The Deadly Perspective on a Few Things..

– Knicks will win 40 games and Rautins will only get garbage minutes behind Azaubuike, Chandler, Walker and Mason, while battling Fields for playing time (and based on SL outputs, it looks like that’ll be a losing battle for Rautins).

– I can’t see Carmelo in Sac Town. Their franchise cornerstones are Evans and Cousins; both are/will be great, but Evans is extremely ball-dominant and Cousins…who knows.

– Mo Williams this year will be Mike James in 2005-06 when he averaged 20 ppg and the Raptors won 27 games.

– Warriors will continue to be mediocre until they organize themselves properly.

– Yes, Mavs sort of reminding me of the Celtics but they don’t play as great D and they don’t have championship-caliber O anymore.

– Knicks will win 40 games and Rautins will only get garbage minutes behind Azaubuike, Chandler, Walker and Mason, while battling Fields for playing time (and based on SL outputs, it looks like that’ll be a losing battle for Rautins).

– I can’t see Carmelo in Sac Town. Their franchise cornerstones are Evans and Cousins; both are/will be great, but Evans is extremely ball-dominant and Cousins…who knows.

– Mo Williams this year will be Mike James in 2005-06 when he averaged 20 ppg and the Raptors won 27 games.

– Warriors will continue to be mediocre until they organize themselves properly.

– Yes, Mavs sort of reminding me of the Celtics but they don’t play as great D and they don’t have championship-caliber O anymore.

Knicks will be fine rebounding, Lee only rebounded “so well” because he was the only real “big” the Knicks had. Knicks added a lot of size and actually have centers this year (not good ones but centers that can help out the rebounding and interior presence nonetheless). They also added tall athletic Anthony Randolph who Per 36 is a very good rebounder and shot blocker. I also expect Gallo to be more physical this year finally going through a healthy summer and being further removed from his injury. Felton and Douglas are both solid guard rebounders, as is Azibukee. They potentially will have four 6-10+ players in the starting line up next season.

Knicks will be fine rebounding, Lee only rebounded “so well” because he was the only real “big” the Knicks had. Knicks added a lot of size and actually have centers this year (not good ones but centers that can help out the rebounding and interior presence nonetheless). They also added tall athletic Anthony Randolph who Per 36 is a very good rebounder and shot blocker. I also expect Gallo to be more physical this year finally going through a healthy summer and being further removed from his injury. Felton and Douglas are both solid guard rebounders, as is Azibukee. They potentially will have four 6-10+ players in the starting line up next season.

Am I the only one skeptical of this move maybe on behalf of the Kings? I personally think Evans and Melo might step on each others toes, much more so than say Dwyane Wade and LeBron James. Not to mention Melo nor Evans play close to the defense of the other two. I am also very interested to see how DeMarcus Cousins does defensively in the NBA. I know he put up huge numbers in college and can block shots on his length alone, but I think he might struggle to guard faster players, which very well could be most players he is playing against. Certainly foul trouble might be a worry, if it is for Greg Oden what makes the even less athletic Cousins immune, especially on a young team like the Kings? Add in Carl Landry at the 4, that is one undersized team, even with Evans maybe playing point. Just does not seem to make much sense for both teams, considering I am sure that the Nuggets could get better offers if they act immediately. I think it is a pipe dream for Kings fans who would love to see a team with those three skilled offensive players at the core, but ultimately I have major apprehension with that team working without major personnel change in the supporting cast department. For those who come back and tell me who the Kings have that would play defense (and I already thought of Hassan Whiteside, who at this point definitely does not count as a low post stopper), think who exactly the Kings would be giving up. Now, I do think the Kings would more than likely win the deal, but would it make them much more than a one and done play-off team? Than how would they get better? What would be that teams identity? Just do not see it working out like people may hope, which would be the Kings turning into a contending franchise. Like DeMarcus Cousins play a game before we see if that is possible. Because, as much potential as he does have, he still has a number of things he needs to work on before you would call him a franchise leading center. He has the potential to get there, but he has yet to display whether he can fulfill it.

