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  • #19984
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    ESPN

    Former high school star Jeremy Tyler has signed with the Tokyo Apache of Japan’s professional basketball league.

    The team announced the signing Thursday on its official website. The 19-year-old Tyler will play for former NBA coach Bob Hill, who was hired by the team last month.

    “We are extremely excited for Jeremy to join our team in Tokyo,” the team said in a statement. “His athleticism and size will be a major presence in our frontcourt this season.”

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    http://www.bj-league.com/html/en/index.html
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    http://www.tokyoapache.com/en/

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  • #364845
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    McDunkin

    Awful choice as far as competition goes..worse than going to China.

    him having at least one 50 point game is a given

    The NBADL would have been his best choice at this point but then again, im no agent

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  • #364852
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    JoeWolf1

    35,000 dollars a year is a decent entry level salary for a teacher or a social worker, but until the D-League can attract a higher fan base so the teams can generate more money for their players, they will continue to lose out to young players who do not go to college opting to play overseas for more money. I too think the D-League is a good thing and would benefit a lot of young players, I can’t blame someone for taking a couple hundred thousand and a year living in a foreign country over making 35,000 a year in Tusla Oklahoma.

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  • #364854
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    JNixon
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    Something tells me that he should’ve just took the normal route and went to school….

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  • #364856
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    After two pro years, he will have made more than $200K. If he goes to school, he officially makes nothing and in reality gets some under the table money that does not get close to that number. How is that a bad decision? He was going to be an immature boob in the US too, now he is a rich immature boob.

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  • #364860
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    JNixon
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    Great decision from a money perspective obviously, but I mean from a basketball way of thinking. It’s cool that you get money, but I don’t think he’s going to amount to much as a player for some reason. I think college coaching would’ve been best for him honestly. But I guess he’s not a college kind of guy

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  • #364866
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    College coaching is not as good as pro coaching, so don’t make the argument a year with Rick Pitino or John Calipari would have made him a better player. He would have been in the same exact spot. He would be a talent who wasn’t mature enough to be a pro.

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  • #364870
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    JNixon
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    You never know…I personally don’t that with Pitino or Calipari, he would’ve been the circus that he was with that guy in Israel. At least not over the course of 4 years as opposed to one. Coaching is one thing, but I think they would’ve provided discipline as well. The coach in Israel wasn’t a big disciplinarian because, as you said, he was a pro coach. Pro coaches would rather coach than have to also be a father figure to an arrogant 17 year old

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  • #364871
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    mikeyvthedon
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    The most hilariously named league I have heard of, thats for sure. Wow, Bob Hill coaching there now, a couple years ago the Apache were Joe “Jellybean” Bryant’s team. Well, I think it will be an opportunity to Jeremy Tyler to play more, if that is what he is looking for, but like many of you I am not to sure about it competition wise. Do not get me wrong, their are some very solid players in Japan, but no real college superstars and I think their are even better leagues in Japan itself. My friend Ray Schafer plays over there and has done quite well, and I know he was a better player than he got to show in college, but I think this league has few people vying for spots in the NBA. I am all for him taking a different route and do not see anything wrong with him not wanting to face the NCAA and its ridiculous hypocrisy, but you have to question this move. Unless he comes into the league and totally dominates, than I think his draft stock will take a hit. If he went the college route, killed his last year of HS (against competition that he said was not making him any better) and than even put up decent numbers in the Big East at Louisville (the school he said he was going to), than he more than likely would be considered a first round pick, if not lottery. Unless he really impresses in Japan, it will be hard for him to crack round 1. Seems like he has a lot to work on, and I personally love Japan and think it is kind of cool he is going there. All the best and hopefully this goes a lot better for him than his time in Israel. I also hope he gets some kind of support system, which I guess he did not get in Israel, I think that is very important, especially with the incredible transition to an entire different culture and country.

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  • #364892
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    “.I personally don’t that with Pitino or Calipari, he would’ve been the circus that he was with that guy in Israel. At least not over the course of 4 years as opposed to one. Coaching is one thing, but I think they would’ve provided discipline as well.”

    Do you know who Rick Pitino and John Calipari are? Rick Pitino has a decade long list of knuckleheads whose immaturity and bad decisions have only been matched by his own. Did anyone else notice Pitino got nothing out of Derrick Caracter, but he leaves and ends up getting drafted and dropping fifty pounds? What about Terrence Jennings, Earl Clark, and all the others going all the way back to Brandon Bender? And Calipari? Really! Seriously! The great discipline of DeMarcus Cousins and Darnell Dodson. Joey Dorsey, knucklehead. Chris Douglas-Roberts, by all accounts from NJ… knucklehead. Shawne Williams, enough said. Darius Washington?

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  • #364899
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    Pureshooter
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    Seems strange at first glance, but the more you think about it the smarter it seems. Relatively short plane flight back home to San Diego, experienced American coach, good salary, and a big exciting city. The kid should have a blast. He’ll almost certainly be in the NBA in a year anyway, so I don’t think where he goes right now really matters. Jennings didn’t get much playing time in Europe and look at him now.

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    JNixon
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    Some of those players were troublemakers, Tyler wouldn’t have been a bad seed like that. His gotten in trouble for being lazy and thinking he was above it all, not for being a legal problem.

    And since when has CDR, Darius Washignton, Joey Dorsey,Terrence Williams, or Earl Clark been troublemakers or players you seen or heard a lack of success get stated?? None of those guys are “knuckleheads” LOL.

    Were they players that didn’t/haven’t reached their potential? Yes. But out of that whole list, only Dodson and Shawne Williams are truly troublemakers. I wouldn’t even say Cousins is a troublemaker, since he has no legal troubles. Caracter just was out of shape with Pitino, and knew he had to get it together or he’d be out of a basketball career. I could see Tyler having that same problem that Caracter did, so maybe I could see why he would want to STEAL money instead of sucking and b*tching without getting paid.

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    When the Nets sent CDR to Milwaukee, the reports out of New Jersey was that he was a guy with a bad attitude and they just wanted him out of the locker room. Darius Washington has had his high opinion of himself keep him from sticking in the league. Joey Dorsey’s bad work ethic got him shipped out of Houston. Earl Clark was a talent whose spaciness and lax attitude has kept him from being as good as he should be, and from getting on the floor in Phoenix. I said nothing about Terrence Williams. I also did not accuse Tyler of being a criminal or compare his immaturity to criminal acts. Shawne Williams was a problem for his team before he got arrested.

    Tyler having problems understanding the work ethic and need to practice would have arisen had he taken a more traditional approach and simply gone to Louisville as he had planned or to Calipari as all one-and-done players now want. There is no magical formula to get a player to grow up before he is ready to that NCAA coaches have that Bob Hill or Avi Ashkenazi do not.

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