Jimmy b to be in the gym or coaching while the players are playing ball. That’s a big violation unless they will be playing preaseosin games like Kentucky. I’m actually very suprised that Jimmy would break that rule

Mr knicks you better hope the NCAA isn’t ready reading this because it’s against the rules for Jimmy b to be in the gym or coaching while the players are playing ball.

For a practice? You sure?

Mr knicks you better hope the NCAA isn’t ready reading this because it’s against the rules for Jimmy b to be in the gym or coaching while the players are playing ball.

For a practice? You sure?

Yep. It’s against NCAA rules. They can play in open gym
but the coaching staff is not allowed to be in there before the start of midnight madness. Trainers are the only ones allowed to be in there

Yep. It’s against NCAA rules. They can play in open gym
but the coaching staff is not allowed to be in there before the start of midnight madness. Trainers are the only ones allowed to be in there

I need a link or something because that’s unbelievable to me.

Can u show me a link of the rules?

I need a link or something because that’s unbelievable to me.

Can u show me a link of the rules?

Go to the NCAA page. I’m
sure it’s there somewhere. I know from
playing college basketball. And from
my brother before me

Go to the NCAA page. I’m
sure it’s there somewhere. I know from
playing college basketball. And from
my brother before me

Fab Melo is listed on this site’s top ten mock draft and once he comes to the NCAA his game will come under greater scrutiny so he could fall or rise up the draft. I have Barnes as my long term number one with Kanter then Perry Jones but Melo if he has a good season could push Kanter to be the top big man drafted and thus get into the top 5 and maybe the top 3.

Jared Sullinger is also in the big man mix in the top 10 but Melo if he can have a season comparable to Jared could get drafted ahead of him given his extra size. Also if Melo has very impressive wingspan and vertical measurements then GM’s always lke big men they can mould but less so in recent drafts.

I don’t really worry about Melo’s offensive game yet as his value will be on defence as a shot changer and if you have a young big with good defence then offence is a bonus and can be worked on.

If Cleveland are in the lottery then teaming up with Varejao and Hickson could be a good place for him to be drafted.

Fab Melo is listed on this site’s top ten mock draft and once he comes to the NCAA his game will come under greater scrutiny so he could fall or rise up the draft. I have Barnes as my long term number one with Kanter then Perry Jones but Melo if he has a good season could push Kanter to be the top big man drafted and thus get into the top 5 and maybe the top 3.

Jared Sullinger is also in the big man mix in the top 10 but Melo if he can have a season comparable to Jared could get drafted ahead of him given his extra size. Also if Melo has very impressive wingspan and vertical measurements then GM’s always lke big men they can mould but less so in recent drafts.

I don’t really worry about Melo’s offensive game yet as his value will be on defence as a shot changer and if you have a young big with good defence then offence is a bonus and can be worked on.

If Cleveland are in the lottery then teaming up with Varejao and Hickson could be a good place for him to be drafted.

Knicksboy is an unreliable source anyways, like come on youre actaully gonna believe him…He is obviously not tellingh the truth about being at the practices because Bohiem would never do something like that ARAN PLZ DELETE THIS THREAD!

Knicksboy is an unreliable source anyways, like come on youre actaully gonna believe him…He is obviously not tellingh the truth about being at the practices because Bohiem would never do something like that ARAN PLZ DELETE THIS THREAD!

lol Destroy the “evidence”!!

lol Destroy the “evidence”!!

Practices haven’t even started yet, the only thing that is going on is conditioning and work outs, but nothing basketball related is allowed until October 15th, or somewhere around that time. Usually 1 month before the team’s first game is when practice officially begins.

Practices haven’t even started yet, the only thing that is going on is conditioning and work outs, but nothing basketball related is allowed until October 15th, or somewhere around that time. Usually 1 month before the team’s first game is when practice officially begins.

Yep. And the coach isn’t allowed to be there. So either Jimmy b is breaking rules or……..

Yep. And the coach isn’t allowed to be there. So either Jimmy b is breaking rules or……..

Why does the NCAA not allow that, I don’t understand the point of the rule. Quincey could you explain it, thanks.

Why does the NCAA not allow that, I don’t understand the point of the rule. Quincey could you explain it, thanks.

because the NCAA Is dumb. Naw but seriouly I think it’s because they want the players to concentrate on school first because they know practice and games will cut into study/school time

because the NCAA Is dumb. Naw but seriouly I think it’s because they want the players to concentrate on school first because they know practice and games will cut into study/school time

Yeah that does make sense regarding school and studies as well as getting acclimated (more so for freshman) to college life.

Yeah that does make sense regarding school and studies as well as getting acclimated (more so for freshman) to college life.

Joseph is a very good passer and ball-handler too. You’ll see it this season. He’s more than just a versatile defender. How can you even know if he’s a versatile defender if he plays in a 2-3 zone?

Joseph is a very good passer and ball-handler too. You’ll see it this season. He’s more than just a versatile defender. How can you even know if he’s a versatile defender if he plays in a 2-3 zone?