Am I the only one skeptical of this move maybe on behalf of the Kings? I personally think Evans and Melo might step on each others toes, much more so than say Dwyane Wade and LeBron James. Not to mention Melo nor Evans play close to the defense of the other two. I am also very interested to see how DeMarcus Cousins does defensively in the NBA. I know he put up huge numbers in college and can block shots on his length alone, but I think he might struggle to guard faster players, which very well could be most players he is playing against. Certainly foul trouble might be a worry, if it is for Greg Oden what makes the even less athletic Cousins immune, especially on a young team like the Kings? Add in Carl Landry at the 4, that is one undersized team, even with Evans maybe playing point. Just does not seem to make much sense for both teams, considering I am sure that the Nuggets could get better offers if they act immediately. I think it is a pipe dream for Kings fans who would love to see a team with those three skilled offensive players at the core, but ultimately I have major apprehension with that team working without major personnel change in the supporting cast department. For those who come back and tell me who the Kings have that would play defense (and I already thought of Hassan Whiteside, who at this point definitely does not count as a low post stopper), think who exactly the Kings would be giving up. Now, I do think the Kings would more than likely win the deal, but would it make them much more than a one and done play-off team? Than how would they get better? What would be that teams identity? Just do not see it working out like people may hope, which would be the Kings turning into a contending franchise. Like DeMarcus Cousins play a game before we see if that is possible. Because, as much potential as he does have, he still has a number of things he needs to work on before you would call him a franchise leading center. He has the potential to get there, but he has yet to display whether he can fulfill it.

Who would the Kings trade for Melo?

Casspi, Landry and Thompson?

Who would the Kings trade for Melo?

Casspi, Landry and Thompson?

Actually the word is they are considering

Offense:
Felton
Gallo
AR
Amare
Turiaf

Defense:
Felton
AR
Gallo
Amare
Turiaf

Actually the word is they are considering

Offense:
Felton
Gallo
AR
Amare
Turiaf

Defense:
Felton
AR
Gallo
Amare
Turiaf

Randolph is a good rebounder regardless how you look at it… and david lee will get exposed playing next to a real center. Real knick fans know he struggled when D league center Earl Barron was playing alongside him and went through a stretch getting under 10 rpg because of that. His starting PF last season was Jared Jeffries!!! back up PF was Al Harrington!!! of course he got a lot of rebounds.

Randolph is a good rebounder regardless how you look at it… and david lee will get exposed playing next to a real center. Real knick fans know he struggled when D league center Earl Barron was playing alongside him and went through a stretch getting under 10 rpg because of that. His starting PF last season was Jared Jeffries!!! back up PF was Al Harrington!!! of course he got a lot of rebounds.

Turiaf is most likely starting, but probably only getting 20-25 minutes… with Amare getting some spot minutes at C… or Curry (if he can get his shit together) or mozgov (if he proves he can play) getting the rest.

Turiaf is most likely starting, but probably only getting 20-25 minutes… with Amare getting some spot minutes at C… or Curry (if he can get his shit together) or mozgov (if he proves he can play) getting the rest.

regardless who starts the Knicks have size this year…. last year their only “bigs” were al harrington, david lee and jeffries. No chance they are a worse rebounding team than last year, Lees stats were very padded. Amare still gets his 9 rebounds a game, its far from stellar but not too horrific either, the future Center of the NBA according to soem posters Brook Lopez averaged less.

regardless who starts the Knicks have size this year…. last year their only “bigs” were al harrington, david lee and jeffries. No chance they are a worse rebounding team than last year, Lees stats were very padded. Amare still gets his 9 rebounds a game, its far from stellar but not too horrific either, the future Center of the NBA according to soem posters Brook Lopez averaged less.

The Mavericks need a huge scoring year out of Butler. He seemed to not be in the flow of the offense last year, but I don’t understand why he can’t be this year. The Mavericks love running the two man game with a guard and Dirk posting up. Butler isn’t that bad of a post up wing. If he can step up as a great 2nd option and Terry can come off the bench and be consistent all the way through to the playoffs, then the Mavs should have no problem being the 2nd best team in the West. A first round elimination for a team with this many veterans and this high of a payroll shouldn’t happen. If it does then it will just be another year lost for Dirk.

I hate to say it, but Dirk may be following in Karl Malone and Charles Barkley’s footsteps.

The Mavericks need a huge scoring year out of Butler. He seemed to not be in the flow of the offense last year, but I don’t understand why he can’t be this year. The Mavericks love running the two man game with a guard and Dirk posting up. Butler isn’t that bad of a post up wing. If he can step up as a great 2nd option and Terry can come off the bench and be consistent all the way through to the playoffs, then the Mavs should have no problem being the 2nd best team in the West. A first round elimination for a team with this many veterans and this high of a payroll shouldn’t happen. If it does then it will just be another year lost for Dirk.

