David Kahn Not As Bad As People Think?

i believe you can not accurately judge a gm for at least 5 years. Thats about how long it should take to turn a bad team around. And some of his moves are not that bad. Ridnour a t 4 mill per is solid and beasley for nothing was good. Rubio for 2 guys who probably wouldnt even be on the roster right now is looking okay in hindsite as well. Im pulling for the wolves becasue they have love and rambis, but its looking shaky right now. He keeps bringing in guys who play the same position as each other.

I disagree. I think David Khan is THE worst GM in the NBA.

First off, with the 5th and 6th pick- Minnesota should have taken Stephen Curry and DeMar DeRozan. That would have set the backcourt for a decade AND fit perfectly in the Triangle.

He signed some terrible free agents in Rindour and Sessions. The Wolves should have looked to just keep the space and lock up Kevin Love and other good pieces.

He also should have taken DeMarcus Cousins. Low post Centers come around once every 3-6 years like Cousins. I think if you envision dealing Jefferson, you should have taken Cousins.

Curry-DeRozan-Brewer-Love-Cousins would have been a monster 5.

Enough said.

bullsbaby agree 100% with you man like at the time those picks were fairly obvious and he went in other directions….. what bout mayo for love??? bad deal ther

5 years thats way too much time.
Teams can’t afford to give bad Gm’s that much time 2-3 years is plenty.
Look at what Isiah did, the Cavs GM Ferry was bad with most of his moves but he had Lebron to make up for them.

I said this before, David Kahn is either a moron or a genius!

I like the Milicic signing. This is the first time in his 7 year career where Milicic feels comfortable and that he belongs on a team. He is a legitimate seven footer who is strong, can run the court, jump, and block shots. I think watching his progress, or lack thereof, this season will be very interesting.

No more excuses for Milicic, this is his year to prove he belongs in the NBA or go back to Serbia.

I mean that. Worst GM job ever. Wonder why he couldn’t get a better job than FIU? You think he went there for the weather?

That article makes some sense. Part of what Kahn has had to do is get our Mchale’s guys, now he has some good pieces and cap space. He is just Terrible with the media and not a people person. Last year, he came off to me as kind of trying to act like a hot shot wheeler dealer and looked kind of stupid, but I truly think getting Beasley is one of the best moves I’ve ever seen. Just for a second rounder, a 21 year old second overall pick who while maybe slightly dissapointing isn’t a bust at all.

nyk2010, you think 5 years is way too long to evaluate how a gm is doing? I think it takes 2-3 years to get things going in the right direction and another 2-3 years to see if works and let the gm make final touches. If gm’s were getting fired after 2-3 years, not many would stick around. Isiah thomas had about 5 years, and he was an exception becasue his moves were some of the worst people had ever seen plus he had an unlimited amount of money to spend which most gms dont have.

Ferry had LeBron chirping in his ear the whole time letting him know who he wanted on the team. It’s Ferry’s fault that he listened to LeBron, instead of intelligently putting together a roster built for long term.

He makes a brontosaurus look quick.
And his motor is permanently on low.
And he’s not even an average passer IMO.

Either I’m an idiot or Kahn is.

The Kahn and Webber video was the first time I’ve seen Kahn talk….

Judging by the moves he’s made and the video…. He is definitely as bad as people think if not worse…

He’s by far the worst GM in the league right now. I liked the Mike Beasley trade though.

Kahn is a terrible GM and 5 years is a long time. Any one of you guys could turn a team around in 5 years. 3 years is a pretty good measurement and 4 at the most. Average Gm’s should be able to do that. Great ones can turn a team around in 2 years tops and if they have cap space one year and a half. Okc went for bad to 50 win young talent team in 3 years. Sam Presti is the man. He may have been a victim of being too cautious because had he added a defensive big man sooner they could have had a 55 to 60 win team but with that cap space and waiting another year, it will probably work out better and also saves you from the risk of it not working and having no cap space.

Bullsbaby I agree with your posts and Kahn had too many draft picks and cap space not to have a winner by now.

He is terrible.

average gm’s can do it 3 years and great ones in 2 years? Then there must not be very many average or good gms in the league. If a gm gets it done in short order, then great but im not gonna throw geoff petrie of the kings out of the front office since its been over 3 years since they were good. The lakers took 4 years before they got it turned around, does that mean mitch kupchak sucks? obviously not since they are winning now.

and how can you say kahn has had too many draft picks to not be winning by now. Didnt he just take over a terrible team about 2 years ago? It takes time for any gm unless they get lucky or come to a team thats in a good spot.