Learned my lesson today…no lying.

Learned my lesson today…no lying.

“And actually, he’s not a good ball handler. That is one of his weaknesses.”

You seriously don’t know what you’re talking about man…

“And actually, he’s not a good ball handler. That is one of his weaknesses.”

You seriously don’t know what you’re talking about man…

You don’t measure passing skills for a SF like Joseph purely based on assists, especially who saw him minutes reduced from playing behind a guy who was 3rd in the N.P.O.Y voting at his natural position, and playing behind a big bodied and reasonably productive PF in Rick Jackson at the only other position he played last season . He’s a good passer and ball-handler. Nothing about his ball-handling and passing are below average, but hey, you’ll see with the added responsiblily he’ll shoulder next season.

Gordon Hayward is a good passer, and his assist numbers were eerily similar to the ones Kris Joseph put up for example. Anyone who watches Syracuse play will tell you Joseph is a point-forward with solid handles and passing ability. And what does it matter that he’s not ranked as a top 15 pick in SEPTEMBER? Lol, just wait until the end of the season. Alot of things about Joseph’s game will come to light and he will be mentioned as a lotto prospect

You don’t measure passing skills for a SF like Joseph purely based on assists, especially who saw him minutes reduced from playing behind a guy who was 3rd in the N.P.O.Y voting at his natural position, and playing behind a big bodied and reasonably productive PF in Rick Jackson at the only other position he played last season . He’s a good passer and ball-handler. Nothing about his ball-handling and passing are below average, but hey, you’ll see with the added responsiblily he’ll shoulder next season.

Gordon Hayward is a good passer, and his assist numbers were eerily similar to the ones Kris Joseph put up for example. Anyone who watches Syracuse play will tell you Joseph is a point-forward with solid handles and passing ability. And what does it matter that he’s not ranked as a top 15 pick in SEPTEMBER? Lol, just wait until the end of the season. Alot of things about Joseph’s game will come to light and he will be mentioned as a lotto prospect

Nbadraft weakness

Weaknesses: Kris is very raw, and his offensive game is rather limited … He lacks any range on his jump shot- his shooting lacks any type of consistency or fluidity … He has a poor handle of the basketball, and tends to be out of control too frequently … Low basketball IQ, looks more like a great athlete playing basketball rather than a basketball player who’s an athlete… Right now his skill set is too limited to have any impact at the next level, however, with an improved outside game, he could turn into an intriguing prospect

Jonathan Wasserman 2/17/09

Nbadraft weakness

Weaknesses: Kris is very raw, and his offensive game is rather limited … He lacks any range on his jump shot- his shooting lacks any type of consistency or fluidity … He has a poor handle of the basketball, and tends to be out of control too frequently … Low basketball IQ, looks more like a great athlete playing basketball rather than a basketball player who’s an athlete… Right now his skill set is too limited to have any impact at the next level, however, with an improved outside game, he could turn into an intriguing prospect

Jonathan Wasserman 2/17/09

I saw where they had that too…..I don’t agree with that poor handle part at all. I really don’t see how that could be said about him. There is literally nothing poor about his ball-handling. Like seriously.

I saw where they had that too…..I don’t agree with that poor handle part at all. I really don’t see how that could be said about him. There is literally nothing poor about his ball-handling. Like seriously.

That scouting report was from over a year ago. Joseph’s game has developed a lot since then. The dates on the scouting reports are usually dated, so they are not reliable at times.

That scouting report was from over a year ago. Joseph’s game has developed a lot since then. The dates on the scouting reports are usually dated, so they are not reliable at times.

I’ve never really paid alot of attention to him but from what I’ve read he’s gonna be a star this year. I watched vise games but he was very memorable. Other then being a good athlete. Now he will be the man so we will see just how good he is

I’ve never really paid alot of attention to him but from what I’ve read he’s gonna be a star this year. I watched vise games but he was very memorable. Other then being a good athlete. Now he will be the man so we will see just how good he is

You guys are actually putting Fab Melo ahead of Brandon Knight..
I know there not in the same position, but come on now.

If Epke Udoh can get top 10, then he can also.
He has a nice big body, and is a nice low post scorer… In high school… but really, you see his upside as Andrew Bynum?
Maybe its because I think every year theres a guy who’s 6’11-7’0 who can Block shots and clog the lane and gets really overrated and ends up being a high pick, and doesn’t even produce.
Eh, itll be interesting.

As far as top 3.. No.
There are way better prospects than him.
Barnes, Irving, Knight, Selby, and even C.J. Leslie.
I think the number of bigmen is going to be very weak this year, and he’ll be a high pick regardless though.

You guys are actually putting Fab Melo ahead of Brandon Knight..
I know there not in the same position, but come on now.