I hate to say it, but Dirk may be following in Karl Malone and Charles Barkley’s footsteps.

Is Earl Barron going to get resigned by the Knicks? I think it is unlikely. He will probably be going elsewhere.

Is Earl Barron going to get resigned by the Knicks? I think it is unlikely. He will probably be going elsewhere.

Felton averaged 3.6 rebounds per game in a slow offense… so you can expect at least 4 rebounds from him compared to the 2 and change Duhon had.
Gallo may be soft, but he will step it up this year at least a bit more than last year, the guy just came off back surgery last year he should be more aggressive.
Turiaf is a solid rebounder in a limited role.
AR when healthy rookie year averaged 6 rebounds per 18 mpg, you can expect 8-9 rebounds at the very least if he gets starter minutes.
don’t see how Lee’s extra 2 rpg over amare wont be easily covered by the other improvements they made.

they wont be an elite rebounding team, but they will actually be better than last year, when they got abused in the paint.
The knicks had two major problems last year that made them suck so bad… awful PG play and incredible lack of size, they got pummeled and abused in the paint every night. This season both of those issues have been improved on.

Felton averaged 3.6 rebounds per game in a slow offense… so you can expect at least 4 rebounds from him compared to the 2 and change Duhon had.
Gallo may be soft, but he will step it up this year at least a bit more than last year, the guy just came off back surgery last year he should be more aggressive.
Turiaf is a solid rebounder in a limited role.
AR when healthy rookie year averaged 6 rebounds per 18 mpg, you can expect 8-9 rebounds at the very least if he gets starter minutes.
don’t see how Lee’s extra 2 rpg over amare wont be easily covered by the other improvements they made.

they wont be an elite rebounding team, but they will actually be better than last year, when they got abused in the paint.
The knicks had two major problems last year that made them suck so bad… awful PG play and incredible lack of size, they got pummeled and abused in the paint every night. This season both of those issues have been improved on.

I doubt Barron gets resigned, Knicks have a logjam of below average centers already…I did like him though he definitely deserves a spot with an NBA team and would make a very solid back up.

I doubt Barron gets resigned, Knicks have a logjam of below average centers already…I did like him though he definitely deserves a spot with an NBA team and would make a very solid back up.

How does Melo got to the Kings without King giving up either Evans or Cousins. Denver is asking NJ for Brook Lopez and NJ is saying no. I would trade Melo for Brook and Murphy plus picks but hey that is me. Brook is nice but Favors will be the Center in a few year and Brook a power forward and Power forwards are not that scarce that NJ could not replace him.

How does Melo got to the Kings without King giving up either Evans or Cousins. Denver is asking NJ for Brook Lopez and NJ is saying no. I would trade Melo for Brook and Murphy plus picks but hey that is me. Brook is nice but Favors will be the Center in a few year and Brook a power forward and Power forwards are not that scarce that NJ could not replace him.

The Knicks have a great front court so how would rebounding be and issue. They could over come Lee’s rebounding by committee. Amare can get you aroun 8 boards which is like 4 or 5 less than Lee. Turiaf, Gallo, Randolph, and even Chandler will make up those 4 or 5 rebounds.

The Knicks have a great front court so how would rebounding be and issue. They could over come Lee’s rebounding by committee. Amare can get you aroun 8 boards which is like 4 or 5 less than Lee. Turiaf, Gallo, Randolph, and even Chandler will make up those 4 or 5 rebounds.

luol deng, taj gibson, and james johnson for melo.

deng is one of 8 players who are 25 and under to average 17 and 7. he is just entering his prime

add a couple first round picks too. that should be enough to lure denver and keep melo happy

luol deng, taj gibson, and james johnson for melo.

deng is one of 8 players who are 25 and under to average 17 and 7. he is just entering his prime

add a couple first round picks too. that should be enough to lure denver and keep melo happy

That is an awful trade idea… teams are offering players like Steph Curry, Favors etc. and homer bull fans want to trade the 10th best SF in the league with a 13 million dollar contract for the 2nd or 3rd best SF. Its hilarious how every possible trade Bulls fans bring up Deng like he is some hot commodity, meanwhile they offer him for just about anyone and would love to get rid of him but insist that everyone else wants him. I bet if the Bulls front office got a deal that Deng just leaves and the contract comes off the books they take it. NO ONE wants Deng and his pathetic contract for an average player at his position. James Johnson is most likely a bust and Taj Gibson peaked last season, all he is is a solid bench player.