Dude had like 5 first round picks and a whole bunch of 2nd round picks and contracts that could be easily moved and this off season he had mad cap space.

I thought this was the 3rd year for Sacramento because they had a good season with Ron Artest and that was like 3 years ago and their team now is legit but young.

Lakers only missed the playoffs once.

I am talking about taking a team with no expectation and bring them back to speed.

NJ will be decent this year and the following year which should be their 3rd they should be a solid team but there are better teams so now it will be about getting chemistry and seeing if you can add or replace a guy to get you more production.

the kings missed the playoffs the last season ron was there. and they are not gonna be making the playoffs this season. Look at the heat, they didnt win a single playoff series since 2006, but now 5 years later it looks they will be back, is pat riley a bad gm becasue it took him 5 years?

Gms sometimes have to take a step backwards to go forward such as letting a key player go becasue he was overpriced. Or teams have to make bad trades in order to clear cap space. Or maybe the gm makes a totally sound pick that every single person would have made and agreed with at the time, but it doesnt work out. Teams can take 5 years and not be very good and im not gonna automatically say the gm sucks.

And kahn has been there for 2 years. He took over a team that was in a horrible position. How can you honestly say becasue he had some picks that they should be all turned around by now? Ask anybody involved in the nba and unless the gm is one of the all time worst gm’s ever and makes nothing but bad decision after bad decision, you cant judge them accurately in a few years.

its called trade your entire team fro draft picks and look at the unsigned talent its out there at the small colleges but no ones looking

either look at ronnie price

but at some point he must seal the deal and figure out a way to get the Wolves a superstar to build around. Love and Beasley are very good players, but I don’t think they’re the type of guys that can carry a franchise. He’s drafted guys who have limited potential with the exception of Rubio, who may or may not be willing to play in Minnesota for an extended period of time. He keeps making moves that only make sense if can make an amazing move later. He’s either got to make a lopsided trade aided by the salary cap room he’s created, get lucky in the lottery, draft better, or somehow get a star to come here via free agency.

“First off, with the 5th and 6th pick- Minnesota should have taken Stephen Curry and DeMar DeRozan. That would have set the backcourt for a decade AND fit perfectly in the Triangle.”

first there was a lot of reports that Stephen Curry have tanked in workouts b/c he wanted to join the knicks ,and Rubio was and may be still considered a better player than Curry,I would prefer we postpone our judge on the 5th pick until Rubio plays in the NBA b4 saying he should take another player
and Derozen hasn’t proven anything too ,at least not much more than Flynn

“He signed some terrible free agents in Rindour and Sessions. The Wolves should have looked to just keep the space and lock up Kevin Love and other good pieces.”
Sessions was a bargain at that price,I don’t think it was a terrible signing at all,iF it was a terrible signing he wouldn’t have had offers for him right now
also Ridnour at that price ain’t bad

and how they didn’t lock up Love?you do realize they can’t sign him extension b4 the next summer

“He also should have taken DeMarcus Cousins. Low post Centers come around once every 3-6 years like Cousins. I think if you envision dealing Jefferson, you should have taken Cousins.”
I am a big Cousins fan ,that said we should wait b4 we call it the wrong pick,If I remember correctly neither Johnson nor Cousins have played in the NBA yet
and Pekovic is a good low post C,was on of the best Centers overseas

I said it before and I still have the same opinion,this summer I don’t get what he is doing
but Rubio and Beasley had great ceiling ,If they reached their potential and Johnson turned into a good starter then this team can be really good
this trio of Rubio-Beasley-Johnson specially the first 2 could make him looks like a great GM when its all said and done

Actually Pat Riley has made terrible move up until now. Drafting Beasley who the whole world knew was not a good fit was bad. If not for Wade, they would not have won. That team around Wade was not really good and Shaq was not the same Shaq when they won it.

I give Wade credit for the big 3 not Riley

Miami only missed the playoff once or maybe twice. Minny has yet to get close to the playoffs and Miami did not have the picks that Minny has had cept for Beasley and they screwed that up.

Unless Kahn makes a big move, I don’t see this team being good or playoff worth for another 3 years and he has already had 2 years and they are so poorly put together that it would be sheer luck if they win a playoff game. At least when Mchale( who also was a terrible GM but good big man coach) was there they had KG and some solid player at one point in Googs, Marbury before the trippin, Sprewell, Cassell.

Beasley will be good but knowing Kahn he will not utilize him correctly and I already see Beasley playing well enough to leave when his contract is up. He is not going to stay.