If Epke Udoh can get top 10, then he can also.
He has a nice big body, and is a nice low post scorer… In high school… but really, you see his upside as Andrew Bynum?
Maybe its because I think every year theres a guy who’s 6’11-7’0 who can Block shots and clog the lane and gets really overrated and ends up being a high pick, and doesn’t even produce.
Eh, itll be interesting.

As far as top 3.. No.
There are way better prospects than him.
Barnes, Irving, Knight, Selby, and even C.J. Leslie.
I think the number of bigmen is going to be very weak this year, and he’ll be a high pick regardless though.

Melo isn’t as good as the Baylor big man but he could be as good or better. Right now he isn’t though

Melo isn’t as good as the Baylor big man but he could be as good or better. Right now he isn’t though

Who knows if he even comes out this season…

Who knows if he even comes out this season…

Unless he has a really bad season he is coming out. The guy is a 20 year old freshman, which is 2 years older than the rest of his class. I am sure of it.

Unless he has a really bad season he is coming out. The guy is a 20 year old freshman, which is 2 years older than the rest of his class. I am sure of it.

Fab Melo will also learn a load playing under a Coach Boeheim who has said as quoted on Fab’s profile on this site that he may have a freshman year similar to what Thabeet had at UConn in 2006-07. Fab has the size to compete inside and has apparently dropped 30lbs or so to get into better shape over the last year or so.

If we consider Fab as a top 3 candidate for next year then it will be tough but if he has a decent rookie year then this site has him in their 2011 mock draft at 7 so it shows how highly they rate him. But next year we have Barnes and Jones who currently seem consensus top and top 3 pick respectively Kanter will surely develop under Coach Cal and like Fab coming to the NCAA will raise his profile much more with NBA scouts and if they like what they see then he will be a top 5 challenger.

Recently teams have started to favour PG’s in the dtraft and if Coach K can develop Kyrie Irving then he is a top 5 challenger.

Personally I’ve always been a fan of Motiejunas who could be the sort of player that a GM may take a flyer on if he had a good workout and they think he could have hidden upside. I think Motiejunas will go top 10 whenever he declares and if he impresses then he can go top 5 or better.

Fab may not be a top 3 pick in 2011 but if he returned and had another year a Syracuse then he could be a legit top 3 pick in 2012 as he would potentially be much more NBA ready then.

Also when teams are looking at the draft they often look for players to build a team around and however good some of these prospects are they may be more .

Fab Melo will also learn a load playing under a Coach Boeheim who has said as quoted on Fab’s profile on this site that he may have a freshman year similar to what Thabeet had at UConn in 2006-07. Fab has the size to compete inside and has apparently dropped 30lbs or so to get into better shape over the last year or so.

If we consider Fab as a top 3 candidate for next year then it will be tough but if he has a decent rookie year then this site has him in their 2011 mock draft at 7 so it shows how highly they rate him. But next year we have Barnes and Jones who currently seem consensus top and top 3 pick respectively Kanter will surely develop under Coach Cal and like Fab coming to the NCAA will raise his profile much more with NBA scouts and if they like what they see then he will be a top 5 challenger.

Recently teams have started to favour PG’s in the dtraft and if Coach K can develop Kyrie Irving then he is a top 5 challenger.

Personally I’ve always been a fan of Motiejunas who could be the sort of player that a GM may take a flyer on if he had a good workout and they think he could have hidden upside. I think Motiejunas will go top 10 whenever he declares and if he impresses then he can go top 5 or better.

Fab may not be a top 3 pick in 2011 but if he returned and had another year a Syracuse then he could be a legit top 3 pick in 2012 as he would potentially be much more NBA ready then.

Also when teams are looking at the draft they often look for players to build a team around and however good some of these prospects are they may be more .

Don’t agree that teams have fabored pg in the draft. It just so happen that there were alot of good pg in the draft two seasons ago. Which ever position has thr most depth tends to get the most drafted on any given year. The talk is the 2012 draft will be good for teams wanting bigs

Don’t agree that teams have fabored pg in the draft. It just so happen that there were alot of good pg in the draft two seasons ago. Which ever position has thr most depth tends to get the most drafted on any given year. The talk is the 2012 draft will be good for teams wanting bigs

I watched him play AAU last summer and I sat right behind Boeheim and Mike Hopkins…..he had no clue what to do or where to go when they slapped a zone on him…….he can be a top 5 pick if he stays 2 years…..he has a lot to learn but he can definitely get the coaching he needs at SU…..

I watched him play AAU last summer and I sat right behind Boeheim and Mike Hopkins…..he had no clue what to do or where to go when they slapped a zone on him…….he can be a top 5 pick if he stays 2 years…..he has a lot to learn but he can definitely get the coaching he needs at SU…..

Told you this guy is very raw and isnt ready. He looks lost out there and is very very foul prone….lmao@ a superskilled dexter pittman

Told you this guy is very raw and isnt ready. He looks lost out there and is very very foul prone….lmao@ a superskilled dexter pittman

Told you this guy is very raw and isnt ready. He looks lost out there and is very very foul prone….lmao@ a superskilled dexter pittman