That is an awful trade idea… teams are offering players like Steph Curry, Favors etc. and homer bull fans want to trade the 10th best SF in the league with a 13 million dollar contract for the 2nd or 3rd best SF. Its hilarious how every possible trade Bulls fans bring up Deng like he is some hot commodity, meanwhile they offer him for just about anyone and would love to get rid of him but insist that everyone else wants him. I bet if the Bulls front office got a deal that Deng just leaves and the contract comes off the books they take it. NO ONE wants Deng and his pathetic contract for an average player at his position. James Johnson is most likely a bust and Taj Gibson peaked last season, all he is is a solid bench player.

k forum tough guy, i know this because 99% of small town team fans have an agenda against the Knicks. If you don’t want Knicks to be discussed in your forum DONT BRING THEM UP… simple as that. It’s not like I walked into a forum that was strictly about your favorite team and started talking about the Knicks.
I don’t care if my team struggles to make the playoffs, you must feel really special that you root for a team that will apparently win more games.

k forum tough guy, i know this because 99% of small town team fans have an agenda against the Knicks. If you don’t want Knicks to be discussed in your forum DONT BRING THEM UP… simple as that. It’s not like I walked into a forum that was strictly about your favorite team and started talking about the Knicks.
I don’t care if my team struggles to make the playoffs, you must feel really special that you root for a team that will apparently win more games.

not once did i say the knicks will be good, but they will be better, i dont think anyone in their right mind can say otherwise. the inferiority complex people have with new york is ridiculous…

not once did i say the knicks will be good, but they will be better, i dont think anyone in their right mind can say otherwise. the inferiority complex people have with new york is ridiculous…

Not once have I said a single thing about them being good let alone great. Just because I don’t agree with you that loss of David Lee really hurts the Knicks so drastically in rebounding does not suggest I’m being an irrational homer.
And speaking of acting like you know someone… I have never seen anyone, especially myself, suggest that Chandler and Curry is fair for Melo… I do however feel that the whole Knicks CANNOT put together a package is a little overblown… if the Knicks wanted to completely gut the team they have enough talent to get Melo but I personally don’t want anything to do with that sort of trade. I have given up on Melo a long time ago and am aware that he is not going to be a Knick… and I;m fine with that,
Nothing with someone being excited about the team improving, again I never said Sergio would be a great PG (putting words in my mouth to make an argument? hypocrite?), but I admit I was hopeful because apparently you haven;t watched enough Knick games to know that Duhon was not even a top 50 PG last year and ANYONE who wont dribble the ball off his foot was an exciting change. I honestly think Sergio did ok but wasn;t given much of a chance due to Mike’s weird love affair with Duhon.
As for my inferiority complex statement, truth is people enjoy taking jabs at the Knicks… its a pretty known fact in forums, probably because of so many pro knick rumors and so many fans such as myself “ruining your forums”. Of course when there is a lot of soemthing, you can find something wrong with it. Plus I think people enjoy seeing the “evil empire” thats full of money hungry, cocky people fail and I accept that but sometimes it just gets silly. Apparently people think Knicks do not have enough even if they offer Gallo, Randolph, Chandler, Douglas, Walker etc but then make dumb trade suggestions like Deng, Johnson and Gibson or Jeffries, Hill, Budinger and 2 picks in the 20s as plausable trades….

Not once have I said a single thing about them being good let alone great. Just because I don’t agree with you that loss of David Lee really hurts the Knicks so drastically in rebounding does not suggest I’m being an irrational homer.
And speaking of acting like you know someone… I have never seen anyone, especially myself, suggest that Chandler and Curry is fair for Melo… I do however feel that the whole Knicks CANNOT put together a package is a little overblown… if the Knicks wanted to completely gut the team they have enough talent to get Melo but I personally don’t want anything to do with that sort of trade. I have given up on Melo a long time ago and am aware that he is not going to be a Knick… and I;m fine with that,
Nothing with someone being excited about the team improving, again I never said Sergio would be a great PG (putting words in my mouth to make an argument? hypocrite?), but I admit I was hopeful because apparently you haven;t watched enough Knick games to know that Duhon was not even a top 50 PG last year and ANYONE who wont dribble the ball off his foot was an exciting change. I honestly think Sergio did ok but wasn;t given much of a chance due to Mike’s weird love affair with Duhon.
As for my inferiority complex statement, truth is people enjoy taking jabs at the Knicks… its a pretty known fact in forums, probably because of so many pro knick rumors and so many fans such as myself “ruining your forums”. Of course when there is a lot of soemthing, you can find something wrong with it. Plus I think people enjoy seeing the “evil empire” thats full of money hungry, cocky people fail and I accept that but sometimes it just gets silly. Apparently people think Knicks do not have enough even if they offer Gallo, Randolph, Chandler, Douglas, Walker etc but then make dumb trade suggestions like Deng, Johnson and Gibson or Jeffries, Hill, Budinger and 2 picks in the 20s as plausable trades….

I don’t see how me defending the Knicks rebounding and finding your negativity to people writing about the Knicks WHEN YOU DISCUSS THEM IN YOUR FORUM pretty laughable makes me a NY Dick. That sort of defensive attitude concerning anything New York is what I constantly see in forums.
I could care less if Mo Williams scores 20ppg next year, I comment on what I am interested in… if you wanted to only talk Mo Williams, make a Mo Williams thread and I promise you I wont put my “Knicks Garbage” in it.

I don’t see how me defending the Knicks rebounding and finding your negativity to people writing about the Knicks WHEN YOU DISCUSS THEM IN YOUR FORUM pretty laughable makes me a NY Dick. That sort of defensive attitude concerning anything New York is what I constantly see in forums.
I could care less if Mo Williams scores 20ppg next year, I comment on what I am interested in… if you wanted to only talk Mo Williams, make a Mo Williams thread and I promise you I wont put my “Knicks Garbage” in it.

And its no secret in NY, that even though we love David Lee, his stats were padded. He was the only player on the roster capable or willing to get rebounds which in turn slightly inflated his numbers, it was evident when he played with a big man his rebounding numbers dipped drastically.
As for his offense, he enjoyed his speed and jump shot against slower and less willing to defend the perimeter centers because he played out of position. However, again I know you are not a Knick fan because you would also realize how badly he was abused on defense for the same reason (partially not his fault). I know Amare is far from a good defender, but his size and the fact that he is a real presence in the paint makes him A LOT better than Lee. It is very possible Lee was the worst big man defender in the league last year.

And its no secret in NY, that even though we love David Lee, his stats were padded. He was the only player on the roster capable or willing to get rebounds which in turn slightly inflated his numbers, it was evident when he played with a big man his rebounding numbers dipped drastically.
As for his offense, he enjoyed his speed and jump shot against slower and less willing to defend the perimeter centers because he played out of position. However, again I know you are not a Knick fan because you would also realize how badly he was abused on defense for the same reason (partially not his fault). I know Amare is far from a good defender, but his size and the fact that he is a real presence in the paint makes him A LOT better than Lee. It is very possible Lee was the worst big man defender in the league last year.

Duhon did good? the same duhon that averaged 4ppg and 5 apg shooting like 27% from the floor for a 2 month stretch? The same Duhon that got EVERY assist off the same pick and roll with David Lee even when it was not there? Same Duhon that wouldn’t make a shot for 4-5 games in a row?
Robinson “helped” the celtics by having one good game…. celtics kept him on a VERY short leash. The same Nate that played like 1 game the first 2 round… ye crucial to the success.
Crawford finally got the right role, thats what he is a high volume player that is great off the bench…. not so great as your 1 or 2 option though.
Harrington is the dumbest player in the NBA, I stick to that. chuck that just put his head down and tried to do something. How many players do you know that got game costing hanging on the rim technicals last 30 seconds of the game TWICE in the same month?
As for the whole hate the fans thing, thats a bit of a generalization isn’t it? I haven;t seen a single mention of the Knicks being anything more than decent in this forum. As for the fans, yes you will have hungry fans when your team struggled for a decade and every day there is a different rumor in the paper about them getting someone. I have noticed this with other teams of “more rational” fans, once their team is mentioned in any rumor they act the same exact way, make stupid trade threads that make no sense etc. Part of being a fan is being at leats being somewhat of a homer, just because the Knicks are part of every story it seems like we the fans are the ones to blame for it…

Duhon did good? the same duhon that averaged 4ppg and 5 apg shooting like 27% from the floor for a 2 month stretch? The same Duhon that got EVERY assist off the same pick and roll with David Lee even when it was not there? Same Duhon that wouldn’t make a shot for 4-5 games in a row?
Robinson “helped” the celtics by having one good game…. celtics kept him on a VERY short leash. The same Nate that played like 1 game the first 2 round… ye crucial to the success.
Crawford finally got the right role, thats what he is a high volume player that is great off the bench…. not so great as your 1 or 2 option though.
Harrington is the dumbest player in the NBA, I stick to that. chuck that just put his head down and tried to do something. How many players do you know that got game costing hanging on the rim technicals last 30 seconds of the game TWICE in the same month?
As for the whole hate the fans thing, thats a bit of a generalization isn’t it? I haven;t seen a single mention of the Knicks being anything more than decent in this forum. As for the fans, yes you will have hungry fans when your team struggled for a decade and every day there is a different rumor in the paper about them getting someone. I have noticed this with other teams of “more rational” fans, once their team is mentioned in any rumor they act the same exact way, make stupid trade threads that make no sense etc. Part of being a fan is being at leats being somewhat of a homer, just because the Knicks are part of every story it seems like we the fans are the ones to blame for it…

And David Lee just plays small, you obviously have not watched many Knick games because it was literally a lay up line for opponents out there. Lee averaged less than HALF A BLOCK a game… hows that for a defensive presence.

And David Lee just plays small, you obviously have not watched many Knick games because it was literally a lay up line for opponents out there. Lee averaged less than HALF A BLOCK a game… hows that for a defensive presence.

Amare IS better than Lee, defensively (trust me I am aware he is a bad defender) and offensively, its a fact.
I’m sorry this is how the world and the media works… the big fish gets all the attention even when they are not the best at something. Sure you will find asshole fans, but to say something like that about an area is retarded. Thats like me saying that every state that doesn’t touch an ocean has dirty toothless rednecks that cant read (they do btw lol). NY is the center of the world, especially the media world, (I don’t care call me a NY dick, facts are facts) and they will still be more discussed if they lose for another decade than the sacramento kings if they win 10 titles the next decade. Don’t blame the fans…

Amare IS better than Lee, defensively (trust me I am aware he is a bad defender) and offensively, its a fact.
I’m sorry this is how the world and the media works… the big fish gets all the attention even when they are not the best at something. Sure you will find asshole fans, but to say something like that about an area is retarded. Thats like me saying that every state that doesn’t touch an ocean has dirty toothless rednecks that cant read (they do btw lol). NY is the center of the world, especially the media world, (I don’t care call me a NY dick, facts are facts) and they will still be more discussed if they lose for another decade than the sacramento kings if they win 10 titles the next decade. Don’t blame the fans…

I don’t know where you are from so this is more of a generalization of people who share your opinions of NY fans. If you can call me am arrogant, elitist NY asshole then it would only be fair for me to call you an uneducated, toothless, truck driving redneck right? I mean stuff like this should be able to work both ways right… it doesn’t though because there is always a double standard on picking on the little guy. If I call you names, I’m being stupid, I’m the cocky jerk that likes to make fun of people, meanwhile you are just defending the average american against cocky new yorkers.

I don’t know where you are from so this is more of a generalization of people who share your opinions of NY fans. If you can call me am arrogant, elitist NY asshole then it would only be fair for me to call you an uneducated, toothless, truck driving redneck right? I mean stuff like this should be able to work both ways right… it doesn’t though because there is always a double standard on picking on the little guy. If I call you names, I’m being stupid, I’m the cocky jerk that likes to make fun of people, meanwhile you are just defending the average american against cocky new yorkers.

Amare won’t play center, not for a large chunk of the game at least…Turiaf will cover 20 minutes or so at C and maybe we will get something out of Curry and Mozgvo (HUGE maybe). Harrington IS AN IDIOT, he has been traded from losing team to losing team and has always left on bad terms. If Melo leaves, JR gets traded and Billups bails you will see how smart Harrington is.

Amare won’t play center, not for a large chunk of the game at least…Turiaf will cover 20 minutes or so at C and maybe we will get something out of Curry and Mozgvo (HUGE maybe). Harrington IS AN IDIOT, he has been traded from losing team to losing team and has always left on bad terms. If Melo leaves, JR gets traded and Billups bails you will see how smart Harrington is.

Amare will at least be noticable in the paint he block the occasional shot and plays much bigger than Lee, the interior defense will still stink but it will be better. Ill take better interior defense and one or two less pointless rebounds over Lee getting every NY rebound teams scoring 110 points because there is noone in the paint.Turiaf and Amare >>>>>>> Lee and Jeffries. You forget to mention how awful jeffries rebounded, or how harrington wouldn’t even jump for rebounds just wait for Lee to do it.

Amare will at least be noticable in the paint he block the occasional shot and plays much bigger than Lee, the interior defense will still stink but it will be better. Ill take better interior defense and one or two less pointless rebounds over Lee getting every NY rebound teams scoring 110 points because there is noone in the paint.Turiaf and Amare >>>>>>> Lee and Jeffries. You forget to mention how awful jeffries rebounded, or how harrington wouldn’t even jump for rebounds just wait for Lee to do it.

wait why can you call me an arrogant New Yorker and I can’t say anything without you getting mad? Suddenly you have a smartass answer about fucking your sister. You made my point for me. And i stated I dont know where you are from, but generally people that have a problem with NY are not from Chicago or LA because I’m sorry to break it to you Bulls fans are just as bad. The rest of the world will agree with me that middle America gives America a bad name and is the reason for the jokes about America worldwide. Europe and much of the world sees america as a bunch of fat, uneducated, truck driving rednecks but respect New York. So it don’t care if Billy Bob in Arkansas agrees with you that NY sucks, truth is NY and NYers are respected worldwide and Billy Bob’s state gives this country a bad name.

wait why can you call me an arrogant New Yorker and I can’t say anything without you getting mad? Suddenly you have a smartass answer about fucking your sister. You made my point for me. And i stated I dont know where you are from, but generally people that have a problem with NY are not from Chicago or LA because I’m sorry to break it to you Bulls fans are just as bad. The rest of the world will agree with me that middle America gives America a bad name and is the reason for the jokes about America worldwide. Europe and much of the world sees america as a bunch of fat, uneducated, truck driving rednecks but respect New York. So it don’t care if Billy Bob in Arkansas agrees with you that NY sucks, truth is NY and NYers are respected worldwide and Billy Bob’s state gives this country a bad name.

I loved Lee, but his leaving wont hurt the Knicks as much as you think. He played out of position because the Knicks were doing damage control of being a mess for 7-8 years and really had noone else to play there. Who is this capable center? Darko? Barron? or Eddy Curry who hasnt been able to play for 2 years? He played there out of necessity and his numbers benefited at the expense of the team, not his fault but it skewed stats.

I loved Lee, but his leaving wont hurt the Knicks as much as you think. He played out of position because the Knicks were doing damage control of being a mess for 7-8 years and really had noone else to play there. Who is this capable center? Darko? Barron? or Eddy Curry who hasnt been able to play for 2 years? He played there out of necessity and his numbers benefited at the expense of the team, not his fault but it skewed stats.

Movies, Gatorade and Nike? You are talking about tomatoes and I am talking about the financial capital of the world. I’m pretty sure NY is a HUGE reason America is where it is today, don’t act like Mississippi contributed more to this country than NY. w/e this is getting ridiculous, have fun planting potatoes tomorrow Billy.

Movies, Gatorade and Nike? You are talking about tomatoes and I am talking about the financial capital of the world. I’m pretty sure NY is a HUGE reason America is where it is today, don’t act like Mississippi contributed more to this country than NY. w/e this is getting ridiculous, have fun planting potatoes tomorrow Billy.

if not for big cities, you heroic middle american would be broke and trading his huge useless supply of potatoes with his neighbor 200 miles away for his useless supply of tomatoes….

if not for big cities, you heroic middle american would be broke and trading his huge useless supply of potatoes with his neighbor 200 miles away for his useless supply of tomatoes….

btw I actually don’t hate these people and respect what they do, just trying to prove a point how easy it is to generalize about someone

btw I actually don’t hate these people and respect what they do, just trying to prove a point how easy it is to generalize about someone

too bad we don’t live on a deserted island so your point is completely invalid.

too bad we don’t live on a deserted island so your point is completely invalid.

i said theres a double standard when it comes to this stuff… clearly there is because you got real defensive…. New Yorkers are assholes but everyone else is hard working honest Americans keeping this country afloat….gotcha

i said theres a double standard when it comes to this stuff… clearly there is because you got real defensive…. New Yorkers are assholes but everyone else is hard working honest Americans keeping this country afloat….gotcha